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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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D.Sharrah wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Does anyone know if this slide shows up regardless of your choice in Kasumi's loyalty mission?


In Synthesis? Yes, it always shows up. I used the same file to see all the endings and I had destroyed it, got that slide for Control/Destroy and this for Synthesis.


That's just bad...I was thinking that if you saved the greybox it made a little sense...but if it's there no matter what...just bad.  Unless they are implying that Kasumi did not listen to Shep in ME 2 about the greybox...


I believe my Shepard destroyed it herself so Kasumi couldn't have lied. I doubt it's salvagable and even if it were, why wouldn't you get that for Control if it's merely based on that decision? Megumi's probably right....at least, I think it was Megumi that said they transcend mortality.

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new clue!

Slids for epilogue named Flashforward not Fastforward

Flashforward is a sci-fi novel and TV show..well was

the entire human race loses consciousness for about two minutes. During that time, nearly everyone sees themselves roughly twenty-one years and six months in the future. Each individual experiences their own future through the senses of their future self.

Modifié par Priss Blackburne, 07 juillet 2012 - 02:29 .


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Arian Dynas wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

@Arian - Awww....10 bucks!! Why not for freeeeee?!?!?! ;)


Because EA needs to make SOME money.


Pfffffttttt.....for all some people care, they would rather let BioWare contiinue to give DLC for free and "fumble in darkness" until they get it right. In my opinion, I think they will not give anymore after ending DLC because:

1- They did it once already.
2- If they did it would negate all the work they did for EC.
3- (I love this one.) Speculation=hype=money.
4- Hints in new DLC are a better motivation for people to buy all their DLC in the future than just giving up and let out the truth.
5- If they revealed the truth, then ME3 would start to fade away afterwards. This would make any DLC a luxury instead of a need, because you know what is going to happen. Also the longer ME3 is in the trays and getting sold, that means the more money they make.

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DrTsoni wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Posted Image
As EDI said, they transcend mortality... seems Keiji lives on through the memories and with the enhancement comes "back" to live.


Ahhhhhh!!! Starchild is back!! All grown up!! :o

Notice how the captions are labled as falsh forward? So that means that they are canon?  


Does anyone know if this slide shows up regardless of your choice in Kasumi's loyalty mission?


In Synthesis? Yes, it always shows up. I used the same file to see all the endings and I had destroyed it, got that slide for Control/Destroy and this for Synthesis.

Answer my question and I let you go.
What does it mean?
A) A bug.
B) Indoctrination.
C) Lazy developer.
D) An oversight.

#40630
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D.Sharrah wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Does anyone know if this slide shows up regardless of your choice in Kasumi's loyalty mission?


In Synthesis? Yes, it always shows up. I used the same file to see all the endings and I had destroyed it, got that slide for Control/Destroy and this for Synthesis.


That's just bad...I was thinking that if you saved the greybox it made a little sense...but if it's there no matter what...just bad.  Unless they are implying that Kasumi did not listen to Shep in ME 2 about the greybox...

You can choose to delete the files on it yourself.

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Bill Casey wrote...

Overpopulation and Poverty "eliminated"


Compare this:

http://www.youtube.c...PIuvLnZw#t=626s

to



I find the turns of phrases very similar...

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Bill Casey wrote...

Overpopulation and Poverty "eliminated"

How does it eliminate overpopulation?

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TJBartlemus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

@Arian - Awww....10 bucks!! Why not for freeeeee?!?!?! ;)


Because EA needs to make SOME money.


Pfffffttttt.....for all some people care, they would rather let BioWare contiinue to give DLC for free and "fumble in darkness" until they get it right. In my opinion, I think they will not give anymore after ending DLC because:

1- They did it once already.
2- If they did it would negate all the work they did for EC.
3- (I love this one.) Speculation=hype=money.
4- Hints in new DLC are a better motivation for people to buy all their DLC in the future than just giving up and let out the truth.
5- If they revealed the truth, then ME3 would start to fade away afterwards. This would make any DLC a luxury instead of a need, because you know what is going to happen. Also the longer ME3 is in the trays and getting sold, that means the more money they make.


Hence, why this DLC is proposed as "The Arrival" to ME3. A preperation to ME4.

Besides, this is not "Ending DLC" it's "Epilogue DLC"

There's a difference.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 07 juillet 2012 - 02:31 .


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D.Sharrah

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Does anyone know if this slide shows up regardless of your choice in Kasumi's loyalty mission?


In Synthesis? Yes, it always shows up. I used the same file to see all the endings and I had destroyed it, got that slide for Control/Destroy and this for Synthesis.


That's just bad...I was thinking that if you saved the greybox it made a little sense...but if it's there no matter what...just bad.  Unless they are implying that Kasumi did not listen to Shep in ME 2 about the greybox...

You can choose to delete the files on it yourself.


I always let her keep it...my Shep is a softie...as for your question, I would lean towards Indoctrination based on the options that you gave - simply b/c it is an inconsistency and IT is the best way that you can explain it...

Modifié par D.Sharrah, 07 juillet 2012 - 02:32 .


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So no one? flashforward? Rats thought I found something good <_<

#40636
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D.Sharrah wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Does anyone know if this slide shows up regardless of your choice in Kasumi's loyalty mission?


In Synthesis? Yes, it always shows up. I used the same file to see all the endings and I had destroyed it, got that slide for Control/Destroy and this for Synthesis.


That's just bad...I was thinking that if you saved the greybox it made a little sense...but if it's there no matter what...just bad.  Unless they are implying that Kasumi did not listen to Shep in ME 2 about the greybox...

You can choose to delete the files on it yourself.


I always let her keep it...my Shep is a softie...as for your question, I would lean towards Indoctrination based on the options that you gave - simply b/c it is an inconsistency and IT is the best way that you can explain it...

Good, the other answers weren't the one I was looking for and I would have to shove you out of a window of a skyscraper :P

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zigamortis wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Overpopulation and Poverty "eliminated"

How does it eliminate overpopulation?


NEVER MIND. You saw nothing.... B)

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 07 juillet 2012 - 02:35 .


#40638
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Priss Blackburne wrote...

So no one? flashforward? Rats thought I found something good <_<


Eh...thought it was clear that we were seeing the future - In my canon (and first choise for the EC) Destroy ending, I see a slide of a rebuilt London and then Shep waking up in London rubble...if it wasn't the slide wasn't the future - there is no way that you could suspend your disbelief to think that what you saw was reality...

#40639
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Priss Blackburne wrote...

So no one? flashforward? Rats thought I found something good <_<

Could just be a vision of what could come given by something in your head.

#40640
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Reviving about on the infrasound.

Was there any new infrasound detected in the Extended Cut scenes, let-alone, prior and post- EC with the Starchild?

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Good, the other answers weren't the one I was looking for and I would have to shove you out of a window of a skyscraper :P


I will have to remember to watch myself when I am near windows an you are around...and alwyas carry my portable pocket jet pack! Posted Image

#40642
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D.Sharrah wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Good, the other answers weren't the one I was looking for and I would have to shove you out of a window of a skyscraper :P


I will have to remember to watch myself when I am near windows an you are around...and alwyas carry my portable pocket jet pack! Posted Image

Or you could just not look like a Merc or give the right answer :P

#40643
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A flashforward (also spelled flash-forward; also called a prolepsis) is an interjected scene that takes the narrative forward in time from the current point of the story in literature, film, television and other media.[1] Flashforwards are often used to represent events expected, projected, or imagined to occur in the future. They may also reveal significant parts of the story that have not yet occurred, but soon will in greater detail. In the opposite direction, a flashback (or analepsis) reveals events that have occurred in the past.


okay guess that kinda fits the epilogue screens of multiple endings. hmmm probably nothing.

#40644
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So have we found out why the DLC is so large?

#40645
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http://social.biowar...2/1626#13007068

Is it possible that the similarites that I mention in the post linked above, is another example of Shep using his memories to help shape what is occuring in the indoctrination attempt?

#40646
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OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

So have we found out why the DLC is so large?

What's there to find out?
> 50% movies, the rest are levels that were touched.

#40647
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MegumiAzusa wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Good, the other answers weren't the one I was looking for and I would have to shove you out of a window of a skyscraper :P


I will have to remember to watch myself when I am near windows an you are around...and alwyas carry my portable pocket jet pack! Posted Image

Or you could just not look like a Merc or give the right answer :P


I'm just saying...never hurts to be prepared.

#40648
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Arian Dynas wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

@Arian - Awww....10 bucks!! Why not for freeeeee?!?!?! ;)


Because EA needs to make SOME money.


Pfffffttttt.....for all some people care, they would rather let BioWare contiinue to give DLC for free and "fumble in darkness" until they get it right. In my opinion, I think they will not give anymore after ending DLC because:

1- They did it once already.
2- If they did it would negate all the work they did for EC.
3- (I love this one.) Speculation=hype=money.
4- Hints in new DLC are a better motivation for people to buy all their DLC in the future than just giving up and let out the truth.
5- If they revealed the truth, then ME3 would start to fade away afterwards. This would make any DLC a luxury instead of a need, because you know what is going to happen. Also the longer ME3 is in the trays and getting sold, that means the more money they make.


Hence, why this DLC is proposed as "The Arrival" to ME3. A preperation to ME4.

Besides, this is not "Ending DLC" it's "Epilogue DLC"

There's a difference.


Both count as "after ending" DLC. Anything after ME3's ending as it is would reveal the truth. If they were going to reveal the truth why not put it in ME4? (That's what they'll do. No doubt.) They could reveal the truth before ME4 Arian, (unlikely) they could do that type of script you have for DLC. Or make it an "Arcade game" on Live. (And whatever the equivalent on PSN and Origin.) I think for your script for the DLC it would be cooler to start off as a new character and then you find Shepard. Then you have the choice of continuing as your guy, or Shepard. (or it could end when you find Shepard and then cinematic scenes.)

#40649
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btw in the synthesis video where EDI talks about overpopulation, did the creator sabotage the cure for the genophage? I could just be wrong but I don't remember it for me, but that could just because it didn't seem significant.

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D.Sharrah wrote...

http://social.biowar...2/1626#13007068

Is it possible that the similarites that I mention in the post linked above, is another example of Shep using his memories to help shape what is occuring in the indoctrination attempt?


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