Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!
#42526
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 09:46
#42527
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 09:47
We are back on topic in a second.Lokanaiya wrote...
So, nobody has anything to say about my post on the last page?
#42528
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 09:47
I'm back. That was directed at paxxton since he was in the pyramid. I just used the more recent post.Rosewind wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Think about it paxxton; if there is a mono-gendered species, it makes perfect sense to have "female" physical traits. You know, for reproductive purposes onlyRosewind wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Is is explained how it's possible for a female asari to have a baby with a female human?
Same way they are able to have a kid with any species in the galaxy..... and technically Asari aren't female they mono gender meaning they don't really have a gender, For all we know they could be males.
I am not Paxx
#42529
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 09:49
Yeah, makes sense for humans. But could also be something else - like a container with eyes.BansheeOwnage wrote...
I'm back. That was directed at paxxton since he was in the pyramid. I just used the more recent post.Rosewind wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Think about it paxxton; if there is a mono-gendered species, it makes perfect sense to have "female" physical traits. You know, for reproductive purposes onlyRosewind wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Is is explained how it's possible for a female asari to have a baby with a female human?
Same way they are able to have a kid with any species in the galaxy..... and technically Asari aren't female they mono gender meaning they don't really have a gender, For all we know they could be males.
I am not Paxx
Modifié par paxxton, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:50 .
#42530
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 09:49
Lokanaiya wrote...
So, nobody has anything to say about my post on the last page?
Don't feel bad. I posted a brief on my Asari origin theory and it was overlooked/ignored.
#42531
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 09:51
Turbo_J wrote...
Lokanaiya wrote...
So, nobody has anything to say about my post on the last page?
Don't feel bad. I posted a brief on my Asari origin theory and it was overlooked/ignored.
I didn't ignore it, I just silently agreed with it. Seriously, sometimes I just don't feel like posting a simple 'I agree'. Nothing personal, though.
And I think others didn't ignore it, either.
EDIT: Okay, I'll say sth about it: This is an interesting idea. The special thing about the asari is, accroding to Thessia's temple, the asari got a special treatment from the protheans. I'm wondering how that would fit into your theory.
Modifié par MaximizedAction, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:55 .
#42532
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 09:54
masster blaster wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Yeah everyone noticed the transition from ME1/ME2 renegade to ME3-murderous-psychopath-renegade but I never thought of a reason for it. "...manipulating the victim into betraying friends,masster blaster wrote...
UltimateTobi wrote...
Oh, jeez forgot about that.byne wrote...
UltimateTobi wrote...
Good point. Never thought about that. But it makes sense. In no ME you were able to kill a friend with a Renegade option. In ME3 you do.
And even let Samara kill herself with non-Paragon-action her. And her daughter later per Renegade decision.
(And, everytime someone shot in his/her own head, blood was flying all over the place, except when TIM shot in his own head. There was no blood. I know, old evidence, just wanted to repeat it in that context.)
You could kill Wrex in ME1
Forget what I said.
Ya but that was a non cut Scene with the option appering, and this was big and we all though Wrex was going to kill Shepard if we don"t calm Wrex down. Also It's the cure for his people so ya I would want it so badly i would try to fight anyone who would try to destroy it.
Also Mordin shot in the Back just like Saren did to Nilus. Shot in the back.
Also killing Legion like that. three shots to the head. the HEAD. and not once did Shepard say I am sorry to Legion about this, but come on. Also Mordin was trying to save the Krogan, and even admites that it's his fault and want's to correct it.
Don't you see Bioware is letting the Player Indoctrinate Shepard, by influensing Shepard to kill his/her friends, which we could not do personaly in ME2 that Shepard DID not somebody else, but Shepard alone.
trusting enemies,
or viewing the reaper itself in superstitious awe."
http://t1.gstatic.co...7FpQJOivD7ABQ-Q
Motherofgod.
Fridge brilliance!
It's only yesterday that I saw on youtube what Shep could do on a Renegade playthrough. And together with master's comment...wow, Shep's totally in Saren mode -- the only thing missing is him explaining to everyone how trusting and siding with the Reapers is the 'right thing'.
yep and right now I am look for Indoctrination on Paragon right now so we will see if Paragon is no tainted with Reaper mind tactics.
So far it looks like Paragon for Indoctrination is none of the triats that indoc has, however Shepard's stress level is high than Shepard was during the Skilien Blitzs, and EdI is readying through Shepard's Armor, so ya not much for Paragon, but I will keep looking.
Modifié par masster blaster, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:56 .
#42533
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 09:56
Where did you get those pics from?estebanus wrote...
Whatever generates your mass effect field.
Just don't ask where I got these pics from.
#42534
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 09:56
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Where did you get those pics from?estebanus wrote...
Whatever generates your mass effect field.
Just don't ask where I got these pics from.
http://social.biowar...ndex/12123444/5
#42535
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 09:56
MaximizedAction wrote...
Turbo_J wrote...
Lokanaiya wrote...
So, nobody has anything to say about my post on the last page?
Don't feel bad. I posted a brief on my Asari origin theory and it was overlooked/ignored.
I didn't ignore it, I just silently agreed with it. Seriously, sometimes I just don't feel like posting a simple 'I agree'. Nothing personal, though.
And I think others didn't ignore it, either.
I was violently opposed to Prothean involvement in Asari development when it was revealed. It was so distasteful I uninstalled ME3, reinstalled and then blocked the From Ashes DLC from installing. Eventually I got over it, but I still hate Javik on principle. Eventually I started wondering if the trinket and Eletania were far more important than a Prothean-human link. Especially given the source of the data disk/key.
#42536
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 09:58
estebanus wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Where did you get those pics from?estebanus wrote...
Whatever generates your mass effect field.
Just don't ask where I got these pics from.
http://social.biowar...ndex/12123444/5
#42537
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 09:59
Yes. That was my reaction too.BansheeOwnage wrote...
estebanus wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Where did you get those pics from?estebanus wrote...
Whatever generates your mass effect field.
Just don't ask where I got these pics from.
http://social.biowar...ndex/12123444/5
#42538
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 09:59
So are you like Liara in real life? I thought that was totally OOC for Liara to be so upset by that. Really stupid IMO.Turbo_J wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Turbo_J wrote...
Lokanaiya wrote...
So, nobody has anything to say about my post on the last page?
Don't feel bad. I posted a brief on my Asari origin theory and it was overlooked/ignored.
I didn't ignore it, I just silently agreed with it. Seriously, sometimes I just don't feel like posting a simple 'I agree'. Nothing personal, though.
And I think others didn't ignore it, either.
I was violently opposed to Prothean involvement in Asari development when it was revealed. It was so distasteful I uninstalled ME3, reinstalled and then blocked the From Ashes DLC from installing. Eventually I got over it, but I still hate Javik on principle. Eventually I started wondering if the trinket and Eletania were far more important than a Prothean-human link. Especially given the source of the data disk/key.
#42539
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 09:59
MaximizedAction wrote...
EDIT: Okay, I'll say sth about it: This is an interesting idea. The special thing about the asari is, accroding to Thessia's temple, the asari got a special treatment from the protheans. I'm wondering how that would fit into your theory.
Taken from earth, transplanted on Thesia, modified over time by both genetic manipulation and Eezo exposure.
#42540
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 10:01
Why would Javik lie about it then? I mean he identifies humans and asari differently.Turbo_J wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
EDIT: Okay, I'll say sth about it: This is an interesting idea. The special thing about the asari is, accroding to Thessia's temple, the asari got a special treatment from the protheans. I'm wondering how that would fit into your theory.
Taken from earth, transplanted on Thesia, modified over time by both genetic manipulation and Eezo exposure.
#42541
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 10:03
BansheeOwnage wrote...
So are you like Liara in real life? I thought that was totally OOC for Liara to be so upset by that. Really stupid IMO.Turbo_J wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Turbo_J wrote...
Lokanaiya wrote...
So, nobody has anything to say about my post on the last page?
Don't feel bad. I posted a brief on my Asari origin theory and it was overlooked/ignored.
I didn't ignore it, I just silently agreed with it. Seriously, sometimes I just don't feel like posting a simple 'I agree'. Nothing personal, though.
And I think others didn't ignore it, either.
I was violently opposed to Prothean involvement in Asari development when it was revealed. It was so distasteful I uninstalled ME3, reinstalled and then blocked the From Ashes DLC from installing. Eventually I got over it, but I still hate Javik on principle. Eventually I started wondering if the trinket and Eletania were far more important than a Prothean-human link. Especially given the source of the data disk/key.
She was upset about her people dieing, not about Asari history. Call it misdirected rage. It does not take long for the truth to come out once the conversation takes place.
#42542
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 10:04
Doesn't change what I said. IMHO it's OOC for Liara to be that upset by Thessia. Same goes for Shepard.Turbo_J wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
So are you like Liara in real life? I thought that was totally OOC for Liara to be so upset by that. Really stupid IMO.Turbo_J wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Turbo_J wrote...
Lokanaiya wrote...
So, nobody has anything to say about my post on the last page?
Don't feel bad. I posted a brief on my Asari origin theory and it was overlooked/ignored.
I didn't ignore it, I just silently agreed with it. Seriously, sometimes I just don't feel like posting a simple 'I agree'. Nothing personal, though.
And I think others didn't ignore it, either.
I was violently opposed to Prothean involvement in Asari development when it was revealed. It was so distasteful I uninstalled ME3, reinstalled and then blocked the From Ashes DLC from installing. Eventually I got over it, but I still hate Javik on principle. Eventually I started wondering if the trinket and Eletania were far more important than a Prothean-human link. Especially given the source of the data disk/key.
She was upset about her people dieing, not about Asari history. Call it misdirected rage. It does not take long for the truth to come out once the conversation takes place.
#42543
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 10:06
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Why would Javik lie about it then? I mean he identifies humans and asari differently.Turbo_J wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
EDIT: Okay, I'll say sth about it: This is an interesting idea. The special thing about the asari is, accroding to Thessia's temple, the asari got a special treatment from the protheans. I'm wondering how that would fit into your theory.
Taken from earth, transplanted on Thesia, modified over time by both genetic manipulation and Eezo exposure.
Wow... come on. That pattern is there, buried in the data.
Javik was born hundreds of years after the war started. He knows **** all about the past.
Earth was being watched by the Protheans for decades, if not centuries BEFORE the Reapers arrived.
#42544
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 10:07
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Doesn't change what I said. IMHO it's OOC for Liara to be that upset by Thessia. Same goes for Shepard.Turbo_J wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
So are you like Liara in real life? I thought that was totally OOC for Liara to be so upset by that. Really stupid IMO.Turbo_J wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Turbo_J wrote...
Lokanaiya wrote...
So, nobody has anything to say about my post on the last page?
Don't feel bad. I posted a brief on my Asari origin theory and it was overlooked/ignored.
I didn't ignore it, I just silently agreed with it. Seriously, sometimes I just don't feel like posting a simple 'I agree'. Nothing personal, though.
And I think others didn't ignore it, either.
I was violently opposed to Prothean involvement in Asari development when it was revealed. It was so distasteful I uninstalled ME3, reinstalled and then blocked the From Ashes DLC from installing. Eventually I got over it, but I still hate Javik on principle. Eventually I started wondering if the trinket and Eletania were far more important than a Prothean-human link. Especially given the source of the data disk/key.
She was upset about her people dieing, not about Asari history. Call it misdirected rage. It does not take long for the truth to come out once the conversation takes place.
But remember Javik's people gave the Asari Biotics, and the humans adapted to the Biotics powers even though I think javik, and his people ruled humanity out of the question for Biotic potential.
#42545
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 10:07
#42546
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 10:09
BansheeOwnage wrote...
So are you like Liara in real life? I thought that was totally OOC for Liara to be so upset by that. Really stupid IMO.Turbo_J wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Turbo_J wrote...
Lokanaiya wrote...
So, nobody has anything to say about my post on the last page?
Don't feel bad. I posted a brief on my Asari origin theory and it was overlooked/ignored.
I didn't ignore it, I just silently agreed with it. Seriously, sometimes I just don't feel like posting a simple 'I agree'. Nothing personal, though.
And I think others didn't ignore it, either.
I was violently opposed to Prothean involvement in Asari development when it was revealed. It was so distasteful I uninstalled ME3, reinstalled and then blocked the From Ashes DLC from installing. Eventually I got over it, but I still hate Javik on principle. Eventually I started wondering if the trinket and Eletania were far more important than a Prothean-human link. Especially given the source of the data disk/key.
Very. Liara's a scientist, and she's all like, "No way the Protheans could've been around any Asari 50,000 years ago, no way our goddess that most Asari don't even believe in anymore anyway was actually a Prothean. In hindsight, she sounded very much like a literalist there, and it was one of the few times I really liked Javik. Also a bit like Ashley with the whole "Cerberus, Cerberus, Cerberus!"
I like Javik as a character, he's very well written, but I, as in my Shepard, doesn't "like" him most of the time, if that makes sense. The other time I really liked him was when he trolled James
#42547
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 10:10
Turbo_J wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Why would Javik lie about it then? I mean he identifies humans and asari differently.Turbo_J wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
EDIT: Okay, I'll say sth about it: This is an interesting idea. The special thing about the asari is, accroding to Thessia's temple, the asari got a special treatment from the protheans. I'm wondering how that would fit into your theory.
Taken from earth, transplanted on Thesia, modified over time by both genetic manipulation and Eezo exposure.
Wow... come on. That pattern is there, buried in the data.
Javik was born hundreds of years after the war started. He knows **** all about the past.
Earth was being watched by the Protheans for decades, if not centuries BEFORE the Reapers arrived.
Yes but I don't think so evelution took place Turbo. javik said the salariens were reptials, and ate flys., and that the Hanar were just jellyfish in Javik's cycle.
Also javik ate Salariens, which is sick, and his favorite food is fish.
#42548
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 10:12
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Why would Javik lie about it then? I mean he identifies humans and asari differently.Turbo_J wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
EDIT: Okay, I'll say sth about it: This is an interesting idea. The special thing about the asari is, accroding to Thessia's temple, the asari got a special treatment from the protheans. I'm wondering how that would fit into your theory.
Taken from earth, transplanted on Thesia, modified over time by both genetic manipulation and Eezo exposure.
It's like identifying apes and humans. Similar but not the same. Developed differently.
#42549
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 10:12
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Doesn't change what I said. IMHO it's OOC for Liara to be that upset by Thessia. Same goes for Shepard.
I agree whole heartedly. The problem is we have no idea if the affects of Indoctrination are to blame or if Shepard's perception of events is to blame. I think the Reapers are battering on Liara's will just as much as Shepard's. They are going to try to beat down any form of support Shepard has, so this would be one way to do it.
When you see an OOC moment, it should be clue of an attack on moral, strength of will or character, etc.
#42550
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 10:13
BleedingUranium wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
So are you like Liara in real life? I thought that was totally OOC for Liara to be so upset by that. Really stupid IMO.Turbo_J wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Turbo_J wrote...
Lokanaiya wrote...
So, nobody has anything to say about my post on the last page?
Don't feel bad. I posted a brief on my Asari origin theory and it was overlooked/ignored.
I didn't ignore it, I just silently agreed with it. Seriously, sometimes I just don't feel like posting a simple 'I agree'. Nothing personal, though.
And I think others didn't ignore it, either.
I was violently opposed to Prothean involvement in Asari development when it was revealed. It was so distasteful I uninstalled ME3, reinstalled and then blocked the From Ashes DLC from installing. Eventually I got over it, but I still hate Javik on principle. Eventually I started wondering if the trinket and Eletania were far more important than a Prothean-human link. Especially given the source of the data disk/key.
Very. Liara's a scientist, and she's all like, "No way the Protheans could've been around any Asari 50,000 years ago, no way our goddess that most Asari don't even believe in anymore anyway was actually a Prothean. In hindsight, she sounded very much like a literalist there, and it was one of the few times I really liked Javik. Also a bit like Ashley with the whole "Cerberus, Cerberus, Cerberus!"
I like Javik as a character, he's very well written, but I, as in my Shepard, doesn't "like" him most of the time, if that makes sense. The other time I really liked him was when he trolled James
I agree with Javik for one thing. The Reapers are plain evil, and even with the Catalyst insane talk about the CYCLE. i really wish at that point Javik would apper on redo chanle and tell the Catalyst to f*** off.




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