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[BatmanTurian]

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

byne wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

Well, now I feel like the only batarian.

Holy crap, for some reason I've only now noticed your picture has two batarians in it.

...

Well now I feel like the only batarians?

lol, sorry. I've wanted to set a custom portrait for awhile, just never got around to it until today. If it helps, you can still consider me a brotarian, because theyre still some of my favorite classes to play in MP. 

This is going to take a while to get used to, I mean it's just me and other me now!

I'll take that consolation though, I like playing Batarians myself.:happy:

I'd join you, but I have Turian in my name and it wouldn't be right. I'd look like some weird, ironic, dorky hipster.

[Legion of 1337]

niravital wrote...

Hey legion, what videos have you seen?
maybe we can point you to some more great stuff if you'd like

I looked at the videos linked to in this thread. Everything from the original thread is outdated.

Everything else I got from reading.

I know what you're trying to do, but, sorry, you're not going to convert me;)

[Nightingale]

byne wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 New profile photo, yay!  


  --------------->  

Hopefully it wont take you guys long to get used to it, cuz I'm already attached to it. 

Glad you said something, I don't know that I would've recognized you
New one is from Legion and friends, right?

Yep, from this scene, specifically. :happy:

... and then Garrus turned into a squash.
The End.

I'm really late for this, but that just reminded me of YouTube's attempt at CC that ended up being...
25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6m15wL3iQ1rzr632o1_500.png

Now I feel like rereading the entire Party Temple thread.

Haha nice, I forgot about that.

[byne]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

byne wrote...

Tis why the only news I trust at all is The Young Turks.

Also because I'm one of those no good dirty liberals I always hear about.

And even with them I dont just blindly believe what they tell me.

And I'm one of those "Racist, old-minded, *fill in the blank here*" Consitutional Conservatives that I always hear about.

Not the place Byne. Not the place.

Who says such horrible things? You can be conservative without being racist!

But yeah, you're right, not the place.

No more politics!

[Nightingale]

BatmanTurian wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

byne wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

Well, now I feel like the only batarian.

Holy crap, for some reason I've only now noticed your picture has two batarians in it.

...

Well now I feel like the only batarians?

lol, sorry. I've wanted to set a custom portrait for awhile, just never got around to it until today. If it helps, you can still consider me a brotarian, because theyre still some of my favorite classes to play in MP. 

This is going to take a while to get used to, I mean it's just me and other me now!

I'll take that consolation though, I like playing Batarians myself.:happy:

I'd join you, but I have Turian in my name and it wouldn't be right. I'd look like some weird, ironic, dorky hipster.

I don't know I like what you're implying right now...

[D.Sharrah]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

This version of the trailer is quite good:



Out of curiousity, what part of the trailer are you most interested in seeing as "gameplay"?

The part where Shepard actually helps take back Earth, without being vaporized.

Just look at the trailer: That's like the day after the Reapers: Dreadnoughts and Cruisers are inside the atmosphere without getting torn apart, Makos are running over dragon's teeth, etc. Relatively speaking, the Alliance is tearing the Reaper troops apart.

Imagine the impact if that was the ending, instead of what we got: the Normandy leading fighter/bombers overhead, carpet bombs breaking debris apart, getting to see famous sites on Earth being taken back from the Reapers- it's an expansion in and of itself.

And I still insist that we haven't been shown all of that cinematic.

I get that...but do you want to see that it cinematics or actual gameplay...I'm just not sure if they try to pull that off in actual gameplay how that would work in engine.  I'm all for seeing our war assets in action, especially in taking back earth (one of my disappointments with the EC, was that we did not see any of this),  But I don't want ME to turn into a RTS either...

[byne]

DrTsoni wrote...

byne wrote...

Now I feel like rereading the entire Party Temple thread.

Haha nice, I forgot about that.

Oh god this still makes me lol pretty hard:

[BatmanTurian]

Legion of 1337 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Legion of 1337 wrote...
This comes down to interpretation of how compelling each piece of evidence is to you. For me (and, you must remember, most of us) most of the evidence for IT is too much of an assumption to make it more believable than taking it literally. In the end, since IT is never proven explicity, we must either make assumptions (IT) or take it at face value (literalism).

That's ok, I'm sure BW would be disappointed if everyone figured it out. 

Where you see assumptions, we see logical, justified conclusions and reasonable speculations backed up by lore and precedent. 

I like to compare it to JFK. As compelling and convincing the theories may be, this is all we can say for certain:

Lee Harvey Oswald killed John F. Kennedy. That's it. That's all we can state as fact.

I take a similar stance with this ending.

The problem with your comparison is that the whole JFK thing is something that actually happened. Things that happen in real life do not have meaning or metaphors attached to them.

Fiction does have meanings and metaphors and they are often hidden and meant to be dug out of the work and contemplated. Fiction is not reality and reality is not fiction. You cannot compare the two because fiction has meaning and symbols attached to the events whereas reality is just random variables of chance and happenstance " full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. "

[HellishFiend]

Legion of 1337 wrote...

I like to compare it to JFK. As compelling and convincing the theories may be, this is all we can say for certain:

Lee Harvey Oswald killed John F. Kennedy. That's it. That's all we can state as fact.

I take a similar stance with this ending.

And I'll say it's completely unreasonable to compare a real life murder mystery to analyzing a literary work. 

Would you really walk into a classroom with a room full of people discussing their interpretations of themes in profound literary works, stand in front of the room, and start drawing comparisons between their activities and a high profile murder case?  I wouldn't.

[Nightingale]

byne wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

byne wrote...

Now I feel like rereading the entire Party Temple thread.

Haha nice, I forgot about that.

Oh god this still makes me lol pretty hard:

Lol that's it, Youtube's CC officially wins the internet.

[Auralius Carolus]

byne wrote...

Who says such horrible things? You can be conservative without being racist!

But yeah, you're right, not the place.

No more politics!

A lot of people and worse, but back to the subject:

I've been doing a little bit of "geneology"

I'm finding IT theory dating back to at least March 12. I didn't really get involved until April, but thinking that it had already developed before a week was up... that's deep.

Modifié par Auralius Carolus, 08 juillet 2012 - 02:49 .

[BatmanTurian]

DrTsoni wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

byne wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

Well, now I feel like the only batarian.

Holy crap, for some reason I've only now noticed your picture has two batarians in it.

...

Well now I feel like the only batarians?

lol, sorry. I've wanted to set a custom portrait for awhile, just never got around to it until today. If it helps, you can still consider me a brotarian, because theyre still some of my favorite classes to play in MP. 

This is going to take a while to get used to, I mean it's just me and other me now!

I'll take that consolation though, I like playing Batarians myself.:happy:

I'd join you, but I have Turian in my name and it wouldn't be right. I'd look like some weird, ironic, dorky hipster.

I don't know I like what you're implying right now...

I'm implying it would be weird and "ironic" to have a Batarian as my avatar while my name is BatmanTurian.

oh wait, all the letters for Batarian are in my name. That's actually messed up.

[Auralius Carolus]

D.Sharrah wrote...


I get that...but do you want to see that it cinematics or actual gameplay...I'm just not sure if they try to pull that off in actual gameplay how that would work in engine.  I'm all for seeing our war assets in action, especially in taking back earth (one of my disappointments with the EC, was that we did not see any of this),  But I don't want ME to turn into a RTS either...

Well, I can speculate that there is more to that Cinematic, but I'd like to see it in gameplay. The engine should be able to handle in a type campaign format as any other, but with more friendly BOTs and scripting.

[FreddyCast]

Hey guys, watsup? Anything new?
I'm uploading the first part to my two parts "Indoctrination Theory- ME3 Extended Cut DLC Analysis" series on youtube.
It should be up in about an hour. That's if nothing goes wrong. I've already had problems trying to upload it.
The second part should be up tomorrow, I hope.
I wanted it to be one entire video, but with the tools I have now, my computer just won't let me.
Anyways, I'll post the link soon, once it's uploaded
Tell me what you guys think.
And please be nice, it's my first time doing an analysis on a game, so I'm not a pro at it.
Peace

[niravital]

 Okey so ever since I posted it some pages ago I wanted to do this 

[Legion of 1337]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Legion of 1337 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Legion of 1337 wrote...
This comes down to interpretation of how compelling each piece of evidence is to you. For me (and, you must remember, most of us) most of the evidence for IT is too much of an assumption to make it more believable than taking it literally. In the end, since IT is never proven explicity, we must either make assumptions (IT) or take it at face value (literalism).

That's ok, I'm sure BW would be disappointed if everyone figured it out. 

Where you see assumptions, we see logical, justified conclusions and reasonable speculations backed up by lore and precedent. 

I like to compare it to JFK. As compelling and convincing the theories may be, this is all we can say for certain:

Lee Harvey Oswald killed John F. Kennedy. That's it. That's all we can state as fact.

I take a similar stance with this ending.

The problem with your comparison is that the whole JFK thing is something that actually happened. Things that happen in real life do not have meaning or metaphors attached to them.

Fiction does have meanings and metaphors and they are often hidden and meant to be dug out of the work and contemplated. Fiction is not reality and reality is not fiction. You cannot compare the two because fiction has meaning and symbols attached to the events whereas reality is just random variables of chance and happenstance " full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. "

I thought about that. In truth, there is no way for me to completely refute your theory because everything is opinion.

However, ME has never been known for hidden meanings in the past. Ideas are clearly presented - what makes them significant are the moral implications. Hell, BW couldn't even plan out the whole story for the series before hand - they scrapped the original plot for ME3 even though they had already hinted at it in ME2. So I'm not convinced they had been planning this out for 3 games, and then never come out and present it as fact. It doesn't fit the "up front" nature of the rest of the game.

Obviously, however, it convinces you, and I'm never going to convince you otherwise, even if I tried.

[Nightingale]

BatmanTurian wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

byne wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

Well, now I feel like the only batarian.

Holy crap, for some reason I've only now noticed your picture has two batarians in it.

...

Well now I feel like the only batarians?

lol, sorry. I've wanted to set a custom portrait for awhile, just never got around to it until today. If it helps, you can still consider me a brotarian, because theyre still some of my favorite classes to play in MP. 

This is going to take a while to get used to, I mean it's just me and other me now!

I'll take that consolation though, I like playing Batarians myself.:happy:

I'd join you, but I have Turian in my name and it wouldn't be right. I'd look like some weird, ironic, dorky hipster.

I don't know I like what you're implying right now...

I'm implying it would be weird and "ironic" to have a Batarian as my avatar while my name is BatmanTurian.

oh wait, all the letters for Batarian are in my name. That's actually messed up.

See? That's an excuse to change your avatar!
I just meant my name with my avatar...Banshee mentioned I think last week how weird it is

[BatmanTurian]

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, watsup? Anything new?
I'm uploading the first part to my two parts "Indoctrination Theory- ME3 Extended Cut DLC Analysis" series on youtube.
It should be up in about an hour. That's if nothing goes wrong. I've already had problems trying to upload it.
The second part should be up tomorrow, I hope.
I wanted it to be one entire video, but with the tools I have now, my computer just won't let me.
Anyways, I'll post the link soon, once it's uploaded
Tell me what you guys think.
And please be nice, it's my first time doing an analysis on a game, so I'm not a pro at it.
Peace

We'll try to be nice. At least, I will anyway.

[ThisOneIsPunny]

BatmanTurian wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...



I'd join you, but I have Turian in my name and it wouldn't be right. I'd look like some weird, ironic, dorky hipster.

I don't know I like what you're implying right now...

I'm implying it would be weird and "ironic" to have a Batarian as my avatar while my name is BatmanTurian.

oh wait, all the letters for Batarian are in my name. That's actually messed up.

I think I like Doc's train of thought more.. 

[niravital]

Legion of 1337 wrote...
I thought about that. In truth, there is no way for me to completely refute your theory because everything is opinion.

However, ME has never been known for hidden meanings in the past. Ideas are clearly presented - what makes them significant are the moral implications. Hell, BW couldn't even plan out the whole story for the series before hand - they scrapped the original plot for ME3 even though they had already hinted at it in ME2. So I'm not convinced they had been planning this out for 3 games, and then never come out and present it as fact. It doesn't fit the "up front" nature of the rest of the game.

Obviously, however, it convinces you, and I'm never going to convince you otherwise, even if I tried.

No, not everything about it, not all quests, not how it all ties togather, not all dialogues and characters.

But, you don't get greenlit for a trilogy if you don't have your main themes/concepts/ideas throughout the three games.
Just to write the first game you'll have to know where you want it to go.

[Auralius Carolus]

niravital wrote...

 Okey so ever since I posted it some pages ago I wanted to do this 

Reaper Destroyer Uses Thanix Canon on Space Brat! Is SUPER Effective! Earns Extra Cookie.

[BatmanTurian]

Legion of 1337 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Legion of 1337 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Legion of 1337 wrote...
This comes down to interpretation of how compelling each piece of evidence is to you. For me (and, you must remember, most of us) most of the evidence for IT is too much of an assumption to make it more believable than taking it literally. In the end, since IT is never proven explicity, we must either make assumptions (IT) or take it at face value (literalism).

That's ok, I'm sure BW would be disappointed if everyone figured it out. 

Where you see assumptions, we see logical, justified conclusions and reasonable speculations backed up by lore and precedent. 

I like to compare it to JFK. As compelling and convincing the theories may be, this is all we can say for certain:

Lee Harvey Oswald killed John F. Kennedy. That's it. That's all we can state as fact.

I take a similar stance with this ending.

The problem with your comparison is that the whole JFK thing is something that actually happened. Things that happen in real life do not have meaning or metaphors attached to them.

Fiction does have meanings and metaphors and they are often hidden and meant to be dug out of the work and contemplated. Fiction is not reality and reality is not fiction. You cannot compare the two because fiction has meaning and symbols attached to the events whereas reality is just random variables of chance and happenstance " full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. "

I thought about that. In truth, there is no way for me to completely refute your theory because everything is opinion.

However, ME has never been known for hidden meanings in the past. Ideas are clearly presented - what makes them significant are the moral implications. Hell, BW couldn't even plan out the whole story for the series before hand - they scrapped the original plot for ME3 even though they had already hinted at it in ME2. So I'm not convinced they had been planning this out for 3 games, and then never come out and present it as fact. It doesn't fit the "up front" nature of the rest of the game.

Obviously, however, it convinces you, and I'm never going to convince you otherwise, even if I tried.

The writers are subtle enough that the player has to add things said up to realize that the PTSD Asari killed Joker's sister, but not subtle enough to pull off an Inception ending? Either way, we're both looking at it through different lenses and that is our fundamental difference. I look at it like a visual novel that I'm playing. You look at it like a Call of Duty game where everything is upfront and obvious. It is not always so in the Mass Effect universe or games.

[FreddyCast]

BatmanTurian wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, watsup? Anything new?
I'm uploading the first part to my two parts "Indoctrination Theory- ME3 Extended Cut DLC Analysis" series on youtube.
It should be up in about an hour. That's if nothing goes wrong. I've already had problems trying to upload it.
The second part should be up tomorrow, I hope.
I wanted it to be one entire video, but with the tools I have now, my computer just won't let me.
Anyways, I'll post the link soon, once it's uploaded
Tell me what you guys think.
And please be nice, it's my first time doing an analysis on a game, so I'm not a pro at it.
Peace

We'll try to be nice. At least, I will anyway.

Thanks.
While you guys are waiting, check out my channel. I have other cool videos you can watch.
http://www.youtube.c...za?feature=mhee

[HellishFiend]

Legion of 1337 wrote...

I thought about that. In truth, there is no way for me to completely refute your theory because everything is opinion.

However, ME has never been known for hidden meanings in the past. Ideas are clearly presented - what makes them significant are the moral implications. Hell, BW couldn't even plan out the whole story for the series before hand - they scrapped the original plot for ME3 even though they had already hinted at it in ME2. So I'm not convinced they had been planning this out for 3 games, and then never come out and present it as fact. It doesn't fit the "up front" nature of the rest of the game.

Obviously, however, it convinces you, and I'm never going to convince you otherwise, even if I tried.

Of course you're not going to convince us, because you are not making a strong case. Never known for hidden meanings? What on Earth is your definition of a hidden meaning? Because it's obviously not the same as mine, or Bioware's. And yes, things are clearly presented, things about something called Indoctination. You know what else is clearly presented? Themes that completely fly in the face of all the bull**** that Starbinger tries to feed you in the ending. 

I'm sorry, I dont mean this in a rude way, but I'm convinced that you've simply forgetten the themes of the ME trilogy. I'd advise watching the "Choose Wisely" video linked in my sig, with the annotations on, because it gives a great overview of the themes in the form of an enjoyable music video. 

The fact of the matter is, if you know and understand the themes of the ME trilogy, you basically can't believe in a literal interpretation. 

[Priss Blackburne]

Legion of 1337 wrote...

I thought about that. In truth, there is no way for me to completely refute your theory because everything is opinion.

However, ME has never been known for hidden meanings in the past. Ideas are clearly presented - what makes them significant are the moral implications. Hell, BW couldn't even plan out the whole story for the series before hand - they scrapped the original plot for ME3 even though they had already hinted at it in ME2. So I'm not convinced they had been planning this out for 3 games, and then never come out and present it as fact. It doesn't fit the "up front" nature of the rest of the game.

Obviously, however, it convinces you, and I'm never going to convince you otherwise, even if I tried.

if your talking about the leaked script. It was mostly only altered in small ways. Most of it remained unchanged as far as I know. And Drew said that the dark matter was never part of the script. So I have heard.

In the final hours documentary they stated about a part where the reapers gain Full control over shepard. But found it problematic to incorporate with dialogue so that sequence was scrapped. Key word is full control, if they never meant the reapers to have some control over shepard they would have said just "gained control". and Sequence stating they scrapped an event  but not the idea.

I thought at first that documentry damned the IT but it added a big convincer to me.

Modifié par Priss Blackburne, 08 juillet 2012 - 03:04 .