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[Arian Dynas]

Your Scrooge McDuck theory is similar, mind did expand a bit more about the nature of the twist itself, but you are quite correct in your reasoning.

Anyway since you guys keep asking, here it is;

[quote]Arian Dynas wrote...

To be entirely honest with you?

I don't think the EC was planned at all.

Does that mean I doubt IT? Heck no.

I think that the EC is Bioware doing EXACTLY what they said, making things more clear so that people can comprehend the ending better. For the simple fact that I think and continue to beleive their DLC plan worked out something like this;

1). Start up the ANN twitter feed, giving "Live realtime accounts" of the war and the events leading up to it, place the timeline to start the invasion on March 6th.

2). Design Mass Effect 3, plant clues both subtle and obvious to draw the interest of the fans, the ending is designed to be strange, out of place, but ultimately fulfilling and capable of satisfying the fans for now. Multiplayer is implimented to keep fan interest up. Fans keep speculating about the strange, out of place ending, staying involved and interested where normally they would finish the game and that would be the end of their thoughts on the subject.

3). Do weekly multiplayer events to make sure that the fans keep playing, even the casual ones, also integrate a story into multiplayer, since A. That's what Bioware does, and B. It gets fans involved in the story, they get to feel like real soldiers in the war. Multiplayer events coincide with classified major operations in the war, usually announced by Admiral Hackett.

4). Release single player DLC which again raises fan involvement and interest and keeps them playing, as well as speculating as more evidence and information comes in over time, in the ANN timeline, it is announced via the Twitter feed (usually the day before) and launched on the dates the events take place on.

5). Release multiplayer packs, representing various forces that enter the war over time, such as the Quarians and more Krogan as forces swell and increase, reflecting the alliegance of various forces, as well as their maneuvers against the Reapers. Which also keeps ME3 in the front of fans minds, interested, involved. thinking about, speculating.

6). Keep updating the ANN twitter feed, which eventually reaches the date of Chronos Station and the Seige of Earth, then to great fanfare, a final ending DLC is released, in which it is revealed the ending was in fact a big mind **** and that Shepard was facing indoctrination, some fans having realized this before, they reveal the numbers from the legend saves, showing the number of people they "indoctrinated" before allowing people to download this DLC, which follows the choice from their Legendsave, forcing them to live with the choice they made, showing them a different result and mission depending on their choices.

7). Mac Walters and Casey Hudson share a bottle of bubbly with Dr. Musyka and Gamble.

Unfortunately, they flubbed the "satisifed" part of the ending, but got the "strange and out of place" part spot on, so they need to make it clearer that it was intentional, so to salvage their original plan, they have to make the EC, which they didn't expect to have to make, and thus they are forced to defend the artistic integrity of their ending, which was meant to be intentional, yet most fans refused to interpret from the get go, not having to expect interpretative value from a videogame. It explains their comments that they didn't expect to make the EC, why they seemed "hurt" that we didn't like the ending, why they defended their artistic integrity so hard, and why they refused to change the endings that are, from face value, a bunch of stinkers, but from IT perspective, are positively brilliant.

Though I don't expect them to be following their original plan now, from the fan backlash, they likely decided it was a far better idea to just make the EC and squeeze in the ending content they originally had planned, potentially sans combat to win back the fans.

And even better? The funny thing about it? They aren't losing out on this at all. The only thing on the line is their reputation, which assuming this whole thing was planned will get completely turned around.

Returned copies? They don't lose any money, the distributing franchises like Gamestop and Amazon do, (considering Origin flatly refused refunds) and the only thing they maybe lose from them is reputation, which if they turn it around by revealing this massive plot twist? They just earned back AND MORE.

Sold games? Put in the used bin? Cerberus network all over again baby, people buy those used games, they already got their money from producing them, now they get to charge an additional $15 for the actual ending. Cash money.

Well what about the people who sold their games? Wouldn't you go out to buy another copy of one of the greatest games ever that was suddenly vindicated by the most epic twist in videogame interactive storytelling history? Especially since now with an ending suited to it, it's perfect? They just sold the same game to a person TWICE. Jackpot.

Lost reputation due to the worst ending in videogame history? Not quite, it's now being actually advertised as "The Most Talked About Ending in Years!" and there's no advertisement like free advertisement, and you KNOW people will buy it out of morbid cuiriousity to see if the ending is really that bad, and plenty will remember the good parts and think "Hmm, that game was fantastic for 98%" and potentially go back to buy the other two. Ca-CHING!

And the prestige! (not the Christopher Nolan flick) Bioware suddenly will be rocketed to the top again as brilliant storytellers, completely vindicated in the eyes of even their most curmudgeonly fans after the supposed fiasco of DA2, as well as having pulled off a plot twist that would make M. Night Shamaylan cry in jealousy, something other developers will dream of copying, but being completely unable to, cementing Bioware's reputation as tops in the videogame storytelling biz. EA will have conquered their reputation as this evil monolithic company, concerned only with making money (yet ironically, will be making more bank than ever, hmm funny, seems people don't mind that when they get what they want out of it.)

And revealing something this big? After the treatment the ending got on the news, you can BET this will be plastered EVERYWHERE. Yet more free advertisement. Not to mention everyone and their literature professor will be talking about it and dissecting it ala Kubrickian methods for years to come (just like we are now) they will have cemented their place as videogame legends.

Not to mention this will be a HUGE jumping off point for an entire FRANCHISE, Mass Effect just became mainstream, nearly as much as Star Trek and Star Wars, with a feature length movie, comic books, videogames, statuettes, three award winning games, the top of their respective markets, novels, patches, tee shirts, anime, all dragged into the limelight.

Think about it greedily if you must, EA is full of smart, undeniably greedy people, do you honestly think they would possibly turn down a gold mine like this, with literally NO downside? With movies and anime and novels and every kind of merchandising swag under the sun coming out with the Mass Effect name, ME is a franchise they are pushing HARD. IT is a win-win suitation for them, if Bioware DIDN'T do it or plan it, EA would be leaning on them anyway TO do it, their artistic integrity be damned! And yet Bioware gets to pull off a first in gaming, a truly interactive, involving storytelling experience, involving REAL roleplaying (not just Paragon and Renegade choices) with actual interprative vaue just like any well written novel, and a genuine artistic value.

It is literally a win-win suitation. And If I can think of it, you can bet your bollocks that EA and Bioware would. [/quote]
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[Schachmatt123]

UltimateTobi wrote...

If MP gets merged with SP, i.e. coop campaign, I'll be on the roll!

Hm, I do not like the idea. Mass Effect's campaign is supposed to be a single player game, and the campaign should stay single player.

But making coop optional would be a nice idea, indeed.

Modifié par Schachmatt, 10 juillet 2012 - 07:11 .

[HellishFiend]

Loving the fact that MP Earth DLC is coming next week. Cant wait!

[paxxton]

Any thoughts on that?

paxxton wrote...

Silhouett3 wrote...

Guys, you remember the official launch trailer which showed the conduit area with Liara at background saying "this is it, isn't it?" in the very end, hinting us to focus on that specific scene like it is a plot moving device? Just saying:innocent:

Yeah, I remember it well. I thought it was in another galaxy (like if Shepard had to travel into dark space to destroy some Reaper mind center). You know, that would be epic to have a chance to leave the Milky Way and go into the unknown territory of the enemy. Imagine what secrets you could uncover. Just wow.

[TSA_383]

HellishFiend wrote...

Loving the fact that MP Earth DLC is coming next week. Cant wait!

You're part of the xbox crowd right? I play vorcha sentinel too, we could form an unstoppable team if you were on PC 

[HellishFiend]

TSA_383 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Loving the fact that MP Earth DLC is coming next week. Cant wait!

You're part of the xbox crowd right? I play vorcha sentinel too, we could form an unstoppable team if you were on PC 

Yeah, the divide between the platforms is annoying sometimes. Would love to be able to play with everyone across all three platforms!

[MaximizedAction]

HellishFiend wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Loving the fact that MP Earth DLC is coming next week. Cant wait!

You're part of the xbox crowd right? I play vorcha sentinel too, we could form an unstoppable team if you were on PC 

Yeah, the divide between the platforms is annoying sometimes. Would love to be able to play with everyone across all three platforms!

Same here. The IT crowd would be infamous!

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 10 juillet 2012 - 05:05 .

[Andromidius]

TSA_383 wrote...

So, who's up for some IT thread PC multiplayer? I'm thinking we should tackle the inevitable earth multiplayer event as a team {smilie}

I'm online right now, same username as Origin.

Though I'm a bit irritated since I keep being dropped from games.  Seems that rather widespread and infuriating problem still hasn't been addressed.  Origin servers are bad, it seems.

[TSA_383]

MaximizedAction wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Loving the fact that MP Earth DLC is coming next week. Cant wait!

You're part of the xbox crowd right? I play vorcha sentinel too, we could form an unstoppable team if you were on PC 

Yeah, the divide between the platforms is annoying sometimes. Would love to be able to play with everyone across all three platforms!

Same here. The IT crowd would be infamous!

We already are on here

I'm off for food + silver match

[MaximizedAction]

Andromidius wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

So, who's up for some IT thread PC multiplayer? I'm thinking we should tackle the inevitable earth multiplayer event as a team {smilie}

I'm online right now, same username as Origin.

Though I'm a bit irritated since I keep being dropped from games.  Seems that rather widespread and infuriating problem still hasn't been addressed.  Origin servers are bad, it seems.

Yeah, happens to me, too, sometimes. Btw, the game's one in 1h okay?

[HellishFiend]

Andromidius wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

So, who's up for some IT thread PC multiplayer? I'm thinking we should tackle the inevitable earth multiplayer event as a team {smilie}

I'm online right now, same username as Origin.

Though I'm a bit irritated since I keep being dropped from games.  Seems that rather widespread and infuriating problem still hasn't been addressed.  Origin servers are bad, it seems.

Is it the EA server that's dropping you? There's a variety of things that can cause that, I think, and for me it was a bad DNS server. I think just one failed DNS query causes you to get dropped as an anti hack/cheat measure. I made a topic about the fix here:

http://social.biowar.../index/11207704 

[Andromidius]

HellishFiend wrote...
Is it the EA server that's dropping you? There's a variety of things that can cause that, I think, and for me it was a bad DNS server. I think just one failed DNS query causes you to get dropped as an anti hack/cheat measure. I made a topic about the fix here:

http://social.biowar.../index/11207704 

Honestly have no idea.  Still connected to the EA servers after its kicked me from the game, and no loss of internet elsewhere.

At least it was only a Bronze game (trying to level up a new Soldier and get some credits).

[HellishFiend]

Andromidius wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...
Is it the EA server that's dropping you? There's a variety of things that can cause that, I think, and for me it was a bad DNS server. I think just one failed DNS query causes you to get dropped as an anti hack/cheat measure. I made a topic about the fix here:

http://social.biowar.../index/11207704 

Honestly have no idea.  Still connected to the EA servers after its kicked me from the game, and no loss of internet elsewhere.

At least it was only a Bronze game (trying to level up a new Soldier and get some credits).

If you get dropped from the EA server and then immediately reconnect upon returning to the menu, it's possible that DNS is your issue. Unlike web browsers, I dont think EA's anti-hack/cheat measures offer any sort of persistency with it's DNS queries while in-game. With a web browser, intermittent DNS problems dont really cause anything more than a slight delay in the time it takes the page to start loading, because it will try many times before giving up. So some ISP's dont even really care if their DNS servers are horrible (there are some ISPs that are infamous for this problem). It usually isnt that big of a deal, but when successful and regular DNS queries are required to maintain connection to something (rare, but apparently thats what we have with ME3), it's a problem. Following the steps in my topic should help you fix that, or at least eliminate it as a potential problem. 

[Arian Dynas]

HellishFiend wrote...

Loving the fact that MP Earth DLC is coming next week. Cant wait!

Wait, that's been confirmed as true?

[Rifneno]

Hmm. Watching the conduit run with Shepard dodging beams on the run down, something occurs me....

Harbinger has reach, but Shepard has flexibility.

[paxxton]

Operation Broadside announced for this weekend!
http://blog.bioware....tion-broadside/

Modifié par paxxton, 10 juillet 2012 - 05:27 .

[dreamgazer]

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Loving the fact that MP Earth DLC is coming next week. Cant wait!

Wait, that's been confirmed as true?

http://majornelson.c...marketplace-13/ 

[Rifneno]

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Loving the fact that MP Earth DLC is coming next week. Cant wait!

Wait, that's been confirmed as true?

Yeah.  Not by BW, but Microsoft's official list of upcoming DLC lists it on the 17th.

[Dwailing]

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Loving the fact that MP Earth DLC is coming next week. Cant wait!

Wait, that's been confirmed as true?

Never mind, Rifneno told us.

Modifié par Dwailing, 10 juillet 2012 - 05:27 .

[Rifneno]

paxxton wrote...

Operation Broadside announced for this weekend!
http://blog.bioware....tion-broadside/

Squad Goal: Extract at least one squad member against Reapers on Gold difficulty

Oh that's just hateful.  The average player is in NO way suited for Reapers Gold.  Hell, the above average player is in no way suited for Reapers Gold.

[Dwailing]

paxxton wrote...

Operation Broadside announced for this weekend!
http://blog.bioware....tion-broadside/

Extraction with Reapers on GOLD?   This should be... interesting.  OK, everyone ready for some multiplayer?  'Cause I think we all work well as a team.

Modifié par Dwailing, 10 juillet 2012 - 05:30 .

[Dwailing]

Rifneno wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Operation Broadside announced for this weekend!
http://blog.bioware....tion-broadside/

Squad Goal: Extract at least one squad member against Reapers on Gold difficulty

Oh that's just hateful.  The average player is in NO way suited for Reapers Gold.  Hell, the above average player is in no way suited for Reapers Gold.

Well then, it's a good thing that most of us are excellent, not just above average. 

[paxxton]

I wonder if there is going be a similar extraction objective with some future OP weekend after Earth MP DLC is out. Like: extract Shepard from the rubble.

[Dwailing]

paxxton wrote...

I wonder if there is going be a similar extraction objective with some future OP weekend after Earth MP DLC is out. Like: extract Shepard from the rubble.

Now THAT would be telling, wouldn't it? 

[N7L4D]

paxxton wrote...

I wonder if there is going be a similar extraction objective with some future OP weekend after Earth MP DLC is out. Like: extract Shepard from the rubble.

lol 
i see what you did there