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It could be a bit of PTSD but most likely its more than that. If anything, you'd think PTSD would manifest after being brought back from the dead and not like several months later.

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Honestly I'm still hung up on how Synthesis can bring people back from the dead (Keiji)...

How can anyone take that seriously?

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CoolioThane wrote...

Is this the point where SubAstris asks questions a) B) and c) then receives an answer followed by him ignoring the answers and asking questions B) c) and a) ?


Could your comments be any more ignorant or pointless?

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insomniak9 wrote...

"Dreams" sounds better slowed down sped up and reversed. O.o

Not important, just cool :D

Backwards sped-up Dream sequence


That IS pretty cool. Posted Image

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Rifneno wrote...

I lose a little bit more faith in humanity everytime someone seriously believes it's PTSD. And my "faith in humanity" meter already reads "law enforcement agencies are the only reason most people don't eat their own children."

:(


Drama Queen much?

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leonia42 wrote...

It could be a bit of PTSD but most likely its more than that. If anything, you'd think PTSD would manifest after being brought back from the dead and not like several months later.


PTSD involves an aversion to the things involved in the evnt that caused the PTSD. The Asari who suffers from a case of PTSD in Huerta Memorial Hosiptal has an aversion to showers and humans after what she went through and Kelly Chambers wont go back aboard the Normandy because it was there she was kidnapped by the Collectors.

So by all logic Shepard if he suffered from PTSD should have an aversion to Reapers and Children. Later one i cant say anything regading, but first one i think can be crossed out.

EDIT:

Not even mentioning that it is this kid that supposedly causes PTSD in Shepard? He has been to hell and back and unless you did perfect run throughs of Mass Effect 1 and 2 he probably lost a few close friends on the way. Hell just Ashley and Kaidan, the unavoidable choice should be so much closer to causing PTSD.

Not even mentioning if Shepard is of the "Sole Survivor" background...

And this kid supposedly causes PTSD?

Give me a break, between the events Shepard has been through and the fact that the symptoms dont match PTSD can be crossed out with the blackest marker one can find.

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

It could be a bit of PTSD but most likely its more than that. If anything, you'd think PTSD would manifest after being brought back from the dead and not like several months later.


PTSD involves an aversion to the things involved in the evnt that caused the PTSD. The Asari who suffers from a case of PTSD in Huerta Memorial Hosiptal has an aversion to showers and humans after what she went through and Kelly Chambers wont go back aboard the Normandy because it was there she was kidnapped by the Collectors.

So by all logic Shepard if he suffered from PTSD should have an aversion to Reapers and Children. Later one i cant say anything regading, but first one i think can be crossed out.


*Giggle* an Aversion to children sounds like a few guys I know.

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Andromidius wrote...

Honestly I'm still hung up on how Synthesis can bring people back from the dead (Keiji)...

How can anyone take that seriously?

What do you mean ?

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SirLugash wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Honestly I'm still hung up on how Synthesis can bring people back from the dead (Keiji)...

How can anyone take that seriously?

What do you mean ?


He appears in one of the slides with Kasumi in the Synthesis ending.

Space Magic ahoy.

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leonia42 wrote...

It could be a bit of PTSD but most likely its more than that. If anything, you'd think PTSD would manifest after being brought back from the dead and not like several months later.


By the logic of PTSD believers, everyone has PTSD. Have you had a nightmare? Doesn't matter what the nightmare was of. Congratulations, you have PTSD!

If there was a mundane explanation for the dreams, why wasn't it addressed? If it was just PTSD then why was it even put in the story? It didn't advance the story or any subplots and it was never even resolved. Why go to all that trouble for a subplot that just gets dropped without a word? It doesn't make sense from a story perspective or a medical one. Oh yes, speaking of which, one of the biggest parts of PTSD is an extreme aversion to the situation that traumatized you. Meaning Shepard would be desperately scrambling for reasons to avoid the Reapers if he had PTSD. But it was pretty much the exact opposite.

Rosewind wrote...

Drama Queen much?


It's called "exaggeration for comedic effect." You know, like that missing teeth crack I made which you reacted to like Origin was an internet dating service.
Don't know what your problem with me is. Don't really care to be honest. Let me just repeat yesterday's suggestion: stop reading my posts then.

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Rifneno wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

It could be a bit of PTSD but most likely its more than that. If anything, you'd think PTSD would manifest after being brought back from the dead and not like several months later.


By the logic of PTSD believers, everyone has PTSD. Have you had a nightmare? Doesn't matter what the nightmare was of. Congratulations, you have PTSD!

If there was a mundane explanation for the dreams, why wasn't it addressed? If it was just PTSD then why was it even put in the story? It didn't advance the story or any subplots and it was never even resolved. Why go to all that trouble for a subplot that just gets dropped without a word? It doesn't make sense from a story perspective or a medical one. Oh yes, speaking of which, one of the biggest parts of PTSD is an extreme aversion to the situation that traumatized you. Meaning Shepard would be desperately scrambling for reasons to avoid the Reapers if he had PTSD. But it was pretty much the exact opposite.

Rosewind wrote...

Drama Queen much?


It's called "exaggeration for comedic effect." You know, like that missing teeth crack I made which you reacted to like Origin was an internet dating service.
Don't know what your problem with me is. Don't really care to be honest. Let me just repeat yesterday's suggestion: stop reading my posts then.


Missing teeth crack? I think you must be hallucinating cause I have no idea what your talking about.

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
PTSD involves an aversion to the things involved in the evnt that caused the PTSD. The Asari who suffers from a case of PTSD in Huerta Memorial Hosiptal has an aversion to showers and humans after what she went through and Kelly Chambers wont go back aboard the Normandy because it was there she was kidnapped by the Collectors.

So by all logic Shepard if he suffered from PTSD should have an aversion to Reapers and Children. Later one i cant say anything regading, but first one i think can be crossed out.

EDIT:

Not even mentioning that it is this kid that supposedly causes PTSD in Shepard? He has been to hell and back and unless you did perfect run throughs of Mass Effect 1 and 2 he probably lost a few close friends on the way. Hell just Ashley and Kaidan, the unavoidable choice should be so much closer to causing PTSD.

Not even mentioning if Shepard is of the "Sole Survivor" background...

And this kid supposedly causes PTSD?

Give me a break, between the events Shepard has been through and the fact that the symptoms dont match PTSD can be crossed out with the blackest marker one can find.


Good point! The "Sole Survivor", according to the description, should already crash the PTSD-argument.

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Right, note to self: never say PTSD in this thread.

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leonia42 wrote...

Right, note to self: never say PTSD in this thread.


Sorry if it came of a bit agressive, but we have had to repost the same bits about PTSD and the like many times over the past months. Gets a bit tiresome :P

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 07 juillet 2012 - 03:35 .


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SR-2 can't land on planets like Earth because of its size. It was mentioned in ME2. That's why the Kodiak was introduced. So how they managed to land by the beam?

Modifié par paxxton, 07 juillet 2012 - 03:40 .


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paxxton wrote...

SR-2 can't land on planets like Earth because of its size. It was mentioned in ME2. That's why the Kodiak was introduced. So how they managed to land by the beam?


Same way it lands at the beginning of the game.

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AxStapleton wrote...

paxxton wrote...

SR-2 can't land on planets like Earth because of its size. It was mentioned in ME2. That's why the Kodiak was introduced. So how they managed to land by the beam?


Same way it lands at the beginning of the game.

It shouldn't.

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AxStapleton wrote...

paxxton wrote...

SR-2 can't land on planets like Earth because of its size. It was mentioned in ME2. That's why the Kodiak was introduced. So how they managed to land by the beam?


Same way it lands at the beginning of the game.


Actually it dosent land at the beginning of the game, it is hovering some meters above the water as it picks Shepard up. Cant remember if the same is the case in the EC pickup though.

However I wouldnt put much into it as it as general ship based advancements might have made it capable of landing.

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paxxton wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

paxxton wrote...

SR-2 can't land on planets like Earth because of its size. It was mentioned in ME2. That's why the Kodiak was introduced. So how they managed to land by the beam?


Same way it lands at the beginning of the game.

It shouldn't.

Indoctrination!
Nah, Reapers shot beams from their legs/fingers/tentacles. Now they need some strange weakpoint eye. Way to go continuity.

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

paxxton wrote...

SR-2 can't land on planets like Earth because of its size. It was mentioned in ME2. That's why the Kodiak was introduced. So how they managed to land by the beam?


Same way it lands at the beginning of the game.


Actually it dosent land at the beginning of the game, it is hovering some meters above the water as it picks Shepard up. Cant remember if the same is the case in the EC pickup though.

However I wouldnt put much into it as it as general ship based advancements might have made it capable of landing.

Landing or hovering above surface - the difference is irrelevant. It's almost the same gravitational pull.

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

paxxton wrote...

SR-2 can't land on planets like Earth because of its size. It was mentioned in ME2. That's why the Kodiak was introduced. So how they managed to land by the beam?


Same way it lands at the beginning of the game.


Actually it dosent land at the beginning of the game, it is hovering some meters above the water as it picks Shepard up. Cant remember if the same is the case in the EC pickup though.

However I wouldnt put much into it as it as general ship based advancements might have made it capable of landing.

It doesn't land for the evac, but it lands after the color explosions.

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paxxton wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

paxxton wrote...

SR-2 can't land on planets like Earth because of its size. It was mentioned in ME2. That's why the Kodiak was introduced. So how they managed to land by the beam?


Same way it lands at the beginning of the game.


Actually it dosent land at the beginning of the game, it is hovering some meters above the water as it picks Shepard up. Cant remember if the same is the case in the EC pickup though.

However I wouldnt put much into it as it as general ship based advancements might have made it capable of landing.

Landing or hovering above surface - the difference is irrelevant. It's almost the same gravitational pull.

Mass Effect fields don't care about gravity.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Indoctrination!
Nah, Reapers shot beams from their legs/fingers/tentacles. Now they need some strange weakpoint eye. Way to go continuity.


That weak point is only shown on Destroyer class reapers which were Introduced with ME3.

Also the beam we see the Reapers use as opposed to the tentacle beams is their main weapon. According to the codex it runs the length of the ship, like in a Dreadnought, and no Dreadnought has taken a direct hit from it and survived.

Considering how Sovereign needed to position to try and reagin control of the Citadel it is pretty clear why he could not use his main gun.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

paxxton wrote...

SR-2 can't land on planets like Earth because of its size. It was mentioned in ME2. That's why the Kodiak was introduced. So how they managed to land by the beam?


Same way it lands at the beginning of the game.


Actually it dosent land at the beginning of the game, it is hovering some meters above the water as it picks Shepard up. Cant remember if the same is the case in the EC pickup though.

However I wouldnt put much into it as it as general ship based advancements might have made it capable of landing.

Landing or hovering above surface - the difference is irrelevant. It's almost the same gravitational pull.

Mass Effect fields don't care about gravity.

I don't know. It's too convenient. Maybe the answer is in the codex. I think it has to do with the mass effect engine size and power. 

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Mass Effect fields don't care about gravity.


Yeah I would guess that is the case as well. But I wonder what exactly the problem is with landing on a planet with most ships is then...think ill try to look that up.

But definetly interesting that the Normandy is completely grounded in the epilogue and yet dosent seem to ahve any problems getting of planet again.

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