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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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#42951
lex0r11

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mass perfection wrote...

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Insulting me?Average IT'er behavior.




mass perfection wrote...

People still believe this nonsense?


'Nuff said.

Modifié par lex0r11, 10 juillet 2012 - 08:29 .


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mass perfection wrote...

Insulting me?Average IT'er behavior.


How did he insult you? Do you seriously take every facepalm as a personal insult?

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lex0r11 wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

[...]

Insulting me?Average IT'er behavior.




mass perfection wrote...

People still believe this nonsense?


'Nuff said.

What are you talking about?

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byne wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

Insulting me?Average IT'er behavior.


How did he insult you? Do you seriously take every facepalm as a personal insult?

The fact that he can't answer my question is.

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mass perfection wrote...

byne wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

Insulting me?Average IT'er behavior.


How did he insult you? Do you seriously take every facepalm as a personal insult?

The fact that he can't answer my question is.

He's got the Poker Face.

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How come you only get Destroy if you have low EMS and destroyed the Collector Base?

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mass perfection wrote...

byne wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

Insulting me?Average IT'er behavior.


How did he insult you? Do you seriously take every facepalm as a personal insult?

The fact that he can't answer my question is.


Not answering a question is an insult now?

I must have insulted literally everyone in this thread at one point, then.

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byne wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

byne wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

Insulting me?Average IT'er behavior.


How did he insult you? Do you seriously take every facepalm as a personal insult?

The fact that he can't answer my question is.


Not answering a question is an insult now?

I must have insulted literally everyone in this thread at one point, then.

I've asked a legit question right above you.

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mass perfection wrote...

How come you only get Destroy if you have low EMS and destroyed the Collector Base?


Because you're still going to die anyways. No use having an indoctrinated dead body.

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byne wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

How come you only get Destroy if you have low EMS and destroyed the Collector Base?


Because you're still going to die anyways. No use having an indoctrinated dead body.

Then how come you only get Control if you have low EMS and chose to save the Collector Base?

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Would have liked to see a Shep-Sarenlike lizard thingy xD

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May I assume english is not your main language? If yes, just ignore the rest.

My whole point was that you came in here with a rhetorical question that is making fun of everyone in the thread. The combination of both is mocking. So you will get mocking answers in return, it's only normal.

Next time just start like you do now with your EMS questions, no harm done. Serious questions are taken seriously.

If you don't see the insulting nature of your sentence, I hope it is because of a language thing.

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mass perfection wrote...

byne wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

How come you only get Destroy if you have low EMS and destroyed the Collector Base?


Because you're still going to die anyways. No use having an indoctrinated dead body.

Then how come you only get Control if you have low EMS and chose to save the Collector Base?


I figure if you agree that using the Reapers' tech for your own ends is a good idea, it would be less of a strain on your mind to indoctrinate you.

Its possible even with low EMS they could indoctrinate you without destroying your mind or killing you at that point.

Someone else probably has a better explanation than me, as I'm half asleep at this point, and barely able to string a sentence together.

On that note: Its 4:40am, and I have to be up at 8:30am, so I'm off to try and get at least some sleep tonight.

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Lex0r doesn't really answer things he more like the IT Thread master cheerleader or something.

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Either Control or Destroy only is explained somewhere on Paroblee's (or how's it written) blog. But I can't find it right now. And English is not my mother tongue so givin' it with my own words would just end in an misunderstanding mess.
When I find it, I'll show you the explanation.

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Another question.

How come you don't wake up in all of the endings?If you picked Control or Synthesis,you should wake up indoctrinated.In Destroy,you should wake up not indoctrinated.

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UltimateTobi wrote...

Either Control or Destroy only is explained somewhere on Paroblee's (or how's it written) blog. But I can't find it right now. And English is not my mother tongue so givin' it with my own words would just end in an misunderstanding mess.
When I find it, I'll show you the explanation.

Please do.

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Rosewind wrote...

Lex0r doesn't really answer things he more like the IT Thread master cheerleader or something.

I've already figured that out.

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mass perfection wrote...

Another question.

How come you don't wake up in all of the endings?If you picked Control or Synthesis,you should wake up indoctrinated.In Destroy,you should wake up not indoctrinated.


Maybe because that would make it too obvious to the player??

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mass perfection wrote...

Another question.

How come you don't wake up in all of the endings?If you picked Control or Synthesis,you should wake up indoctrinated.In Destroy,you should wake up not indoctrinated.


Because if they showed you waking up in those ending it will be a HUGE give away, they want us to speculate and talking about it they said so them selves and if they add those scene to them it would spoil the magic you could say.

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pirate1802 wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

Another question.

How come you don't wake up in all of the endings?If you picked Control or Synthesis,you should wake up indoctrinated.In Destroy,you should wake up not indoctrinated.


Maybe because that would make it too obvious to the player??

Haven't they already done so?Look at how many people support the theory.

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mass perfection wrote...

Another question.

How come you don't wake up in all of the endings?If you picked Control or Synthesis,you should wake up indoctrinated.In Destroy,you should wake up not indoctrinated.

Waking up indoctrinated would be too obvious wouldn't it?
It's based on EMS and I assume EMS is more of a will-thingy to proceed instead of the galaxy war readiness. Sure it's that too, but it also shows that Shepard is more strong-willed.
Hence more option to fool Shepard into the wrong decision, resulting him in being indoctrinated. Because is just worth being indoctrinated when he's still capable of proceeding. A Shepard who's a wreck and going to die anyways is of no use. And a small fleet can easily be destroyed by the Reapers anyways. A big fleet, like with high EMS, is not. And an indoctrinated Shepard would give a major blast to the galaxy, demoralizing them.
Or, if Shepard retuns like nothing happened, he could just retreat the fleets, etc. Things indoc. agents do.
So high EMS in Destroy = more willpower to survive + more time bought by Hammer (which is more strong in numbers the higher the EMS is) to actually wake up. If there were no allied forces, Shepard could've just be killed by Reaper forces in the rubble.
Control/Synthesis = indoctrinated, hence no awakening for the better.

And well, I think you see what a garbled mess I wrote down there and I bet you got no word from what I said. So don't push me into explaining. Someone else might've gotten it better. ;)

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Rosewind wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

Another question.

How come you don't wake up in all of the endings?If you picked Control or Synthesis,you should wake up indoctrinated.In Destroy,you should wake up not indoctrinated.


Because if they showed you waking up in those ending it will be a HUGE give away, they want us to speculate and talking about it they said so them selves and if they add those scene to them it would spoil the magic you could say.

It should have been in the game in the first place rather than have me wait a couple months to recieve DLC that explains it all.

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There is no waking up in indoctrination when it's finished, your mind is gone. Replaced by Reaper OS.

If your talking about gameplay or waking up when indoctrination is still taking place, that's something else entirely.

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UltimateTobi wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

Another question.

How come you don't wake up in all of the endings?If you picked Control or Synthesis,you should wake up indoctrinated.In Destroy,you should wake up not indoctrinated.

Waking up indoctrinated would be too obvious wouldn't it?
It's based on EMS and I assume EMS is more of a will-thingy to proceed instead of the galaxy war readiness. Sure it's that too, but it also shows that Shepard is more strong-willed.
Hence more option to fool Shepard into the wrong decision, resulting him in being indoctrinated. Because is just worth being indoctrinated when he's still capable of proceeding. A Shepard who's a wreck and going to die anyways is of no use. And a small fleet can easily be destroyed by the Reapers anyways. A big fleet, like with high EMS, is not. And an indoctrinated Shepard would give a major blast to the galaxy, demoralizing them.
Or, if Shepard retuns like nothing happened, he could just retreat the fleets, etc. Things indoc. agents do.
So high EMS in Destroy = more willpower to survive + more time bought by Hammer (which is more strong in numbers the higher the EMS is) to actually wake up. If there were no allied forces, Shepard could've just be killed by Reaper forces in the rubble.
Control/Synthesis = indoctrinated, hence no awakening for the better.

And well, I think you see what a garbled mess I wrote down there and I bet you got no word from what I said. So don't push me into explaining. Someone else might've gotten it better. ;)

Indoctrination takes over anyone.It's not sentient.Why would it indoctrinate those Salarians?They were obviously useless.The only control Reapers have over their indoctrination is speeding it up or slowing it down.