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marcelo_sdk wrote...

My impression is that Harbinger is a lot more powerful than all other Reapers. And, if I understood the lines from EC correctly, Leviathan is as old as Harbinger. So he could be a turning point to the battle in many ways, by providing knowledge about the Reapers history and in battle.

Yes, he seems like Harbinger's equal, but fighting for your side. I haven't talked to it yet obviously, but it would be a shame to have to destroy it. It's basically another Javik.
Javik, the last prothean, whose only life goal is killing reapers, teams up with Leviathan, a reaper, whose only goal is killing reapers. Posted Image Epic!

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

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Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?


All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.


Of course I like mine better too. With my "main" Shepard, I changed from destroy to reject. I just think it's important to know the canon to speculate what will come next in the series.

They could make control canon and Shepard the antagonist. But I seriously doubt it. I think we can throw synthesis out the airlock though.


They could, too, make reject canon IF in the future they make possible the conventional victory. Or if they build a new plot with different races in the next cycle, but I doubt that.


i hope not becaue Harby, and the Child will be in the next cycle too, and Gamble tweeted that the next cycle used the Crucible, but didn't Liara tell the next cycle " The crucible. it didn't work"?

Also was it suppost to be Glyph that was to be the messanger, not Liara.

Hey good point, I think everyone forgot about that (I know I did).Posted Image



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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Yes, he seems like Harbinger's equal, but fighting for your side. I haven't talked to it yet obviously, but it would be a shame to have to destroy it. It's basically another Javik.
Javik, the last prothean, whose only life goal is killing reapers, teams up with Leviathan, a reaper, whose only goal is killing reapers. Posted Image Epic!


Hey now.  Leviathan can't help what he is.  Don't throw such a brutal insult as comparing him to Javik until we've talked to him and seen if he deserves such hate and contempt.

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Rifneno wrote...



I still say the seeker swarms were zha'til leftovers...

Edit: Rawr, top spot!  *moons banshee*

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About seeker swams however, they could be Zha'til, but I always imagined them to be a little bigger. Plus seekers look and act like mini collectors.

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masster blaster wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

That, and Leviathan seems to support reject, as well as throwing control out the airlock. It would make sense to need all the EMS from DLCs to win there.


Agree, I think that Leviathan can be the "thing" that will make conventional victory possible.

Especially if you consider that, from a literal perspective, Leviathan wouldn't like destroy too much. Or control. Or synthesis. Plus it's a reaper. That screams EMS to me.


ya but should we trust the leviathan/ I mean what if after the War is over it becomes the new boss/leader of the Reapers and well take over the galaxy., plus why does it hate Destroy if this is all a dream/Indoctrination attempt, since Shepard wakes up in Destroy and not the Reject.

Read bold please.

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masster blaster wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Someone knows which one of the endings is the canon?


All of them?

I like mine better because the only defining factor of canon in this case in the plausibility of making a sequel. Only way that's happening literally or IT is destroy.


Of course I like mine better too. With my "main" Shepard, I changed from destroy to reject. I just think it's important to know the canon to speculate what will come next in the series.

They could make control canon and Shepard the antagonist. But I seriously doubt it. I think we can throw synthesis out the airlock though.


They could, too, make reject canon IF in the future they make possible the conventional victory. Or if they build a new plot with different races in the next cycle, but I doubt that.


i hope not becaue Harby, and the Child will be in the next cycle too, and Gamble tweeted that the next cycle used the Crucible, but didn't Liara tell the next cycle " The crucible. it didn't work"?

Also was it suppost to be Glyph that was to be the messanger, not Liara.

Hey good point, I think everyone forgot about that (I know I did).Posted Image


Is it possible that Glyph is relaying a message similar to how R2D2 does for Princess Leia in A New Hope?

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[quote]BansheeOwnage wrote...

[quote]masster blaster wrote...

[quote]BansheeOwnage wrote...

[quote]marcelo_sdk wrote...

[quote]BansheeOwnage wrote...

That, and Leviathan seems to support reject, as well as throwing control out the airlock. It would make sense to need all the EMS from DLCs to win there.[/quote]

Agree, I think that Leviathan can be the "thing" that will make conventional victory possible.

[/quote]
Especially if you consider that, from a literal perspective, Leviathan wouldn't like destroy too much. Or control. Or synthesis. Plus it's a reaper. That screams EMS to me.[/quote]

ya but should we trust the leviathan/ I mean what if after the War is over it becomes the new boss/leader of the Reapers and well take over the galaxy., plus why does it hate Destroy if this is all a dream/Indoctrination attempt, since Shepard wakes up in Destroy and not the Reject.

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Read bold please.[/quote
oh sorry.

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Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Yes, he seems like Harbinger's equal, but fighting for your side. I haven't talked to it yet obviously, but it would be a shame to have to destroy it. It's basically another Javik.
Javik, the last prothean, whose only life goal is killing reapers, teams up with Leviathan, a reaper, whose only goal is killing reapers. Posted Image Epic!


Hey now.  Leviathan can't help what he is.  Don't throw such a brutal insult as comparing him to Javik until we've talked to him and seen if he deserves such hate and contempt.

What did I say that implies I hate him. And I did say I need to talk to him first.

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Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Yes, he seems like Harbinger's equal, but fighting for your side. I haven't talked to it yet obviously, but it would be a shame to have to destroy it. It's basically another Javik.
Javik, the last prothean, whose only life goal is killing reapers, teams up with Leviathan, a reaper, whose only goal is killing reapers. Posted Image Epic!


Hey now.  Leviathan can't help what he is.  Don't throw such a brutal insult as comparing him to Javik until we've talked to him and seen if he deserves such hate and contempt.


The perfect sitcom: Who's gonna throw whom out the airlock first?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

My impression is that Harbinger is a lot more powerful than all other Reapers. And, if I understood the lines from EC correctly, Leviathan is as old as Harbinger. So he could be a turning point to the battle in many ways, by providing knowledge about the Reapers history and in battle.

Yes, he seems like Harbinger's equal, but fighting for your side. I haven't talked to it yet obviously, but it would be a shame to have to destroy it. It's basically another Javik.
Javik, the last prothean, whose only life goal is killing reapers, teams up with Leviathan, a reaper, whose only goal is killing reapers. Posted Image Epic!


Javik and Leviathan. A team that will give us a lot of EMS, but not as much as Blasto and [forgot the name of the elcor]:unsure:

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Yes, he seems like Harbinger's equal, but fighting for your side. I haven't talked to it yet obviously, but it would be a shame to have to destroy it. It's basically another Javik.
Javik, the last prothean, whose only life goal is killing reapers, teams up with Leviathan, a reaper, whose only goal is killing reapers. Posted Image Epic!


Hey now.  Leviathan can't help what he is.  Don't throw such a brutal insult as comparing him to Javik until we've talked to him and seen if he deserves such hate and contempt.

What did I say that implies I hate him. And I did say I need to talk to him first.


In case you didn't know, Rifneno hates Javik almost as much as he hates Star-Brat if not more so.  And considering that EVERY ITist hates the Star-Brat with the firey passion of a thousand suns, that should tell you quite a bit. ;)

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marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

My impression is that Harbinger is a lot more powerful than all other Reapers. And, if I understood the lines from EC correctly, Leviathan is as old as Harbinger. So he could be a turning point to the battle in many ways, by providing knowledge about the Reapers history and in battle.

Yes, he seems like Harbinger's equal, but fighting for your side. I haven't talked to it yet obviously, but it would be a shame to have to destroy it. It's basically another Javik.
Javik, the last prothean, whose only life goal is killing reapers, teams up with Leviathan, a reaper, whose only goal is killing reapers. Posted Image Epic!


Javik and Leviathan. A team that will give us a lot of EMS, but not as much as Blasto and [forgot the name of the elcor]:unsure:

Bubin right?

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Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Yes, he seems like Harbinger's equal, but fighting for your side. I haven't talked to it yet obviously, but it would be a shame to have to destroy it. It's basically another Javik.
Javik, the last prothean, whose only life goal is killing reapers, teams up with Leviathan, a reaper, whose only goal is killing reapers. Posted Image Epic!


Hey now.  Leviathan can't help what he is.  Don't throw such a brutal insult as comparing him to Javik until we've talked to him and seen if he deserves such hate and contempt.

What did I say that implies I hate him. And I did say I need to talk to him first.


In case you didn't know, Rifneno hates Javik almost as much as he hates Star-Brat if not more so.  And considering that EVERY ITist hates the Star-Brat with the firey passion of a thousand suns, that should tell you quite a bit. ;)

Do you hate Javik?

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People hate Javik? But he's such an awesome addition to the story.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

My impression is that Harbinger is a lot more powerful than all other Reapers. And, if I understood the lines from EC correctly, Leviathan is as old as Harbinger. So he could be a turning point to the battle in many ways, by providing knowledge about the Reapers history and in battle.

Yes, he seems like Harbinger's equal, but fighting for your side. I haven't talked to it yet obviously, but it would be a shame to have to destroy it. It's basically another Javik.
Javik, the last prothean, whose only life goal is killing reapers, teams up with Leviathan, a reaper, whose only goal is killing reapers. Posted Image Epic!


Javik and Leviathan. A team that will give us a lot of EMS, but not as much as Blasto and [forgot the name of the elcor]:unsure:

Bubin right?


Yeah, I think it's that.

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Leviathan's VA has been confirmed. He is british :D:D:D

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Flog61 wrote...

Leviathan's VA has been confirmed. He is british :D:D:D


Why oh why didn't they get Patrick Stewart?  He would be PERFECT as a Reaper.

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Flog61 wrote...

Leviathan's VA has been confirmed. He is british :D:D:D

Yeah I thought that was interesting. British reaper.

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Flog61 wrote...

Leviathan's VA has been confirmed. He is british :D:D:D


Great news, since we even hadn't the confirmation that this Leviathan was the "Levaithan of Dis". 

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I hope leviathan will take control of alliance troops on the battlefield and talk smack to the reapers for a change. "I know you feel this Cannibal." "Your allies have fallen Banshee" "My powers will tear you apart Marauder."

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Yes, he seems like Harbinger's equal, but fighting for your side. I haven't talked to it yet obviously, but it would be a shame to have to destroy it. It's basically another Javik.
Javik, the last prothean, whose only life goal is killing reapers, teams up with Leviathan, a reaper, whose only goal is killing reapers. Posted Image Epic!


Hey now.  Leviathan can't help what he is.  Don't throw such a brutal insult as comparing him to Javik until we've talked to him and seen if he deserves such hate and contempt.

What did I say that implies I hate him. And I did say I need to talk to him first.


In case you didn't know, Rifneno hates Javik almost as much as he hates Star-Brat if not more so.  And considering that EVERY ITist hates the Star-Brat with the firey passion of a thousand suns, that should tell you quite a bit. ;)

Do you hate Javik?


I'm not sure if I really LIKE him, but I find him to be a rather tragic figure.  And I always try to keep in mind that his time was MUCH different from ours.

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Flog61 wrote...

Leviathan's VA has been confirmed. He is british :D:D:D

Link, please.

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Dwailing wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

Leviathan's VA has been confirmed. He is british :D:D:D


Why oh why didn't they get Patrick Stewart?  He would be PERFECT as a Reaper.

I suppose he's too expensive for BioWare.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

The Earth MP DLC was leaked long ago and we're pretty sure that the next event is intended to coincide with it (as has happened with previous MP DLCs) and it will be available at SDCC. But I wouldn't mind hearing more ideas about the integration of MP with the SP story, I mean if we don't adopt IT then there can't be any more MP DLC beyond Earth, right? And that doesn't seem likely so.. something has to happen.


I read some speculations on the Twitter Thread about pvp. But I'm still hoping for Reapers in the map backgrounds.

Other than that, I think that we're still pretty much following Arians theory.

If the leak about this mp pack is true, then that means this is going to be the first mp dlc where:
-All of the new characters are one species
-Rio is the first map we haven't seen/visited in sp

Resurgance also came out around the time of PAX East, right?
Does anyone know if Bioware showcased it there?
Or Rebellion, for that matter, but I don't think it came out when there were any conventions Bioware was visiting.


Why choose Rio? Jacob. I'm hoping they show us what actually happened to that bar. Probably would be destroyed (Fridge Horror).


It's home of N7 training course. Also, the background will be a lot more beautiful than Vancouver and London :D


Burning buildings, red sky and a nice coast line? :D


WAIT. If Rio is the N7 training place, does that mean, that our promoted N7 MP Characters will be there. Also can they tie the promoting MP characters in the SP if they add Rio to the SP.

Sorry Banshee i took you post and made it mine own.:devil:

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

People hate Javik? But he's such an awesome addition to the story.

I don't know if he likes him in the story or not he just hates him. In the opposite way I hate James. I don't mind James as a dude, but I hate the fact that he replaces another potential squadmate, most likely Wrex.

As for Javik, I think he's an awesome character, just not one that you agree with a lot. He's a product of his time/situation, but what makes him awesome is he ackknowledges that, and admits he would probably not be biased towards synthetics if he was a scientist instead of a soldier etc.