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[Simon_Says]

invetro wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

The illusion in the mind is just that. Very few aspects of it coincide with reality other than the setting and structure of the beam/beacon area itself and perhaps the run channel to that beacon... which looks like the Mako drive to the conduit in ME1... even the debris off to the sides juts in a way matching the grass islands the colossus' are on.

And in both cases, Shep goes flying upwards at a collosal speed once the beam/conduit is reached.

Except we don't actually see Shepard fly up. The camera shoots up but we don't see Shepard go.

And where Shepard flies to is... next to the Citadel control panel. Why were other people sent there? Why were people sent back? Why aren't there anything but keepers if people are supposed to be indoctrinated there?

I think Hacket just assumed that Shepard is on the Citadel after he heard that someone made it. I think that beam isn't a conduit at all.

Also, side note. Why couldn't a vanguard Shepard charge their way to the 'conduit'?

MaximizedAction wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Yes, he seems like Harbinger's equal, but fighting for your side. I haven't talked to it yet obviously, but it would be a shame to have to destroy it. It's basically another Javik.
Javik, the last prothean, whose only life goal is killing reapers, teams up with Leviathan, a reaper, whose only goal is killing reapers.  Epic!

Hey now.  Leviathan can't help what he is.  Don't throw such a brutal insult as comparing him to Javik until we've talked to him and seen if he deserves such hate and contempt.

The perfect sitcom: Who's gonna throw whom out the airlock first?

I assume the punchline is that neither would actually die if thrown out?

Modifié par Simon_Says, 11 juillet 2012 - 12:44 .

[Vaya]

Silhouett3 wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

This effect is extraordinarily common as a transition effect in ME3- when you enter your ship, or the camera phases from one area to the next, it can show up. Given its use in other games and movies, I would say it's too generic to be considered a reasonable peice of evidence.

Really? I for one only noticed it during the dreams, the geth consensus and the last mission. Where else does it happen?

Whenever a harvester explodes. I caught it during the last fight scene, then went back to check and it's present in every harvester explosion.

They are quick, only a few frames and not the slow transitions present in the dreams, but they are there.

[byne]

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Hmm, I'm actually excited about the Multiplayer DLC. The classes look pretty cool, and Platinum difficulty sounds bloody fun xD

A mech-like Soldier...interesante and FINALLY a supply pylon thing. Very intriguing...

Please let them release the IT DLC before xmas!

Where did you see this MP DLC stuff?

Here

The link to the Piranha doesn't work, so here

Well, I dont think I'll ever play the new vanguard. I dont want to be a recolored Kai Leng.

[BleedingUranium]

Vaya wrote...

Silhouett3 wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

This effect is extraordinarily common as a transition effect in ME3- when you enter your ship, or the camera phases from one area to the next, it can show up. Given its use in other games and movies, I would say it's too generic to be considered a reasonable peice of evidence.

Really? I for one only noticed it during the dreams, the geth consensus and the last mission. Where else does it happen?

Whenever a harvester explodes. I caught it during the last fight scene, then went back to check and it's present in every harvester explosion.

They are quick, only a few frames and not the slow transitions present in the dreams, but they are there.

That's because the massive explosions blind you for a second. It's much, much shorter, so I don't think it really counts

[invetro]

Simon_Says wrote...

invetro wrote...

And in both cases, Shep goes flying upwards at a collosal speed once the beam/conduit is reached.

Except we don't actually see Shepard fly up. The camera shoots up but we don't see Shepard go.

And where Shepard flies to is... next to the Citadel control panel. Why were other people sent there? Why were people sent back? Why aren't there anything but keepers if people are supposed to be indoctrinated there?

I think Hacket just assumed that Shepard is on the Citadel after he heard that someone made it. I think that beam isn't a conduit at all.

It's heavily implied Shepard is going up, but true we don't see it. Although the camera also pans up the same way as it does in the ME1 conduit run, and Shepards entrance is reminiscent of the Mako's Citadel arrival.

[BleedingUranium]

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Hmm, I'm actually excited about the Multiplayer DLC. The classes look pretty cool, and Platinum difficulty sounds bloody fun xD

A mech-like Soldier...interesante and FINALLY a supply pylon thing. Very intriguing...

Please let them release the IT DLC before xmas!

Where did you see this MP DLC stuff?

Here

The link to the Piranha doesn't work, so here

Well, I dont think I'll ever play the new vanguard. I dont want to be a recolored Kai Leng.

Lol it's:

-Kasumi
-Terminus Armour
-Female Alliance Soldier
-Inferno Armour
-Phantom with LOKI mech helmet
-Kai Leng with LOKI mech helmet (male version)

-Typhoon is brand new
-Piranha is an Eviscerator back, Saber front, with a drum mag on top
-Acolyte is a shrunk Disciple

[RaidShock]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

I wonder why anderson's name in the subtitles turns to "admiral anderson" for no reason after shepard gets on to the citadel. He was never identified as "admiral anderson" anywhere else in the game was he? why now?

It is possibly a oversight bit I don't think so. Bioware doesn't really miss these kinds of things. My theory is that it changed because this is how the REAPERS identify Anderson. It would make sense that he would be called "Admiral Anderson" if Shepard was being indoctrinated.

Actually there are dozens of instances of small subtitle errors like this scattered throughout the series.

[Either.Ardrey]

Vaya wrote...

Silhouett3 wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

This effect is extraordinarily common as a transition effect in ME3- when you enter your ship, or the camera phases from one area to the next, it can show up. Given its use in other games and movies, I would say it's too generic to be considered a reasonable peice of evidence.

Really? I for one only noticed it during the dreams, the geth consensus and the last mission. Where else does it happen?

Whenever a harvester explodes. I caught it during the last fight scene, then went back to check and it's present in every harvester explosion.

They are quick, only a few frames and not the slow transitions present in the dreams, but they are there.

Quick orange exploding does not count as extended white phasing. As you sort of mentioned, we were talking about a very specific effect and that specific effect only and where it's used, so in this case Harvester explosions don't count.

[Simon_Says]

invetro wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

invetro wrote...

And in both cases, Shep goes flying upwards at a collosal speed once the beam/conduit is reached.

Except we don't actually see Shepard fly up. The camera shoots up but we don't see Shepard go.

And where Shepard flies to is... next to the Citadel control panel. Why were other people sent there? Why were people sent back? Why aren't there anything but keepers if people are supposed to be indoctrinated there?

I think Hacket just assumed that Shepard is on the Citadel after he heard that someone made it. I think that beam isn't a conduit at all.

It's heavily implied Shepard is going up, but true we don't see it. Although the camera also pans up the same way as it does in the ME1 conduit run, and Shepards entrance is reminiscent of the Mako's Citadel arrival.

There are similarities. But there's one major difference. Take a look at the original conduit run. What isn't there?

No beam of light.

Oh, and we also see the Mako fly up. Make that two major differences.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 11 juillet 2012 - 01:15 .

[byne]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Lol it's:

-Kasumi
-Terminus Armour
-Female Alliance Soldier
-Inferno Armour
-Phantom with LOKI mech helmet
-Kai Leng with LOKI mech helmet (male version)

-Typhoon is brand new
-Piranha is an Eviscerator back, Saber front, with a drum mag on top
-Acolyte is a shrunk Disciple

Proably my biggest problem with just the pictures, not actually saying anything about the classes, is why the hell the human N7 soldier has a damned turian rifle.

I'd hafta say like the look of the engineer the best.



Looks like a female version of James' and Kaidan's alternate outfit:



I totally want that gear for FemShep.

[BansheeOwnage]

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Hmm, I'm actually excited about the Multiplayer DLC. The classes look pretty cool, and Platinum difficulty sounds bloody fun xD

A mech-like Soldier...interesante and FINALLY a supply pylon thing. Very intriguing...

Please let them release the IT DLC before xmas!

Where did you see this MP DLC stuff?

Here

The link to the Piranha doesn't work, so here

Well, I dont think I'll ever play the new vanguard. I dont want to be a recolored Kai Leng.

Lol it's:

-Kasumi
-Terminus Armour
-Female Alliance Soldier
-Inferno Armour
-Phantom with LOKI mech helmet
-Kai Leng with LOKI mech helmet (male version)

-Typhoon is brand new
-Piranha is an Eviscerator back, Saber front, with a drum mag on top
-Acolyte is a shrunk Disciple

- Donut: Wow! They took all my suggestions!
Looking foward to the Kasumi, transformer, female marine, shadow broker, phantom, and Kai Leng classes.
I imagine most if not all of the new stuff is ultra rare.
Edit: Totally thought the Acolyte pistol was asari!

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 11 juillet 2012 - 01:12 .

[Either.Ardrey]

Emiya_Archer wrote...

Hi! Been digging through the EC files and found more info about the Rio mp map from the Earth dlc. Here goes.

One of the names of the husk/marines scene (synthusk i'm looking at you) is End03_C_LondonRio_Outro.bik.

I've calculated the time diference based on the time displayed on Big Ben and it ads up.

So what you think guys?

I think it means that we saw a scene in Rio and a scene in London in the ending videos...

[BansheeOwnage]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Emiya_Archer wrote...

Hi! Been digging through the EC files and found more info about the Rio mp map from the Earth dlc. Here goes.

One of the names of the husk/marines scene (synthusk i'm looking at you) is End03_C_LondonRio_Outro.bik.

I've calculated the time diference based on the time displayed on Big Ben and it ads up.

So what you think guys?

I think it means that we saw a scene in Rio and a scene in London in the ending videos...

Which fits one of BleedingUranium's ideas that after Shep wakes up you go to Rio and the whole "Take Earth Back" trailer segment is there.

[Either.Ardrey]

byne wrote...

I'd hafta say like the look of the engineer the best.



Looks like a female version of James' and Kaidan's alternate outfit:



I totally want that gear for FemShep.

As an artist, I must concur. Most of them, design-wise, felt off. The reskin often clashes with the model(s) used. The original designs (Kai Leng, Phantom, etc) fit better because they were concepted by concept artists. I doubt these were. The engineer, however, actually works.

[Vaya]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Vaya wrote...

Silhouett3 wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

This effect is extraordinarily common as a transition effect in ME3- when you enter your ship, or the camera phases from one area to the next, it can show up. Given its use in other games and movies, I would say it's too generic to be considered a reasonable peice of evidence.

Really? I for one only noticed it during the dreams, the geth consensus and the last mission. Where else does it happen?

Whenever a harvester explodes. I caught it during the last fight scene, then went back to check and it's present in every harvester explosion.

They are quick, only a few frames and not the slow transitions present in the dreams, but they are there.

That's because the massive explosions blind you for a second. It's much, much shorter, so I don't think it really counts

I think the dream state transition is thematically significant, but these things aren't absolutes. Even if a director uses the color yellow to indicate deception, not every instance of yellow in the film will be deceptive. Its something to be careful of.

Silhouett asked where else it happened so I answered.

added:

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Quick orange exploding does not count as extended white phasing. As you sort of mentioned, we were talking about a very specific effect and that specific effect only and where it's used, so in this case Harvester explosions don't count.

The bloom at the end of the explosion ( which itself I wouldn't exactly call "quick") is the exact same effect as the transition, its the only reason I noticed it. We don't get to pick which things count and which don't, we just need to look at thing critically, which is why people here don't accept the literal endings in the first place.

Modifié par Vaya, 11 juillet 2012 - 01:29 .

[BleedingUranium]

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Lol it's:

-Kasumi
-Terminus Armour
-Female Alliance Soldier
-Inferno Armour
-Phantom with LOKI mech helmet
-Kai Leng with LOKI mech helmet (male version)

-Typhoon is brand new
-Piranha is an Eviscerator back, Saber front, with a drum mag on top
-Acolyte is a shrunk Disciple

Proably my biggest problem with just the pictures, not actually saying anything about the classes, is why the hell the human N7 soldier has a damned turian rifle.

I'd hafta say like the look of the engineer the best.



Looks like a female version of James' and Kaidan's alternate outfit:



I totally want that gear for FemShep.

Only three have guns, the Engy has the Crusader (N7), the Sentinel has the Eagle (N7), but the Soldier has the Phaeston  Maybe because they still haven't added the Valkyrie to MP yet? They added the Particle Rifle today, but they still need to add the Valkyrie, Argus, Raider, and Chakram Launcher

Yeah, that's what I meant by Alliance Soldier, this seems to be the alternate to the one we see them all in on Earth.

[invetro]

Simon_Says wrote...

invetro wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

invetro wrote...

And in both cases, Shep goes flying upwards at a collosal speed once the beam/conduit is reached.

Except we don't actually see Shepard fly up. The camera shoots up but we don't see Shepard go.

And where Shepard flies to is... next to the Citadel control panel. Why were other people sent there? Why were people sent back? Why aren't there anything but keepers if people are supposed to be indoctrinated there?

I think Hacket just assumed that Shepard is on the Citadel after he heard that someone made it. I think that beam isn't a conduit at all.

It's heavily implied Shepard is going up, but true we don't see it. Although the camera also pans up the same way as it does in the ME1 conduit run, and Shepards entrance is reminiscent of the Mako's Citadel arrival.

There are similarities. But there's one major difference. Take a look at the original conduit run. What isn't there?

No beam of light.

Oh, and we also see the Mako fly up.

I figured there was no beam of light because this one was a relay, whereas the conduit in 3 was just a beam, but now you've got me thinking. It comes up as "conduit" during the run down as a waypoint marker if I'm correct. Why would the reapers have two completely different looking methods of transportation that do an identical job? Why not just land a small relay looking structure instead of something that can be seen for miles around?

It's just shiny bait to draw people in, then goodness knows what happens.

[BleedingUranium]

Vaya wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Vaya wrote...

Silhouett3 wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

This effect is extraordinarily common as a transition effect in ME3- when you enter your ship, or the camera phases from one area to the next, it can show up. Given its use in other games and movies, I would say it's too generic to be considered a reasonable peice of evidence.

Really? I for one only noticed it during the dreams, the geth consensus and the last mission. Where else does it happen?

Whenever a harvester explodes. I caught it during the last fight scene, then went back to check and it's present in every harvester explosion.

They are quick, only a few frames and not the slow transitions present in the dreams, but they are there.

That's because the massive explosions blind you for a second. It's much, much shorter, so I don't think it really counts

I think the dream state transition is thematically significant, but these things aren't absolutes. Even if a director uses the color yellow to indicate deception, not every instance of yellow in the film will be deceptive. Its something to be careful of.

Silhouett asked where else it happened so I answered.

Just like the Predator. Not everytime you see it it's important, by nature of being the default pistol, but everytime there's something very Paragon, or fighting indoctrination, it's a Predator. Not only people breaking indoc by killing themselves, but every single cutscene involving Kai Leng.

[Turbo_J]

Simon_Says wrote...

invetro wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

invetro wrote...

And in both cases, Shep goes flying upwards at a collosal speed once the beam/conduit is reached.

Except we don't actually see Shepard fly up. The camera shoots up but we don't see Shepard go.

And where Shepard flies to is... next to the Citadel control panel. Why were other people sent there? Why were people sent back? Why aren't there anything but keepers if people are supposed to be indoctrinated there?

I think Hacket just assumed that Shepard is on the Citadel after he heard that someone made it. I think that beam isn't a conduit at all.

It's heavily implied Shepard is going up, but true we don't see it. Although the camera also pans up the same way as it does in the ME1 conduit run, and Shepards entrance is reminiscent of the Mako's Citadel arrival.

There are similarities. But there's one major difference. Take a look at the original conduit run. What isn't there?

No beam of light.

Oh, and we also see the Mako fly up. Make that two major differences.

Yes, it flies up in a beam of light... similar enough.

It's all past memory association mixed in with some elements from reality to create the illusion we see through Shepard. (but, that's just my take on it.)

Not one thing that takes place after the truck/transport crash is fully real, and I suspect that nothing after the harbinger hit happens the way we see it at all, save for the staggering, maybe.

I think there is some staggering, drooling, muttering... and shooting followed by an explosion; if you do it right, of course.

[comrade gando]

RaidShock wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

I wonder why anderson's name in the subtitles turns to "admiral anderson" for no reason after shepard gets on to the citadel. He was never identified as "admiral anderson" anywhere else in the game was he? why now?

It is possibly a oversight bit I don't think so. Bioware doesn't really miss these kinds of things. My theory is that it changed because this is how the REAPERS identify Anderson. It would make sense that he would be called "Admiral Anderson" if Shepard was being indoctrinated.

Actually there are dozens of instances of small subtitle errors like this scattered throughout the series.

dozens you say? I need one more example of where they gave somebody a different name. If it's like admiral tali'zorah or admiral hackett in particular scenes then ok I guess I'll admit the admiral anderson is pretty weak.

odd mistake to make though...

why does everybody outrank shepard? : /

[BleedingUranium]

comrade gando wrote...

RaidShock wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

I wonder why anderson's name in the subtitles turns to "admiral anderson" for no reason after shepard gets on to the citadel. He was never identified as "admiral anderson" anywhere else in the game was he? why now?

It is possibly a oversight bit I don't think so. Bioware doesn't really miss these kinds of things. My theory is that it changed because this is how the REAPERS identify Anderson. It would make sense that he would be called "Admiral Anderson" if Shepard was being indoctrinated.

Actually there are dozens of instances of small subtitle errors like this scattered throughout the series.

dozens you say? I need one more example of where they gave somebody a different name. If it's like admiral tali'zorah or admiral hackett in particular scenes then ok I guess I'll admit the admiral anderson is pretty weak.

odd mistake to make though...

why does everybody outrank shepard? : /

I only know of one: when Legion first says "Shepard-Commander" the subtitles say "Legion" when they obviously shouldn't. All the rest of his lines until he gets the name say "Geth"

[Chriz Tah Fah]

RaidShock wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

I wonder why anderson's name in the subtitles turns to "admiral anderson" for no reason after shepard gets on to the citadel. He was never identified as "admiral anderson" anywhere else in the game was he? why now?

It is possibly a oversight bit I don't think so. Bioware doesn't really miss these kinds of things. My theory is that it changed because this is how the REAPERS identify Anderson. It would make sense that he would be called "Admiral Anderson" if Shepard was being indoctrinated.

Actually there are dozens of instances of small subtitle errors like this scattered throughout the series.

Key word being "scattered." The quantity of them at this part of the game is astounding. One here, one there, yeah they probably made an error. But, the quantity at the end...it doesn't fit.

[Chriz Tah Fah]

BleedingUranium wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

RaidShock wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

I wonder why anderson's name in the subtitles turns to "admiral anderson" for no reason after shepard gets on to the citadel. He was never identified as "admiral anderson" anywhere else in the game was he? why now?

It is possibly a oversight bit I don't think so. Bioware doesn't really miss these kinds of things. My theory is that it changed because this is how the REAPERS identify Anderson. It would make sense that he would be called "Admiral Anderson" if Shepard was being indoctrinated.

Actually there are dozens of instances of small subtitle errors like this scattered throughout the series.

dozens you say? I need one more example of where they gave somebody a different name. If it's like admiral tali'zorah or admiral hackett in particular scenes then ok I guess I'll admit the admiral anderson is pretty weak.

odd mistake to make though...

why does everybody outrank shepard? : /

I only know of one: when Legion first says "Shepard-Commander" the subtitles say "Legion" when they obviously shouldn't. All the rest of his lines until he gets the name say "Geth"

I think this was because Shepard actually thought it was Legion at first.

[BansheeOwnage]

BleedingUranium wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

RaidShock wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

I wonder why anderson's name in the subtitles turns to "admiral anderson" for no reason after shepard gets on to the citadel. He was never identified as "admiral anderson" anywhere else in the game was he? why now?

It is possibly a oversight bit I don't think so. Bioware doesn't really miss these kinds of things. My theory is that it changed because this is how the REAPERS identify Anderson. It would make sense that he would be called "Admiral Anderson" if Shepard was being indoctrinated.

Actually there are dozens of instances of small subtitle errors like this scattered throughout the series.

dozens you say? I need one more example of where they gave somebody a different name. If it's like admiral tali'zorah or admiral hackett in particular scenes then ok I guess I'll admit the admiral anderson is pretty weak.

odd mistake to make though...

why does everybody outrank shepard? : /

I only know of one: when Legion first says "Shepard-Commander" the subtitles say "Legion" when they obviously shouldn't. All the rest of his lines until he gets the name say "Geth"

Curiously they didn't do that with the child. After he says "I am the Catalyst" the subtitles don't change like Legion. No, I would agree the "admiral" thing is might be an oversight except they didn't fix it in EC. They made is weirder. I mean everyone knew about this "error". It's very suggestive like the "relay chain not starting in the Sol system" thing that they also didn't fix.