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Dwailing wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Dwailing wrote...
OK, I'm going to change my sig. Sorry Garrus Vakarian facts, but you have to go for a while. Tell me what you think of my revised version when I'm done.
Thanks! What can I say, I get VERY sick of people calling the BioWare writers bad/lazy.
Modifié par MaximizedAction, 09 juillet 2012 - 08:04 .
Tobi you must be tiredUltimateTobi wrote...
Oh, jeez forgot about that.byne wrote...
UltimateTobi wrote...
Good point. Never thought about that. But it makes sense. In no ME you were able to kill a friend with a Renegade option. In ME3 you do.
And even let Samara kill herself with non-Paragon-action her. And her daughter later per Renegade decision.
(And, everytime someone shot in his/her own head, blood was flying all over the place, except when TIM shot in his own head. There was no blood. I know, old evidence, just wanted to repeat it in that context.)
You could kill Wrex in ME1
Forget what I said.
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Hmm. Seems like no one in that thread understood what you meant.That's why I love this thread. IMHO a conglomeration of the smartest people on BSN.
Makrys wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Stornskar wrote...
The point isn't necessarily why Vorcha tie to EMS - it's more along the lines of, why does EMS affect your choices in the Crucible?
Yep, exactly. And promoting Vorcha from multiplayer was the most ridiculous example I could come up with.
Basically, Hellish is being brilliant here, and no one recognized it initally so many bashed him for his seemingly retarded idea.
Then later, Hellish revealed his true point, which was brilliant and wowed many.
Hmmm, sounds familiar.
Modifié par HellishFiend, 09 juillet 2012 - 08:06 .
Excessive overuse. Holy crap that's a lot of use!MaximizedAction wrote...
Dwailing wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Dwailing wrote...
OK, I'm going to change my sig. Sorry Garrus Vakarian facts, but you have to go for a while. Tell me what you think of my revised version when I'm done.
Thanks! What can I say, I get VERY sick of people calling the BioWare writers bad/lazy.
Henceforth I shall be excessively overusing the term "Fridge ___". And how it beautifully fits to ME3.
Still it is a useful thing to bring up when people are all like: "BW obviously sucks and is lazy".
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Yeah that's basically it. Just remember that in many conversations top doesn't really mean paragon and bottom doesn't really mean renegade. It's more yes or no depending on the context. That's why I don't do "paragon playthroughs" or "renegade playthroughs". I do normal playthroughs and answer things how I would actually answer them.D.Sharrah wrote...
Turbo_J wrote...
Snip...
...Hellish brought it up before but I thought I could expand on it...
I noticed early on that Paragon and Renegade are not the same in ME3. Paragon is doubt and Renegade is confidence. I've traced this as far back as the third meeting with Miranda. I'll have to do another playthrough to see when it actually 'starts'.
It's not purely consistent I don't think, interrupts are still what we have come to expect and red/blue choices seem to match up with ME1 and 2, but the right Renegade/Paragon choices seem to fit my observations. Come to think of it, even on Mars with Liara after going through the cafeteria, the first lower right choice is much more solid than the upper right.
Yet another video idea for thematic changes to player and Shepard's perception of things compared to the previous two games.
Really? That early, wow. But I do have a question in that regard. Seeing what your avatar is...I assume that Liara is the primary LI you choose...if so, do you think that momments where Shep seems to "lack confidence/strength of will" are in character? For me...Liara is the only one that Shep can show his vulnerability to...in fact there LOTSB meeting was great because of this. I think that it is appropriate for Shep to show some cracks in the armor...to be human...etc (however you want to phrase it)., when interacting with the LI. What do you think?
Lakeshow1986 wrote...
Playing through skyrim really does say something about a company that aren't forced to churn out games every two years. I really believe the ending and the game as a whole would've benefited from a break between ME2 & ME3. Instead we're here guessing what Bioware ment with the ending, that needed an extended cut to make any sense out of it.
Dwailing wrote...
OK, I'm going to change my sig. Sorry Garrus Vakarian facts, but you have to go for a while. Tell me what you think of my revised version when I'm done.
I can't even look at you... and your Garrus avatar. Fraud! 
But as for blood. When you shot Udina, there was no blood pouring AFAIK, but there was a gun shot wound on his chest.BansheeOwnage wrote...
Tobi you must be tired [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]UltimateTobi wrote...
Oh, jeez forgot about that.byne wrote...
UltimateTobi wrote...
Good point. Never thought about that. But it makes sense. In no ME you were able to kill a friend with a Renegade option. In ME3 you do.
And even let Samara kill herself with non-Paragon-action her. And her daughter later per Renegade decision.
(And, everytime someone shot in his/her own head, blood was flying all over the place, except when TIM shot in his own head. There was no blood. I know, old evidence, just wanted to repeat it in that context.)
You could kill Wrex in ME1
Forget what I said.
Modifié par UltimateTobi, 09 juillet 2012 - 08:10 .
Yeah I don't know.UltimateTobi wrote...
But as for blood. When you shot Udina, there was no blood pouring AFAIK, but there was a gun shot wound on his chest.BansheeOwnage wrote...
Tobi you must be tiredUltimateTobi wrote...
Oh, jeez forgot about that.byne wrote...
UltimateTobi wrote...
Good point. Never thought about that. But it makes sense. In no ME you were able to kill a friend with a Renegade option. In ME3 you do.
And even let Samara kill herself with non-Paragon-action her. And her daughter later per Renegade decision.
(And, everytime someone shot in his/her own head, blood was flying all over the place, except when TIM shot in his own head. There was no blood. I know, old evidence, just wanted to repeat it in that context.)
You could kill Wrex in ME1
Forget what I said.
So, why making it quite realistic in every cut scene where someone dies, or where you could see where someone got shot, except for TIM. You were able to see that he was shooting in his head. But there was no blood at all.
BW could've changed that with the EC, and if it was a bug, it was a obvious one, and appearantly they didn't change it.
UltimateTobi wrote...
Oh, jeez forgot about that.byne wrote...
UltimateTobi wrote...
Good point. Never thought about that. But it makes sense. In no ME you were able to kill a friend with a Renegade option. In ME3 you do.
And even let Samara kill herself with non-Paragon-action her. And her daughter later per Renegade decision.
(And, everytime someone shot in his/her own head, blood was flying all over the place, except when TIM shot in his own head. There was no blood. I know, old evidence, just wanted to repeat it in that context.)
You could kill Wrex in ME1
Forget what I said.
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Yeah I don't know.
http://t3.gstatic.co...EdjFJRID-FC1fwA
[smilie]http://www.oxmonline.com/files/u11/head_explode_copy.jpg[/smilie]
Modifié par UltimateTobi, 09 juillet 2012 - 08:18 .
UltimateTobi wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Yeah I don't know.
http://t3.gstatic.co...EdjFJRID-FC1fwA
[smilie]http://www.oxmonline.com/files/u11/head_explode_copy.jpg[/smilie]
Haha, priceless.
*Killed quote pyramid.*
Makes sense. Let it say that way. You were able to be rude. Or a little jerky in ME-ME2. Or acting in self-defense in ME against Wrex.masster blaster wrote...
UltimateTobi wrote...
Oh, jeez forgot about that.byne wrote...
UltimateTobi wrote...
Good point. Never thought about that. But it makes sense. In no ME you were able to kill a friend with a Renegade option. In ME3 you do.
And even let Samara kill herself with non-Paragon-action her. And her daughter later per Renegade decision.
(And, everytime someone shot in his/her own head, blood was flying all over the place, except when TIM shot in his own head. There was no blood. I know, old evidence, just wanted to repeat it in that context.)
You could kill Wrex in ME1
Forget what I said.
Ya but that was a non cut Scene with the option appering, and this was big and we all though Wrex was going to kill Shepard if we don"t calm Wrex down. Also It's the cure for his people so ya I would want it so badly i would try to fight anyone who would try to destroy it.
Also Mordin shot in the Back just like Saren did to Nilus. Shot in the back.
Also killing Legion like that. three shots to the head. the HEAD. and not once did Shepard say I am sorry to Legion about this, but come on. Also Mordin was trying to save the Krogan, and even admites that it's his fault and want's to correct it.
Don't you see Bioware is letting the Player Indoctrinate Shepard, by influensing Shepard to kill his/her friends, which we could not do personaly in ME2 that Shepard DID not somebody else, but Shepard alone.
Modifié par UltimateTobi, 09 juillet 2012 - 08:24 .
byne wrote...
UltimateTobi wrote...
Good point. Never thought about that. But it makes sense. In no ME you were able to kill a friend with a Renegade option. In ME3 you do.
And even let Samara kill herself with non-Paragon-action her. And her daughter later per Renegade decision.
(And, everytime someone shot in his/her own head, blood was flying all over the place, except when TIM shot in his own head. There was no blood. I know, old evidence, just wanted to repeat it in that context.)
You could kill Wrex in ME1
) is introduced?
Yup, Wreav takes control instead.Rosewind wrote...
byne wrote...
UltimateTobi wrote...
Good point. Never thought about that. But it makes sense. In no ME you were able to kill a friend with a Renegade option. In ME3 you do.
And even let Samara kill herself with non-Paragon-action her. And her daughter later per Renegade decision.
(And, everytime someone shot in his/her own head, blood was flying all over the place, except when TIM shot in his own head. There was no blood. I know, old evidence, just wanted to repeat it in that context.)
You could kill Wrex in ME1
Who takes Wrex's place in ME 2? Is that when Reave(forgot spelling
Yeah everyone noticed the transition from ME1/ME2 renegade to ME3-murderous-psychopath-renegade but I never thought of a reason for it. "...manipulating the victim into betraying friends,masster blaster wrote...
UltimateTobi wrote...
Oh, jeez forgot about that.byne wrote...
UltimateTobi wrote...
Good point. Never thought about that. But it makes sense. In no ME you were able to kill a friend with a Renegade option. In ME3 you do.
And even let Samara kill herself with non-Paragon-action her. And her daughter later per Renegade decision.
(And, everytime someone shot in his/her own head, blood was flying all over the place, except when TIM shot in his own head. There was no blood. I know, old evidence, just wanted to repeat it in that context.)
You could kill Wrex in ME1
Forget what I said.
Ya but that was a non cut Scene with the option appering, and this was big and we all though Wrex was going to kill Shepard if we don"t calm Wrex down. Also It's the cure for his people so ya I would want it so badly i would try to fight anyone who would try to destroy it.
Also Mordin shot in the Back just like Saren did to Nilus. Shot in the back.
Also killing Legion like that. three shots to the head. the HEAD. and not once did Shepard say I am sorry to Legion about this, but come on. Also Mordin was trying to save the Krogan, and even admites that it's his fault and want's to correct it.
Don't you see Bioware is letting the Player Indoctrinate Shepard, by influensing Shepard to kill his/her friends, which we could not do personaly in ME2 that Shepard DID not somebody else, but Shepard alone.
Rosewind wrote...
byne wrote...
UltimateTobi wrote...
Good point. Never thought about that. But it makes sense. In no ME you were able to kill a friend with a Renegade option. In ME3 you do.
And even let Samara kill herself with non-Paragon-action her. And her daughter later per Renegade decision.
(And, everytime someone shot in his/her own head, blood was flying all over the place, except when TIM shot in his own head. There was no blood. I know, old evidence, just wanted to repeat it in that context.)
You could kill Wrex in ME1
Who takes Wrex's place in ME 2? Is that when Reave(forgot spelling
estebanus wrote...
Yup, Wreav takes control instead.Rosewind wrote...
Who takes Wrex's place in ME 2? Is that when Reave(forgot spelling
No, He's in control! No one tells him what to do!Rifneno wrote...
estebanus wrote...
Yup, Wreav takes control instead.Rosewind wrote...
Who takes Wrex's place in ME 2? Is that when Reave(forgot spelling
But does he assume direct control?
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Yeah everyone noticed the transition from ME1/ME2 renegade to ME3-murderous-psychopath-renegade but I never thought of a reason for it. "...manipulating the victim into betraying friends,masster blaster wrote...
UltimateTobi wrote...
Oh, jeez forgot about that.byne wrote...
UltimateTobi wrote...
Good point. Never thought about that. But it makes sense. In no ME you were able to kill a friend with a Renegade option. In ME3 you do.
And even let Samara kill herself with non-Paragon-action her. And her daughter later per Renegade decision.
(And, everytime someone shot in his/her own head, blood was flying all over the place, except when TIM shot in his own head. There was no blood. I know, old evidence, just wanted to repeat it in that context.)
You could kill Wrex in ME1
Forget what I said.
Ya but that was a non cut Scene with the option appering, and this was big and we all though Wrex was going to kill Shepard if we don"t calm Wrex down. Also It's the cure for his people so ya I would want it so badly i would try to fight anyone who would try to destroy it.
Also Mordin shot in the Back just like Saren did to Nilus. Shot in the back.
Also killing Legion like that. three shots to the head. the HEAD. and not once did Shepard say I am sorry to Legion about this, but come on. Also Mordin was trying to save the Krogan, and even admites that it's his fault and want's to correct it.
Don't you see Bioware is letting the Player Indoctrinate Shepard, by influensing Shepard to kill his/her friends, which we could not do personaly in ME2 that Shepard DID not somebody else, but Shepard alone.
trusting enemies,
or viewing the reaper itself in superstitious awe."
http://t1.gstatic.co...7FpQJOivD7ABQ-Q
Priss Blackburne wrote...
My favorite is playing skyrim, sneaking up behind a bandit and slicing his throat only to have him say " is someone there?" lol
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Yeah everyone noticed the transition from ME1/ME2 renegade to ME3-murderous-psychopath-renegade but I never thought of a reason for it. "...manipulating the victim into betraying friends,masster blaster wrote...
UltimateTobi wrote...
Oh, jeez forgot about that.byne wrote...
UltimateTobi wrote...
Good point. Never thought about that. But it makes sense. In no ME you were able to kill a friend with a Renegade option. In ME3 you do.
And even let Samara kill herself with non-Paragon-action her. And her daughter later per Renegade decision.
(And, everytime someone shot in his/her own head, blood was flying all over the place, except when TIM shot in his own head. There was no blood. I know, old evidence, just wanted to repeat it in that context.)
You could kill Wrex in ME1
Forget what I said.
Ya but that was a non cut Scene with the option appering, and this was big and we all though Wrex was going to kill Shepard if we don"t calm Wrex down. Also It's the cure for his people so ya I would want it so badly i would try to fight anyone who would try to destroy it.
Also Mordin shot in the Back just like Saren did to Nilus. Shot in the back.
Also killing Legion like that. three shots to the head. the HEAD. and not once did Shepard say I am sorry to Legion about this, but come on. Also Mordin was trying to save the Krogan, and even admites that it's his fault and want's to correct it.
Don't you see Bioware is letting the Player Indoctrinate Shepard, by influensing Shepard to kill his/her friends, which we could not do personaly in ME2 that Shepard DID not somebody else, but Shepard alone.
trusting enemies,
or viewing the reaper itself in superstitious awe."
http://t1.gstatic.co...7FpQJOivD7ABQ-Q
UltimateTobi wrote...
So, why making it quite realistic in every cut scene where someone dies, or where you could see where someone got shot, except for TIM. You were able to see that he was shooting in his head. But there was no blood at all.
ya and is it weird that in Destroy no Krogan rebellions ae starting again, if Wreav is in charge, and even in Control, or Synthesis ending.byne wrote...
Rosewind wrote...
byne wrote...
UltimateTobi wrote...
Good point. Never thought about that. But it makes sense. In no ME you were able to kill a friend with a Renegade option. In ME3 you do.
And even let Samara kill herself with non-Paragon-action her. And her daughter later per Renegade decision.
(And, everytime someone shot in his/her own head, blood was flying all over the place, except when TIM shot in his own head. There was no blood. I know, old evidence, just wanted to repeat it in that context.)
You could kill Wrex in ME1
Who takes Wrex's place in ME 2? Is that when Reave(forgot spelling
Yeah, Wreav takes Wrex's place in ME2 and ME3 if Wrex is dead. Wreav is unstable enough that he actually makes sabotaging the genophage seem like the morally right thing to do, and if Eve is dead, even Mordin will agree that sabotage is the best option.
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