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[MegumiAzusa]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Just saying "Hi! Still alive" and hitting the sack, night all.

[demersel]

Rosewind wrote...

demersel wrote...

Guys! listen, and idea just came to me....Remember that promotianal art for ME3? The one that is still at the main page - the one that says "NOW AVAILABLE!" in huge bold letters? Think about it - what do we see there? we see shepard in his armor standing among the rubble looking at incoming reapers.

The collector's edition box has the same art on it, with a small addition - on the other side there is a close up picture of some one picking up someone from concrete rubble. one of the hand has N7 stripe (it looks like the one that helping the other to stand up) , the other one is burned and bloody. Both of those picture luke like it is early morning. (a break of dawn, if you will)..

Now... having played ME3....when does any of it, or something similiar happen? When do we pick up someone from concrete rubble on earth?

I think that is a picture of shepard getting pulled out of the rubble after the breath scene. (though it is implied that it shepard that is pulling someone from the rubble, while taking back earth. I think that it is a poetic image meaning shepard is pulling himself up, like his undamaged spirit and resolve helps to pick himself up and face the fight (the big artwork)).

Thoughts?

*Snip*

Didn't some one say they bringing N7 people into MP maybe it represents us in MP with an N7 helping save shepard?

no. the ingame lore clearly states, that N7 in the multyplayer are not really N7 - they are just bunch of guys that have been through hell and beyond and started to call themselves N7 - they are just war veterans, not really N7, but since there is a war going on, everyone is to busy to correct them. (codex entry on the N7 spec ops team in the war assets menu). So there are no N7 operatives among the MP characters YET. )))

Modifié par demersel, 11 juillet 2012 - 12:49 .

[Macross]

Turbo_J wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

Macross wrote...

Okay, so this is something I've been thinking about lately and I know it's probably been brought up already but it's something to talk about and I want opinions.

So... the Fade white. The fade to white happens in ME3 at the end of dreams (I can't remember if it's there at the start of them) but it also happens in another place. It happens while your in the geth consensus. Specifically it happens each time you had one of the access points and are transferred to a new section of the consensus.

In the Endings, the Fade to white also appears. In two place, firstly when you hit the conduit and are transported up to the citadel (a scene which is some what similar to the way the Access points in the Geth Consensus are portrayed) and secondly in the transition from the room where the confrontation between Illusive Man and Anderson happens to the are with Starbinger in it.

So yeah. I'm not sure what I'm getting at but the similarities between the two are interesting.

And you get the transitioning in Control and Synthesis.
It's well known but I/we appreciate that you brought it up.

You forget the most important transition. As you said, these happen inside the Geth consensus to show going from one place to another inside a VR. It would make sense that they express the same thing when Shepard is dreaming/hallucination... going from one place in a dream to another.

When Shepard gets hit by Harbinger's beam, it's the first transition we see in London. They are already in a dream/hallucinating state when hit.

Or it could be Shep entering the dream/hallucination. I'm  pretty sure you also get the transition when you first enter the consensus. 

I'm also interested, are there any points of White transition in London?

[Brother Takka]

well i watched the 1 hour and 24 mins Indoc documentary that clever noob did, and After the EC they fill in a few of the Indeoc arguments. Now I wanted Indoc to be real, as it was a better end than what we had. but for me the EC just shot Indoc down.

[Macross]

@Dem, It's confirmed... or pretty much confirmed that the character being added in the Earht DLC are actual N7 and not mercs. 

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...
And you get the transitioning in Control and Synthesis.
It's well known but I/we appreciate that you brought it up.

But not in Destroy, or Refuse?

It's couple pages ago. But AFAIK not, at least I am not sure.
Someone should clarify this. If not, it could be evidence, though I wouldn't be happy with either be real. (Because that'd mean, that EDI and the geth are really dead, from what you can see of Destroy (EDI's name plague, no geth in slide show), and Refusal, well, I think that's acceptable.)

I confirmed a few pages ago that Destroy and Refuse DO NOT have the transition light while Control and Synthesis do.

Where are they in the endings. I'm gone through the videos of all of them and can't find those final White Transiations after meetign the catalyst. 

[MegumiAzusa]

UltimateTobi wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I think you mean "guttural."

No, I actually mean beautiful.

That's a beautiful one for sure.  Ever seen one of the all white ones?  My sister bred two of her pure GS, both the classic black and tan, and was shocked when 3 of the pups came out snow white.  Just gorgeous creatures.

The language is still icky though.

I guess I saw such white dogs once. Cuties.
I am German myself, so thee feel insulted.
*drags white glove and slaps you*

I am German myself and have to agree with Rifneno even if I don't want to.

[MegumiAzusa]

TSA_383 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...
And you get the transitioning in Control and Synthesis.
It's well known but I/we appreciate that you brought it up.

But not in Destroy, or Refuse?

You get the white flashes big-time in Destroy...

Yes, but they are all < 0.5s

[iiNOMADii]

So what's the current IT consensus on how it would be revealed?

Are you thinking it would be through additional ME3 DLC or a new Mass Effect (4)?

[UltimateTobi]

Control
Synthesis (Only white flash-transitioning where's no explosion.)
Destroy (Closest I could find, but it's not like the dreamy transitioning, more like a little brighter white flash.)
Refusal (No white transitioning found, but I took (presumably) Harbinger flying by.)

Edited the Control link, the beginning might be a step out of light, but the outfade is the white transition.

Modifié par UltimateTobi, 11 juillet 2012 - 12:57 .

[demersel]

iiNOMADii wrote...

So what's the current IT consensus on how it would be revealed?

Are you thinking it would be through additional ME3 DLC or a new Mass Effect (4)?

personally i think it would be revealed at the EC expiration date. 

[Rosewind]

iiNOMADii wrote...

So what's the current IT consensus on how it would be revealed?

Are you thinking it would be through additional ME3 DLC or a new Mass Effect (4)?

God I hope it is not a ME4

[MaximizedAction]

Turbo_J wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

Macross wrote...

Okay, so this is something I've been thinking about lately and I know it's probably been brought up already but it's something to talk about and I want opinions.

So... the Fade white. The fade to white happens in ME3 at the end of dreams (I can't remember if it's there at the start of them) but it also happens in another place. It happens while your in the geth consensus. Specifically it happens each time you had one of the access points and are transferred to a new section of the consensus.

In the Endings, the Fade to white also appears. In two place, firstly when you hit the conduit and are transported up to the citadel (a scene which is some what similar to the way the Access points in the Geth Consensus are portrayed) and secondly in the transition from the room where the confrontation between Illusive Man and Anderson happens to the are with Starbinger in it.

So yeah. I'm not sure what I'm getting at but the similarities between the two are interesting.

And you get the transitioning in Control and Synthesis.
It's well known but I/we appreciate that you brought it up.

You forget the most important transition. As you said, these happen inside the Geth consensus to show going from one place to another inside a VR. It would make sense that they express the same thing when Shepard is dreaming/hallucination... going from one place in a dream to another.

When Shepard gets hit by Harbinger's beam, it's the first transition we see in London. They are already in a dream/hallucinating state when hit.

If not for the purpose of introducing the idea that human conciousness can be put into a VR environment AND to show what certain things might look like (emphasized white transitions occuring more than once, Legion informing you the environment is based on the subject percieving it), what other point is there to making that one Rannoch mission, at all?
It has no combat, there are much more easier ways to design it (just make it like another random N7 mission) etc. It even felt like a tutorial to me.

[MegumiAzusa]

UltimateTobi wrote...

Control
Synthesis (Only white flash-transitioning where's no explosion.)
Destroy (Closest I could find, but it's not like the dreamy transitioning, more like a little brighter white flash.)
Refusal (No white transitioning found, but I took (presumably) Harbinger flying by.)

There are at least 3 of these:

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 11 juillet 2012 - 01:00 .

[iiNOMADii]

Rosewind wrote...

iiNOMADii wrote...

So what's the current IT consensus on how it would be revealed?

Are you thinking it would be through additional ME3 DLC or a new Mass Effect (4)?

God I hope it is not a ME4

I honestly don't see any other practical way of doing it, though.  DLC seems like it would be ridiculous (pay to see the REAL ending...unless it's free I suppose).  

[Macross]

UltimateTobi wrote...

Control
Synthesis (Only white flash-transitioning where's no explosion.)
Destroy (Closest I could find, but it's not like the dreamy transitioning, more like a little brighter white flash.)
Refusal (No white transitioning found, but I took (presumably) Harbinger flying by.)

Oh wow interesting. With Synthesis I was looking for all the obviouse place a transiation would be (like at the start and end of each sequence) but the fact that it's in the sequence itself is rather interesting. 

Control seems to be more of a semi-transition in the sense that something is acutally physically happening with the white stuff (in this case shepard walking forward). 

Destory, they're clearly part of the explosition so I don't think it counts .


On another note, anyway notice how similar the end of the Rannoch mission can be to the end game?

You have basically 3 choices. Destroy the Geth, Have Legion Scarfice himself and spread his programming/essence to the other Geth and then the geth go and synthesis with the quarians to fix the Quarians weak immune system, or Legion dies to give the geth strength (you kno , the whole progamming spread thing) Quarians annhilated and Shepard gets an army of synthetis. 

Just thought it was a fun match up to the end. 

[UltimateTobi]

Macross wrote...

Control seems to be more of a semi-transition in the sense that something is acutally physically happening with the white stuff (in this case shepard walking forward).

I edited the Control link. The fade in is a step out of light. But the fade-out is the transitioning. Have a look again.

[MegumiAzusa]

Macross wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

Control
Synthesis (Only white flash-transitioning where's no explosion.)
Destroy (Closest I could find, but it's not like the dreamy transitioning, more like a little brighter white flash.)
Refusal (No white transitioning found, but I took (presumably) Harbinger flying by.)

Oh wow interesting. With Synthesis I was looking for all the obviouse place a transiation would be (like at the start and end of each sequence) but the fact that it's in the sequence itself is rather interesting. 

Control seems to be more of a semi-transition in the sense that something is acutally physically happening with the white stuff (in this case shepard walking forward). 

Destory, they're clearly part of the explosition so I don't think it counts.

The ones I mentioned have nothing to do with the explosion. But as said they are <0.5s

[Andromidius]

Sigh. So EA responded to my email.

With a standard form not even really addressing my issue. Its even blantantly a scan from a paper copy.

Fabulous customer service...

[UltimateTobi]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

There are at least 3 of these:

That is interesting. That's a split second. Makes sense; fighting the Indoctrination, and coming closer and closer to consciousness.

[UltimateTobi]

Andromidius wrote...

Sigh. So EA responded to my email.

With a standard form not even really addressing my issue. Its even blantantly a scan from a paper copy.

Fabulous customer service...

Use the live chat support. They're nice and friendly. Always helped me.

[Rosewind]

iiNOMADii wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

iiNOMADii wrote...

So what's the current IT consensus on how it would be revealed?

Are you thinking it would be through additional ME3 DLC or a new Mass Effect (4)?

God I hope it is not a ME4

I honestly don't see any other practical way of doing it, though.  DLC seems like it would be ridiculous (pay to see the REAL ending...unless it's free I suppose).  

How about an expansion, cause the way I see it the game is finished we just don't know what happens after the end.

[Macross]

@Tobi, interesting, but yeah, makes far more sense. Also, I love how it then zooms out of a Reaper, I can see the literalist interpretations to it, but from an IT perspective it's all fun.

@Megumi Yeah, but they are in sync with the gun going off, so I don't know.

[CoolioThane]

iiNOMADii wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

iiNOMADii wrote...

So what's the current IT consensus on how it would be revealed?

Are you thinking it would be through additional ME3 DLC or a new Mass Effect (4)?

God I hope it is not a ME4

I honestly don't see any other practical way of doing it, though.  DLC seems like it would be ridiculous (pay to see the REAL ending...unless it's free I suppose).  

But IT could work like an expansion pack. Remember those days? God I loved expansion packs...If you add all DLC together it could be classed as an Expansion pack, but I'm hoping IT works similarly to Awakening for DA:O...that'd be ****ing amazing

[UltimateTobi]

Macross wrote...

@Tobi, interesting, but yeah, makes far more sense. Also, I love how it then zooms out of a Reaper, I can see the literalist interpretations to it, but from an IT perspective it's all fun.

@Megumi Yeah, but they are in sync with the gun going off, so I don't know.

Whisely placed transitioning with the Reaper. Barely noticable. And both, ITer and literalists can have their interpretations.

And as for the gun in Destroy, we can leave that for speculation I guess.

[MegumiAzusa]

Macross wrote...

@Megumi Yeah, but they are in sync with the gun going off, so I don't know.

You can clearly see differences, some gunshots don't have that and their flashes are different to non existent.