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[masster blaster]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

I'm just keeping my IT thoughts to the IT thread. No sense in running the risk of starting a conversation that just devolves to something like that old thread. I'm happy in my little corner of the BSN.

wohooo top post!

Dangit can't think of anything cool to say

Ya it's safe for now, but once the Literalyst start organizing a back lash on the IT thread. It's going to be shut down, but that's why I want to go find other people that believe in IT, or don't know  what happened to the endings at all.

So that we can bring them here and they can talk to eachother in peace for a bit, but we need to be ready because as of right know.

There are two Major sides.


The ITer's- That's us

The literalyst, and the people who don't like IT, or like the endings but hate that IT is still going on.

Modifié par masster blaster, 10 juillet 2012 - 07:54 .

[masster blaster]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Riot86 wrote...

b23h wrote...

While I really enjoyed the Mass Effect series, I concur that there are a number of problems. One issue that I had noted from wandering the galaxy during the first Mass Effect is that it seemed that a lot of the planet destruction from earlier Reaper incursions seemed to be from orbital bombardment. Yet when ME3 rolls around we have a bunch of Reapers hanging around the surface of the planet for an extended period of time.
*snip*

Actually, I never connected these orbital bombardments to the Reapers. I thought they were remains of wars between different organic/synthetic races in other cycles. As we learn in the series, there were several wars not involving the Reapers: the First Contact War, the Krogan Rebellion and the Rachni Wars are just a few examples from our cycle alone. Other Cycles would most likely had wars, too. Just think about the Protheans and what Javik tells you about their history - they were conquering(!) the galaxy, annihilating races who didn't want to join their empire. And they also had a conflict with a synthetic race, similar to the Geth/Quarian War.

Sorry, but I really don't think this is a plot hole.

Actually they are reaper-related. The rachni wars were started by Sovereign. The krogan rebellions were indirectly caused by the reapers, as they were caused by the rachni wars. The geth/quarian war was not started by the reapers but it was perpetuated by them. The Zha'til were taken over by the reapers in Javik's cycle. It is likely that most battles between synthetics and organics were actually caused by the reapers. How ironic...

Ya to bad there is no kill switch so that Shepard can't wake up and finsish the fight once and for all.:innocent:

[BansheeOwnage]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

I'm just keeping my IT thoughts to the IT thread. No sense in running the risk of starting a conversation that just devolves to something like that old thread. I'm happy in my little corner of the BSN.

wohooo top post!

Dangit can't think of anything cool to say

You stole what was rightfully mine.

[Lokanaiya]

masster blaster wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

I'm just keeping my IT thoughts to the IT thread. No sense in running the risk of starting a conversation that just devolves to something like that old thread. I'm happy in my little corner of the BSN.

wohooo top post!

Dangit can't think of anything cool to say

Ya it's safe for now, but once the Literalyst start organizing a back lash on the IT thread. It's going to be shut down, but that's why I want to go find other people that believe in IT, or don't know  what happened to the endings at all.

Literalists? Organizing? And I'm pretty sure the majority of people on this board know about IT, and those that believe have to have come to this thread at some point.

[Priss Blackburne]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

I'm just keeping my IT thoughts to the IT thread. No sense in running the risk of starting a conversation that just devolves to something like that old thread. I'm happy in my little corner of the BSN.

wohooo top post!

Dangit can't think of anything cool to say

You stole what was rightfully mine.

EEP!

[munnellyladt]

Hey guys,anything new?I've been gone for a while.

[boeloe]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Riot86 wrote...

b23h wrote...

While
I really enjoyed the Mass Effect series, I concur that there are a number of problems. One issue that I had noted from wandering the galaxy during the first Mass Effect is that it seemed that a lot of the planet destruction from earlier Reaper incursions seemed to be from orbital bombardment. Yet when ME3 rolls around we have a bunch of Reapers hanging around the surface of the planet for an extended period of time.

*snip*

Actually, I never connected these orbital bombardments to the Reapers. I thought they were remains of wars between different organic/synthetic races in other cycles. As we learn in the series, there were several wars not involving the Reapers: the First Contact War, the Krogan Rebellion and the Rachni Wars are just a few examples from our cycle alone. Other Cycles would most likely had wars, too. Just think about the Protheans and what Javik tells you about their history - they were conquering(!) the galaxy, annihilating races who didn't want to join their empire. And they also had a conflict with a synthetic race, similar to the Geth/Quarian War.

Sorry, but I really don't think this is a plot hole.

Actually they are reaper-related. The rachni wars were started by Sovereign. The krogan rebellions were indirectly caused by the reapers, as they were caused by the rachni wars. The geth/quarian war was not started by the reapers but it was perpetuated by them. The Zha'til were taken over by the reapers in Javik's cycle. It is likely that most battles between synthetics and organics were actually caused by the reapers. How ironic...

The explanation is quite simple actually. First the reapers take care of breaking the military opposition then they harvest all advanced life from that cycle and after that is done they bombard everything to hell to erase the evidence as much as possible.

Bombarding immediately would kill to many people.

Modifié par boeloe, 10 juillet 2012 - 07:57 .

[marcelo_sdk]

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

[BansheeOwnage]

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12598039

And we ALL saw how well that went.  Is it just me, or are they kind of giving us a bit of special treatment by letting our thread stay open?  That might have something to do with, oh, I don't know, the fact that we're doing EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED US TO DO!!!!  We're speculating, while all the literalists do is say, "Oh, BioWare made such a ****** ending, and their writers are so BAD, and they left so many plot holes, and I'd rather just say that the ending sucked than put my mind towards analyzing it and maybe thinking that they did something brilliant."  You know, the usual literalist drivel.

You know, I think you're right. Regardless of whether they planned IT, they've done everything to support us short of officially supporting us.  BleedingUranium reminded me that after the original endings people messaged BW like "Did ______ happen in the ending?" and "is it ____?" They denied those but not IT. Then after IT picked up some steam, they stopped. Could it be because they wanted people to get the endings, and when a lot did (IT), they stopped confirming or denying? It's interesting...

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 10 juillet 2012 - 07:59 .

[BansheeOwnage]

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

Uhh...I suppose destroy, because literally and in IT, Shepard lives.

[Rosewind]

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

[Priss Blackburne]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12598039

And we ALL saw how well that went.  Is it just me, or are they kind of giving us a bit of special treatment by letting our thread stay open?  That might have something to do with, oh, I don't know, the fact that we're doing EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED US TO DO!!!!  We're speculating, while all the literalists do is say, "Oh, BioWare made such a ****** ending, and their writers are so BAD, and they left so many plot holes, and I'd rather just say that the ending sucked than put my mind towards analyzing it and maybe thinking that they did something brilliant."  You know, the usual literalist drivel.

You know, I think you're right. Regardless of whether they planned IT, the done everything to support us short of officially supporting us.  BleedingUranium reminded me that after the original endings people messaged BW like "Did ______ happen in the ending?" and "is it ____?" They denied those but not IT. Then after IT picked up some steam, they stopped. Could it be because they wanted people to get the endings, and when a lot did (IT), they stopped confirming or denying? It's interesting...

There does seem to be a weird Give/take balancing act going on with IT.

[Dwailing]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12598039

And we ALL saw how well that went.  Is it just me, or are they kind of giving us a bit of special treatment by letting our thread stay open?  That might have something to do with, oh, I don't know, the fact that we're doing EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED US TO DO!!!!  We're speculating, while all the literalists do is say, "Oh, BioWare made such a ****** ending, and their writers are so BAD, and they left so many plot holes, and I'd rather just say that the ending sucked than put my mind towards analyzing it and maybe thinking that they did something brilliant."  You know, the usual literalist drivel.

You know, I think you're right. Regardless of whether they planned IT, the done everything to support us short of officially supporting us.  BleedingUranium reminded me that after the original endings people messaged BW like "Did ______ happen in the ending?" and "is it ____?" They denied those but not IT. Then after IT picked up some steam, they stopped. Could it be because they wanted people to get the endings, and when a lot did (IT), they stopped confirming or denying? It's interesting...

There does seem to be a weird Give/take balancing act going on with IT.

Like I said, it COULD just be that they support us simply because we're pretty much the only ones openly speculating, but still...

Modifié par Dwailing, 10 juillet 2012 - 07:59 .

[BansheeOwnage]

Dwailing wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12598039

And we ALL saw how well that went.  Is it just me, or are they kind of giving us a bit of special treatment by letting our thread stay open?  That might have something to do with, oh, I don't know, the fact that we're doing EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED US TO DO!!!!  We're speculating, while all the literalists do is say, "Oh, BioWare made such a ****** ending, and their writers are so BAD, and they left so many plot holes, and I'd rather just say that the ending sucked than put my mind towards analyzing it and maybe thinking that they did something brilliant."  You know, the usual literalist drivel.

You know, I think you're right. Regardless of whether they planned IT, the done everything to support us short of officially supporting us.  BleedingUranium reminded me that after the original endings people messaged BW like "Did ______ happen in the ending?" and "is it ____?" They denied those but not IT. Then after IT picked up some steam, they stopped. Could it be because they wanted people to get the endings, and when a lot did (IT), they stopped confirming or denying? It's interesting...

There does seem to be a weird Give/take balancing act going on with IT.

Like I said, it COULD just be that they support us simply because we're pretty much the only ones openly speculating, but still...

+1 to this sentiment.

[masster blaster]

Lokanaiya wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

I'm just keeping my IT thoughts to the IT thread. No sense in running the risk of starting a conversation that just devolves to something like that old thread. I'm happy in my little corner of the BSN.

wohooo top post!

Dangit can't think of anything cool to say

Ya it's safe for now, but once the Literalyst start organizing a back lash on the IT thread. It's going to be shut down, but that's why I want to go find other people that believe in IT, or don't know  what happened to the endings at all.

Literalists? Organizing? And I'm pretty sure the majority of people on this board know about IT, and those that believe have to have come to this thread at some point.

Ya but. I think it's gonig to come down to this. Bioware is going to have to make a choice.

One they can support IT, and we get the ending we all wanted, and get ready for ME4.

Or they side with the literalist and IT is dead, and that's that.

Either way they are going to lose a lot of people if IT is not true, since so many of us have put our time into finding every little piece of evidence for IT was being used in the endgame. And the Literalist if they side with us. But maybe they will make a well writen end to Shepard, that the Literalist will want to come back, if it was any good.

[BansheeOwnage]

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.

[marcelo_sdk]

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

Of course not. They need a canon history, or do u think they'll not explore the future of the galaxy? If not in games, in other medias. It's like KOTOR. There's a lot of way to finish the game. but since it's in the middle of Star Wars universe, they need a canon history.

[Rosewind]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Riot86 wrote...

b23h wrote...

While I really enjoyed the Mass Effect series, I concur that there are a number of problems. One issue that I had noted from wandering the galaxy during the first Mass Effect is that it seemed that a lot of the planet destruction from earlier Reaper incursions seemed to be from orbital bombardment. Yet when ME3 rolls around we have a bunch of Reapers hanging around the surface of the planet for an extended period of time.
*snip*

Actually, I never connected these orbital bombardments to the Reapers. I thought they were remains of wars between different organic/synthetic races in other cycles. As we learn in the series, there were several wars not involving the Reapers: the First Contact War, the Krogan Rebellion and the Rachni Wars are just a few examples from our cycle alone. Other Cycles would most likely had wars, too. Just think about the Protheans and what Javik tells you about their history - they were conquering(!) the galaxy, annihilating races who didn't want to join their empire. And they also had a conflict with a synthetic race, similar to the Geth/Quarian War.

Sorry, but I really don't think this is a plot hole.

Actually they are reaper-related. The rachni wars were started by Sovereign. The krogan rebellions were indirectly caused by the reapers, as they were caused by the rachni wars. The geth/quarian war was not started by the reapers but it was perpetuated by them. The Zha'til were taken over by the reapers in Javik's cycle. It is likely that most battles between synthetics and organics were actually caused by the reapers. How ironic...

Wheren't the Zha'til taken over after the war began?

[paxxton]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.

Control. In the sequel Shepard will be the antagonist.

Modifié par paxxton, 10 juillet 2012 - 08:05 .

[masster blaster]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12598039

And we ALL saw how well that went.  Is it just me, or are they kind of giving us a bit of special treatment by letting our thread stay open?  That might have something to do with, oh, I don't know, the fact that we're doing EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED US TO DO!!!!  We're speculating, while all the literalists do is say, "Oh, BioWare made such a ****** ending, and their writers are so BAD, and they left so many plot holes, and I'd rather just say that the ending sucked than put my mind towards analyzing it and maybe thinking that they did something brilliant."  You know, the usual literalist drivel.

You know, I think you're right. Regardless of whether they planned IT, the done everything to support us short of officially supporting us.  BleedingUranium reminded me that after the original endings people messaged BW like "Did ______ happen in the ending?" and "is it ____?" They denied those but not IT. Then after IT picked up some steam, they stopped. Could it be because they wanted people to get the endings, and when a lot did (IT), they stopped confirming or denying? It's interesting...

There does seem to be a weird Give/take balancing act going on with IT.

Like I said, it COULD just be that they support us simply because we're pretty much the only ones openly speculating, but still...

+1 to this sentiment.

I agree, but why haven't they told the Literalist that the endings is not happening?

Well they won't cormfirm IT, or deni it, but what about the Literalist?

[MaximizedAction]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12598039

And we ALL saw how well that went.  Is it just me, or are they kind of giving us a bit of special treatment by letting our thread stay open?  That might have something to do with, oh, I don't know, the fact that we're doing EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED US TO DO!!!!  We're speculating, while all the literalists do is say, "Oh, BioWare made such a ****** ending, and their writers are so BAD, and they left so many plot holes, and I'd rather just say that the ending sucked than put my mind towards analyzing it and maybe thinking that they did something brilliant."  You know, the usual literalist drivel.

You know, I think you're right. Regardless of whether they planned IT, the done everything to support us short of officially supporting us.  BleedingUranium reminded me that after the original endings people messaged BW like "Did ______ happen in the ending?" and "is it ____?" They denied those but not IT. Then after IT picked up some steam, they stopped. Could it be because they wanted people to get the endings, and when a lot did (IT), they stopped confirming or denying? It's interesting...

There does seem to be a weird Give/take balancing act going on with IT.

Like I said, it COULD just be that they support us simply because we're pretty much the only ones openly speculating, but still...

+1 to this sentiment.

ME3. Hopefully, Bioware's stroke of genius. The next big thing in video gaming. A revolution of interactive and storybased gaming.

Or, well...just look at another thread to see the alternative.

[marcelo_sdk]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.

Of course I like mine better too. With my "main" Shepard, I changed from destroy to reject. I just think it's important to know the canon to speculate what will come next in the series.

[BansheeOwnage]

masster blaster wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

I'm just keeping my IT thoughts to the IT thread. No sense in running the risk of starting a conversation that just devolves to something like that old thread. I'm happy in my little corner of the BSN.

wohooo top post!

Dangit can't think of anything cool to say

Ya it's safe for now, but once the Literalyst start organizing a back lash on the IT thread. It's going to be shut down, but that's why I want to go find other people that believe in IT, or don't know  what happened to the endings at all.

Literalists? Organizing? And I'm pretty sure the majority of people on this board know about IT, and those that believe have to have come to this thread at some point.

Ya but. I think it's gonig to come down to this. Bioware is going to have to make a choice.

One they can support IT, and we get the ending we all wanted, and get ready for ME4.

Or they side with the literalist and IT is dead, and that's that.

Either way they are going to lose a lot of people if IT is not true, since so many of us have put our time into finding every little piece of evidence for IT was being used in the endgame. And the Literalist if they side with us. But maybe they will make a well writen end to Shepard, that the Literalist will want to come back, if it was any good.

At this point, many of the ITers are recruiting squadmates in ME2, and Bioware needs to do our loyalty mission. Think of the fans as war assets; if I were Bioware, I would take the oldest and biggest fans as assets by supporting IT. If they support IT many literalists might actually like it too. But if they go with the literal endings, they will lose us as assets and many of the literalist nihilists who think they suck but don't believe IT.

TL;DR: Supporting IT would help BW more than supporting literal.

[demersel]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12598039

And we ALL saw how well that went.  Is it just me, or are they kind of giving us a bit of special treatment by letting our thread stay open?  That might have something to do with, oh, I don't know, the fact that we're doing EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED US TO DO!!!!  We're speculating, while all the literalists do is say, "Oh, BioWare made such a ****** ending, and their writers are so BAD, and they left so many plot holes, and I'd rather just say that the ending sucked than put my mind towards analyzing it and maybe thinking that they did something brilliant."  You know, the usual literalist drivel.

You know, I think you're right. Regardless of whether they planned IT, they've done everything to support us short of officially supporting us.  BleedingUranium reminded me that after the original endings people messaged BW like "Did ______ happen in the ending?" and "is it ____?" They denied those but not IT. Then after IT picked up some steam, they stopped. Could it be because they wanted people to get the endings, and when a lot did (IT), they stopped confirming or denying? It's interesting...

that is exactly what and how it happened.

[BansheeOwnage]

Rosewind wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Riot86 wrote...

b23h wrote...

While I really enjoyed the Mass Effect series, I concur that there are a number of problems. One issue that I had noted from wandering the galaxy during the first Mass Effect is that it seemed that a lot of the planet destruction from earlier Reaper incursions seemed to be from orbital bombardment. Yet when ME3 rolls around we have a bunch of Reapers hanging around the surface of the planet for an extended period of time.
*snip*

Actually, I never connected these orbital bombardments to the Reapers. I thought they were remains of wars between different organic/synthetic races in other cycles. As we learn in the series, there were several wars not involving the Reapers: the First Contact War, the Krogan Rebellion and the Rachni Wars are just a few examples from our cycle alone. Other Cycles would most likely had wars, too. Just think about the Protheans and what Javik tells you about their history - they were conquering(!) the galaxy, annihilating races who didn't want to join their empire. And they also had a conflict with a synthetic race, similar to the Geth/Quarian War.

Sorry, but I really don't think this is a plot hole.

Actually they are reaper-related. The rachni wars were started by Sovereign. The krogan rebellions were indirectly caused by the reapers, as they were caused by the rachni wars. The geth/quarian war was not started by the reapers but it was perpetuated by them. The Zha'til were taken over by the reapers in Javik's cycle. It is likely that most battles between synthetics and organics were actually caused by the reapers. How ironic...

Wheren't the Zha'til taken over after the war began?

I need to refresh my memory on that, but I know the reapers controlled them, like Geth.