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Turbo_J wrote...

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Well I'm out for the night.

Don't let the collector swarms bite.

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Off topic: So "Sheploo" is default maleshep? If so, why the name?

Mark Vanderloo. Google it.

The "real" commander Shepard lol. Too bad they didn't have a real face to model Femshep's face off of. Not that is really matters to me though, as I have a custom one anyway.
Edit: Voiced by a Mark and modeled after a Mark?


Yeah, mine is custom as well. All 7 of them. My canon is a Redhead with freckles though. Much better than the ME3 default. I'm not sure WTH went wrong there.



Yeah, I think they should've at least just gone with the old default if they weren't going to use a model. They could've updated it a bit to make it more unique if that's what they were going for, but whatever. I use cutoms too.

And Banshee, I think I read somewhere that Vanderloo is married (or a girlfriend?) to a woman with the last name Vandermeer. I could be wrong (or crazy) though :P

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Well I'm out for the night.

Don't let the collector swarms bite.

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Off topic: So "Sheploo" is default maleshep? If so, why the name?

Mark Vanderloo. Google it.

The "real" commander Shepard lol. Too bad they didn't have a real face to model Femshep's face off of. Not that is really matters to me though, as I have a custom one anyway.
Edit: Voiced by a Mark and modeled after a Mark?


Yeah, mine is custom as well. All 7 of them. My canon is a Redhead with freckles though. Much better than the ME3 default. I'm not sure WTH went wrong there.



They should patch in a new default FemShep that actually looks like the concept art, and also give the code for making it in ME1, so I'd be able to actually use it without giving Shep plastic surgery in ME3 Posted Image At least the code


I wouldnt mind FemShep looking like Carolina. (Redhead on the right, for those who dont religiously watch RvB)

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Hell, I'd take one that looked like South, or even CT

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Well I'm out for the night.

Don't let the collector swarms bite.

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Off topic: So "Sheploo" is default maleshep? If so, why the name?

Mark Vanderloo. Google it.

The "real" commander Shepard lol. Too bad they didn't have a real face to model Femshep's face off of. Not that is really matters to me though, as I have a custom one anyway.
Edit: Voiced by a Mark and modeled after a Mark?


Yeah, mine is custom as well. All 7 of them. My canon is a Redhead with freckles though. Much better than the ME3 default. I'm not sure WTH went wrong there.



They should patch in a new default FemShep that actually looks like the concept art, and also give the code for making it in ME1, so I'd be able to actually use it without giving Shep plastic surgery in ME3 Posted Image At least the code

Or maybe her hair for other femsheps? You know, without having to mod it.

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I liked that squirrel face :S Though the concept one was much better I'd agree.


I agree, I don't think people in general dislike default FemShep so much as she looked better in the concept art, and we're a little disappointed.

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Well, I think Bioware have already gone out of their way to disprove IT, so saying that Shep was on the Citadel would not really change that, just make it more plausible for the literal version to be true. They could equally say Shep was in London and chalk his survival up to space magic. I still want to know what the f*ck they were thinking.


I'm not sure where all this "IT is dead" is coming from, because not only did EC give us more evidence, more importantly, it didn't remove any. Also, BW never said anything of the sort, they're staying neutral for now.


You're right, I misspoke, I meant to say that Bioware have gone out of their way to not prove IT.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Destructorlio wrote...

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Is anyone in this thread going to SDCC- we need an agent to ask Bioware about IT:

1) Was it ever intended by the developers, even as an interpretation?
2) What was with all of the clues in the game that we uncovered in this forum, were they there intentionally? Particularly the infrasound and the gun switch and the treeflections
3) Was any thought given to furthering this interpretation in the EC?
4) Was the Shepard lives ending supposed to be in London?
5) Will there be an ME4?


I doubt you will get any definitive answers on this, except for maybe 4. What would that mean for IT if BW said it was on the Citadel?


Well, I think Bioware have already gone out of their way to disprove IT, so saying that Shep was on the Citadel would not really change that, just make it more plausible for the literal version to be true. They could equally say Shep was in London and chalk his survival up to space magic. I still want to know what the f*ck they were thinking.


I'm not sure where all this "IT is dead" is coming from, because not only did EC give us more evidence, more importantly, it didn't remove any. Also, BW never said anything of the sort, they're staying neutral for now.


I've been off the chart for a few weeks, mostly replaying all my Sheps with the EC, so what new evidences have we found?

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byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Well I'm out for the night.

Don't let the collector swarms bite.

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Off topic: So "Sheploo" is default maleshep? If so, why the name?

Mark Vanderloo. Google it.

The "real" commander Shepard lol. Too bad they didn't have a real face to model Femshep's face off of. Not that is really matters to me though, as I have a custom one anyway.
Edit: Voiced by a Mark and modeled after a Mark?


Yeah, mine is custom as well. All 7 of them. My canon is a Redhead with freckles though. Much better than the ME3 default. I'm not sure WTH went wrong there.



They should patch in a new default FemShep that actually looks like the concept art, and also give the code for making it in ME1, so I'd be able to actually use it without giving Shep plastic surgery in ME3 Posted Image At least the code


I wouldnt mind FemShep looking like Carolina. (Redhead on the right, for those who dont religiously watch RvB)

Posted Image

Hell, I'd take one that looked like South, or even CT


With the armour too! Posted Image

Or a York, North, or Wash (yes, I know we don't see Wash's face) MaleShep

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 06 juillet 2012 - 05:53 .


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And Banshee, I think I read somewhere that Vanderloo is married (or a girlfriend?) to a woman with the last name Vandermeer. I could be wrong (or crazy) though :P

lol

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Turbo_J wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

They should patch in a new default FemShep that actually looks like the concept art, and also give the code for making it in ME1, so I'd be able to actually use it without giving Shep plastic surgery in ME3 Posted Image At least the code


Can you enter codes in ME1? I have the PC version and I don't think it gives you that option. Unless it's a NG+ thing and I've missed seeing it for 5 years.

I believe there are codes in all 3. And they all translate to the same face in each game.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Well I'm out for the night.

Don't let the collector swarms bite.

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Off topic: So "Sheploo" is default maleshep? If so, why the name?

Mark Vanderloo. Google it.

The "real" commander Shepard lol. Too bad they didn't have a real face to model Femshep's face off of. Not that is really matters to me though, as I have a custom one anyway.
Edit: Voiced by a Mark and modeled after a Mark?


Yeah, mine is custom as well. All 7 of them. My canon is a Redhead with freckles though. Much better than the ME3 default. I'm not sure WTH went wrong there.



They should patch in a new default FemShep that actually looks like the concept art, and also give the code for making it in ME1, so I'd be able to actually use it without giving Shep plastic surgery in ME3 Posted Image At least the code


I wouldnt mind FemShep looking like Carolina. (Redhead on the right, for those who dont religiously watch RvB)

Posted Image

Hell, I'd take one that looked like South, or even CT


With the armour too! Posted Image

Or a York, North, or Wash (yes, I know we don't see Wash's face) MaleShep

+1

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Destructorlio wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Destructorlio wrote...

Well, I think Bioware have already gone out of their way to disprove IT, so saying that Shep was on the Citadel would not really change that, just make it more plausible for the literal version to be true. They could equally say Shep was in London and chalk his survival up to space magic. I still want to know what the f*ck they were thinking.


I'm not sure where all this "IT is dead" is coming from, because not only did EC give us more evidence, more importantly, it didn't remove any. Also, BW never said anything of the sort, they're staying neutral for now.


You're right, I misspoke, I meant to say that Bioware have gone out of their way to not prove IT.


Lol, sorry for jumping on the post like that Posted Image

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I liked that squirrel face :S Though the concept one was much better I'd agree.


I agree, I don't think people in general dislike default FemShep so much as she looked better in the concept art, and we're a little disappointed.

Instead you could use ME1/ME2 femshep and see what she looks like in ME3. Because I have no idea.

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Posted Image
Citadel is facing Earth here instead of away from itPosted Image and NA is seen instead of Europe.

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Citadel is facing Earth here instead of away from itPosted Image and NA is seen instead of Europe.


And seems to be farther away. Maybe the Citadel "drives" like a squid/Reapers, arms forward.

I wanna drive a 50km long space station Posted Image

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 06 juillet 2012 - 05:59 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

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I liked that squirrel face :S Though the concept one was much better I'd agree.


I agree, I don't think people in general dislike default FemShep so much as she looked better in the concept art, and we're a little disappointed.

Instead you could use ME1/ME2 femshep and see what she looks like in ME3. Because I have no idea.

It's the first pre-set.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

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Citadel is facing Earth here instead of away from itPosted Image and NA is seen instead of Europe.


And seems to be farther away. Maybe the Citadel "drives" like a squid/Reapers, arms forward.

I wanna drive a 50km space station Posted Image


Seems like an aweful lot of work :P

Anyway, if that's how it...drives, why would it be facing Earth but farther away?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

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I liked that squirrel face :S Though the concept one was much better I'd agree.


I agree, I don't think people in general dislike default FemShep so much as she looked better in the concept art, and we're a little disappointed.

Instead you could use ME1/ME2 femshep and see what she looks like in ME3. Because I have no idea.


I believe the ME1/2 default is still in the game, it is the first preset in the custom faces option. With a little tweaking you can make her look like she did in ME1/2. I've seen some really close approximations over on those modding threads.

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At least that image shows the Reapers attacking the Citadel which we don't actually get to see in-game.

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Hmm, if I put "bull****" in my sig, would the mods get mad? Not just that word BTW

EDIT: Auto-censor may have answered my question for me Posted Image

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BleedingUranium wrote...

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Citadel is facing Earth here instead of away from itPosted Image and NA is seen instead of Europe.


And seems to be farther away. Maybe the Citadel "drives" like a squid/Reapers, arms forward.


Lol. Maybe it means the beam originally went to the presidium tower were you faught Saren. I mean they bothered to have it rendered when Shep goes there in the beginning. Could've had Shep talk to them on QEC. Plus there's the whole "Guardian's Garden" thing. You know, the presidium tower with all its trees. Trees.
Or maybe the citadel originally omnomnomed the crucible and it attached like this.
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Hmm, if I put "bull****" in my sig, would the mods get mad? Not just that word BTW


If you're quoting Anderson, maybe not. I wouldn't advise it, though.

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I wouldnt mind FemShep looking like Carolina. (Redhead on the right, for those who dont religiously watch RvB)

*snip*

Hell, I'd take one that looked like South, or even CT


With the armour too! Posted Image

Or a York, North, or Wash (yes, I know we don't see Wash's face) MaleShep


Having RvB characters in ME would be great. Church could tell the godchild why he wont pick any of his choices, even when things seem at their most dire:

Church: I learned a very valuable lesson in my travels, Tucker. No matter how bad things might seem-

Caboose: They could be worse.

Church: Nope, no matter how bad they seem, they can't be any better, and they can't be any worse, because that's the way things ****ing are, and you better get used to it Nancy. Quit your ****ing.


Modifié par byne, 06 juillet 2012 - 06:03 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

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Citadel is facing Earth here instead of away from itPosted Image and NA is seen instead of Europe.


And seems to be farther away. Maybe the Citadel "drives" like a squid/Reapers, arms forward.


Lol. Maybe it means the beam originally went to the presidium tower were you faught Saren. I mean they bothered to have it rendered when Shep goes there in the beginning. Could've had Shep talk to them on QEC. Plus there's the whole "Guardian's Garden" thing. You know, the presidium tower with all its trees. Trees.
Or maybe the citadel originally omnomnomed the crucible and it attached like this.
Posted Image


Because that wouldn't be suggestive at all. Posted Image

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DrTsoni wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

I liked that squirrel face :S Though the concept one was much better I'd agree.


I agree, I don't think people in general dislike default FemShep so much as she looked better in the concept art, and we're a little disappointed.

Instead you could use ME1/ME2 femshep and see what she looks like in ME3. Because I have no idea.

It's the first pre-set.

No it isn't. The preset is light-brown haired with blue eyes. The default ME1 Femshep  was still a redhead with green eyes.
Edit: Hey surprise guess who gets the top of the page? Again?

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DrTsoni wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Hmm, if I put "bull****" in my sig, would the mods get mad? Not just that word BTW


If you're quoting Anderson, maybe not. I wouldn't advise it, though.


I love how you know exactly what line I was thinking of Posted Image