Besides of me and Hellish, I think Salient Archer also changed his...Riot86 wrote...
Really? That's good to know, thanks for the infoestebanus wrote...
It is stated in Mass Effect: retribution that the illusive man's base traveled between different systems in order to minimize detection, so your idea is till valid!Riot86 wrote...
*snip*
(BTW: Do you guys have new profile pictures? Kinda confussing at first to see so many familar names with unfamiliar faces right beside them)
Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!
#41801
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:09
#41802
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:09
TJBartlemus wrote...
Riot86 wrote...
Really? That's good to know, thanks for the info
(BTW: Do you guys have new profile pictures? Kinda confussing at first to see so many familar names with unfamiliar faces right beside them)
I got a new one. Not too different but enough. And I lost my IT badge.Had to make room for WNT. So wish there was more than 4 lines visible in the signiture.
You can fit everything in there if you use hyperlinks like this.
#41803
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:12
HellishFiend wrote...
estebanus wrote...
Wait a second... Is that you, Hellish? I didn't recognize you at all without your batarian avatar!
Yeah, its me.I announced the change when I made it yesterday, but didnt want to overdo things by announcing it every day to make sure everyone saw it.
How do I put up a custom avatar like yours?
#41804
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:13
BatmanTurian wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
estebanus wrote...
Wait a second... Is that you, Hellish? I didn't recognize you at all without your batarian avatar!
Yeah, its me.I announced the change when I made it yesterday, but didnt want to overdo things by announcing it every day to make sure everyone saw it.
How do I put up a custom avatar like yours?
Follow the instructions in this blog:
http://social.biowar...2113/blog/4817/
#41805
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:14
thanksHellishFiend wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
estebanus wrote...
Wait a second... Is that you, Hellish? I didn't recognize you at all without your batarian avatar!
Yeah, its me.I announced the change when I made it yesterday, but didnt want to overdo things by announcing it every day to make sure everyone saw it.
How do I put up a custom avatar like yours?
Follow the instructions in this blog:
http://social.biowar...2113/blog/4817/
#41806
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:15
TJBartlemus wrote...
I got a new one. Not too different but enough. And I lost my IT badge.Had to make room for WNT. So wish there was more than 4 lines visible in the signiture.
As I said: confussing...at first at leastestebanus wrote...
Besides of me and Hellish, I think Salient Archer also changed his...
Modifié par Riot86, 09 juillet 2012 - 12:16 .
#41807
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:16
#41808
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:16
Riot86 wrote...
Really? That's good to know, thanks for the infoestebanus wrote...
It is stated in Mass Effect: retribution that the illusive man's base traveled between different systems in order to minimize detection, so your idea is till valid!Riot86 wrote...
*snip*
(BTW: Do you guys have new profile pictures? Kinda confussing at first to see so many familar names with unfamiliar faces right beside them)
"Who are these people? These faces? Where do they come from?"
#41809
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:18
MaximizedAction wrote...
Riot86 wrote...
Really? That's good to know, thanks for the infoestebanus wrote...
It is stated in Mass Effect: retribution that the illusive man's base traveled between different systems in order to minimize detection, so your idea is till valid!Riot86 wrote...
*snip*
(BTW: Do you guys have new profile pictures? Kinda confussing at first to see so many familar names with unfamiliar faces right beside them)
"Who are these people? These faces? Where do they come from?"
It's a lose-lose situation I guess. Either you look like a self-important ass by making regular avatar change announcements until everyone sees it, or you announce it once/not at all and you get tons of
Ah well, it's worth it. I have a clipboard!!
#41810
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:19
HellishFiend wrote...
Auralius Carolus wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Unsurprisingly, since Shep has to be very naive to think Synthesis is a good choice, he dreams up a very naive scenario where it all works out. Synthehusk only gets a small cameo, because he chooses not to think about the unpleasant implications of having to incorporate Reaper monstrosities into galactic society.
I was just thinking of something similar yesterday: I was reading about attempts to bring back the 300-year extinct Aurocks cattle to fight the beech tree take-over in Europe. Meanwhile, I was pondering, "How is it that these same people preach evolution and natural selection one minute, then resort to bio-engineering and artificial selection the next? What great hypocrisy people can show..."
Evolution is subjective, cyclic and circumstancial, not static or hierarchical. You dominate or you die, which is exactly what the Reapers practice, in spite of their insistance of an evolutionary apex.
Very true. Unfortunately that is a very advanced concept from an educational standpoint, and I dont think most ME players are familiar with it.
I don't see the advanced or educated part; strikes me as common sense really. Bad guy breaks into your house with a gun; you shoot him so he doesn't shoot you. You dominte your rival, you survive. But you're not truly on top. Go into the water and you're a sitting duck to anything that is adept to such environs. And even if you survive that, just when you're feeling high and mighty, you get reckless and get taken out by an infected wound.
#41811
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:19
Don't get too used to my current avatar! When I come home from the USA, I'll change it into my first Shepard!Riot86 wrote...
TJBartlemus wrote...
I got a new one. Not too different but enough. And I lost my IT badge.Had to make room for WNT. So wish there was more than 4 lines visible in the signiture.
As I said: confussing...at first at leastestebanus wrote...
Besides of me and Hellish, I think Salient Archer also changed his...
#41812
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:21
Just to screw with you guys.
#41813
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:21
Auralius Carolus wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Very true. Unfortunately that is a very advanced concept from an educational standpoint, and I dont think most ME players are familiar with it.
I don't see the advanced or educated part; strikes me as common sense really. Bad guy breaks into your house with a gun; you shoot him so he doesn't shoot you. You dominte your rival, you survive. But you're not truly on top. Go into the water and you're a sitting duck to anything that is adept to such environs. And even if you survive that, just when you're feeling high and mighty, you get reckless and get taken out by an infected wound.
You say that as if people actually apply common sense to video games.
#41814
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:23
No! Don't! Everyone here only knows you as Liara!byne wrote...
I should change my avatar daily.
Just to screw with you guys.
#41815
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:24
Don't mind the ":blink:-reactions"...even though people (like me) might be a bit confussed at first, it takes a day at most to get used to the new picturesHellishFiend wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Riot86 wrote...
Really? That's good to know, thanks for the infoestebanus wrote...
It is stated in Mass Effect: retribution that the illusive man's base traveled between different systems in order to minimize detection, so your idea is till valid!Riot86 wrote...
*snip*
(BTW: Do you guys have new profile pictures? Kinda confussing at first to see so many familar names with unfamiliar faces right beside them)
"Who are these people? These faces? Where do they come from?"
It's a lose-lose situation I guess. Either you look like a self-important ass by making regular avatar change announcements until everyone sees it, or you announce it once/not at all and you get tons ofreactions....
Ah well, it's worth it. I have a clipboard!!
#41816
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:24
estebanus wrote...
No! Don't! Everyone here only knows you as Liara!byne wrote...
I should change my avatar daily.
Just to screw with you guys.
The thread might implode if he did. People would click on it, see the wrong avatar, and leave because they assumed they were in the wrong thread.
#41817
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:26
And as Bioware said anything on Twitter, Facebook, or on the BSN?
#41818
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:27
Exactly! Although, if Arian would change his profile picture, I'm sure there would be a similar reaction...HellishFiend wrote...
estebanus wrote...
No! Don't! Everyone here only knows you as Liara!byne wrote...
I should change my avatar daily.
Just to screw with you guys.
The thread might implode if he did. People would click on it, see the wrong avatar, and leave because they assumed they were in the wrong thread.
#41819
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:27
HellishFiend wrote...
Dwailing wrote...
You know, I actually had a thought about Refuse that makes it NOT a bad idea. Refuse believes that you can win conventionally. Destroy requires the use of the Crucible, which requires Starbinger to function. Without the Catalyst, the Crucible is useless. Which means that, even in Destroy, you STILL are reliant on Starbinger to win the war. Also, there's one more thing. Refuse is, from an absolute face-value interpretation, THE most repulsive of the choices once you, the player, know what it does. And assuming that you, the player, is the one REALLY being indoctrinated, not just Shepard, then that would mean that Refuse, being what is seemingly the worst choice, would actually be the BEST choice since it's the one that the PLAYER would have the hardest time choosing once s/he knows what it does. Or maybe I'm just nuts.
Gonna have to go with nuts.You're somewhat contradicting yourself by picking and choosing elements of mutually exclusive interpretations to support your view of Refuse. A little face-value here... a little player-indoc there... voila!
If you stick to any one interpretation, Refuse is always a bad choice no matter how you look at it. Face value, Shep Indoc, Player Indoc, refuse causes you to lose no matter what.
OK, I guess I might just be nuts. But my question is this, why would they put Rejection in if it was just another way to make you indoctrinated? We ALREADY have two of those (Which are VERY popular in SOME circles, I might add.). I still think that Rejection is a way to break free. If you were to believe the Star-Brat, it's THE worst move that Shepard can make. If you keep telling it you won't use the Crucible, it seems to get more and more disgruntled. If it's just another way to be indoctrinated, why wouldn't it give you ignoring it as an option (You know, something like, "You could choose to do nothing, and hope that your fleet is powerful enough to stop us on its own.")? Why would it make SUCH a big deal out of you doing nothing? I mean, you're in a hallucination, right? And while you're in the hallucination, you're not fighting. Why would he be upset if you ignored him and decided to stay in the hallucination, while he says nothing at all when you choose Destroy and supposedly break free? To quote Corporal Jenkins, "There must be somethin' else goin' on."
P.S.: I THINK I tried to stick to a Shepard Indoc perspective, but if I didn't, please tell me.
Modifié par Dwailing, 09 juillet 2012 - 12:31 .
#41820
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:27
masster blaster wrote...
So anything that we found to bring into IT?
And as Bioware said anything on Twitter, Facebook, or on the BSN?
Nope, at this point its just status quo until we find out what they have to say at comic-con.
#41821
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:28
I'm intrigued by this "leviathan" DLC rumor...HellishFiend wrote...
masster blaster wrote...
So anything that we found to bring into IT?
And as Bioware said anything on Twitter, Facebook, or on the BSN?
Nope, at this point its just status quo until we find out what they have to say at comic-con.
#41822
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:29
The bolded part made me have a quick look at your profile...and only now I realize that you aren't an American but a fellow Germanestebanus wrote...
Don't get too used to my current avatar! When I come home from the USA, I'll change it into my first Shepard!
#41823
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:30
estebanus wrote...
I'm intrigued by this "leviathan" DLC rumor...
It's spelled "leak" not "rumor."
#41824
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:31
Dwailing wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Dwailing wrote...
You know, I actually had a thought about Refuse that makes it NOT a bad idea. Refuse believes that you can win conventionally. Destroy requires the use of the Crucible, which requires Starbinger to function. Without the Catalyst, the Crucible is useless. Which means that, even in Destroy, you STILL are reliant on Starbinger to win the war. Also, there's one more thing. Refuse is, from an absolute face-value interpretation, THE most repulsive of the choices once you, the player, know what it does. And assuming that you, the player, is the one REALLY being indoctrinated, not just Shepard, then that would mean that Refuse, being what is seemingly the worst choice, would actually be the BEST choice since it's the one that the PLAYER would have the hardest time choosing once s/he knows what it does. Or maybe I'm just nuts.
Gonna have to go with nuts.You're somewhat contradicting yourself by picking and choosing elements of mutually exclusive interpretations to support your view of Refuse. A little face-value here... a little player-indoc there... voila!
If you stick to any one interpretation, Refuse is always a bad choice no matter how you look at it. Face value, Shep Indoc, Player Indoc, refuse causes you to lose no matter what.
OK, I guess I might just be nuts. But my question is this, why would they put Rejection in if it was just another way to make you indoctrinated? We ALREADY have two of those (Which are VERY popular in SOME circles, I might add.). I still think that Rejection, is a way to break free. If you were to believe the Star-Brat, it's THE worst move that Shepard can make. If you keep telling it you won't use the Crucible, it seems to get more and more disgruntled. If it's just another way to be indoctrinated, why wouldn't it tell you that you could always just ignore it? Why would it make SUCH a big deal out of you doing nothing? I mean, you're in a hallucination, right? And while you're in the hallucination, you're not fighting. Why would he be upset if you ignored him and decided to stay in the hallucination, while he says nothing at all when you choose Destroy and supposedly break free? To quote Corporal Jenkins, "There must be somethin' else goin' on."
Which context are you in with that post, though? Your seem to jump around to different contexts depending on which point you're trying to make.
But to answer your question, the Reject ending is there because the players demanded it. Hence why Shep looks at the camera while delivering his pointless diatribe.
Now here's a question for you: If you had a lucid-quality dream in which the neurons of your brain were being rewired, and in that dream, your family and everyone you ever cared about were killed, how do you think that would affect you?
Modifié par HellishFiend, 09 juillet 2012 - 12:32 .
#41825
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 12:31
Riot86 wrote...
The bolded part made me have a quick look at your profile...and only now I realize that you aren't an American but a fellow Germanestebanus wrote...
Don't get too used to my current avatar! When I come home from the USA, I'll change it into my first Shepard!
Sheesh, there are a LOT of Germans on this thread. Are you guys smarter than us lowly United Statesians or something?




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