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[masster blaster]

Turbo_J wrote...

The Reaper in London can kill you just as easily if you stand still for too long.

Ya but what am trying to say. How can people believe that Shepard can survive a direct hit with a Harby beam of death. That has been proven through out the game that Shepard DIES if hit by a Reaper death ray beam.

Which I would  like the people who say that IT is wrong, because Sheaprd is the main character so he can survive everything, but no Shepard can die as anybody could. to come with a good idea that Shepard can survive a hit to a Reaper beam.

oh and yes your right. So if Shepard can not survive a the Reaper death beam, then there is no reason for the game to continue, if Shepard is dead. Hence forth why Harby let's Shepard live, is to Indoctrinated Shepard, and if he picks the right choices then Harby kills Shepard, unless you have high EMS. Then Shepard's assets save Shepard before the Reaper ground forces, or Harby kill Shepard.

Modifié par masster blaster, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:18 .

[estebanus]

masster blaster wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

The Reaper in London can kill you just as easily if you stand still for too long.

Ya but what am trying to say. How can people believe that Shepard can survive a direct hit with a Harby beam of death. That has been proven through out the game that Shepard DIES if hit by a Reaper death ray beam.

Which I would like the people who say that IT is wrong, because Sheaprd is the main character so he can survive everything, but no Shepard can die as anybody could.

I think reapers are able to control the yield of their beams...

[masster blaster]

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

The Reaper in London can kill you just as easily if you stand still for too long.

Ya but what am trying to say. How can people believe that Shepard can survive a direct hit with a Harby beam of death. That has been proven through out the game that Shepard DIES if hit by a Reaper death ray beam.

Which I would like the people who say that IT is wrong, because Sheaprd is the main character so he can survive everything, but no Shepard can die as anybody could.

I think reapers are able to control the yield of their beams...

Well then why the suden change in the beam, if Harby/ the Catalyst was not changed by the Crucible at that point in the game. Then there is no reason, why Harby does not kill Shepard there and they win.

Modifié par masster blaster, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:03 .

[Eryri]

Arian Dynas wrote...

So the idea being that the reason the Destroy tube kills the Geth, is because the Reapers are trying to make it to where Shepard is unwilling to render Legion's sacrifice meaningless?

What are your thoughts about playthroughs where Shepard did not care about EDI or let the Geth die?

Hi Arian. Anything new come up?

Re the above, I did notice in the final dream sequence you can hear a very plaintive sounding Legion saying things like "Does this unit have a soul? Do we not deserve life?" or words to that effect.

Might be more misdirection away from Destroy? Certainly made me feel guilty for picking it.

Modifié par Eryri, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:07 .

[Jere85]

Off topic maybe but ive been gone for 3 days, did i miss anything significant by chance? IT wise and just general EC wise?

[estebanus]

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

The Reaper in London can kill you just as easily if you stand still for too long.

Ya but what am trying to say. How can people believe that Shepard can survive a direct hit with a Harby beam of death. That has been proven through out the game that Shepard DIES if hit by a Reaper death ray beam.

Which I would like the people who say that IT is wrong, because Sheaprd is the main character so he can survive everything, but no Shepard can die as anybody could.

I think reapers are able to control the yield of their beams...

Well then why the suden change in the beam, if Harby/ the Catalyst was not changed by the Crucible at that point in the game. Then there is no reason, why Harby does not kill Shepard there and they win.

Maybe because Harbinger wants Shepard alive?

[masster blaster]

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

The Reaper in London can kill you just as easily if you stand still for too long.

Ya but what am trying to say. How can people believe that Shepard can survive a direct hit with a Harby beam of death. That has been proven through out the game that Shepard DIES if hit by a Reaper death ray beam.

Which I would like the people who say that IT is wrong, because Sheaprd is the main character so he can survive everything, but no Shepard can die as anybody could.

I think reapers are able to control the yield of their beams...

Well then why the suden change in the beam, if Harby/ the Catalyst was not changed by the Crucible at that point in the game. Then there is no reason, why Harby does not kill Shepard there and they win.

Maybe because Harbinger wants Shepard alive?

ya but for what. if this is not a dream, then they have no use for Shepard, since for one if this is not an Indoctrination attempt while Shepard is down. Then what is it?
Harby letting Shepard live is point less, because the Catalyst is not change by the Crucibles energy, if it's real. So no point if they let Shepard live, if they are not Indoctrinating Shepard/moves by the Catalyst, if the Crucible docks with the Citadel.

[Arian Dynas]

Eryri wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

So the idea being that the reason the Destroy tube kills the Geth, is because the Reapers are trying to make it to where Shepard is unwilling to render Legion's sacrifice meaningless?

What are your thoughts about playthroughs where Shepard did not care about EDI or let the Geth die?

Hi Arian. Anything new come up?

Re the above, I did notice in the final dream sequence you can hear a very plaintive sounding Legion saying things like "Does this unit have a soul? Do we not deserve life?" or words to that effect.

Might be more misdirection away from Destroy? Certainly made me feel guilty for picking it.

Information insufficent.

Please re-state query and specify time period.

[Priss Blackburne]

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

The Reaper in London can kill you just as easily if you stand still for too long.

Ya but what am trying to say. How can people believe that Shepard can survive a direct hit with a Harby beam of death. That has been proven through out the game that Shepard DIES if hit by a Reaper death ray beam.

Which I would like the people who say that IT is wrong, because Sheaprd is the main character so he can survive everything, but no Shepard can die as anybody could.

I think reapers are able to control the yield of their beams...

Well then why the suden change in the beam, if Harby/ the Catalyst was not changed by the Crucible at that point in the game. Then there is no reason, why Harby does not kill Shepard there and they win.

Maybe because Harbinger wants Shepard alive?

ya but for what. if this is not a dream, then they have no use for Shepard, since for one if this is not an Indoctrination attempt while Shepard is down. Then what is it?
Harby letting Shepard live is point less, because the Catalyst is not change by the Crucibles energy, if it's real. So no point if they let Shepard live, if they are not Indoctrinating Shepard/moves by the Catalyst, if the Crucible docks with the Citadel.

If the reapers primary purpose is to preserve life in reaper form, then they would go to great lengths to secure the one being they see as the superior being of this cycle. Turning Shepard into a husk or killing him is against their primary directive.

since the collectors failed in obtaining Shepard before they are left with only one option. Indoctrination. But they can't just gain full control over him which would turn shepard into essentialy a Husk. They need to slowly turn him so they don't overide Shepards mind completely. Just enought to have him come willingly. It's a delicate balance which is why it is happening so so I believe.

Modifié par Priss Blackburne, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:23 .

[masster blaster]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

The Reaper in London can kill you just as easily if you stand still for too long.

Ya but what am trying to say. How can people believe that Shepard can survive a direct hit with a Harby beam of death. That has been proven through out the game that Shepard DIES if hit by a Reaper death ray beam.

Which I would like the people who say that IT is wrong, because Sheaprd is the main character so he can survive everything, but no Shepard can die as anybody could.

I think reapers are able to control the yield of their beams...

Well then why the suden change in the beam, if Harby/ the Catalyst was not changed by the Crucible at that point in the game. Then there is no reason, why Harby does not kill Shepard there and they win.

Maybe because Harbinger wants Shepard alive?

ya but for what. if this is not a dream, then they have no use for Shepard, since for one if this is not an Indoctrination attempt while Shepard is down. Then what is it?
Harby letting Shepard live is point less, because the Catalyst is not change by the Crucibles energy, if it's real. So no point if they let Shepard live, if they are not Indoctrinating Shepard/moves by the Catalyst, if the Crucible docks with the Citadel.

If the reapers primary purpose is to preserve life in reaper form, then they would go to great lengths to secure the one being they see as the superior being of this cycle. Turning Shepard into a husk or killing him is against their primary directive.

are you sure, because I could have sworn that the Leviathan primary purpose was that to, but said f*** this, and left the Reaper army.

oh and if they wanted to, then why did Hary leave, if this is not a dream/Indoc attempt?

Harby could have picked up Shepard, and that's it.

Modifié par masster blaster, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:25 .

[estebanus]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

The Reaper in London can kill you just as easily if you stand still for too long.

Ya but what am trying to say. How can people believe that Shepard can survive a direct hit with a Harby beam of death. That has been proven through out the game that Shepard DIES if hit by a Reaper death ray beam.

Which I would like the people who say that IT is wrong, because Sheaprd is the main character so he can survive everything, but no Shepard can die as anybody could.

I think reapers are able to control the yield of their beams...

Well then why the suden change in the beam, if Harby/ the Catalyst was not changed by the Crucible at that point in the game. Then there is no reason, why Harby does not kill Shepard there and they win.

Maybe because Harbinger wants Shepard alive?

ya but for what. if this is not a dream, then they have no use for Shepard, since for one if this is not an Indoctrination attempt while Shepard is down. Then what is it?
Harby letting Shepard live is point less, because the Catalyst is not change by the Crucibles energy, if it's real. So no point if they let Shepard live, if they are not Indoctrinating Shepard/moves by the Catalyst, if the Crucible docks with the Citadel.

If the reapers primary purpose is to preserve life in reaper form, then they would go to great lengths to secure the one being they see as the superior being of this cycle. Turning Shepard into a husk or killing him is against their primary directive.

Exactly. Having Shepard would be their biggest prize. Shepard symbolizes everzthing the galaxy stands for. It would be foolish to waste such a character.

[Priss Blackburne]

masster blaster wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

The Reaper in London can kill you just as easily if you stand still for too long.

Ya but what am trying to say. How can people believe that Shepard can survive a direct hit with a Harby beam of death. That has been proven through out the game that Shepard DIES if hit by a Reaper death ray beam.

Which I would like the people who say that IT is wrong, because Sheaprd is the main character so he can survive everything, but no Shepard can die as anybody could.

I think reapers are able to control the yield of their beams...

Well then why the suden change in the beam, if Harby/ the Catalyst was not changed by the Crucible at that point in the game. Then there is no reason, why Harby does not kill Shepard there and they win.

Maybe because Harbinger wants Shepard alive?

ya but for what. if this is not a dream, then they have no use for Shepard, since for one if this is not an Indoctrination attempt while Shepard is down. Then what is it?
Harby letting Shepard live is point less, because the Catalyst is not change by the Crucibles energy, if it's real. So no point if they let Shepard live, if they are not Indoctrinating Shepard/moves by the Catalyst, if the Crucible docks with the Citadel.

If the reapers primary purpose is to preserve life in reaper form, then they would go to great lengths to secure the one being they see as the superior being of this cycle. Turning Shepard into a husk or killing him is against their primary directive.

are you sure, because I could have sworn that the Leviathan primary purpose was that to, but said f*** this, and left the Reaper army.

oh and if they wanted to, then why did Hary leave, if this is not a dream/Indoc attempt?

Harby could have picked up Shepard, and that's it.

I fully believe it is a dream, I'm just arguing why the reapers would want him alive..and I think a reaper would have a problem picking up a single human without crushing it. They would send some Reaper troops to pick him up, which there was none around at that moment. But Again I do think after the beam is a dream.

And I think about it now..why is there not even a single reaper husk around the beam until after shepard is knocked out.

Modifié par Priss Blackburne, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:29 .

[Leonia]

estebanus wrote...
I think reapers are able to control the yield of their beams...

Ok, who else read that with a dirty mind? Nobody? Aww..

[estebanus]

leonia42 wrote...

estebanus wrote...
I think reapers are able to control the yield of their beams...

Ok, who else read that with a dirty mind? Nobody? Aww..

*Slaps you*

[Leonia]

It's not the size of the yield that matters, only in how it is wielded!

[Eryri]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Information insufficent.

Please re-state query and specify time period.

Redefining query.

Information request -"further evidence for / against indoctrination within last solar day."

End of line.

[XanderLav]

masster blaster wrote...


are you sure, because I could have sworn that the Leviathan primary purpose was that to, but said f*** this, and left the Reaper army.

oh and if they wanted to, then why did Hary leave, if this is not a dream/Indoc attempt?

Harby could have picked up Shepard, and that's it.

Don't use Leviathan as a proof of anything. The DLC is neither released nor you have solid evidence of what to think of Leviathan. You can speculate on leaked scripts, but you can't build your argument using it.

[masster blaster]

estebanus wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

The Reaper in London can kill you just as easily if you stand still for too long.

Ya but what am trying to say. How can people believe that Shepard can survive a direct hit with a Harby beam of death. That has been proven through out the game that Shepard DIES if hit by a Reaper death ray beam.

Which I would like the people who say that IT is wrong, because Sheaprd is the main character so he can survive everything, but no Shepard can die as anybody could.

I think reapers are able to control the yield of their beams...

Well then why the suden change in the beam, if Harby/ the Catalyst was not changed by the Crucible at that point in the game. Then there is no reason, why Harby does not kill Shepard there and they win.

Maybe because Harbinger wants Shepard alive?

ya but for what. if this is not a dream, then they have no use for Shepard, since for one if this is not an Indoctrination attempt while Shepard is down. Then what is it?
Harby letting Shepard live is point less, because the Catalyst is not change by the Crucibles energy, if it's real. So no point if they let Shepard live, if they are not Indoctrinating Shepard/moves by the Catalyst, if the Crucible docks with the Citadel.

If the reapers primary purpose is to preserve life in reaper form, then they would go to great lengths to secure the one being they see as the superior being of this cycle. Turning Shepard into a husk or killing him is against their primary directive.

Exactly. Having Shepard would be their biggest prize. Shepard symbolizes everzthing the galaxy stands for. It would be foolish to waste such a character.

yes but the why all of this. Why not kill Shepard's friends and Anderson, if they want Shepard. If Shepard kills Anderson, he/seh seems like okay Anderson is dead, and the Reaeprs had nothing to do with this/Catalyst.
That's what bothers me. Everything is to easy after Shepard get's hit by Harbys beam, and it's weird that nobody in front of Shepard is vaporised, if this is real, because I doubt three husk and a maruder could take on the on rushing waves of Alliance, not Hammer because No Asari, Turian, Krogan, Geth, Salarien, or none human/ old squad mates are mot there at the Charge to the Conduit.

[XanderLav]

leonia42 wrote...

It's not the size of the yield that matters, only in how it is wielded!

:D:D

[Priss Blackburne]

As for not destroying Shepards squadmates or the normandy. I like to think that being so close to gaining control over Shepard they don't want to risk killing anyone he/she cares deeply about. This would just further Fortify Shepards resolve to destroy the reapers that just recently killed shepards friends, and be less receptive to any kind of compromise.

Modifié par Priss Blackburne, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:36 .

[masster blaster]

XanderLav wrote...

masster blaster wrote...


are you sure, because I could have sworn that the Leviathan primary purpose was that to, but said f*** this, and left the Reaper army.

oh and if they wanted to, then why did Hary leave, if this is not a dream/Indoc attempt?

Harby could have picked up Shepard, and that's it.

Don't use Leviathan as a proof of anything. The DLC is neither released nor you have solid evidence of what to think of Leviathan. You can speculate on leaked scripts, but you can't build your argument using it.

i am simply aplying that if the leviathan can disobey the Catalyst, then why don't the Reapers just leave, or there is no Catalyst that Controls the Reaperes, but Harbinger. Since if they have AI shackels like mentioned in the script, then I think the Creators taht built the Reapers/harby were building the first Synthetic that was supposte to store the knowlogy ot the specias, but it begain to think for it's self, and started Reapering it"s creator/ teh leviathans.

The Reaeprs are based off the Leviathans as the Catalyst states that what you see as the body of the Reapers, is the shape of the Creators.

[Arian Dynas]

estebanus wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

estebanus wrote...
I think reapers are able to control the yield of their beams...

Ok, who else read that with a dirty mind? Nobody? Aww..

*Slaps you*

I find it amusing that the man is slapping the woman for a dirty joke here.

[Arian Dynas]

Eryri wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Information insufficent.

Please re-state query and specify time period.

Redefining query.

Information request -"further evidence for / against indoctrination within last solar day."

End of line.

File read error.

Terminating process.

[masster blaster]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

The Reaper in London can kill you just as easily if you stand still for too long.

Ya but what am trying to say. How can people believe that Shepard can survive a direct hit with a Harby beam of death. That has been proven through out the game that Shepard DIES if hit by a Reaper death ray beam.

Which I would like the people who say that IT is wrong, because Sheaprd is the main character so he can survive everything, but no Shepard can die as anybody could.

I think reapers are able to control the yield of their beams...

Well then why the suden change in the beam, if Harby/ the Catalyst was not changed by the Crucible at that point in the game. Then there is no reason, why Harby does not kill Shepard there and they win.

Maybe because Harbinger wants Shepard alive?

ya but for what. if this is not a dream, then they have no use for Shepard, since for one if this is not an Indoctrination attempt while Shepard is down. Then what is it?
Harby letting Shepard live is point less, because the Catalyst is not change by the Crucibles energy, if it's real. So no point if they let Shepard live, if they are not Indoctrinating Shepard/moves by the Catalyst, if the Crucible docks with the Citadel.

If the reapers primary purpose is to preserve life in reaper form, then they would go to great lengths to secure the one being they see as the superior being of this cycle. Turning Shepard into a husk or killing him is against their primary directive.

are you sure, because I could have sworn that the Leviathan primary purpose was that to, but said f*** this, and left the Reaper army.

oh and if they wanted to, then why did Hary leave, if this is not a dream/Indoc attempt?

Harby could have picked up Shepard, and that's it.

I fully believe it is a dream, I'm just arguing why the reapers would want him alive..and I think a reaper would have a problem picking up a single human without crushing it. They would send some Reaper troops to pick him up, which there was none around at that moment. But Again I do think after the beam is a dream.

And I think about it now..why is there not even a single reaper husk around the beam until after shepard is knocked out.

yes but if Harby wanted Shepard, he would have stayed with Shepard'sbody until they picked Sheaprd up and brought Sheapard onboard the Citadel, or inside harby.

[Turbo_J]

masster blaster wrote...

yes but the why all of this. Why not kill Shepard's friends and Anderson, if they want Shepard. If Shepard kills Anderson, he/seh seems like okay Anderson is dead, and the Reaeprs had nothing to do with this/Catalyst.
That's what bothers me. Everything is to easy after Shepard get's hit by Harbys beam, and it's weird that nobody in front of Shepard is vaporised, if this is real, because I doubt three husk and a maruder could take on the on rushing waves of Alliance, not Hammer because No Asari, Turian, Krogan, Geth, Salarien, or none human/ old squad mates are mot there at the Charge to the Conduit.

Quote pyramid reduction competed.

Not running into a single alien squad during the push is a very good point and should be expounded upon.

I need to run for a while so have at it.