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PVP would be ****e

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Finally.... I had to upload the images to my content and than link it here. What a pain... anyway here is the Normandy crew indoctrinated if you fail at Arrival. This is what the reapers want, not just Shepard but his whole crew, gotta catch em all!

Edit: This is why the reapers did not shoot at the Normandy, and this is why Harbinger just watched the Normandy fly away. Harbinger knows he'll get the rest of Shepard's crew later... and with an indoctrinated crew with Shepard at the helm game over man, game over.

Modifié par smokingotter1, 10 juillet 2012 - 02:56 .


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They want Dr. Chakwas' extraordinary brandy-consumption ability. + a bottle of '47 Thessia Red from TIM.

Modifié par paxxton, 10 juillet 2012 - 02:59 .


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MaximizedAction wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

The Earth MP DLC was leaked long ago and we're pretty sure that the next event is intended to coincide with it (as has happened with previous MP DLCs) and it will be available at SDCC. But I wouldn't mind hearing more ideas about the integration of MP with the SP story, I mean if we don't adopt IT then there can't be any more MP DLC beyond Earth, right? And that doesn't seem likely so.. something has to happen.


I read some speculations on the Twitter Thread about pvp. But I'm still hoping for Reapers in the map backgrounds.

Other than that, I think that we're still pretty much following Arians theory.

If the leak about this mp pack is true, then that means this is going to be the first mp dlc where:
-All of the new characters are one species
-Rio is the first map we haven't seen/visited in sp

Resurgance also came out around the time of PAX East, right?
Does anyone know if Bioware showcased it there?
Or Rebellion, for that matter, but I don't think it came out when there were any conventions Bioware was visiting.

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Shepard really can't do much alone and the reapers know that. Shepard is almost always with a squad, depends on his team for hacking/intelligence/travel. Hell the moment Shepard loses the Normandy he dies (ME2 beginning). If Shepard is to be valuable to the reapers he's going to need the Normandy. Cerberus knew that.

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ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

The Earth MP DLC was leaked long ago and we're pretty sure that the next event is intended to coincide with it (as has happened with previous MP DLCs) and it will be available at SDCC. But I wouldn't mind hearing more ideas about the integration of MP with the SP story, I mean if we don't adopt IT then there can't be any more MP DLC beyond Earth, right? And that doesn't seem likely so.. something has to happen.


I read some speculations on the Twitter Thread about pvp. But I'm still hoping for Reapers in the map backgrounds.

Other than that, I think that we're still pretty much following Arians theory.

If the leak about this mp pack is true, then that means this is going to be the first mp dlc where:
-All of the new characters are one species
-Rio is the first map we haven't seen/visited in sp

Resurgance also came out around the time of PAX East, right?
Does anyone know if Bioware showcased it there?
Or Rebellion, for that matter, but I don't think it came out when there were any conventions Bioware was visiting.


This sums up how I feel about SDCC...



Edit:  This part more specifically:  http://www.youtube.c...bvFckptY#t=156s

Modifié par D.Sharrah, 10 juillet 2012 - 03:08 .


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paxxton wrote...

They want Dr. Chakwas' extraordinary brandy-consumption ability. + a bottle of '47 Thessia Red from TIM.


TIL the reapers just want to get drunk.

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D.Sharrah wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

The Earth MP DLC was leaked long ago and we're pretty sure that the next event is intended to coincide with it (as has happened with previous MP DLCs) and it will be available at SDCC. But I wouldn't mind hearing more ideas about the integration of MP with the SP story, I mean if we don't adopt IT then there can't be any more MP DLC beyond Earth, right? And that doesn't seem likely so.. something has to happen.


I read some speculations on the Twitter Thread about pvp. But I'm still hoping for Reapers in the map backgrounds.

Other than that, I think that we're still pretty much following Arians theory.

If the leak about this mp pack is true, then that means this is going to be the first mp dlc where:
-All of the new characters are one species
-Rio is the first map we haven't seen/visited in sp

Resurgance also came out around the time of PAX East, right?
Does anyone know if Bioware showcased it there?
Or Rebellion, for that matter, but I don't think it came out when there were any conventions Bioware was visiting.


This sums up how I feel about SDCC...


We'll all be putting on our best negligees this tuesday.

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If MP gets merged with SP, i.e. coop campaign, I'll be on the roll!

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smokingotter1 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

They want Dr. Chakwas' extraordinary brandy-consumption ability. + a bottle of '47 Thessia Red from TIM.


TIL the reapers just want to get drunk.

You know, that might be the basis of a new theory on the Reapers' motives! Posted Image jk

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twitter.com/BioEvilChris/status/222698637761855488
Wha

Modifié par LtBehemoth, 10 juillet 2012 - 03:38 .


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UltimateTobi

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LtBehemoth wrote...

twitter.com/BioEvilChris/status/222698637761855488
Wha

Phu, I thought it was something terrible. xD

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LtBehemoth wrote...

twitter.com/BioEvilChris/status/222698637761855488
Wha


Can't...hold it...too....much awesomeness these weeks!

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Guys, you remember the official launch trailer which showed the conduit area with Liara at background saying "this is it, isn't it?" in the very end, hinting us to focus on that specific scene like it is a plot moving device? Just saying:innocent:

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ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

The Earth MP DLC was leaked long ago and we're pretty sure that the next event is intended to coincide with it (as has happened with previous MP DLCs) and it will be available at SDCC. But I wouldn't mind hearing more ideas about the integration of MP with the SP story, I mean if we don't adopt IT then there can't be any more MP DLC beyond Earth, right? And that doesn't seem likely so.. something has to happen.


I read some speculations on the Twitter Thread about pvp. But I'm still hoping for Reapers in the map backgrounds.

Other than that, I think that we're still pretty much following Arians theory.

If the leak about this mp pack is true, then that means this is going to be the first mp dlc where:
-All of the new characters are one species
-Rio is the first map we haven't seen/visited in sp

Resurgance also came out around the time of PAX East, right?
Does anyone know if Bioware showcased it there?
Or Rebellion, for that matter, but I don't think it came out when there were any conventions Bioware was visiting.


Why choose Rio? Jacob. I'm hoping they show us what actually happened to that bar. Probably would be destroyed (Fridge Horror).

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Silhouett3 wrote...

Guys, you remember the official launch trailer which showed the conduit area with Liara at background saying "this is it, isn't it?" in the very end, hinting us to focus on that specific scene like it is a plot moving device? Just saying:innocent:

Yeah, I remember it well. I thought it was in another galaxy (like if Shepard had to travel into dark space to destroy some Reaper mind center). You know, that would be epic to have a chance to leave the Milky Way and go into the unknown territory of the enemy. Imagine what secrets you could uncover. Just wow.

Modifié par paxxton, 10 juillet 2012 - 04:15 .


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Either.Ardrey wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

The Earth MP DLC was leaked long ago and we're pretty sure that the next event is intended to coincide with it (as has happened with previous MP DLCs) and it will be available at SDCC. But I wouldn't mind hearing more ideas about the integration of MP with the SP story, I mean if we don't adopt IT then there can't be any more MP DLC beyond Earth, right? And that doesn't seem likely so.. something has to happen.


I read some speculations on the Twitter Thread about pvp. But I'm still hoping for Reapers in the map backgrounds.

Other than that, I think that we're still pretty much following Arians theory.

If the leak about this mp pack is true, then that means this is going to be the first mp dlc where:
-All of the new characters are one species
-Rio is the first map we haven't seen/visited in sp

Resurgance also came out around the time of PAX East, right?
Does anyone know if Bioware showcased it there?
Or Rebellion, for that matter, but I don't think it came out when there were any conventions Bioware was visiting.


Why choose Rio? Jacob. I'm hoping they show us what actually happened to that bar. Probably would be destroyed (Fridge Horror).


It's home of N7 training course. Also, the background will be a lot more beautiful than Vancouver and London :D

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MaximizedAction

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marcelo_sdk wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

The Earth MP DLC was leaked long ago and we're pretty sure that the next event is intended to coincide with it (as has happened with previous MP DLCs) and it will be available at SDCC. But I wouldn't mind hearing more ideas about the integration of MP with the SP story, I mean if we don't adopt IT then there can't be any more MP DLC beyond Earth, right? And that doesn't seem likely so.. something has to happen.


I read some speculations on the Twitter Thread about pvp. But I'm still hoping for Reapers in the map backgrounds.

Other than that, I think that we're still pretty much following Arians theory.

If the leak about this mp pack is true, then that means this is going to be the first mp dlc where:
-All of the new characters are one species
-Rio is the first map we haven't seen/visited in sp

Resurgance also came out around the time of PAX East, right?
Does anyone know if Bioware showcased it there?
Or Rebellion, for that matter, but I don't think it came out when there were any conventions Bioware was visiting.


Why choose Rio? Jacob. I'm hoping they show us what actually happened to that bar. Probably would be destroyed (Fridge Horror).


It's home of N7 training course. Also, the background will be a lot more beautiful than Vancouver and London :D


Burning buildings, red sky and a nice coast line? :D

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 10 juillet 2012 - 04:29 .


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MaximizedAction wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

The Earth MP DLC was leaked long ago and we're pretty sure that the next event is intended to coincide with it (as has happened with previous MP DLCs) and it will be available at SDCC. But I wouldn't mind hearing more ideas about the integration of MP with the SP story, I mean if we don't adopt IT then there can't be any more MP DLC beyond Earth, right? And that doesn't seem likely so.. something has to happen.


I read some speculations on the Twitter Thread about pvp. But I'm still hoping for Reapers in the map backgrounds.

Other than that, I think that we're still pretty much following Arians theory.

If the leak about this mp pack is true, then that means this is going to be the first mp dlc where:
-All of the new characters are one species
-Rio is the first map we haven't seen/visited in sp

Resurgance also came out around the time of PAX East, right?
Does anyone know if Bioware showcased it there?
Or Rebellion, for that matter, but I don't think it came out when there were any conventions Bioware was visiting.


Why choose Rio? Jacob. I'm hoping they show us what actually happened to that bar. Probably would be destroyed (Fridge Horror).


It's home of N7 training course. Also, the background will be a lot more beautiful than Vancouver and London :D


Burning buildings, red sky and a nice coast line? :D

What about the New Year's parades in January? This time with the Reaper dancers.

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marcelo_sdk

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MaximizedAction wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

The Earth MP DLC was leaked long ago and we're pretty sure that the next event is intended to coincide with it (as has happened with previous MP DLCs) and it will be available at SDCC. But I wouldn't mind hearing more ideas about the integration of MP with the SP story, I mean if we don't adopt IT then there can't be any more MP DLC beyond Earth, right? And that doesn't seem likely so.. something has to happen.


I read some speculations on the Twitter Thread about pvp. But I'm still hoping for Reapers in the map backgrounds.

Other than that, I think that we're still pretty much following Arians theory.

If the leak about this mp pack is true, then that means this is going to be the first mp dlc where:
-All of the new characters are one species
-Rio is the first map we haven't seen/visited in sp

Resurgance also came out around the time of PAX East, right?
Does anyone know if Bioware showcased it there?
Or Rebellion, for that matter, but I don't think it came out when there were any conventions Bioware was visiting.


Why choose Rio? Jacob. I'm hoping they show us what actually happened to that bar. Probably would be destroyed (Fridge Horror).


It's home of N7 training course. Also, the background will be a lot more beautiful than Vancouver and London :D


Burning buildings, red sky and a nice coast line? :D


It's better than just Burning buildings and red sky  :D

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MaximizedAction wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Is that the super long theory that I keep forgetting to read? There needs to be a cliff-notes version of that.


I think so. I also find it rather displeasing that Arian's "too lazy" to link it in his sig.


It can be found as part of my blog...

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Arian Dynas wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Is that the super long theory that I keep forgetting to read? There needs to be a cliff-notes version of that.


I think so. I also find it rather displeasing that Arian's "too lazy" to link it in his sig.


It can be found as part of my blog...


Ahh, THAT's where it is. Thanks!

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So, who's up for some IT thread PC multiplayer? I'm thinking we should tackle the inevitable earth multiplayer event as a team {smilie}

MaximizedAction wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Is that the super long theory that I keep forgetting to read? There needs to be a cliff-notes version of that.


I think so. I also find it rather displeasing that Arian's "too lazy" to link it in his sig.


I think in this case it's strikingly similar to my "Scrooge McDuck" theory:
http://social.biowar.../index/12128204

TSA_383 wrote...

Something I see a lot on these forums is people gloating over EA's stock price falls and such as being indicative of the perils of angering a fanbase from a financial perspective.

Now the thing is, I don't really see it that way. As a result of all the shiny graphics we've come to expect from modern games, development costs for some of these titles can stretch into 9 figures. This might make sense for something like world of warcraft, which is still making an almost unbelievable amount of money and will probably turn out to have been the most profitable game of all time, but for a solely single-player title like mass effect, it doesn't really make sense, unless you can find some way to tap additional revenue streams.

We've seen companies like EA try to get around this by selling parts of the game as DLC, which is very lucrative, as not only do they get the sale of extra content, but in the case of PC gamers they can sell it directly through their own interest and not be paying for anyone else's markup.

But to be honest, a lot of the most profitable games have multiplayer - think about how much money some of the minor facebook app creators made selling people game "credits", and then look at the amount that bioware is making from selling "spectre packs" to people who don't want to get their ME3 MP weapons properly.

This is why the argument that pulling off a trick like IT would be bad for business doesn't really fly with me. I trade and invest a lot (thanks to everyone who helped me get my short in facebook today at over $40/share by pumping the price, damn nice of you) and frankly I'd much rather invest in a company that relied on a hybrid single player/multi player strategy for their games than a company that produced solely single-player titles.

So, with that in mind, taking into account the fact that I'm very much a part of the IT community on here, this is what I would do if I were to be trying to make the absolute maximum amount out of developing a twist like this:

-Take successful single player game, add multiplayer.
-Make it so that people who want to "win" the game are required to play multi player. It's a dick move but it's for very good reasons.
-Sell weapons to people who don't want to play properly (tens of millions of dollars for ME3 so far).
-Keep multiplayer events going, slowly mapping out the real conflict.
-Eventually
get to earth multiplayer event, announce new ending DLC at conclusion
of multiplayer event to vaugely tie it into the plot.
-Sell even more weapons to people who can't be arsed playing properly.
-Release DLC
-Get massive press coverage for surprise ending.
-Critical praise, ship another few hundred thousand copies, sell even more weapons to people who are new or just plain suck.
-Announce other new single player and multiplayer DLCs to much-appeased fanbase.
-Release more DLCs, merchandise etc.
-Roll around in a swimming pool full of money like a technologically adept scrooge McDuck.

Ten years ago, you sold a game for $50-60, that was it.
Now, your development costs far, far more, but the prices are largely the same.

So you can either continue selling single player games, or you can sell someone:
-The original game.
-DLC
-A whole bunch of "points" they don't really need for multiplayer.
-More DLC.

Given how much more money EA could make with this approach, probably an additional $70-150m depending on what exactly they're planning, they'd be mad NOT to go for it, and given how we've seen the multiplayer events mapping out the game conflict so far, I think I'm probably on the right track.
Thoughts?


leonia42 wrote...

The Earth MP DLC was leaked long ago and
we're pretty sure that the next event is intended to coincide with it
(as has happened with previous MP DLCs) and it will be available at
SDCC. But I wouldn't mind hearing more ideas about the integration of MP
with the SP story, I mean if we don't adopt IT then there can't be any
more MP DLC beyond Earth, right? And that doesn't seem likely so..
something has to happen.

It's all very exciting {smilie}
And dear god if they finally prove us right it'll finally put an end to the speculation {smilie}

pirate1802 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...


http://25.media.tumb...hmako1_1280.jpg

You were warned.


I'd never seen that {smilie}{smilie}{smilie}


For advice on how to unsee it, a premium-rate number will be made available shortly {smilie}

D.Sharrah wrote...

Why is it that TSA's link doesn't
really bother me that much...not exactly what I would go looking for,
but I am not disturbed by it...

You're somehow impervious to the psychological effects of scary mutated vaginas?

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I just learned that the word crucible in english has an additional meaning: It's a test to reavel an individual's true nature, or character?!

The german word for crucible has no additional meaning. Well, this is really interesting! So the crucible could be the ultimate test for Shepard?

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Also, for those who aren't aware, we know who the VA is for Leviathan, which suggests it's been recorded a while back:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0804673/


Schachmatt wrote...

I just learned that the word crucible
in english has an additional meaning: It's a test to reavel an
individual's true nature, or character?!

The german word for
crucible has no additional meaning. Well, this is really interesting! So
the crucible could be the ultimate test for Shepard?


Yup, it's an interesting choice of name...

Modifié par TSA_383, 10 juillet 2012 - 04:49 .