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[Nightingale]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...


As EDI said, they transcend mortality... seems Keiji lives on through the memories and with the enhancement comes "back" to live.

Ahhhhhh!!! Starchild is back!! All grown up!! 

Notice how the captions are labled as falsh forward? So that means that they are canon?  

Does anyone know if this slide shows up regardless of your choice in Kasumi's loyalty mission?

In Synthesis? Yes, it always shows up. I used the same file to see all the endings and I had destroyed it, got that slide for Control/Destroy and this for Synthesis.

Answer my question and I let you go.
What does it mean?
A) A bug.
Indoctrination.
C) Lazy developer.
D) An oversight.

If it was indoctrination, why wouldn't it show up like this in Control though? I don't think it's an oversight or lazy devs either, I think it was intentional. I'm just not sure why.

[D.Sharrah]

Quick questions...If (and its a pretty big if), the "Breath Scene" did not exist - how would you have felt about the original endings? The extended endings? IT?

Modifié par D.Sharrah, 07 juillet 2012 - 02:47 .

[masster blaster]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

So no one? flashforward? Rats thought I found something good <_<

Could just be a vision of what could come given by something in your head.

Ya just like if you let the time go out in Arrival, then Shepard see's the future and what is to come.

[MegumiAzusa]

DrTsoni wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...


As EDI said, they transcend mortality... seems Keiji lives on through the memories and with the enhancement comes "back" to live.

Ahhhhhh!!! Starchild is back!! All grown up!! 

Notice how the captions are labled as falsh forward? So that means that they are canon?  

Does anyone know if this slide shows up regardless of your choice in Kasumi's loyalty mission?

In Synthesis? Yes, it always shows up. I used the same file to see all the endings and I had destroyed it, got that slide for Control/Destroy and this for Synthesis.

Answer my question and I let you go.
What does it mean?
A) A bug.
Indoctrination.
C) Lazy developer.
D) An oversight.

If it was indoctrination, why wouldn't it show up like this in Control though? I don't think it's an oversight or lazy devs either, I think it was intentional. I'm just not sure why.

Actually, for control it looks like this:

And there is NO equivalent for destroy.

[byne]

MegumiAzusa wrote...


Actually, for control it looks like this:

And there is NO equivalent for destroy.

There isnt? I could have sworn I got that in destroy.

Modifié par byne, 07 juillet 2012 - 02:49 .

[D.Sharrah]

TJBartlemus wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

http://social.biowar...2/1626#13007068

Is it possible that the similarites that I mention in the post linked above, is another example of Shep using his memories to help shape what is occuring in the indoctrination attempt?

Waking Nightmare Theory!!!  

Yes.  It was one of the first things that hit me when I watched the Synthesis ending...but EDI already told me that!

[TJBartlemus]

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

So have we found out why the DLC is so large?

My awnser. A good percentage is what we have seen. A small portion of the % are hidden files that are meant to be revealed later with new DLC. Or maybe there is more than a small %, but the bigger it is, the harder it is to hide. That's why it's got to be small enough so people at first glance wouldn't notice it. 

[masster blaster]

DrTsoni wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...


As EDI said, they transcend mortality... seems Keiji lives on through the memories and with the enhancement comes "back" to live.

Ahhhhhh!!! Starchild is back!! All grown up!! 

Notice how the captions are labled as falsh forward? So that means that they are canon?  

Does anyone know if this slide shows up regardless of your choice in Kasumi's loyalty mission?

In Synthesis? Yes, it always shows up. I used the same file to see all the endings and I had destroyed it, got that slide for Control/Destroy and this for Synthesis.

Answer my question and I let you go.
What does it mean?
A) A bug.
Indoctrination.
C) Lazy developer.
D) An oversight.

If it was indoctrination, why wouldn't it show up like this in Control though? I don't think it's an oversight or lazy devs either, I think it was intentional. I'm just not sure why.

Well in Control nothing happens except Shepard becoming a Reaper and the Catalyst still probably Controling fake Reaper Shepard and is making him/her kill his/her friends in the Real world. And reparing the Mass Relays and preparing for the next cycle.

Modifié par masster blaster, 07 juillet 2012 - 02:51 .

[Nightingale]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...


As EDI said, they transcend mortality... seems Keiji lives on through the memories and with the enhancement comes "back" to live.

Ahhhhhh!!! Starchild is back!! All grown up!! 

Notice how the captions are labled as falsh forward? So that means that they are canon?  

Does anyone know if this slide shows up regardless of your choice in Kasumi's loyalty mission?

In Synthesis? Yes, it always shows up. I used the same file to see all the endings and I had destroyed it, got that slide for Control/Destroy and this for Synthesis.

Answer my question and I let you go.
What does it mean?
A) A bug.
Indoctrination.
C) Lazy developer.
D) An oversight.

If it was indoctrination, why wouldn't it show up like this in Control though? I don't think it's an oversight or lazy devs either, I think it was intentional. I'm just not sure why.

Actually, for control it looks like this:

And there is NO equivalent for destroy.

That's what I'm saying. Why get this for Control instead of the one where she's with Keiji even if you let her keep the greybox?

I got this in my Destroy ending and Control when I went back with the same file. The only time I got the one where she was with Keiji was Synthesis, even though my Shepard destroyed the greybox.
I think there's something of a miscommunication here

[Fingertrip]

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...


Actually, for control it looks like this:

And there is NO equivalent for destroy.

There isnt? I could have sworn I got that in destroy.

Same, I got this in Destroy ending with 10k EMS. Yes, I play a share bit of multiplayer. 

[masster blaster]

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...


Actually, for control it looks like this:

And there is NO equivalent for destroy.

There isnt? I could have sworn I got that in destroy.

I got that too in Destroy and it"s in the Destroy EC on youtube. You just have to find the right one for Destroy EC.

[MegumiAzusa]

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...


Actually, for control it looks like this:

And there is NO equivalent for destroy.

There isnt? I could have sworn I got that in destroy.

At least nothing designated as such.
http://thundermods.n...ith/kasumie.jpg
If the same one should appear in both Control and Destroy it should have been named End03_CD_FlashForward_KasumiSit.bik like they did for End03_CD_Sham.bik for example.

[TJBartlemus]

D.Sharrah wrote...

Quick questions...If (and its a pretty big if), the "Breath Scene" did not exist - how would you have felt about the original endings? The extended endings? IT?

I would still pick destroy because it is the most hopeful, it doesn't impose your decision on the galaxy and you accomplish what you set out for the whole series. No breathe scene I feel is the death of IT. 

[masster blaster]

Does anyone know if Donnaliy, and Gabbie died in ME2, or you did not release them. Are they in any ending at all, and if so then ya there is something wrong with the ending.

Just like if you destroyed the Greybox yourself, then why does Kasumi still have it and espacialy in Synthesis.

Modifié par masster blaster, 07 juillet 2012 - 02:57 .

[MegumiAzusa]

D.Sharrah wrote...

Quick questions...If (and its a pretty big if), the "Breath Scene" did not exist - how would you have felt about the original endings? The extended endings? IT?

For me it would be the same as now. Or in Sheps words:
"And if I die, I'll die knowing that I did everything I could to stop [the Reapers]. And I'll die free."

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 07 juillet 2012 - 02:58 .

[Priss Blackburne]

going to ask because it's bugging me. Does the definition of Flashforward mean anything in regards to the epilogue slides being false? Or is it just a literary term I'm not used to? I always thought it was fastforward.

[Simon_Says]

Flashforward is like a flashback just backwards, Priss. It shows events in the future of the narrative but then returns to the 'present' time. Fastforward is just a timeskip.

Also I too got that Kasumi sit screen in my >7000 EMS destroy epilogue.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 07 juillet 2012 - 03:02 .

[Arian Dynas]

TJBartlemus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

@Arian - Awww....10 bucks!! Why not for freeeeee?!?!?!

Because EA needs to make SOME money.

Pfffffttttt.....for all some people care, they would rather let BioWare contiinue to give DLC for free and "fumble in darkness" until they get it right. In my opinion, I think they will not give anymore after ending DLC because:

1- They did it once already.
2- If they did it would negate all the work they did for EC.
3- (I love this one.) Speculation=hype=money.
4- Hints in new DLC are a better motivation for people to buy all their DLC in the future than just giving up and let out the truth.
5- If they revealed the truth, then ME3 would start to fade away afterwards. This would make any DLC a luxury instead of a need, because you know what is going to happen. Also the longer ME3 is in the trays and getting sold, that means the more money they make.

Hence, why this DLC is proposed as "The Arrival" to ME3. A preperation to ME4.

Besides, this is not "Ending DLC" it's "Epilogue DLC"

There's a difference.

Both count as "after ending" DLC. Anything after ME3's ending as it is would reveal the truth. If they were going to reveal the truth why not put it in ME4? (That's what they'll do. No doubt.) They could reveal the truth before ME4 Arian, (unlikely) they could do that type of script you have for DLC. Or make it an "Arcade game" on Live. (And whatever the equivalent on PSN and Origin.) I think for your script for the DLC it would be cooler to start off as a new character and then you find Shepard. Then you have the choice of continuing as your guy, or Shepard. (or it could end when you find Shepard and then cinematic scenes.)

Three reasons I say DLC.

1. "ME3 is the end of Shepard's Story" this reason alone must be enough to wrap the whole thing up in ME3.

2. It gives them a fresh, clean slate with no unecessary baggage to deal with in what SHOULD be another character's story. Something like a mindscrew as big as indoctrination is something that deserves to be resolved in it's own story, not someone else's.

3. Quite simply, no Mass Effect game is complete without all it's DLC.

[masster blaster]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Quick questions...If (and its a pretty big if), the "Breath Scene" did not exist - how would you have felt about the original endings? The extended endings? IT?

For me it would be the same as now. Or in Sheps words:
"And if I die, I'll die knowing that I did everything I could to stop [the Reapers]. And I'll die free."

Well I would be pissed for a bit, but then there is the Viper Nebula, so still in the fight if they did not fix that part in the game.

Modifié par masster blaster, 07 juillet 2012 - 03:01 .

[MegumiAzusa]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

going to ask because it's bugging me. Does the definition of Flashforward mean anything in regards to the epilogue slides being false? Or is it just a literary term I'm not used to? I always thought it was fastforward.

Fastforward is just something that gets played faster, lately it occurred more often people using this word instead of flashforward. Flashforward is afaik the original term and fastforward lately got two meanings that incorporates it.

[Priss Blackburne]

Simon_Says wrote...

Flashforward is like a flashback just backwards, Priss. It shows events in the future of the narrative but then returns to the 'present' time. Fastforward is just a timeskip.

so does that say anything about IT and the epilogue cards being called that? or grasping at straws?

ah okay rats <_<

Modifié par Priss Blackburne, 07 juillet 2012 - 03:02 .

[Turbo_J]

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...


Actually, for control it looks like this:

And there is NO equivalent for destroy.

There isnt? I could have sworn I got that in destroy.

I got this in Destroy as well.

[Arian Dynas]

Also, Simon, check your Selfish Meme thread, I've posted my thoughts now.

[masster blaster]

But the stargazer scene still kind of gives me some hope, since if this was to be the last of Shepard. Then why do they still have " Tell me another story about the Shepard. It's getting late, but okay. ONE MORE STORY."

If this is to be the end of Shepard then why do they still have this scene if the EC was to clarify the endings, and they did say no more adding to the endings, but come on. Bioware can lie to about what they say, so maybe this isn't the last we hear about Shepard or play Shepard.

[masster blaster]

masster blaster wrote...

Does anyone know if Donnaliy, and Gabbie died in ME2, or you did not release them. Are they in any ending at all, and if so then ya there is something wrong with the ending.

Just like if you destroyed the Greybox yourself, then why does Kasumi still have it and espacialy in Synthesis.

So nobody else does not know about this if this is true, or not.