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D.Sharrah wrote...

Is the difference in the Jack slide if you have the "kids" as "fighters vs defenders"?


Fighters die.

Defenders live.

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masster blaster wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Something else that is quite odd:
There are only two slides for love interests, Miranda and Jack
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And both have the D (destroy) tag.


That can not BE EARTH. And if they are someware else then hell.

Wait why are they looking up at the star's if Shepard is alive in Destroy, instead of trying to find Shepard in the rubble.


Well those are for ME2 romances. ME3 romance for Liara/Tali/Ashely have them looking at the plaque for Shepard and then going off to look for him.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Does anyone know about Donelly or Gabby? If they died in ME2 or you didn't release them, are they in any ending at all? If so, then ya there is something wrong with that ending.

As for the Greybox, why does Kasumi still have it if you destroyed it, and especially in Synthesis?


Cleaned it up for you. In so far as I know, Gabby and Donelly do not appear in any of the endings, but I likely could be profoundly wrong.


Any thoughts to what I said Arian about they are on Earth with Coats.
The are they are with Coats in all endings if they lived and you releasd them in ME3.


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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Something else that is quite odd:
There are only two slides for love interests, Miranda and Jack
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And both have the D (destroy) tag.


The other LIs are either dead or on the Normandy. Or Jacob but nobody cares about him. As for only being tagged D, it's probably for the same reason the LIs on the Normandy smile.

D.Sharrah wrote...

Is the difference in the Jack slide if you have the "kids" as "fighters vs defenders"?


The above image is only if she's romanced and you see the breath scene. Otherwise, yes. If you choose to have them on the frontlines, you get the one where she's in front of their graves. If you have them as support, you see her with them instead.

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Damn Jack and her weapon slot lights. They're just taunting me with the fact that it seems like she was designed to be a squadmate, and then they ditched the idea.

I mean, they put a lot of work into Jack's new ME3 appearance for her to appear only two or three times...


Squadmate DLC's are SO coming anyway.

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lex0r11 wrote...

byne wrote...

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Damn Jack and her weapon slot lights. They're just taunting me with the fact that it seems like she was designed to be a squadmate, and then they ditched the idea.

I mean, they put a lot of work into Jack's new ME3 appearance for her to appear only two or three times...


Squadmate DLC's are SO coming anyway.


I'd totally buy Jack and Grunt squadmate DLCs.

The ME3 squad is severely lacking in kill-happy maniacs.

And COMPLETELY lacking in krogan.

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D.Sharrah wrote...

Is the difference in the Jack slide if you have the "kids" as "fighters vs defenders"?

No, that they make quite clear
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byne wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

byne wrote...

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Damn Jack and her weapon slot lights. They're just taunting me with the fact that it seems like she was designed to be a squadmate, and then they ditched the idea.

I mean, they put a lot of work into Jack's new ME3 appearance for her to appear only two or three times...


Squadmate DLC's are SO coming anyway.


I'd totally buy Jack and Grunt squadmate DLCs.

The ME3 squad is severely lacking in kill-happy maniacs.

And COMPLETELY lacking in krogan.


Don't forget Wrex

" I am Urdnot Wrex , and THIS is my Planet!"

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Is the difference in the Jack slide if you have the "kids" as "fighters vs defenders"?

No, that they make quite clear
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*snip*

Defensive:
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Wait a minute. Grissom Academy was destroyed...

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byne wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

byne wrote...

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Damn Jack and her weapon slot lights. They're just taunting me with the fact that it seems like she was designed to be a squadmate, and then they ditched the idea.

I mean, they put a lot of work into Jack's new ME3 appearance for her to appear only two or three times...


Squadmate DLC's are SO coming anyway.


I'd totally buy Jack and Grunt squadmate DLCs.

The ME3 squad is severely lacking in kill-happy maniacs.

And COMPLETELY lacking in krogan.



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It's a shame really.

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byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Is the difference in the Jack slide if you have the "kids" as "fighters vs defenders"?

No, that they make quite clear
Offensive:

*snip*

Defensive:
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Wait a minute. Grissom Academy was destroyed...

*waits a minute* true.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

It's a little weird how they choose which slides go for which endings, if you ask me. I got both Kasumi and Zaeed in my original Destroy, as well as Jacob despite only talking to him twice the entire way through ME2 (for the Normandy upgrade and his loyalty) and never talking to him in ME3 outside of doing his side-mission itself. I expected Miranda, since I harassed her throughout both games to the point I doubt she got any work done :P I understand that, at least, since she doesn't seem to have an ending for Destroy (which sucks and she should, even if she's on the run or something like she implies in the FOB) but some of the others didn't make much more sense.

Afaik slides are based on loyalty mission and if they survived.


I get that - at least, I assumed that's how it was - but I had everyone alive and loyal (except the ones you can't save; ie Mordin for curing the Genophage, Legion and Thane) and I still didn't even get to see some of them. It's like some take priority over others for seemingly no apparent reason.

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Oh and if Kasumi's dead boyfriends comes back from the dead, does that Mean Thane, and Legion can come back, since Thane becomes half robot, and Legion becomes an Organic/Cyborg. So they should be there if Kasumi's Dead boyfriend is there.

i mean in Synthesis alone.

Modifié par masster blaster, 07 juillet 2012 - 03:33 .


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DrTsoni wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

It's a little weird how they choose which slides go for which endings, if you ask me. I got both Kasumi and Zaeed in my original Destroy, as well as Jacob despite only talking to him twice the entire way through ME2 (for the Normandy upgrade and his loyalty) and never talking to him in ME3 outside of doing his side-mission itself. I expected Miranda, since I harassed her throughout both games to the point I doubt she got any work done :P I understand that, at least, since she doesn't seem to have an ending for Destroy (which sucks and she should, even if she's on the run or something like she implies in the FOB) but some of the others didn't make much more sense.

Afaik slides are based on loyalty mission and if they survived.


I get that - at least, I assumed that's how it was - but I had everyone alive and loyal (except the ones you can't save; ie Mordin for curing the Genophage, Legion and Thane) and I still didn't even get to see some of them. It's like some take priority over others for seemingly no apparent reason.

Same here.

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masster blaster wrote...

Oh and if Kasumi's dead boyfriends comes back from the dead, does that Mean Thane, and Legion can come back, since Thane becomes half robot, and Legion becomes an Organic/Cyborg. So they should be there if Kasumi's Dead boyfriend is there.

i mean in Synthesis alone.


Awesome...zombie robots. :pinched: What happens when all they finish rebuilding? After that they lack motivation to do anything. No more wars. Just eternal "peace"? More like purgatory or hell. Having to live and be related to husks or zombie robots would suck. Thanks BioWare. Either literal or not, synthesis just plain sucks.

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masster blaster wrote...

Oh and if Kasumi's dead boyfriends comes back from the dead, does that Mean Thane, and Legion can come back, since Thane becomes half robot, and Legion becomes an Organic/Cyborg. So they should be there if Kasumi's Dead boyfriend is there.

i mean in Synthesis alone.


He's not brought back to life in that way. The best thing I can compare it to is whether you believe Shepard as a Reaper is truly Shepard or just a Reaper with her memories and perhaps her thoughts. Not thinking as Shepard, but remembering who she was. Which I suppose is similar to EDI's question of "are we more than our thoughts" when discussing if she was the Normandy, or merely a passenger...

Anyway, he's not back from the dead. He doesn't have a body but his memories are..."alive" I guess. I know I'm not making much sense, it's hard to explain. Sorry.

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masster blaster wrote...

Oh and if Kasumi's dead boyfriends comes back from the dead, does that Mean Thane, and Legion can come back, since Thane becomes half robot, and Legion becomes an Organic/Cyborg. So they should be there if Kasumi's Dead boyfriend is there.

i mean in Synthesis alone.


Well, I figure the only reason Keiji can come back is because Kasumi has his memories.

And memory is the key.

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By the way, does anyone remember Mordin's talk about how uplifting the krogan was a bad idea? You remember why? Exactly.

Man does synthesis suck.

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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Oh and if Kasumi's dead boyfriends comes back from the dead, does that Mean Thane, and Legion can come back, since Thane becomes half robot, and Legion becomes an Organic/Cyborg. So they should be there if Kasumi's Dead boyfriend is there.

i mean in Synthesis alone.


Well, I figure the only reason Keiji can come back is because Kasumi has his memories.

And memory is the key.


So going by that, Vendetta can also come back in theory?

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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Oh and if Kasumi's dead boyfriends comes back from the dead, does that Mean Thane, and Legion can come back, since Thane becomes half robot, and Legion becomes an Organic/Cyborg. So they should be there if Kasumi's Dead boyfriend is there.

i mean in Synthesis alone.


Well, I figure the only reason Keiji can come back is because Kasumi has his memories.

And memory is the key.


Delta: Oh and tell Wash that Memory is the key.

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ODST was pretty fun though.

They could also do something like Reach, and retell an old battle. Maybe the First Contact War?

So long as they dont pull a Halo Wars and make it an RTS I'd be fine with something like that.


ME: Flexibility?

Love seeing all those ending slides especially the elusive Miranda/Jack ones, beautiful artwork.

Modifié par leonia42, 07 juillet 2012 - 03:48 .


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Im pretty sure Destroy is the only real ending, especially because it shows in the footage that Shepard lives. Also, if anyone here has the collectors edition strategy guide, it says Shepard lives only in the destroy ending.

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DrTsoni wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

It's a little weird how they choose which slides go for which endings, if you ask me. I got both Kasumi and Zaeed in my original Destroy, as well as Jacob despite only talking to him twice the entire way through ME2 (for the Normandy upgrade and his loyalty) and never talking to him in ME3 outside of doing his side-mission itself. I expected Miranda, since I harassed her throughout both games to the point I doubt she got any work done :P I understand that, at least, since she doesn't seem to have an ending for Destroy (which sucks and she should, even if she's on the run or something like she implies in the FOB) but some of the others didn't make much more sense.

Afaik slides are based on loyalty mission and if they survived.


I get that - at least, I assumed that's how it was - but I had everyone alive and loyal (except the ones you can't save; ie Mordin for curing the Genophage, Legion and Thane) and I still didn't even get to see some of them. It's like some take priority over others for seemingly no apparent reason.

My guess is for every group of slides there are always x slides to fit with any voice over. The slides are most likely checked on a random but predefined order (could be based on when they were implemented).
For example when I choose control and Shep is talking about the lost ones she never forgets my screen is just black after the Legion, Mordin, Helmet slides.

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You know instead of the Stargazer it should be Wrex ( if he survived in ME1) and should be telling about Shepard the Hero of the krogan ( if cured the Genophage) and give a speech about Shepard, and a mysteries Child say's "can you tell us another story about the Shepard?"

Wrex smiles " why don"t you ask your Dad (or Mom for female Shepard) about the Shepard.

This is for only for Destroy if you have high EMS.

Ever since Banshee left I have been comeing on the top of a page once and a while. So this makes it the third time to day.

Edit [Shepard apper's right behind Wrex]

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masster blaster wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Does anyone know about Donelly or Gabby? If they died in ME2 or you didn't release them, are they in any ending at all? If so, then ya there is something wrong with that ending.

As for the Greybox, why does Kasumi still have it if you destroyed it, and especially in Synthesis?


Cleaned it up for you. In so far as I know, Gabby and Donelly do not appear in any of the endings, but I likely could be profoundly wrong.


Any thoughts to what I said Arian about they are on Earth with Coats.

The are they are with Coats in all endings if they lived and you releasd them in ME3.


Or anybody?

Modifié par masster blaster, 07 juillet 2012 - 03:58 .