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[byne]

lex0r11 wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Banshee you are on it everyone is but me. I checked it twice not one little thing but everyone else is on there.

There, I put you on there too.

But thats the last edit I'm gonna make to the list. I didnt come up with it, so I dont feel right editing it.



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Anyone below this line that tells me their name isnt on the list will have been too late. As Mr. Woo would say, end of line.

It was this guy FYI.





Although he said he would never kill on Christmas.

I know who made the list, who do you think stickied the memorial wall thread in the group discussion?

[BansheeOwnage]

leonia42 wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Well, I think Barla Von just totally convinced me Glyph is the Shadow Broker.

"...yet somehow he (the Shadow Broker) never seems to upset the natural balance of power. All those secrets even out. Nobody ends up with an advantage in the end." - order out of chaos.

"I have a theory that it's actually an entire group working under one identity. How else could they juggle so many contacts at one time? How else could they keep all that information from getting crossed? But they've got the perfect setup. Every government is forced to play their game so they don't get left behind. But no matter how long you play the game, no matter how many secrets you buy, you can never win."

This is the job of an AI... it's also another example of order out of chaos and a method of controlling species progress and development.

Do you ever get the feeling that there's way more foreshadowing in ME1 than we could ever have expected? Somewhat tempted to start a fresh game and play through from the very beginning onwards. Of course it could just be a case of seeing what we want to see but it's hard to ignore a lot of dialogue outright.

There is definitely some on ME1. But probably a lot more in ME2 just because it's newer/ they knew what they were going to do.
Harbinger - "STRUGGLE IF YOU WISH - YOUR MIND WILL BE MINE." What do you make of that?

[Nightingale]

Turbo_J wrote...

Cookie Monster killed the thread...

Repost on topic.

Turbo_J wrote...

Well, I think Barla Von just totally convinced me Glyph is the Shadow Broker.

"...yet somehow he (the Shadow Broker) never seems to upset the natural balance of power. All those secrets even out. Nobody ends up with an advantage in the end." - order out of chaos.

"I have a theory that it's actually an entire group working under one identity. How else could they juggle so many contacts at one time? How else could they keep all that information from getting crossed? But they've got the perfect setup. Every government is forced to play their game so they don't get left behind. But no matter how long you play the game, no matter how many secrets you buy, you can never win."

This is the job of an AI... it's also another example of order out of chaos and a method of controlling species progress and development.

I think most of the major contributers are offline atm and everyone else is...I don't know, waiting for SDCC?

Anyway, it's an interesting theory. I think it's a good parallel representation of what the Reapers are to galactic civilization but I don't know that I'd go so far as to say that Glyph is the Shadow Broker. Perhaps manipulating the organic that claims that title, maybe claiming to be a VI instead of an AI like EDI did, but I don't think that it controls everything. Influencing the Shadow Broker through what information is brought to the forefront of the feeds is obviously going to change things, but I still think there's someone else acting as the..."face" of the Shadow Broker, and therefore still has some control over what's broadcast to their forces and what information is sold to whom.
Of course, if this VI/AI is working for the Reapers, it would explain why, as Liara mentioned in the DLC, the SB was investigating the Protheans...

[BansheeOwnage]

lex0r11 wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Banshee you are on it everyone is but me. I checked it twice not one little thing but everyone else is on there.

There, I put you on there too.

But thats the last edit I'm gonna make to the list. I didnt come up with it, so I dont feel right editing it.



_______________________________________________________________________________________________

Anyone below this line that tells me their name isnt on the list will have been too late. As Mr. Woo would say, end of line.

It was this guy FYI.





Although he said he would never kill on Christmas.

I'll indulge my own ego:

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 10 juillet 2012 - 06:40 .

[Leonia]

And it wouldn't be the first time Liara missed the obvious staring her in the face, which seems to be a bit of a trend. Scientists tend to do that, always missing the bigger picture because they focus too heavily on the smaller details. I'm not sure what to believe in regards to Glyph but the theory does fit nicely with what we know of the Reapers and their methods of control.

[BansheeOwnage]

DrTsoni wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Cookie Monster killed the thread...

Repost on topic.

Turbo_J wrote...

Well, I think Barla Von just totally convinced me Glyph is the Shadow Broker.

"...yet somehow he (the Shadow Broker) never seems to upset the natural balance of power. All those secrets even out. Nobody ends up with an advantage in the end." - order out of chaos.

"I have a theory that it's actually an entire group working under one identity. How else could they juggle so many contacts at one time? How else could they keep all that information from getting crossed? But they've got the perfect setup. Every government is forced to play their game so they don't get left behind. But no matter how long you play the game, no matter how many secrets you buy, you can never win."

This is the job of an AI... it's also another example of order out of chaos and a method of controlling species progress and development.

I think most of the major contributers are offline atm and everyone else is...I don't know, waiting for SDCC?

Yeah I mentioned that before you showed up. I think everyone has kind of "turned off" before SDCC.

[byne]

BansheeOwnage wrote...


I'll indulge my own ego:

I have 176 of these that would beg to differ:

[Nightingale]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Well, I think Barla Von just totally convinced me Glyph is the Shadow Broker.

"...yet somehow he (the Shadow Broker) never seems to upset the natural balance of power. All those secrets even out. Nobody ends up with an advantage in the end." - order out of chaos.

"I have a theory that it's actually an entire group working under one identity. How else could they juggle so many contacts at one time? How else could they keep all that information from getting crossed? But they've got the perfect setup. Every government is forced to play their game so they don't get left behind. But no matter how long you play the game, no matter how many secrets you buy, you can never win."

This is the job of an AI... it's also another example of order out of chaos and a method of controlling species progress and development.

Do you ever get the feeling that there's way more foreshadowing in ME1 than we could ever have expected? Somewhat tempted to start a fresh game and play through from the very beginning onwards. Of course it could just be a case of seeing what we want to see but it's hard to ignore a lot of dialogue outright.

There is definitely some on ME1. But probably a lot more in ME2 just because it's newer/ they knew what they were going to do.
Harbinger - "STRUGGLE IF YOU WISH - YOUR MIND WILL BE MINE." What do you make of that?

Harby wants Shepard's body, too, though. I think it just had a terrible way of proposing.

Seriously though, there is quite a lot that points at several things in ME3, not just indoctrination. Of course, some of it was dropped (like Dark Energy) and now it's just confusing...but lines like that can't just be brushed off, especially considering some of what's said explains why only certain species were harvested in ME3 and others were not. Among other things, of course, but I'm off for the night so I'm done...talking circles and not contributing anything useful

Night, guys.

[shepdog77]

LOL @IndocTheory

[lex0r11]

byne wrote...

[...]

I know who made the list, who do you think stickied the memorial wall thread in the group discussion? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

Scratch FYI, I meant for everyone else.

BansheeOwnage wrote...

[...]

I'll indulge my own ego:

Uuhh, overconfidence might kill you instead.


This one is no joke!

[BansheeOwnage]

DrTsoni wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Well, I think Barla Von just totally convinced me Glyph is the Shadow Broker.

"...yet somehow he (the Shadow Broker) never seems to upset the natural balance of power. All those secrets even out. Nobody ends up with an advantage in the end." - order out of chaos.

"I have a theory that it's actually an entire group working under one identity. How else could they juggle so many contacts at one time? How else could they keep all that information from getting crossed? But they've got the perfect setup. Every government is forced to play their game so they don't get left behind. But no matter how long you play the game, no matter how many secrets you buy, you can never win."

This is the job of an AI... it's also another example of order out of chaos and a method of controlling species progress and development.

Do you ever get the feeling that there's way more foreshadowing in ME1 than we could ever have expected? Somewhat tempted to start a fresh game and play through from the very beginning onwards. Of course it could just be a case of seeing what we want to see but it's hard to ignore a lot of dialogue outright.

There is definitely some on ME1. But probably a lot more in ME2 just because it's newer/ they knew what they were going to do.
Harbinger - "STRUGGLE IF YOU WISH - YOUR MIND WILL BE MINE." What do you make of that?

Harby wants Shepard's body, too, though. I think it just had a terrible way of proposing.

Seriously though, there is quite a lot that points at several things in ME3, not just indoctrination. Of course, some of it was dropped (like Dark Energy) and now it's just confusing...but lines like that can't just be brushed off, especially considering some of what's said explains why only certain species were harvested in ME3 and others were not. Among other things, of course, but I'm off for the night so I'm done...talking circles and not contributing anything useful

Night, guys.

I just think this one is more important because they were developing ME3 while they made Arrival. And I'm gonna go to bed too so goodnight.

[BansheeOwnage]

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...


I'll indulge my own ego:

I have 176 of these that would beg to differ:

You win...this round. I'll be back. - Sarge

[byne]

shepdog77 wrote...

LOL @IndocTheory

Even though I know the text is what you're trying to annoy me with, your avatar of Khalisah is what actually annoyed me.

[BansheeOwnage]

shepdog77 wrote...

LOL @IndocTheory

LOL @ Khalisah Bint Sinan Al-jilani avatar. No further comments are required.

Edit: Byne stop typing faster than me

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 10 juillet 2012 - 06:52 .

[Rosewind]

lex0r11 wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Banshee you are on it everyone is but me. I checked it twice not one little thing but everyone else is on there.

There, I put you on there too.

But thats the last edit I'm gonna make to the list. I didnt come up with it, so I dont feel right editing it.



_______________________________________________________________________________________________

Anyone below this line that tells me their name isnt on the list will have been too late. As Mr. Woo would say, end of line.

It was this guy FYI.





Although he said he would never kill on Christmas.

Arian is the shadow you see in the corner of your eye, the tap at your window on a windy night, the dark mass under your bed.
Beware he will get you when you least expect it!

[Nightingale]

BansheeOwnage wrote...
I just think this one is more important because they were developing ME3 while they made Arrival. And I'm gonna go to bed too so goodnight.

Oh? I didn't realize that was Arrival-specific. Harbinger sexually harasses Shepard so often, you just start tuning it out...
But yeah, we already know they were planning indoctrination at one point. This was likely part of it, and they never said they cut indoctrination out entirely, just that segment where we lose control of Shepard.

TL;DR - You're right, definitely significant, goodnight

[BansheeOwnage]

DrTsoni wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
I just think this one is more important because they were developing ME3 while they made Arrival. And I'm gonna go to bed too so goodnight.

Oh? I didn't realize that was Arrival-specific. Harbinger sexually harasses Shepard so often, you just start tuning it out...
But yeah, we already know they were planning indoctrination at one point. This was likely part of it, and they never said they cut indoctrination out entirely, just that segment where we lose control of Shepard.

TL;DR - You're right, definitely significant, goodnight

PRESERVE SHEPARD'S BODY.  ಠಠಠ_ಠಠಠ

[Leonia]

An easy way to take away control of Shepard is to force us to play as another character, even for a short segment like in ME2. But I wonder if they would go that route or if maybe they found another solution for that little problem.

[BansheeOwnage]

leonia42 wrote...

An easy way to take away control of Shepard is to force us to play as another character, even for a short segment like in ME2. But I wonder if they would go that route or if maybe they found another solution for that little problem.

Never thought of taking control like joker. It would be fitting for an indoctrinated Shep (who is basically the player).
ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL OF YOUR SQUADMATE.

[Lyria]

Congrats on 4000+ pages.

[lex0r11]

byne wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

LOL @IndocTheory

Even though I know the text is what you're trying to annoy me with, your avatar of Khalisah is what actually annoyed me.

[BansheeOwnage]

protognosis wrote...

Congrats on 4000+ pages.

Thanks!

[BansheeOwnage]

lex0r11 wrote...

byne wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

LOL @IndocTheory

Even though I know the text is what you're trying to annoy me with, your avatar of Khalisah is what actually annoyed me.

Thanks lex! Also, ME3 is their only linked game. How surprising...

[lex0r11]

Rosewind wrote...

[...]

Arian is the shadow you see in the corner of your eye, the tap at your window on a windy night, the dark mass under your bed.
Beware he will get you when you least expect it!

And if the Wall doesn't kill you, he will just kill you in a fencing duel.

[byne]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Thanks lex! Also, ME3 is their only linked game. How surprising...

Speaking of linked games, what is the broze-ish Dragon Age symbol? Awakening? If so, why dont I have it? I have Awakening...