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BatmanTurian wrote...

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BatmanTurian wrote...

if they have no Eezo core, then they can't reduce their mass and hover.


Lack of an Eezo Core would likely cause the ship to be torn apart during entry to the planet's atmosphere as well.  That's even assuming it could survive slowing from FTL speeds without the Core too.

But then Sci-Fi is rarely consistant with itself.  Star Trek is dreadful for this, especially when they lose Initial Dampners - they merely jiggle about a bit instead of being reduced to a bloody mess on the walls.  So I think I can forgive that.  Though probably not in combination with all the other problems presented.

*yawn*  Tired.


And that's why I don't watch Star Trek anymore.

I mean besides the implausible panspermia human headmask aliens.

Asari make me cringe, which is why I still choose to believe they mind control to make their faces look like the female of the species looking at them.

Humanoid aliens, from a logical standpoint, aren't actually as far off as scientists would have us believe. Opposable thumbs and a physique that allows for dexterity should be at least minimum requirements, meaning that without the Protheans, the Hanar would still be jellyfish floating in the oceans. Personally, I find aliens like many in Star Wars (ex. Selinians) to be more implausible than the human headmask ones. Granted, it is also highly unlikely that the heads would be that similar to humans, so those are still almost as implausible.


the simularity to humans in the face is my pet peeve. Otherwise, bipedal or centauri physiques are acceptable unless there is some other radically different physiology we've just never imagined possible.

i could actually probably find a quote by stephen hawking on how alien life on another planet similar to earth would bear more similarities to humans than we imagine.
think, the traits that weve aquired through evolution (multiple digits, bipedal, flexible tounges) would most likely also be dominant on another species if the situations are similar enough. those traits brought us to the top of the food chain, so theres a good chance that the same traits would be utilized by the evolution of a different species to achieve the same results

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byne wrote...

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Liara is way too awesome for me to get hung up on something as trivial as appearance. ;)

Plus, asari look the same no matter what race you play as in multiplayer. Though I realize that doesnt really prove anything.


*cough* Tali has more personality and better hips *cough*

B)



Tali is my second favorite LI, and I'd totally romance her if they hadnt chickened out and removed the Tali/FemShep romance from ME2 at the last minute, but even so, I cant completely get over the fact that Tali seems more like a younger sister than a romantic interest.


So you're saying Tali is adorkably moe now? =]


Now?

When wasnt she?

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byne wrote...
Liara is way too awesome for me to get hung up on something as trivial as appearance. ;)

Plus, asari look the same no matter what race you play as in multiplayer. Though I realize that doesnt really prove anything.


*cough* Tali has more personality and better hips *cough*

B)

But yeah, its a very outrageous concept honestly.  Though I could also imagine the MP team's faces if they were told they had to remodel Asari for each race's perspective.  They would not be pleased (they'd essentially need to design 8 brand new races?)!




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byne wrote...

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People always use this scene as evidence for that, but to me, it seems like each species is just focusing on the part of the asari most attractive to them, not like the asari is using some kind of diabolical mind control ray beam.


I think if they did alter their appearence for other races, they'd look the same for all of them.

Course, there's nothing to suggest this is actually the case.  Just an inkling, and the vibes I get when I see their 'ears' and neck.

Its why I'd never bring myself to romance Liara.  Weird reason, I know.  But flaps instead of ears just creep me out.


Liara is way too awesome for me to get hung up on something as trivial as appearance. ;)

Plus, asari look the same no matter what race you play as in multiplayer. Though I realize that doesnt really prove anything.


Liara is way too awesome, isn't she...maybe we should have a Liara as LI Group. Posted Image

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My First upload to Youtube so forgive any errors, and first video to boot.

It's the TIM conversation sound originaly and then speed up 2x

www.youtube.com/watch


Awesome! thanks :)

I wonder what else might have been slown down in the after-shep-got-hit-by-harbis-laser sequence

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Yep. I was joking, by the way.


+1

I knows.  My current typing seems to be very terse right now though, possibly due to tiredness.  And somehow I've convinced myself I'm going to watch all of Jesse Cox's livestream - and its got another 7 hours to go.

Whhhhhhhhhhhhy?

But yeah, back to that point.  Bioware have blantantly not been lazy at all with the attention to detail they've put into the game.  The fact its so confusing at the end, but has so many things pointing to the same conclusion just tells me how hard they must have worked to put all that in place to be discovered.  Or at least done in a way to get people to think about it and speculate - even if there's no actual answer!

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byne wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

byne wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...
Liara is way too awesome for me to get hung up on something as trivial as appearance. ;)

Plus, asari look the same no matter what race you play as in multiplayer. Though I realize that doesnt really prove anything.


*cough* Tali has more personality and better hips *cough*

B)



Tali is my second favorite LI, and I'd totally romance her if they hadnt chickened out and removed the Tali/FemShep romance from ME2 at the last minute, but even so, I cant completely get over the fact that Tali seems more like a younger sister than a romantic interest.


So you're saying Tali is adorkably moe now? =]


Now?

When wasnt she?


Eh I never saw her that way. Adorkable maybe, but not moe. Hell, Liara is more moe until she goes all shadow broker-obsessed.

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Andromidius wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Yep. I was joking, by the way.


+1

I knows.  My current typing seems to be very terse right now though, possibly due to tiredness.  And somehow I've convinced myself I'm going to watch all of Jesse Cox's livestream - and its got another 7 hours to go.

Whhhhhhhhhhhhy?

But yeah, back to that point.  Bioware have blantantly not been lazy at all with the attention to detail they've put into the game.  The fact its so confusing at the end, but has so many things pointing to the same conclusion just tells me how hard they must have worked to put all that in place to be discovered.  Or at least done in a way to get people to think about it and speculate - even if there's no actual answer!


There's either no answer, or the ending is a blend of both interpretations.

Both of which make no sense.

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D.Sharrah wrote...

byne wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...

People always use this scene as evidence for that, but to me, it seems like each species is just focusing on the part of the asari most attractive to them, not like the asari is using some kind of diabolical mind control ray beam.


I think if they did alter their appearence for other races, they'd look the same for all of them.

Course, there's nothing to suggest this is actually the case.  Just an inkling, and the vibes I get when I see their 'ears' and neck.

Its why I'd never bring myself to romance Liara.  Weird reason, I know.  But flaps instead of ears just creep me out.


Liara is way too awesome for me to get hung up on something as trivial as appearance. ;)

Plus, asari look the same no matter what race you play as in multiplayer. Though I realize that doesnt really prove anything.


Liara is way too awesome, isn't she...maybe we should have a Liara as LI Group. Posted Image


Since I think it could be safe to say that most people here have multiple Sheps and playthroughs over the three games, my we could add Primary to the Group name. Because I have 4 Sheps and 3 LIs, but I consider Liara to be my primary. Well, that's if that suggestion is serious.

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byne wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...
Liara is way too awesome for me to get hung up on something as trivial as appearance. ;)

Plus, asari look the same no matter what race you play as in multiplayer. Though I realize that doesnt really prove anything.


*cough* Tali has more personality and better hips *cough*

B)



Tali is my second favorite LI, and I'd totally romance her if they hadnt chickened out and removed the Tali/FemShep romance from ME2 at the last minute, but even so, I cant completely get over the fact that Tali seems more like a younger sister than a romantic interest.


That's how I felt too!

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Either.Ardrey wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

byne wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...

People always use this scene as evidence for that, but to me, it seems like each species is just focusing on the part of the asari most attractive to them, not like the asari is using some kind of diabolical mind control ray beam.


I think if they did alter their appearence for other races, they'd look the same for all of them.

Course, there's nothing to suggest this is actually the case.  Just an inkling, and the vibes I get when I see their 'ears' and neck.

Its why I'd never bring myself to romance Liara.  Weird reason, I know.  But flaps instead of ears just creep me out.


Liara is way too awesome for me to get hung up on something as trivial as appearance. ;)

Plus, asari look the same no matter what race you play as in multiplayer. Though I realize that doesnt really prove anything.


Liara is way too awesome, isn't she...maybe we should have a Liara as LI Group. Posted Image


Since I think it could be safe to say that most people here have multiple Sheps and playthroughs over the three games, my we could add Primary to the Group name. Because I have 4 Sheps and 3 LIs, but I consider Liara to be my primary. Well, that's if that suggestion is serious.


The writers have made it fairly obvious, subconsiously or not, that Liara is supposed to be the canon LI. Either that or the VS. But it seems more like Liara.

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lex0r11 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...
Liara is way too awesome for me to get hung up on something as trivial as appearance. ;)

Plus, asari look the same no matter what race you play as in multiplayer. Though I realize that doesnt really prove anything.


*cough* Tali has more personality and better hips *cough*

B)

But yeah, its a very outrageous concept honestly.  Though I could also imagine the MP team's faces if they were told they had to remodel Asari for each race's perspective.  They would not be pleased (they'd essentially need to design 8 brand new races?)!




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And that is completely cool with me...in fact that "encounter" was one of my favorite crew interactions...

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D.Sharrah wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...
Liara is way too awesome for me to get hung up on something as trivial as appearance. ;)

Plus, asari look the same no matter what race you play as in multiplayer. Though I realize that doesnt really prove anything.


*cough* Tali has more personality and better hips *cough*

B)

But yeah, its a very outrageous concept honestly.  Though I could also imagine the MP team's faces if they were told they had to remodel Asari for each race's perspective.  They would not be pleased (they'd essentially need to design 8 brand new races?)!

*snip*


And that is completely cool with me...in fact that "encounter" was one of my favorite crew interactions...


That scene is epically funny.

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lolwut

I was bored, so I figured I'd see if Akinator could guess the godchild.

The last question it asked was 'Is your character Republican minded?' and I said probably, then he was all 'I guess the Catalyst!'

:?

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Legion of 1337 wrote...

Oh come on now - if no one argueed with you you'd all jsut sit here going 

"I think this proves IT"
"I agree"
"I agree too!"
"OMG we're so smart"
"We're all right"
"I love IT" 
"I love IT too"

etc.

A bunch of like-mided people sitting around telling each other they're right isn't interesting conversation.


Oh! You mean exactly like... every Control and Synthesis circlejerk thread ever made.

Huh.

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D.Sharrah wrote...
--snip Tali/Garrus motivator--
And that is completely cool with me...in fact that "encounter" was one of my favorite crew interactions...

Ditto. My other favorite was

Edi - "Dalatrass Linron"

Joker - "Eww."

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BatmanTurian wrote...

That scene is epically funny.


www.youtube.com/watch


Tali > Everyone Else

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Either.Ardrey wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

byne wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...

People always use this scene as evidence for that, but to me, it seems like each species is just focusing on the part of the asari most attractive to them, not like the asari is using some kind of diabolical mind control ray beam.


I think if they did alter their appearence for other races, they'd look the same for all of them.

Course, there's nothing to suggest this is actually the case.  Just an inkling, and the vibes I get when I see their 'ears' and neck.

Its why I'd never bring myself to romance Liara.  Weird reason, I know.  But flaps instead of ears just creep me out.


Liara is way too awesome for me to get hung up on something as trivial as appearance. ;)

Plus, asari look the same no matter what race you play as in multiplayer. Though I realize that doesnt really prove anything.


Liara is way too awesome, isn't she...maybe we should have a Liara as LI Group. Posted Image


Since I think it could be safe to say that most people here have multiple Sheps and playthroughs over the three games, my we could add Primary to the Group name. Because I have 4 Sheps and 3 LIs, but I consider Liara to be my primary. Well, that's if that suggestion is serious.


Partly serious...and your suggestion is a great one.  Wouldn't want to start a flame war - I think the LI choice is all about personal preference...for me I can't get away from making that choice Liara - it's the one that plays out best for me...I would join the group, but not sure what purpose it would serve...

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lolwut

I was bored, so I figured I'd see if Akinator could guess the godchild.

The last question it asked was 'Is your character Republican minded?' and I said probably, then he was all 'I guess the Catalyst!'

:?

wtf lol

How is the Catalyst a conservative? oh, right, he wants the status quo. My bad.

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byne wrote...

lolwut

I was bored, so I figured I'd see if Akinator could guess the godchild.

The last question it asked was 'Is your character Republican minded?' and I said probably, then he was all 'I guess the Catalyst!'

:?


I just did it.  And yep, it got it with me too.  Going to try other characters too!

Edit: Wow...  It just guessed Harbinger as well!  Though as the Collector General and not as a Reaper.

Modifié par Andromidius, 08 juillet 2012 - 12:33 .


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BatmanTurian wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...
Liara is way too awesome for me to get hung up on something as trivial as appearance. ;)

Plus, asari look the same no matter what race you play as in multiplayer. Though I realize that doesnt really prove anything.


*cough* Tali has more personality and better hips *cough*

B)

But yeah, its a very outrageous concept honestly.  Though I could also imagine the MP team's faces if they were told they had to remodel Asari for each race's perspective.  They would not be pleased (they'd essentially need to design 8 brand new races?)!

*snip*


And that is completely cool with me...in fact that "encounter" was one of my favorite crew interactions...


That scene is epically funny.


"...I'm just using you..."  "...you are so mean, and I'm ok with that..."

ROFL!!!

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byne wrote...

lolwut

I was bored, so I figured I'd see if Akinator could guess the godchild.

The last question it asked was 'Is your character Republican minded?' and I said probably, then he was all 'I guess the Catalyst!'

:?


I kept the guy going for a while.

My last question was "Was your character created by Bioware?"

I kept answering "Not sure" "Probably" and "yes" to the "Is your character magic" and "Is he a god or godess" questions.

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Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...

lolwut

I was bored, so I figured I'd see if Akinator could guess the godchild.

The last question it asked was 'Is your character Republican minded?' and I said probably, then he was all 'I guess the Catalyst!'

:?


I just did it.  And yep, it got it with me too.  Going to try other characters too!


Akinator is a fun time-killer when you dont have anything else to do. :D

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BatmanTurian wrote...

That scene is epically funny.


www.youtube.com/watch


Tali > Everyone Else


oh man, I love Legion and Friends.

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BatmanTurian wrote...
The writers have made it fairly obvious, subconsiously or not, that Liara is supposed to be the canon LI. Either that or the VS. But it seems more like Liara.


Of course, this is why Ashley is on the cover of ME1 and the cinematic "distress call" trailer, and in the ME3 cinematic trailer.



PS: I romanced her, but it has nothing to do with the point :innocent: