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[BansheeOwnage]

BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
It says it's not but everything else says it is. All marines have it.

Which is a bizzare thing for the whole series - why tell us that its a non-military weapon, and then have it be as common as muck among soldiers?

Good question. I'm sure the people who wrote the weapon descriptions were not the same as the ones who gave people guns. Not sure. Going from descriptions, all marines should carry phalanxes.

With Valkyries as standard rifles.

And Vipers as snipers as well as Scimitars as shotguns.

And Locusts as SMGs, I'm pretty sure

I believe the Hurricane is the only SMG mentioned to be used by the Alliance.

[jgibson14352]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
It says it's not but everything else says it is. All marines have it.

Which is a bizzare thing for the whole series - why tell us that its a non-military weapon, and then have it be as common as muck among soldiers?

Good question. I'm sure the people who wrote the weapon descriptions were not the same as the ones who gave people guns. Not sure. Going from descriptions, all marines should carry phalanxes.

With Valkyries as standard rifles.

And Vipers as snipers as well as Scimitars as shotguns.

standard military firearms arent always mandatory, in 1945 marines on okinawa tended to prefer pistols like the .38 special over standard issue .45s.
that and this is in the middle of a galactic war with industrial centers and supply lines completely destroyed, i imagine they use anything they can find

[BleedingUranium]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
It says it's not but everything else says it is. All marines have it.

Which is a bizzare thing for the whole series - why tell us that its a non-military weapon, and then have it be as common as muck among soldiers?

Good question. I'm sure the people who wrote the weapon descriptions were not the same as the ones who gave people guns. Not sure. Going from descriptions, all marines should carry phalanxes.

Either that or its Bioware being mega-subtle and saying 'don't trust everything the Journal tells you'.  Or maybe a more general 'don't trust what anyone says'.

/tinfoil

I think it all relates to the symbology of the Predator and the Carnifex. Which in quite subtle.

For anyone that knows real firearms, the Predator is pretty much ME's Glock 17: used by pretty much everyone but military forces, very common. I can't explain the rest of the characters, like random Marines, but the Predator is very much Shep's personal sidearm, like Captain Price's signature M1911 in COD4.

[BleedingUranium]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
It says it's not but everything else says it is. All marines have it.

Which is a bizzare thing for the whole series - why tell us that its a non-military weapon, and then have it be as common as muck among soldiers?

Good question. I'm sure the people who wrote the weapon descriptions were not the same as the ones who gave people guns. Not sure. Going from descriptions, all marines should carry phalanxes.

With Valkyries as standard rifles.

And Vipers as snipers as well as Scimitars as shotguns.

And Locusts as SMGs, I'm pretty sure

I believe the Hurricane is the only SMG mentioned to be used by the Alliance.

Right, the Locust was developed by the Alliance, but wasn't used for very long. It did, however, become very popular with criminals and mercs. Pretty much exactly the same story as the real life MAC-10.

[marcelo_sdk]

BW said that they would not change the endings in EC, but in fact they added a new one. For me, it changes a lot of things about the endings. So, when they say they'll not change the endings, don't take it as fact.

Modifié par marcelo_sdk, 10 juillet 2012 - 01:50 .

[Andromidius]

BleedingUranium wrote...

For anyone that knows real firearms, the Predator is pretty much ME's Glock 17: used by pretty much everyone but military forces, very common. I can't explain the rest of the characters, like random Marines, but the Predator is very much Shep's personal sidearm, like Captain Price's signature M1911 in COD4.

Fair enough if its his own personal gun.  But its everywhere!  Not to mention later on Anderson has a Carnifex - a somewhat more expensive and rare weapon.  Where'd be pick it up?

Mind you, I'm starting to think that maybe all the soldiers on Earth are indoctrinated by the time we get back there with the allied fleet.  Its never even hinted at as to how they survived for so long without succuming to indoctrination.

Its all so weird.  And I'm exhausted.

[Nightingale]

I've been gone for two days and I seem to have missed 40-50 pages...Did I miss anything interesting?

[BansheeOwnage]

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BW said that they would not change the endings in EC, but in fact they added a new one. For me, it changes a lot of things about the endings. So, when they say they'll not change the endings, don't take it as fact.

As well as a lot of other stuff they say like this:

“There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How
could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t
say any more than that…”

Or this: “For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of the
universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in
Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different
based on what you would do in those situations.”

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 10 juillet 2012 - 01:53 .

[BansheeOwnage]

DrTsoni wrote...

I've been gone for two days and I seem to have missed 40-50 pages...Did I miss anything interesting?

Welcome back! Nothing major but take a look at my pictures from last page.

Edit: BW said they can't comment on whether their planned DLC is pre or post endings.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 10 juillet 2012 - 01:55 .

[BleedingUranium]

Andromidius wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

For anyone that knows real firearms, the Predator is pretty much ME's Glock 17: used by pretty much everyone but military forces, very common. I can't explain the rest of the characters, like random Marines, but the Predator is very much Shep's personal sidearm, like Captain Price's signature M1911 in COD4.

Fair enough if its his own personal gun.  But its everywhere!  Not to mention later on Anderson has a Carnifex - a somewhat more expensive and rare weapon.  Where'd be pick it up?

Mind you, I'm starting to think that maybe all the soldiers on Earth are indoctrinated by the time we get back there with the allied fleet.  Its never even hinted at as to how they survived for so long without succuming to indoctrination.

Its all so weird.  And I'm exhausted.

Yeah, like I said, I don't really know about the rest.

I am almost sure Coats is indoctrinated, and it's likely Anderson is too.

-On Earth for so long
-Weird convo on the shuttle
-"I was born in London" might be a clue that this "new person", the indoctrinated version of Anderson, was "created" in London
-Having a very, veeeery awesome goodbye scene with him, even though it was just your memory of him. You got to say goodbye to the Anderson you knew, which would make the real Anderson being indoctrinated more likely from a writing point of view. It'd be okay because it wouldn't really be Anderson anymore, and we got to say goodbye to the "real" one.

[masster blaster]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

So, some stuff for the ending sequence:



*The helmet removed from
Coates is confirmed as not a standard bit of uniform for marines - the
files actually identify it as Kaidan's helmet, but it's also Shepard's
one, and the animation for the Keeper removing it from Coates identifies the helmet as Shepard's...

If I'm reading that right the child's animations are named "Guardian". This is very curious, as Merizan referred to him and the Guardian, and it never says "Catalyst" the the subtitles. It simply says "Child". They didn't even pull off a Legion and change the subtitles after he says "I am the catalyst from "Child" to "Catalyst". Weird.

This is...is a great news!

[invetro]

I just started a new playthrough today, and while in Vancouver, just after the vent scene, I left my game running at the next dialogue wheel with Anderson while I went to do something. I noticed the screen bob that is present in London was there. Every dialogue wheel screen after Vancouver is stationary from what I can see. Might have a browse on youtube when I get a minute to check it out.

The main screen bob happens after the FOB, right?

I was also contemplating if the destroyer in London was outputting any indoctrination signals after it "died" since Shep and co drive right under one of its legs to get to the beam.

[BansheeOwnage]

invetro wrote...

I just started a new playthrough today, and while in Vancouver, just after the vent scene, I left my game running at the next dialogue wheel with Anderson while I went to do something. I noticed the screen bob that is present in London was there. Every dialogue wheel screen after Vancouver is stationary from what I can see. Might have a browse on youtube when I get a minute to check it out.

The main screen bob happens after the FOB, right?

I was also contemplating if the destroyer in London was outputting any indoctrination signals after it "died" since Shep and co drive right under one of its legs to get to the beam.

I've noticed  a lot of similarities between London and Vancouver recently. Let us know what you find.

[invetro]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Yeah, like I said, I don't really know about the rest.

I am almost sure Coats is indoctrinated, and it's likely Anderson is too.

-On Earth for so long
-Weird convo on the shuttle
-"I was born in London" might be a clue that this "new person", the indoctrinated version of Anderson, was "created" in London
-Having a very, veeeery awesome goodbye scene with him, even though it was just your memory of him. You got to say goodbye to the Anderson you knew, which would make the real Anderson being indoctrinated more likely from a writing point of view. It'd be okay because it wouldn't really be Anderson anymore, and we got to say goodbye to the "real" one.

On the whole born in London bit. The dead reaper in ME2 was causing indocrinated victims to remember the same things, yes? Maybe he is remembering things from his London squadmates memories.

[GethPrimeMKII]

Now that I think of it, I suppose Coates could be indoctrinated. Before I thought it impossible til I remembered him supporting the idea to charge the beam. Coates stood back while the alliance ground forces charged towards Harbinger. It makes sense.

The data pad on earth suggests that the beam changes people into what can only be assumed to be husks. They come back...changed. Makes sense for an indoctrinated traitor to lead everyone to certain death and/or reaper-fication.

[masster blaster]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I've been reading the Mass Effect "Fridge" page today (here), and found another sad thing like the Joker's sister one we all (hopefully) have heard.

In ME2 during Tali's mission on the Alarei, there is a log of a quarian's last few seconds before she's killed by the geth. She says, "Tell Jona to be good for his father." Cut to Rannoch in ME3 as the quarians attempt to retake their home. A dying male quarian leaves a final message: "Tell Jona his father died on the homeworld."

Yes Mass Effect 3 is very good at being heart wrenching. The lose of some squadmates was done so well I had to stop playing till I calmed down

Ya like the blue rose of illuam and how her boyfriend died during the rachin mission with Grunt.

And Kal Reeger dying in helping the Turians at Palavian.

And many more people you can help in ME1 and ME2.

[GethPrimeMKII]

Speaking of London/Vancouver similaries. Vancouver's hold the line segment VS several dozen cannibals is somewhat similar to Shep and co. holding off reapers at the thanix missle site.

[masster blaster]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Now that I think of it, I suppose Coates could be indoctrinated. Before I thought it impossible til I remembered him supporting the idea to charge the beam. Coates stood back while the alliance ground forces charged towards Harbinger. It makes sense.

The data pad on earth suggests that the beam changes people into what can only be assumed to be husks. They come back...changed. Makes sense for an indoctrinated traitor to lead everyone to certain death and/or reaper-fication.

Anderson did not run with Shepard to the beam too. He stayed behind and did nothing, but I can't comfirm that Anderson is not running because he is not running to the Beam.

Also only Alliance Soldiers are present, not Hammer, which was suppost to carry out the run to the Beam assult.

Modifié par masster blaster, 10 juillet 2012 - 02:17 .

[BleedingUranium]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Speaking of London/Vancouver similaries. Vancouver's hold the line segment VS several dozen cannibals is somewhat similar to Shep and co. holding off reapers at the thanix missle site.

Same music too

[BansheeOwnage]

masster blaster wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I've been reading the Mass Effect "Fridge" page today (here), and found another sad thing like the Joker's sister one we all (hopefully) have heard.

In ME2 during Tali's mission on the Alarei, there is a log of a quarian's last few seconds before she's killed by the geth. She says, "Tell Jona to be good for his father." Cut to Rannoch in ME3 as the quarians attempt to retake their home. A dying male quarian leaves a final message: "Tell Jona his father died on the homeworld."

Yes Mass Effect 3 is very good at being heart wrenching. The lose of some squadmates was done so well I had to stop playing till I calmed down

Ya like the blue rose of illuam and how her boyfriend died during the rachin mission with Grunt.

And Kal Reeger dying in helping the Turians at Palavian.

And many more people you can help in ME1 and ME2.

Yeah. I was expecting a cameo of Kal'Reeger. Wtf Bioware? Or you know Harbinger.

[masster blaster]

BleedingUranium wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Speaking of London/Vancouver similaries. Vancouver's hold the line segment VS several dozen cannibals is somewhat similar to Shep and co. holding off reapers at the thanix missle site.

Same music too

And husk opening door scene.

[invetro]

Also, in London, in the room where the reaper forces are seen using allied stationary weapons for the first time ever, there's a skeleton on the bed. I am only now finding that quite strange. Why wasn't this dead person carted off and used as reaper goo? As well as the black stuff that has seeped out of the walls all over London. You can see it coming down from the ceilings in that same building. It looks similar to the black goo in the Citadel, only static.

[Leonardo the Magnificent]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Now that I think of it, I suppose Coates could be indoctrinated. Before I thought it impossible til I remembered him supporting the idea to charge the beam. Coates stood back while the alliance ground forces charged towards Harbinger. It makes sense.

The data pad on earth suggests that the beam changes people into what can only be assumed to be husks. They come back...changed. Makes sense for an indoctrinated traitor to lead everyone to certain death and/or reaper-fication.

Erm, no, I'm almost 100% sure that the datapad was referencing a Reaper processing station. Would anyone happen to have immediate or convenient access to the text?

[DirtyPhoenix]

When is SDCC?

[masster blaster]

Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Now that I think of it, I suppose Coates could be indoctrinated. Before I thought it impossible til I remembered him supporting the idea to charge the beam. Coates stood back while the alliance ground forces charged towards Harbinger. It makes sense.

The data pad on earth suggests that the beam changes people into what can only be assumed to be husks. They come back...changed. Makes sense for an indoctrinated traitor to lead everyone to certain death and/or reaper-fication.

Erm, no, I'm almost 100% sure that the datapad was referencing a Reaper processing station. Would anyone happen to have immediate or convenient access to the text?

Nope it's in the place where you meet Liara, and he explains that they were going to scout the Conduit, but came back with voices in there heads.