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[masster blaster]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

I'm just keeping my IT thoughts to the IT thread. No sense in running the risk of starting a conversation that just devolves to something like that old thread. I'm happy in my little corner of the BSN.

wohooo top post!

Dangit can't think of anything cool to say

Ya it's safe for now, but once the Literalyst start organizing a back lash on the IT thread. It's going to be shut down, but that's why I want to go find other people that believe in IT, or don't know  what happened to the endings at all.

Literalists? Organizing? And I'm pretty sure the majority of people on this board know about IT, and those that believe have to have come to this thread at some point.

Ya but. I think it's gonig to come down to this. Bioware is going to have to make a choice.

One they can support IT, and we get the ending we all wanted, and get ready for ME4.

Or they side with the literalist and IT is dead, and that's that.

Either way they are going to lose a lot of people if IT is not true, since so many of us have put our time into finding every little piece of evidence for IT was being used in the endgame. And the Literalist if they side with us. But maybe they will make a well writen end to Shepard, that the Literalist will want to come back, if it was any good.

At this point, many of the ITers are recruiting squadmates in ME2, and Bioware needs to do our loyalty mission. Think of the fans as war assets; if I were Bioware, I would take the oldest and biggest fans as assets by supporting IT. If they support IT many literalists might actually like it too. But if they go with the literal endings, they will lose us as assets and many of the literalist nihilists who think they suck but don't believe IT.

TL;DR: Supporting IT would help BW more than supporting literal.

let us pray they will, but if not then it's going to be March 6th all over again, or was it the 11th.

[BansheeOwnage]

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.

Of course I like mine better too. With my "main" Shepard, I changed from destroy to reject. I just think it's important to know the canon to speculate what will come next in the series.

They could make control canon and Shepard the antagonist. But I seriously doubt it. I think we can throw synthesis out the airlock though.

[masster blaster]

Oh does anyone know how hellish, and Turbo are doing on there videos?

Also when is CleverNoob releasing the new IT documentry part 3 video?

Modifié par masster blaster, 10 juillet 2012 - 08:13 .

[masster blaster]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.

Of course I like mine better too. With my "main" Shepard, I changed from destroy to reject. I just think it's important to know the canon to speculate what will come next in the series.

They could make control canon and Shepard the antagonist. But I seriously doubt it. I think we can throw synthesis out the airlock though.

"Commander through that thing out of the airlock."

You got to love javik when it comes to Synthetics.

[BansheeOwnage]

masster blaster wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

At this point, many of the ITers are recruiting squadmates in ME2, and Bioware needs to do our loyalty mission. Think of the fans as war assets; if I were Bioware, I would take the oldest and biggest fans as assets by supporting IT. If they support IT many literalists might actually like it too. But if they go with the literal endings, they will lose us as assets and many of the literalist nihilists who think they suck but don't believe IT.

TL;DR: Supporting IT would help BW more than supporting literal.

let us pray they will, but if not then it's going to be March 6th all over again, or was it the 11th.

It was the 6th. 9th in Europe. Anyway, if they side with the literalists, there will be no day of reckoning or anything. Because there will be nothing released. They will just "not confirm or deny anything" forever.

[marcelo_sdk]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.

Of course I like mine better too. With my "main" Shepard, I changed from destroy to reject. I just think it's important to know the canon to speculate what will come next in the series.

They could make control canon and Shepard the antagonist. But I seriously doubt it. I think we can throw synthesis out the airlock though.

They could, too, make reject canon IF in the future they make possible the conventional victory. Or if they build a new plot with different races in the next cycle, but I doubt that.

[BansheeOwnage]

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.

Of course I like mine better too. With my "main" Shepard, I changed from destroy to reject. I just think it's important to know the canon to speculate what will come next in the series.

They could make control canon and Shepard the antagonist. But I seriously doubt it. I think we can throw synthesis out the airlock though.

They could, too, make reject canon IF in the future they make possible the conventional victory. Or if they build a new plot with different races in the next cycle, but I doubt that.

Yes, that's possible too. But like you said, only if they make reject winnable.

[masster blaster]

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.

Of course I like mine better too. With my "main" Shepard, I changed from destroy to reject. I just think it's important to know the canon to speculate what will come next in the series.

They could make control canon and Shepard the antagonist. But I seriously doubt it. I think we can throw synthesis out the airlock though.

They could, too, make reject canon IF in the future they make possible the conventional victory. Or if they build a new plot with different races in the next cycle, but I doubt that.

i hope not becaue Harby, and the Child will be in the next cycle too, and Gamble tweeted that the next cycle used the Crucible, but didn't Liara tell the next cycle " The crucible. it didn't work"?

Also was it suppost to be Glyph that was to be the messanger, not Liara.

Sorry ment if they wanted to continue the next cycle thing with the Reapers again.

Modifié par masster blaster, 10 juillet 2012 - 08:16 .

[Rosewind]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.

I prefer my head cannon

[BansheeOwnage]

masster blaster wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.

Of course I like mine better too. With my "main" Shepard, I changed from destroy to reject. I just think it's important to know the canon to speculate what will come next in the series.

They could make control canon and Shepard the antagonist. But I seriously doubt it. I think we can throw synthesis out the airlock though.

They could, too, make reject canon IF in the future they make possible the conventional victory. Or if they build a new plot with different races in the next cycle, but I doubt that.

i hope not becaue Harby, and the Child will be in the next cycle too, and Gamble tweeted that the next cycle used the Crucible, but didn't Liara tell the next cycle " The crucible. it didn't work"?

Also was it suppost to be Glyph that was to be the messanger, not Liara.

Hey good point, I think everyone forgot about that (I know I did).

[marcelo_sdk]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.

Of course I like mine better too. With my "main" Shepard, I changed from destroy to reject. I just think it's important to know the canon to speculate what will come next in the series.

They could make control canon and Shepard the antagonist. But I seriously doubt it. I think we can throw synthesis out the airlock though.

They could, too, make reject canon IF in the future they make possible the conventional victory. Or if they build a new plot with different races in the next cycle, but I doubt that.

Yes, that's possible too. But like you said, only if they make reject winnable.

Yeah, but most people doubt that. I don't know, but it seems too stupid to make a new ending with just no variables. And an ending that would possibly boost the MP, since to win conventionally a very high EMS would be neccessary.  

[masster blaster]

Rosewind wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.

I prefer my head cannon

Synthesis peace. No War, dying, or anything anymore.
Bye bye Synthesis.

[BansheeOwnage]

Rosewind wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.

I prefer my head cannon

What's your headcanon?

[BansheeOwnage]

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.

Of course I like mine better too. With my "main" Shepard, I changed from destroy to reject. I just think it's important to know the canon to speculate what will come next in the series.

They could make control canon and Shepard the antagonist. But I seriously doubt it. I think we can throw synthesis out the airlock though.

They could, too, make reject canon IF in the future they make possible the conventional victory. Or if they build a new plot with different races in the next cycle, but I doubt that.

Yes, that's possible too. But like you said, only if they make reject winnable.

Yeah, but most people doubt that. I don't know, but it seems too stupid to make a new ending with just no variables. And an ending that would possibly boost the MP, since to win conventionally a very high EMS would be neccessary.  

That, and Leviathan seems to support reject, as well as throwing control out the airlock. It would make sense to need all the EMS from DLCs to win there.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 10 juillet 2012 - 08:19 .

[paxxton]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.

I prefer my head cannon

What's your headcanon?

Yeah, Rose. What's your headcanon?

[marcelo_sdk]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.

Of course I like mine better too. With my "main" Shepard, I changed from destroy to reject. I just think it's important to know the canon to speculate what will come next in the series.

They could make control canon and Shepard the antagonist. But I seriously doubt it. I think we can throw synthesis out the airlock though.

They could, too, make reject canon IF in the future they make possible the conventional victory. Or if they build a new plot with different races in the next cycle, but I doubt that.

Yes, that's possible too. But like you said, only if they make reject winnable.

Yeah, but most people doubt that. I don't know, but it seems too stupid to make a new ending with just no variables. And an ending that would possibly boost the MP, since to win conventionally a very high EMS would be neccessary.  

That, and Leviathan seems to support reject, as well as throwing control out the airlock. It would make sense to need all the EMS from DLCs to win there.

Agree, I think that Leviathan can be the "thing" that will make conventional victory possible.

[masster blaster]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.

Of course I like mine better too. With my "main" Shepard, I changed from destroy to reject. I just think it's important to know the canon to speculate what will come next in the series.

They could make control canon and Shepard the antagonist. But I seriously doubt it. I think we can throw synthesis out the airlock though.

They could, too, make reject canon IF in the future they make possible the conventional victory. Or if they build a new plot with different races in the next cycle, but I doubt that.

Yes, that's possible too. But like you said, only if they make reject winnable.

Yeah, but most people doubt that. I don't know, but it seems too stupid to make a new ending with just no variables. And an ending that would possibly boost the MP, since to win conventionally a very high EMS would be neccessary.  

That, and Leviathan seems to support reject, as well as throwing control out the airlock. It would make sense to need all the EMS from DLCs to win there.

we will see then if Reject, or Destroy is the IT canon, but i think it's Destroy, or is the breath scene a prequail to teh reject, if the Leviathan support's Reject. hence forth why didn't they remove the breath scene in Destroy, or Breath scene is for Destroy alone, and in order to fully wake up you have to reject the Catalyst and the leviathan will let you pick Destroy to wake up fully, not a breath scene.

[BansheeOwnage]

masster blaster wrote...
i hope not becaue Harby, and the Child will be in the next cycle too, and Gamble tweeted that the next cycle used the Crucible, but didn't Liara tell the next cycle " The crucible. it didn't work"?

Also was it suppost to be Glyph that was to be the messanger, not Liara.

Sorry ment if they wanted to continue the next cycle thing with the Reapers again.

Yeah this kind of proves they won't do a sequel about the next cycle. Why? Simply because it implies that no matter how hard you tried, how much DLC you bought, how much MP you played, how many hours you played, Shepard would always lose, and you would have to do the same thing again: discover the reapers, rally the galaxy, and kill them - with the crucible.

[masster blaster]

Also was it suppose to be Glyph that was to be the messenger, not Liara. If they did fail in this cycle?

[Rosewind]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?

All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.

Of course I like mine better too. With my "main" Shepard, I changed from destroy to reject. I just think it's important to know the canon to speculate what will come next in the series.

They could make control canon and Shepard the antagonist. But I seriously doubt it. I think we can throw synthesis out the airlock though.

They could, too, make reject canon IF in the future they make possible the conventional victory. Or if they build a new plot with different races in the next cycle, but I doubt that.

i hope not becaue Harby, and the Child will be in the next cycle too, and Gamble tweeted that the next cycle used the Crucible, but didn't Liara tell the next cycle " The crucible. it didn't work"?

Also was it suppost to be Glyph that was to be the messanger, not Liara.

Hey good point, I think everyone forgot about that (I know I did).

Actually Glyph was the program that runs it kinda like your moblie phone software, no one said that it wasn't going to play videos of Liara talking.

[marcelo_sdk]

My impression is that Harbinger is a lot more powerful than all other Reapers. And, if I understood the lines from EC correctly, Leviathan is as old as Harbinger. So he could be a turning point to the battle in many ways, by providing knowledge about the Reapers history and in battle.

[BansheeOwnage]

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

That, and Leviathan seems to support reject, as well as throwing control out the airlock. It would make sense to need all the EMS from DLCs to win there.

Agree, I think that Leviathan can be the "thing" that will make conventional victory possible.

Especially if you consider that, from a literal perspective, Leviathan wouldn't like destroy too much. Or control. Or synthesis. Plus it's a reaper. That screams EMS to me.

[masster blaster]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
i hope not becaue Harby, and the Child will be in the next cycle too, and Gamble tweeted that the next cycle used the Crucible, but didn't Liara tell the next cycle " The crucible. it didn't work"?

Also was it suppost to be Glyph that was to be the messanger, not Liara.

Sorry ment if they wanted to continue the next cycle thing with the Reapers again.

Yeah this kind of proves they won't do a sequel about the next cycle. Why? Simply because it implies that no matter how hard you tried, how much DLC you bought, how much MP you played, how many hours you played, Shepard would always lose, and you would have to do the same thing again: discover the reapers, rally the galaxy, and kill them - with the crucible.

hell harby would say to the new hero of the next cycle " You remind me of Shepard" and that would be a facepalm of all face palms, if we have to hear the Catalyst agaid. Also if it's still in the form of the boy, then...... F**************** this.

[Rifneno]

b23h wrote...

However given all this, if one says that these plot holes are pointing towards the intent of Bioware to imply IT, then I suggest that you are replacing plot holes and inconsistencies with one of the MOST HACKNEYED DRAMATIC PLOTs EVER! The dream sequence that doesn't really happen or does not happen as shown.

Like most literalists, you just don't get it. A dream sequence is irrelevant because there is no consequences. An indoctrination hallucination is very relevant because the consequences are as real as it gets. Pick control or synthesis and you'll experience something far worse than death. Pick destroy and you've successfully withstood the enemy's greatest weapon. If you don't understand the difference between the two types of scenarios, that's your problem.

Lokanaiya wrote...

Literalists? Organizing?

Am I the only one who read this in Captain Gavorn's voice when Shepard asked him about the vorcha planning something and he said, "Vorcha? Plan?" and started laughing?

Rosewind wrote...

Wheren't the Zha'til taken over after the war began?

I still say the seeker swarms were zha'til leftovers...

Edit: Rawr, top spot!  *moons banshee*

Modifié par Rifneno, 10 juillet 2012 - 08:27 .

[masster blaster]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

That, and Leviathan seems to support reject, as well as throwing control out the airlock. It would make sense to need all the EMS from DLCs to win there.

Agree, I think that Leviathan can be the "thing" that will make conventional victory possible.

Especially if you consider that, from a literal perspective, Leviathan wouldn't like destroy too much. Or control. Or synthesis. Plus it's a reaper. That screams EMS to me.

ya but should we trust the leviathan/ I mean what if after the War is over it becomes the new boss/leader of the Reapers and well take over the galaxy., plus why does it hate Destroy if this is all a dream/Indoctrination attempt, since Shepard wakes up in Destroy and not the Reject.