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#41451
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Priss Blackburne wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

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Legion of 1337 wrote...

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Legion of 1337 wrote...

This really is like a giant information-collecting machine. Every smidgen of the game analyzed, every conversation, background noise, out of place comment, for every game, every bit of ME related material. Then it all gets collected, and a bazillion people analyze it and come to consensus about what it means for the theory.

I don't believe a word of it but your dedication is amazing.

We are Geth. We have achieved consensus.

Precisely why I admire Geth.


But you've infiltrated the IT thread.  I didn't think that Geth could infiltrate... :?

They don't INTENTIONALLY infiltrate.Posted Image


ahh yep quoted it wrong :pinched:

Oh, darn it was "Geth", not "they"Posted Image
Oh wellPosted Image

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hey guys, i don't know if any of you have seen this but I was looking for ME images and I found this curious image.

It seems someone put Miranda in the place of the Catalyst, gave her its animation and " glow ", and it shows the face the Catalyst makes after Shep chooses Control. Again, pardon me if you guys have seen this already.

Posted Image

EDIT: I could be wrong. Not sure.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 08 juillet 2012 - 04:44 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Legion of 1337 wrote...

This really is like a giant information-collecting machine. Every smidgen of the game analyzed, every conversation, background noise, out of place comment, for every game, every bit of ME related material. Then it all gets collected, and a bazillion people analyze it and come to consensus about what it means for the theory.

I don't believe a word of it but your dedication is amazing.

We are Geth. We have achieved consensus. As our numbers increase, our intelligence is increased exponentially.

We disagree with the Heretics. Geth believe 1 is less than 2. Heretics believe 2 is less than 3.

Fixed. Also, <3





Geth it?


I knew I was remembering it wrong. It's late, close to 1 am here. Memory is slipping. Oh, well.

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BatmanTurian wrote...

hey guys, i don't know if any of you have seen this but I was looking for ME images and I found this curious image.

It seems someone put Miranda in the place of the Catalyst, gave her its animation and " glow ", and it shows the face the Catalyst makes after Shep chooses Control. Again, pardon me if you guys have seen this already.

Posted Image

Holy crap I've not seen that before! Actually I was wondering why someone who could mod didn't do this sooner. That confirms his smirk though. Why would he smirk if he's being replaced?Posted Image
Also. they should do one with someone totally random. Like Wrex :D

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BatmanTurian wrote...

hey guys, i don't know if any of you have seen this but I was looking for ME images and I found this curious image.

It seems someone put Miranda in the place of the Catalyst, gave her its animation and " glow ", and it shows the face the Catalyst makes after Shep chooses Control. Again, pardon me if you guys have seen this already.

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i knew that Catalyst was smileing, and WT*. How did they do that, and where did you find this?

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BatmanTurian wrote...

hey guys, i don't know if any of you have seen this but I was looking for ME images and I found this curious image.

It seems someone put Miranda in the place of the Catalyst, gave her its animation and " glow ", and it shows the face the Catalyst makes after Shep chooses Control. Again, pardon me if you guys have seen this already.

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What's it from? Just looks like she's using biotics to me.

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masster blaster wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

hey guys, i don't know if any of you have seen this but I was looking for ME images and I found this curious image.

It seems someone put Miranda in the place of the Catalyst, gave her its animation and " glow ", and it shows the face the Catalyst makes after Shep chooses Control. Again, pardon me if you guys have seen this already.

Posted Image


i knew that Catalyst was smileing, and WT*. How did they do that, and where did you find this?


I found it on a modding forum. no words accompanying the image but they were messing around with the game and I assume someone just decided to do this. It's almost at the bottom of the page.
http://s15.zetaboard...opic/7005211/2/

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masster blaster wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

hey guys, i don't know if any of you have seen this but I was looking for ME images and I found this curious image.

It seems someone put Miranda in the place of the Catalyst, gave her its animation and " glow ", and it shows the face the Catalyst makes after Shep chooses Control. Again, pardon me if you guys have seen this already.

Posted Image


i knew that Catalyst was smileing, and WT*. How did they do that, and where did you find this?

Just mod it and replace his character model with someone else's. When I figure out how to mod, I'm totally replacing him with my Shepard. Oh, the implications! Shepard seeing herself in the dream with the kid, only to see herself in the end instead of the kid. Holy crap I can't get over how awesomely weird it would be to have SHEPARD as the "catalyst"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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DrTsoni wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

hey guys, i don't know if any of you have seen this but I was looking for ME images and I found this curious image.

It seems someone put Miranda in the place of the Catalyst, gave her its animation and " glow ", and it shows the face the Catalyst makes after Shep chooses Control. Again, pardon me if you guys have seen this already.


What's it from? Just looks like she's using biotics to me.


As I said in the EDIT I could be wrong, but it looks like the same scene and the same camera angle and the same smug smirk we perceived.

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DrTsoni wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

hey guys, i don't know if any of you have seen this but I was looking for ME images and I found this curious image.

It seems someone put Miranda in the place of the Catalyst, gave her its animation and " glow ", and it shows the face the Catalyst makes after Shep chooses Control. Again, pardon me if you guys have seen this already.

*snip*


What's it from? Just looks like she's using biotics to me.

Actually I'm probably stupid Posted Image It does look like biotics and I even thought of that and dismissed it for some reason. Posted Image

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TSA_383 wrote...

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Looks like this got lost on the last page?

Lokanaiya wrote...

Legion, I've got some hard evidence if you're willing to check it out. It's a 5 minute video by Hellish regarding infrasound in the dreams. Not directly related to the ending, perhaps, but still good evidence for IT.



(We really should link this video more. It's pretty hard to call this interpretation or opinion. :P)

Also, I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but that "angelic" sound that's in the dreams and mentioned in the video? I just realized, that's also in London, at least from the FOB onwards, and maybe near the Hades cannon too, but I can't remember.


-The "angelic" sound appears in:

1-The dream sequences
2-When you get hit by Harby's laser
3-The Choice sequence

As for the infrasound thing, as the one who found that stuff originally (I think it's about page 770 or so of this thread if you want to see all that was said) I am personally still a bit skeptical - It's relatively convincing, yes, but some instances of it could be due to slip-ups in SFX processing.


It also appears in the FOB and last London part. And I suppose the infrasound could be in some instances, but in places that are already thought to be linked to Reaper indoctrination and, as far as I know, nowhere else? Seems a bit convenient.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

hey guys, i don't know if any of you have seen this but I was looking for ME images and I found this curious image.

It seems someone put Miranda in the place of the Catalyst, gave her its animation and " glow ", and it shows the face the Catalyst makes after Shep chooses Control. Again, pardon me if you guys have seen this already.

Posted Image


i knew that Catalyst was smileing, and WT*. How did they do that, and where did you find this?

Just mod it and replace his character model with someone else's. When I figure out how to mod, I'm totally replacing him with my Shepard. Oh, the implications! Shepard seeing herself in the dream with the kid, only to see herself in the end instead of the kid. Holy crap I can't get over how awesomely weird it would be to have SHEPARD as the "catalyst"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I've seen this before with Shep instead of Miranda... Can't remember where...

EDIT: Not exactly but similar...
http://social.biowar...6235/11#9260064 

Modifié par niravital, 08 juillet 2012 - 04:57 .


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AAAAAAHHHHHH, BOSH-TET
Part 2 of my video series got screwed, now I have to remake the video before I can upload it.
DAAARRRN IIIIIT.

#41464
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Lokanaiya wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

Looks like this got lost on the last page?

Lokanaiya wrote...

Legion, I've got some hard evidence if you're willing to check it out. It's a 5 minute video by Hellish regarding infrasound in the dreams. Not directly related to the ending, perhaps, but still good evidence for IT.



(We really should link this video more. It's pretty hard to call this interpretation or opinion. :P)

Also, I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but that "angelic" sound that's in the dreams and mentioned in the video? I just realized, that's also in London, at least from the FOB onwards, and maybe near the Hades cannon too, but I can't remember.


-The "angelic" sound appears in:

1-The dream sequences
2-When you get hit by Harby's laser
3-The Choice sequence

As for the infrasound thing, as the one who found that stuff originally (I think it's about page 770 or so of this thread if you want to see all that was said) I am personally still a bit skeptical - It's relatively convincing, yes, but some instances of it could be due to slip-ups in SFX processing.


It also appears in the FOB and last London part. And I suppose the infrasound could be in some instances, but in places that are already thought to be linked to Reaper indoctrination and, as far as I know, nowhere else? Seems a bit convenient.

Convenient is a good word. I've used it a lot lately while discussing ME3. Forget what right now though. Posted Image

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 08 juillet 2012 - 04:52 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

hey guys, i don't know if any of you have seen this but I was looking for ME images and I found this curious image.

It seems someone put Miranda in the place of the Catalyst, gave her its animation and " glow ", and it shows the face the Catalyst makes after Shep chooses Control. Again, pardon me if you guys have seen this already.

*snip*


What's it from? Just looks like she's using biotics to me.

Actually I'm probably stupid Posted Image It does look like biotics and I even thought of that and dismissed it for some reason. Posted Image


If I'm wrong, then I'm fine with that. it could be the biotics replacing the weird aura around StarKid. The purpose of this thread is to examine what we think is interesting evidence and refute or verify it. I'd rather be wrong and be refuted than to be wrong and give us bogus evidence that we accept.

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Actually I'm probably stupid Posted Image It does look like biotics and I even thought of that and dismissed it for some reason. Posted Image


I still think it looks like biotics but I said that before I saw he got it from a modding forum (and he pointed out the angle and all that) so...I don't know, maybe?
I'm still half-asleep so you should all probably just dismiss my opinion at this point -_-

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BatmanTurian wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

hey guys, i don't know if any of you have seen this but I was looking for ME images and I found this curious image.

It seems someone put Miranda in the place of the Catalyst, gave her its animation and " glow ", and it shows the face the Catalyst makes after Shep chooses Control. Again, pardon me if you guys have seen this already.

*snip*


What's it from? Just looks like she's using biotics to me.

Actually I'm probably stupid Posted Image It does look like biotics and I even thought of that and dismissed it for some reason. Posted Image


If I'm wrong, then I'm fine with that. it could be the biotics replacing the weird aura around StarKid. The purpose of this thread is to examine what we think is interesting evidence and refute or verify it. I'd rather be wrong and be refuted than to be wrong and give us bogus evidence that we accept.

Yes definitley. Cherry-picking and blindly accepting the evidence that you cherry-picked is not what we should do. It is however, what literalists seem to do...Posted Image

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Well, I'm off. See you all later.

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DrTsoni wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
Actually I'm probably stupid Posted Image It does look like biotics and I even thought of that and dismissed it for some reason. Posted Image


I still think it looks like biotics but I said that before I saw he got it from a modding forum (and he pointed out the angle and all that) so...I don't know, maybe?
I'm still half-asleep so you should all probably just dismiss my opinion at this point -_-

Garrus - Catch some shut eye. We both know you need a clear head to win a war. Oh and try not to have any dreams about Harbinger.

;)

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 08 juillet 2012 - 04:58 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

hey guys, i don't know if any of you have seen this but I was looking for ME images and I found this curious image.

It seems someone put Miranda in the place of the Catalyst, gave her its animation and " glow ", and it shows the face the Catalyst makes after Shep chooses Control. Again, pardon me if you guys have seen this already.

*snip*


What's it from? Just looks like she's using biotics to me.

Actually I'm probably stupid Posted Image It does look like biotics and I even thought of that and dismissed it for some reason. Posted Image


If I'm wrong, then I'm fine with that. it could be the biotics replacing the weird aura around StarKid. The purpose of this thread is to examine what we think is interesting evidence and refute or verify it. I'd rather be wrong and be refuted than to be wrong and give us bogus evidence that we accept.

Yes definitley. Cherry-picking and blindly accepting the evidence that you cherry-picked is not what we should do. It is however, what literalists seem to do...Posted Image

I just found it by accident and thought it was intriguing. Maybe we can get someone who can mod in here to replace the model in the game as in the picture and put up a video? Then it would be easier to accept, especially if you have Miranda talking with Starkid's voice.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 08 juillet 2012 - 04:58 .


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Dwailing wrote...

Well, I'm off. See you all later.

Good night! Don't let the reapers bite!

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Dwailing wrote...

Well, I'm off. See you all later.

night

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seems apparent that bioware is or was planning something uber clever with this game. infrasound, links to red herrings, inconsistencies abound in the last 20 minutes, everybody acting out of character, unexplained plot holes, my friggin' crosshairs wobbling in the last mission... there's gotta be more to this. building a consensus...

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BatmanTurian wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

hey guys, i don't know if any of you have seen this but I was looking for ME images and I found this curious image.

It seems someone put Miranda in the place of the Catalyst, gave her its animation and " glow ", and it shows the face the Catalyst makes after Shep chooses Control. Again, pardon me if you guys have seen this already.

*snip*


What's it from? Just looks like she's using biotics to me.

Actually I'm probably stupid Posted Image It does look like biotics and I even thought of that and dismissed it for some reason. Posted Image


If I'm wrong, then I'm fine with that. it could be the biotics replacing the weird aura around StarKid. The purpose of this thread is to examine what we think is interesting evidence and refute or verify it. I'd rather be wrong and be refuted than to be wrong and give us bogus evidence that we accept.

Yes definitley. Cherry-picking and blindly accepting the evidence that you cherry-picked is not what we should do. It is however, what literalists seem to do...Posted Image

I just found it by accident and thought it was intriguing. Maybe we can get someone who can mod in here to replace the model in the game as in the picture and put up a video? Then it would be easier to accept, especially if you have Miranda talking with Starkid's voice.

I need to look into how to mod it as I have little experience. Sounds like fun though and I would mod that myself.

Edit: I'm on top again huh? Now this is just getting repetitive.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 08 juillet 2012 - 05:00 .


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comrade gando wrote...

seems apparent that bioware is or was planning something uber clever with this game. infrasound, links to red herrings, inconsistencies abound in the last 20 minutes, everybody acting out of character, unexplained plot holes, my friggin' crosshairs wobbling in the last mission... there's gotta be more to this. building a consensus...


Oh don't worry. It's probably just laziness and bad writing. The Bioware writers are terrible afterall. They're just awful hacks. They should be writing toaster instructions /sarcasm :P