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[Turbo_J]

I'm so far behind... Too much messing around in ME1 gathering data.

I did spot the MP Weekend info and need to take a break to build a Infiltrator. I went on a promotion rampage so I think my highest lvl character is 6. I'll probably play some about 10pm EST if anyone's around. Need to touch base with my gold team to see if we can plan best how to take out Reapers... that's gonna suck.

Oh, I read about the helmet taken off Coats being listed as Shepard's in the files. I said it right after playing the EC that it was Shep's Helmet from the Normandy crash site - the one we can't find on the ship for those of us who have the DLC... I'll reiterate - now where is that damn orb!?

[Chriz Tah Fah]

Turbo_J wrote...

You know, the Destroy ending could be 'reality' it just takes place some time after Shep is pulled from the rubble and rehabilitated. This would fit the 'No new endings' and even kind of fit by loophole, no post endings.

I thought about this too, however it would make the "wall of the fallen" scene either fake (I am aware Shep's name doesn't go up, but Anderson's does), or before the epilouge. I also believe that if this was the case BW would probably have made it a little more obvious. I could be wrong though because it does seem that they tried to please everyone. Either way the ordering of the destroy ending feels off. All in all it feels weird that a game like mass effect which was all about cutscenes and all that jazz would end in a...picture slideshow? It feels off, it feels unfinished, and I feel that the indoctrination theory is rightfully next.

Anywho. Even if Shepard was/is dead, as long as Shep's body wasn't completely EXPLODED there would without a doubt be another Lazarus project.

[Turbo_J]

paxxton wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

You know, the Destroy ending could be 'reality' it just takes place some time after Shep is pulled from the rubble and rehabilitated. This would fit the 'No new endings' and even kind of fit by loophole, no post endings.

Nope. I think that's stretching it. In that way any of the endings could be reality.

I'm not sure I believe it either, just tossing it out there. I need to play through the ending again and capture a vid. I purged a lot of footage and didn't keep my capture of the EC run. Oh well.

[lex0r11]

paxxton wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

You know, the Destroy ending could be 'reality' it just takes place some time after Shep is pulled from the rubble and rehabilitated. This would fit the 'No new endings' and even kind of fit by loophole, no post endings.

Nope. I think that's stretching it. In that way any of the endings could be reality.

There are other ways, here is something from several pages ago.

lex0r11 wrote...

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The fact that it took on the form of a kid Shepard sees the entire game in dreams and for real has to mean something in terms of their capability to see or get into Shepards mind.

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lex0r11 wrote...

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I also see it like this, that in reality there was just a kill switch or a console. Shepard just saw this whole scene prepared by the catalyst to shroud a simple choice: Hit the button and kill the reapers OR do nothing and become
part/controlled by the reapers.

The destroy choice was still in that scene because Shepards mind was STILL fighting. So the scene had to have outside influences (in this case, part of the real world still perceived by Shepard)

Modifié par lex0r11, 11 juillet 2012 - 12:00 .

[Either.Ardrey]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

 Finallly caught up today and on my lunch break at work, and I saw a few things I wished to input on. Unfortunately nothing IT related.

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For the MP weekend training, I'd like to join in on. I'm in the IT PC MP Group/Thread, so if you haven't added me yet, I'm in there. Pretty much the same as my username here, Either_Ardrey. I'm available in about an hour as a starting time (which would be just after 5PM here).

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Personally I think the Predator is fine. I managed to kick some serious butt in solo Bronze as Batarian Sentinel, because I was too busy to switch back to my Valiant.

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Since Earth MP DLC is all but confirmed from Bioware's panel at SDCC, I've been contemplating the new human characters listed in the leak: Shadow, Fury, Demolisher, Destroyer, Slayer, and Paladin. Based of the names, it seems to me that the translation will be (bold is what I'm leaning towards)
Shadow - Infiltrator
Fury - Adept
Paladin - Sentinel
Demolisher - Vanguard or Engineer
Destroyer - Soldier or Vanguard
Slayer - Engineer or Soldier

Just my own musings. Lets see how they match up when it happens, if it happens that way.

Carry on the speculations. I want something IT related to comment on!

Turns out I was right for most of them. I only totally fudged the Slayer (which is confirmed as Vanguard seemingly, if the source is to be believed, which I do for myself). Destroyer is actually Soldier, which was my initial thought until I considered the other classes. Everything else was spot on though. Here's the link to the info.

[BleedingUranium]

Turbo_J wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

You know, the Destroy ending could be 'reality' it just takes place some time after Shep is pulled from the rubble and rehabilitated. This would fit the 'No new endings' and even kind of fit by loophole, no post endings.

Nope. I think that's stretching it. In that way any of the endings could be reality.

I'm not sure I believe it either, just tossing it out there. I need to play through the ending again and capture a vid. I purged a lot of footage and didn't keep my capture of the EC run. Oh well.

I don't believe that either, but it does speak to just how vague the Destroy cutscenes are

[Chriz Tah Fah]

I can't help but think that the predator/carnifex swap/change/use along with a lot of the other things like plotholes and transition lights are purely deliberate by BW. I might be giving them too much credit , but from my time playing ME I have noticed BW's attention to detail and the way they suggest things to you in subtle ways. While I am aware that the staff changed a good bit from ME2 -> ME3, I refuse to believe that BW could fudge THE MOST important part of any ME game SO BADLY. All the mistakes and missteps by BW in the ending would have all been deliberate in the other ME games. It doesn't make sense.

[paxxton]

lex0r11 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

You know, the Destroy ending could be 'reality' it just takes place some time after Shep is pulled from the rubble and rehabilitated. This would fit the 'No new endings' and even kind of fit by loophole, no post endings.

Nope. I think that's stretching it. In that way any of the endings could be reality.

There are other ways, here is something from several pages ago.

lex0r11 wrote...

[...]

The fact that it took on the form of a kid Shepard sees the entire game in dreams and for real has to mean something in terms of their capability to see or get into Shepards mind.

[...]

lex0r11 wrote...

[...]

edit:
I also see it like this, that in reality there was just a kill switch or a console. Shepard just saw this whole scene prepared by the catalyst to shroud a simple choice: Hit the button and kill the reapers OR do nothing and become
part/controlled by the reapers.

The destroy choice was still in that scene because Shepards mind was STILL fighting. So the scene had to have outside influences (in this case, part of the real world still perceived by Shepard)

I'm not sure about any "outside influences" of Destroy besides breaking out of indoctrination. Remember that during the whole ending Shepard was lying comfortably on the concrete road leading to the conduit.

Modifié par paxxton, 11 juillet 2012 - 12:10 .

[lex0r11]

paxxton wrote...

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I'm not sure about any "outside influences" of Destroy beside breaking out of indoctrination. Remember that during the whole ending Shepard was lying comfortably on the concrete road leading to the conduit.

If Shepards indoctrination doesn't start before the beam, it starts right after passing out in front of the console when hackett calls.

Modifié par lex0r11, 11 juillet 2012 - 12:11 .

[paxxton]

lex0r11 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

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I'm not sure about any "outside influences" of Destroy beside breaking out of indoctrination. Remember that during the whole ending Shepard was lying comfortably on the concrete road leading to the conduit.

If Shepards indoctrination doesn't start before the beam, it starts right after passing out in front of the console when hackett called.

Nah, the change in setting and overall mood before entering the beam is too obvious. We can fairly assume that this is the beginning of the hallucination.

Modifié par paxxton, 11 juillet 2012 - 12:13 .

[masster blaster]

masster blaster wrote...

But Byne what if it is possible that Anderson thought Shepard was not him/herself becasue that was just right when you and Hackett talk to Anderson about what's going down in a few minutes. Also I forgot to say think, not assume that Shepard is Indoctrinated, and Joker has been keeping an eye on Shepard. So I think Joker got hold of Anderson, and told him about Shepard's stress level .

Also isn't it weird that Anderson said that " It's a same that the Reapers brought us here togetherL but it's right after Shepard says Really to Anderson's comment. So it's weird that Anderson does this, but drops it when Shepard's squad mate tells Anderson that Shepard is the one that brought everyone together. Then Shepard says I missed Earth and after that Anderson drops it since he can't further question Shepard, since they have a war to fight.

[lex0r11]

paxxton wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

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I'm not sure about any "outside influences" of Destroy beside breaking out of indoctrination. Remember that during the whole ending Shepard was lying comfortably on the concrete road leading to the conduit.

If Shepards indoctrination doesn't start before the beam, it starts right after passing out in front of the console when hackett called.

Nah, the change in setting and overall mood before entering the beam is too obvious. We can fairly assume that this is the beginning of the hallucination.

In hindsight, seeing a "real" console rather than one out of memory doesn't work in destroy and the breath scene. So yeah, scratch "real influences".

Modifié par lex0r11, 11 juillet 2012 - 12:16 .

[Chriz Tah Fah]

lex0r11 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

[...]

I'm not sure about any "outside influences" of Destroy beside breaking out of indoctrination. Remember that during the whole ending Shepard was lying comfortably on the concrete road leading to the conduit.

If Shepards indoctrination doesn't start before the beam, it starts right after passing out in front of the console when hackett called.

Nah, the change in setting and overall mood before entering the beam is too obvious. We can fairly assume that this is the beginning of the hallucination.

In hindsight, seeing a "real" console rather than one out of memory doesn't work in destroy and the breath scene. So yeah, scratch "real influences".

About the "real" console. The console was not the same one that was used by Saren in ME1. While that part of the Ciatdel may have partially been destroyed, this fact still doesn't line up. This was mentioned by Clevernoob in the documentary thing.

[Turbo_J]

paxxton wrote...

I'm not sure about any "outside influences" of Destroy besides breaking out of indoctrination. Remember that during the whole ending Shepard was lying comfortably on the concrete road leading to the conduit.

Shepard shoots something. I've said it enough, I think he/she blows up some power source to an indoctrination beacon or the beacon itself and flies 20-30 feet back, landing in and being partially buried by rubble.

The illusion in the mind is just that. Very few aspects of it coincide with reality other than the setting and structure of the beam/beacon area itself and perhaps the run channel to that beacon... which looks like the Mako drive to the conduit in ME1... even the debris off to the sides juts in a way matching the grass islands the colossus' are on.

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

But Byne what if it is possible that Anderson thought Shepard was not him/herself becasue that was just right when you and Hackett talk to Anderson about what's going down in a few minutes. Also I forgot to say think, not assume that Shepard is Indoctrinated, and Joker has been keeping an eye on Shepard. So I think Joker got hold of Anderson, and told him about Shepard's stress level .

Also isn't it weird that Anderson said that " It's a same that the Reapers brought us here togetherL but it's right after Shepard says Really to Anderson's comment. So it's weird that Anderson does this, but drops it when Shepard's squad mate tells Anderson that Shepard is the one that brought everyone together. Then Shepard says I missed Earth and after that Anderson drops it since he can't further question Shepard, since they have a war to fight.

So its like this:

Anderson: I suspect Shepard is indoctrinated. I'd better put her in charge of destroying the destroyer, and have her as part of the final charge. Nothing could go wrong with having a possibly indoctrinated agent being essential to our plans to win!

Anderson isnt that stupid, and I find this whole 'I was born in London' being a test idea ridiculous.

[lex0r11]

byne wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Darn straight!  Also, you just changed your avatar?  Well, at least you still look sort of like you used to.  Otherwise, Byne would freak.

I can't do that to the ThreadMaster™.

Already was hanged once for disappoint.

lex0r knows how to make up for making me disappoint. When he first posted that picture last night, I was tempted to tell him to make it his avatar, but never did.

The fact that he did it on his own is awesome!

Maybe you did give me that order?

I heard strange whispers in my sleep.. something about changing guise..
Next thing I remember is waking up on my keyboard. Ouch.

Modifié par lex0r11, 11 juillet 2012 - 12:24 .

[comrade gando]

I wonder why anderson's name in the subtitles turns to "admiral anderson" for no reason after shepard gets on to the citadel. He was never identified as "admiral anderson" anywhere else in the game was he? why now?

[paxxton]

Turbo_J wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I'm not sure about any "outside influences" of Destroy besides breaking out of indoctrination. Remember that during the whole ending Shepard was lying comfortably on the concrete road leading to the conduit.

Shepard shoots something. I've said it enough, I think he/she blows up some power source to an indoctrination beacon or the beacon itself and flies 20-30 feet back, landing in and being partially buried by rubble.

The illusion in the mind is just that. Very few aspects of it coincide with reality other than the setting and structure of the beam/beacon area itself and perhaps the run channel to that beacon... which looks like the Mako drive to the conduit in ME1... even the debris off to the sides juts in a way matching the grass islands the colossus' are on.

If lex0r11 talked about it, I didn't quite follow. With your clarification it now makes more sense. The hallucination obscures Shepard's view. But still it seems a bit too far-fetched. With the real world obscured, Shepard could have stumbled over a rock, fall onto the ground and break his nose.

Modifié par paxxton, 11 juillet 2012 - 12:27 .

[Chriz Tah Fah]

comrade gando wrote...

I wonder why anderson's name in the subtitles turns to "admiral anderson" for no reason after shepard gets on to the citadel. He was never identified as "admiral anderson" anywhere else in the game was he? why now?

It is possibly a oversight bit I don't think so. Bioware doesn't really miss these kinds of things. My theory is that it changed because this is how the REAPERS identify Anderson. It would make sense that he would be called "Admiral Anderson" if Shepard was being indoctrinated.

[paxxton]

Anyway, I should go.

Modifié par paxxton, 11 juillet 2012 - 12:31 .

[CoolioThane]

Hmm, I'm actually excited about the Multiplayer DLC. The classes look pretty cool, and Platinum difficulty sounds bloody fun xD

A mech-like Soldier...interesante and FINALLY a supply pylon thing. Very intriguing...

Please let them release the IT DLC before xmas!

[invetro]

Turbo_J wrote...

The illusion in the mind is just that. Very few aspects of it coincide with reality other than the setting and structure of the beam/beacon area itself and perhaps the run channel to that beacon... which looks like the Mako drive to the conduit in ME1... even the debris off to the sides juts in a way matching the grass islands the colossus' are on.

And in both cases, Shep goes flying upwards at a collosal speed once the beam/conduit is reached.

[byne]

CoolioThane wrote...

Hmm, I'm actually excited about the Multiplayer DLC. The classes look pretty cool, and Platinum difficulty sounds bloody fun xD

A mech-like Soldier...interesante and FINALLY a supply pylon thing. Very intriguing...

Please let them release the IT DLC before xmas!

Where did you see this MP DLC stuff?

[Emiya_Archer]

Hi! Been digging through the EC files and found more info about the Rio mp map from the Earth dlc. Here goes.

One of the names of the husk/marines scene (synthusk i'm looking at you) is End03_C_LondonRio_Outro.bik.

I've calculated the time diference based on the time displayed on Big Ben and it ads up.

So what you think guys?

[BleedingUranium]

byne wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Hmm, I'm actually excited about the Multiplayer DLC. The classes look pretty cool, and Platinum difficulty sounds bloody fun xD

A mech-like Soldier...interesante and FINALLY a supply pylon thing. Very intriguing...

Please let them release the IT DLC before xmas!

Where did you see this MP DLC stuff?

Here

The link to the Piranha doesn't work, so here