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[BatmanTurian]

byne wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

if they have no Eezo core, then they can't reduce their mass and hover.

Lack of an Eezo Core would likely cause the ship to be torn apart during entry to the planet's atmosphere as well.  That's even assuming it could survive slowing from FTL speeds without the Core too.

But then Sci-Fi is rarely consistant with itself.  Star Trek is dreadful for this, especially when they lose Initial Dampners - they merely jiggle about a bit instead of being reduced to a bloody mess on the walls.  So I think I can forgive that.  Though probably not in combination with all the other problems presented.

*yawn*  Tired.

And that's why I don't watch Star Trek anymore.

I mean besides the implausible panspermia human headmask aliens.

Asari make me cringe, which is why I still choose to believe they mind control to make their faces look like the female of the species looking at them.

If that's true...and they plan on having any Asari in the movie that could be interesting...b/c they would have to show a "different face" every time you are looking at an Asari through the eyes of a different species...

Thats why I never bought that idea. Surely there are artists who draw pictures of asari, photographers who take pictures of asari, filmmakers who film asari. You'd think someone would be like 'Hey! The asari in these drawings/pictures/movies look nothing like actual asari!'

People always use this scene as evidence for that, but to me, it seems like each species is just focusing on the part of the asari most attractive to them, not like the asari is using some kind of diabolical mind control ray beam.

That seems logical. Those guys are supposed to be drunk anyway. I think we're supposed to wonder. But ultimately, visual evidence would prove they're manipulating the mind and that evidence just doesn't exist. It's still strange that they look like humans.

[Andromidius]

byne wrote...

People always use this scene as evidence for that, but to me, it seems like each species is just focusing on the part of the asari most attractive to them, not like the asari is using some kind of diabolical mind control ray beam.

I think if they did alter their appearence for other races, they'd look the same for all of them.

Course, there's nothing to suggest this is actually the case.  Just an inkling, and the vibes I get when I see their 'ears' and neck.

Its why I'd never bring myself to romance Liara.  Weird reason, I know.  But flaps instead of ears just creep me out.

[estebanus]

All right, I'm off. See you later!

[BatmanTurian]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

if they have no Eezo core, then they can't reduce their mass and hover.

Lack of an Eezo Core would likely cause the ship to be torn apart during entry to the planet's atmosphere as well.  That's even assuming it could survive slowing from FTL speeds without the Core too.

But then Sci-Fi is rarely consistant with itself.  Star Trek is dreadful for this, especially when they lose Initial Dampners - they merely jiggle about a bit instead of being reduced to a bloody mess on the walls.  So I think I can forgive that.  Though probably not in combination with all the other problems presented.

*yawn*  Tired.

And that's why I don't watch Star Trek anymore.

I mean besides the implausible panspermia human headmask aliens.

Asari make me cringe, which is why I still choose to believe they mind control to make their faces look like the female of the species looking at them.

Humanoid aliens, from a logical standpoint, aren't actually as far off as scientists would have us believe. Opposable thumbs and a physique that allows for dexterity should be at least minimum requirements, meaning that without the Protheans, the Hanar would still be jellyfish floating in the oceans. Personally, I find aliens like many in Star Wars (ex. Selinians) to be more implausible than the human headmask ones. Granted, it is also highly unlikely that the heads would be that similar to humans, so those are still almost as implausible.

the simularity to humans in the face is my pet peeve. Otherwise, bipedal or centauri physiques are acceptable unless there is some other radically different physiology we've just never imagined possible.

[comrade gando]

Andromidius wrote...

SubAstris wrote...
BW are just saying that to get out of the s***storm they are already out. If you want to stay it isn't straightforward though, be me guest

They were saying this pre-launch as well, though.  So its pretty obvious it was their intention.

well they said a lot of things pre-launch, and I think the majority of their statements so far are completely FALSE when I actually play the game. why would they lie like this? it's dirty business I tell you.

[Either.Ardrey]

estebanus wrote...
Well for them, the energy wave is a total unknown, right? They don't know what will happen if they get hit by it. Maybe the eezo core will deactivate, maybe the circuits that regulate the Normandy's power could be destroyed. This could result in the Normandy falling out of the sky, which would result in a lot of damage. It's better to touch down on the planet, so that they can't fall out of the sky. 

As for Joker coming out, well he probably wanted to see where they actually landed. As such, he goes out with Shepard's two most trusted crewmates to see what the situation is. Maybe something happened to the hull of the Normandy, or even worse yet, she could have a hole. Since Joker loves the Normandy the most, he probably also wanted to see what exactly happened to his girl.

This is why I wondered why they ran away at all. I would have been better (and closer) to just land on Earth. That way, when the wave hit, they'd be close to the ground rather than in space, and at least they'd be on a familiar planet.

[byne]

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...

People always use this scene as evidence for that, but to me, it seems like each species is just focusing on the part of the asari most attractive to them, not like the asari is using some kind of diabolical mind control ray beam.

I think if they did alter their appearence for other races, they'd look the same for all of them.

Course, there's nothing to suggest this is actually the case.  Just an inkling, and the vibes I get when I see their 'ears' and neck.

Its why I'd never bring myself to romance Liara.  Weird reason, I know.  But flaps instead of ears just creep me out.

Liara is way too awesome for me to get hung up on something as trivial as appearance.

Plus, asari look the same no matter what race you play as in multiplayer. Though I realize that doesnt really prove anything.

[niravital]

Iucounou wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

As for the child. Explain to us how it could have acquired this image of the child and know that it was emotionially significant for Shepard?

There's no way Star Jar could have known about the child unless it had a way of looking inside Shepard's head or accessing his thoughts/emotions somehow.

And even if he did, why choose something so sensitive in Shep's eyes like a child if not to try and manipulate him?
He could take the shape of anything he wanted, why not his LI/Hackett/Anderson/some-random-marine-dude/gal?

[Arian Dynas]

Rifneno wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Rif... simmer down. Megumi was right. You can't write posts and expect people not to reply to them. I'm pretty sure she wasn't attacking you by saying that. Your response was uncalled for.

Try looking into the topic before jumping in.  Yesterday Rosewind got on my case for replying to an 8 hour old post (wha?).  Today she called me a drama queen for making a joke.  So I told her if I bother her to stop reading my damn posts.  Megumi, likely still pouty at having been called on her trash about HellishFiend's infrasound video, started... bah, maybe she really did think that was the context.  Lord knows it wouldn't be the first time she was so far off a mark.

Rifneno, THE DRAMA QUEEN COMMENT WAS A JOKE.

I know where you're coming from, I've been in the same place, but calm the **** down. We DO respect you here, so don't think we're going out of our way to attack you.

As some friends of mine have pointed out to me, if we DIDN'T make fun of you a little bit, it would mean we DON'T respect you.

Thicken your skin up a bit man. It won't hurt.

[BatmanTurian]

comrade gando wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

it seems bioware went out of their way to make the endings look like "yup this is the end, now shut up and swallow" (jk lol), but they also went out of their way to add in other strangeness that shouldn't be happening normally. my guess is to give an indicator that something isn't right but then they go and try to end the game on a cliffhanger again and it's like make up your mind bioware!

I bet that if you looked at any ending in as much detail as this one has you would find a whole host of strange goings-on

Yes, but not every ending has an author telling you to make up your own mind about it.

and that sir pisses me off to no end. they're honestly telling me to make up my own ending?? I might as well make up the middle and beginning while I'm at it. wtf is wrong with these people. they must be indoctrinated by the rEApers thats the only thing I can think of.

sigh everything after harbinger's laser just flies way way way into wtf territory

It's what we're given. What else can we do, yanno?

[Andromidius]

Either.Ardrey wrote...
Humanoid aliens, from a logical standpoint, aren't actually as far off as scientists would have us believe. Opposable thumbs and a physique that allows for dexterity should be at least minimum requirements, meaning that without the Protheans, the Hanar would still be jellyfish floating in the oceans. Personally, I find aliens like many in Star Wars (ex. Selinians) to be more implausible than the human headmask ones. Granted, it is also highly unlikely that the heads would be that similar to humans, so those are still almost as implausible.

They actually explained why all the major races are humanoid with the Next Generation episode 'The Chase', by explaining that they were all seeded on different worlds by a progenitor race.

However, they then blow that idea full of holes when its stated there are at least a dozen crew on board from races that didn't have the DNA markers common with the seeded races.  And they were all humanoid.  So yeah >_>

[niravital]

paxxton wrote...
Mars has nice motifs too. Many other are awesome. LOL. It's hard to choose the best ones.

The End Run ME2 

[Priss Blackburne]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Well for them, the energy wave is a total unknown, right? They don't know what will happen if they get hit by it. Maybe the eezo core will deactivate, maybe the circuits that regulate the Normandy's power could be destroyed. This could result in the Normandy falling out of the sky, which would result in a lot of damage. It's better to touch down on the planet, so that they can't fall out of the sky. 

As for Joker coming out, well he probably wanted to see where they actually landed. As such, he goes out with Shepard's two most trusted crewmates to see what the situation is. Maybe something happened to the hull of the Normandy, or even worse yet, she could have a hole. Since Joker loves the Normandy the most, he probably also wanted to see what exactly happened to his girl.

This is why I wondered why they ran away at all. I would have been better (and closer) to just land on Earth. That way, when the wave hit, they'd be close to the ground rather than in space, and at least they'd be on a familiar planet.

they may have been worried the fact that you need to slow down to land on a planet and would not have enough time to land and end up being smashed by the wave against the surface. Better to ride it out then take the full blow? And they had no reason to believe it went freaking everywhere lol

[BatmanTurian]

comrade gando wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

SubAstris wrote...
BW are just saying that to get out of the s***storm they are already out. If you want to stay it isn't straightforward though, be me guest

They were saying this pre-launch as well, though.  So its pretty obvious it was their intention.

well they said a lot of things pre-launch, and I think the majority of their statements so far are completely FALSE when I actually play the game. why would they lie like this? it's dirty business I tell you.

And that's why I can't trust what they write or what they show us. I'm told to look at the ending at face value, but I'm supposed to ignore that Bioware has a history of screwing with the player.

[Either.Ardrey]

Andromidius wrote...

I think if they did alter their appearence for other races, they'd look the same for all of them.

Course, there's nothing to suggest this is actually the case.  Just an inkling, and the vibes I get when I see their 'ears' and neck.

Its why I'd never bring myself to romance Liara.  Weird reason, I know.  But flaps instead of ears just creep me out.

Lol, that part never bothered me, since, to me, ears are just as strange as those flaps.

[Andromidius]

byne wrote...
Liara is way too awesome for me to get hung up on something as trivial as appearance.

Plus, asari look the same no matter what race you play as in multiplayer. Though I realize that doesnt really prove anything.

*cough* Tali has more personality and better hips *cough*



But yeah, its a very outrageous concept honestly.  Though I could also imagine the MP team's faces if they were told they had to remodel Asari for each race's perspective.  They would not be pleased (they'd essentially need to design 8 brand new races?)!

[BatmanTurian]

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...
Liara is way too awesome for me to get hung up on something as trivial as appearance.

Plus, asari look the same no matter what race you play as in multiplayer. Though I realize that doesnt really prove anything.

*cough* Tali has more personality and better hips *cough*



But yeah, its a very outrageous concept honestly.  Though I could also imagine the MP team's faces if they were told they had to remodel Asari for each race's perspective.  They would not be pleased (they'd essentially need to design 8 brand new races?)!

That would have been cool, but I guess this is evidence that Bioware is lazy, right?

[comrade gando]

BatmanTurian wrote...

It's what we're given. What else can we do, yanno?

we can always speculate xD

I swear bioware better be up to something huge here, I remember in their pre-release quotes they were talking about advancing the story through DLC or something, which by itself is bogus (what now we gotta pay MORE to get more information?). but at this point, I'm willing to pay more money if that gets me an epic ending worthy of the mass effect franchise and makes me want to play this game again. because right now... I'm not feeling it bioware. the last 20 minutes is a literary mess, even with your extended cut dlc. Thanks for EC... but no thanks. you're going to have to do a LOT better than that.

[niravital]

masster blaster wrote...

Can the both of you stop. Look we are here to specualte on IT not fight each other because one rants and the other rants to.

 

"This is what they want! they got us fighting each other instead of fighting them!" 

[BatmanTurian]

niravital wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Can the both of you stop. Look we are here to specualte on IT not fight each other because one rants and the other rants to.

 

"This is what they want! they got us fighting each other instead of fighting them!" 

This sums up the last 4 months.

[byne]

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...
Liara is way too awesome for me to get hung up on something as trivial as appearance.

Plus, asari look the same no matter what race you play as in multiplayer. Though I realize that doesnt really prove anything.

*cough* Tali has more personality and better hips *cough*

Tali is my second favorite LI, and I'd totally romance her if they hadnt chickened out and removed the Tali/FemShep romance from ME2 at the last minute, but even so, I cant completely get over the fact that Tali seems more like a younger sister than a romantic interest.

[BatmanTurian]

comrade gando wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

It's what we're given. What else can we do, yanno?

we can always speculate xD

I swear bioware better be up to something huge here, I remember in their pre-release quotes they were talking about advancing the story through DLC or something, which by itself is bogus (what now we gotta pay MORE to get more information?). but at this point, I'm willing to pay more money if that gets me an epic ending worthy of the mass effect franchise and makes me want to play this game again. because right now... I'm not feeling it bioware. the last 20 minutes is a literary mess, even with your extended cut dlc. Thanks for EC... but no thanks. you're going to have to do a LOT better than that.

I agree. The EC was, storytelling-wise, unsatisfying.

[Andromidius]

BatmanTurian wrote...

That would have been cool, but I guess this is evidence that Bioware is lazy, right?

100%

/sarcasm

Really if I ever wanted to pin the word 'lazy' on Bioware I'd not put it there.  And honestly, compared to other game developers, even with the problems with ME3 I could never call them lazy.  Misguided and too focused on 'wider demographics', perhaps.  But never lazy.

[BatmanTurian]

byne wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...
Liara is way too awesome for me to get hung up on something as trivial as appearance.

Plus, asari look the same no matter what race you play as in multiplayer. Though I realize that doesnt really prove anything.

*cough* Tali has more personality and better hips *cough*

Tali is my second favorite LI, and I'd totally romance her if they hadnt chickened out and removed the Tali/FemShep romance from ME2 at the last minute, but even so, I cant completely get over the fact that Tali seems more like a younger sister than a romantic interest.

So you're saying Tali is adorkably moe now?

[BatmanTurian]

Andromidius wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

That would have been cool, but I guess this is evidence that Bioware is lazy, right?

100%

/sarcasm

Really if I ever wanted to pin the word 'lazy' on Bioware I'd not put it there.  And honestly, compared to other game developers, even with the problems with ME3 I could never call them lazy.  Misguided and too focused on 'wider demographics', perhaps.  But never lazy.

Yep. I was joking, by the way.