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[Makrys]

Big G13 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Damnit! Each time I see Makrys' profile pic, I immediately think of Waldstr!

LOL. Me too. Total pavlovian reflex reaction.

Sorry to dissapoint? 

No Ill will intended towards you. You just share an avatar with the most frustratingly ignorant troll this thread has ever seen.

Ah, I see. Well, then I hope I can build a better reputation for this avatar. I can't imagine someone as foolish as that bearing such a lovely av. I will certainly make a better mark for it. Considering, its *cough* she's worth it. 

[MegumiAzusa]

I was just rewatching this (great review by sfdebris btw) as I noticed something: he talks about how in ME2 your main enemy are the Collectors and that there is lots of talk about it, but you rarely face them, only in 3 missions to be exact.
Now in ME3 the focal point is again the Reapers, and there are again 3 missions that actually are about defeating them, but again you never really take out one of the big ones.
And another thing he mentioned at the end of the review: "but the frequent references in the game is to humanities wide genetic variance, not to mention the plague on Omega was to force such mutations on other species" note that these references aren't only by Harbinger, but also as a side note in Mordin's loyalty mission. Now if we look specifically at synthesis: does this in any way support any genetic variance? I guess not, as one of the goals is to make something more equal.
I don't think BioWare would just drop this. Also Tali specifically mentions Haestrom in ME3 while mourning after Legion sacrificed itself, Freedom's Progress is never mentioned, it's mentioned in a dialog when doing the Tuchanka bomb with her (seems again like ME2 is was planned to be more open instead of streamlined), and it's a side note for a conversation with Liara when choosing her for the Dreadnought.

[EpyonX3]

estebanus wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

I noticed the workbench bobbing and the bobbing gun on my first play through. Didn't pay any mind since I didn't know what was coming. Very strange thing to miss during testing.

That's not something you miss. That's something you literally have to go aut of your way to even implement.

Right I can't fight this one. The definitely intended it since the sway isn't always on and there's no reason to load it into memory before the beam push. I'd understand if you restart the mission after getting hit by the beam and the sway stays in memory but it was my first playthrough.

Sorry if it seems like I snapped at you. That was not my intention.

Also, it's nice that at least you don't resort to the "BIOWARE IS LAZY!!11ONE!!" line.

No need for apologies I didn't take it that way.

Lol I still don't think bioware is lazy because of a few glitches. The made a fine game.

[EpyonX3]

blooregard wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

strangely enough, does anyone here not think that ME2/3 or both is nothing but a dream the whole time and we just do not get it?

I don't think so. That would invalidate a LOT of gameplay to something that's "just a dream". 

And then what's to stop us from thinking that Shepard went mad from the beacon on Eden Prime and dreamed all of it up?

As it stands we have Buzz Aldrin telling a story to a kid...that was our adventure...every erotic moment, every disgusting alien, every gruesome battle the ast 2.9 games were a story being told to a child by his grandpa. if thats not as invalidating as "it was all a dream" its pretty damn close.


I personally have no problem with the "it was all a dream" trope but it has to be used right.

Wizard of Oz: incorrect usage (gets a free pass for being one of the first)
Gurren-Lagann: correct usage

I didn't see it that way. I just thought this was a whole life continues scene and the people who lived there started over with little to no tech.

[RavenEyry]

The lazy thing is horrible circular logic. The ending sucks so Bioware must be lazy. IT must be wrong because Bioware is lazy.

[blooregard]

EpyonX3 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

strangely enough, does anyone here not think that ME2/3 or both is nothing but a dream the whole time and we just do not get it?

I don't think so. That would invalidate a LOT of gameplay to something that's "just a dream". 

And then what's to stop us from thinking that Shepard went mad from the beacon on Eden Prime and dreamed all of it up?

As it stands we have Buzz Aldrin telling a story to a kid...that was our adventure...every erotic moment, every disgusting alien, every gruesome battle the ast 2.9 games were a story being told to a child by his grandpa. if thats not as invalidating as "it was all a dream" its pretty damn close.


I personally have no problem with the "it was all a dream" trope but it has to be used right.

Wizard of Oz: incorrect usage (gets a free pass for being one of the first)
Gurren-Lagann: correct usage

I didn't see it that way. I just thought this was a whole life continues scene and the people who lived there started over with little to no tech.

Well since that scene will probably stay I think its safe to assume that even with IT the entire 3 games will be invalidated as a story told to a child by a senile old man.

[dreamgazer]

This'd be an interesting exercise: picking apart all the components of the "ending is intentionally surreal" hypothesis and tying them to previous, popular works of science-fiction or fantasy. I've discovered that it can assuredly be done---and in my mind, that's important since those widely-digested works have set a precedent and planted the ideas in people's heads. Many have seen a lot of these things before.

Modifié par dreamgazer, 22 mai 2012 - 05:16 .

[byne]

EpyonX3 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

As it stands we have Buzz Aldrin telling a story to a kid...that was our adventure...every erotic moment, every disgusting alien, every gruesome battle the ast 2.9 games were a story being told to a child by his grandpa. if thats not as invalidating as "it was all a dream" its pretty damn close.


I personally have no problem with the "it was all a dream" trope but it has to be used right.

Wizard of Oz: incorrect usage (gets a free pass for being one of the first)
Gurren-Lagann: correct usage

I didn't see it that way. I just thought this was a whole life continues scene and the people who lived there started over with little to no tech.

Why dont they have tech though?

Unless its a specific destroy ending, they'd still have tech.

Apparently the game files also indicate that the stargazer scene takes place 10,000 years after the end of the game, meaning its 10,000 years later and our crew's descendants are still stranded on that damned planet with no tech.

Hell, Tali said give her element zero and a circuit board and she'd have it making precision FTL jumps, yet no one from the Normandy crash ever rebuilt a FTL ship of any kind?

The stargazer scene is just awful on so many levels

[MegumiAzusa]

dreamgazer wrote...

This'd be an interesting exercise: picking apart all the components of the "ending is intentionally surreal" hypothesis and tying them to previous, popular works of science-fiction or fantasy. I've discovered that it can assuredly be done---and in my mind, that's important since those widely-digested works have set a precedent and planted the ideas in people's heads. Many have seen a lot of these things before.

Still they don't expect them to be covered by a video game. And expectation > recognition.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 22 mai 2012 - 05:20 .

[dreamgazer]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

This'd be an interesting exercise: picking apart all the components of the "ending is intentionally surreal" hypothesis and tying them to previous, popular works of science-fiction or fantasy. I've discovered that it can assuredly be done---and in my mind, that's important since those widely-digested works have set a precedent and planted the ideas in people's heads. Many have seen a lot of these things before.

Still they don't expect them to be covered by a video game.

Expect? No. But these aren't foreign ideas.

[MegumiAzusa]

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

As it stands we have Buzz Aldrin telling a story to a kid...that was our adventure...every erotic moment, every disgusting alien, every gruesome battle the ast 2.9 games were a story being told to a child by his grandpa. if thats not as invalidating as "it was all a dream" its pretty damn close.


I personally have no problem with the "it was all a dream" trope but it has to be used right.

Wizard of Oz: incorrect usage (gets a free pass for being one of the first)
Gurren-Lagann: correct usage

I didn't see it that way. I just thought this was a whole life continues scene and the people who lived there started over with little to no tech.

Why dont they have tech though?

Unless its a specific destroy ending, they'd still have tech.

Apparently the game files also indicate that the stargazer scene takes place 10,000 years after the end of the game, meaning its 10,000 years later and our crew's descendants are still stranded on that damned planet with no tech.

Hell, Tali said give her element zero and a circuit board and she'd have it making precision FTL jumps, yet no one from the Normandy crash ever rebuilt a FTL ship of any kind?

The stargazer scene is just awful on so many levels

Eezo/the mass effect is a product from dark energy, now we know when the Crucible is shooting it seems like the mass relays get drained or someone pulled the plug on the mass effect core. Could be that the Crucible destroys Eezo or Dark Energy (which would render the Eezo inert), hence most of the technology we rely on. This is also seen as the Reapers don't really get destroyed but again it just looks like someone pulled the plug in the "destroy" ending.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 22 mai 2012 - 05:30 .

[byne]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Eezo/the mass effect is a product from dark energy, now we know when the Crucible is shooting it seems like the mass relays get drained or someone pulled the plug on the mass effect core. Could be that the Crucible destroys Eezo or Dark Energy (which would render the Eezo inert), hence most of the technology we rely on.

Except we were already building Jump Zero out beyond the orbit of Pluto in 2143, and we didnt discover mass effect technology until 5 years later.

So sure, maybe they cant build a FTL drive without eezo, but theres really no reason they wouldnt have tech, and even slow starships to just explore the local system after 10,000 years.

[MegumiAzusa]

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Eezo/the mass effect is a product from dark energy, now we know when the Crucible is shooting it seems like the mass relays get drained or someone pulled the plug on the mass effect core. Could be that the Crucible destroys Eezo or Dark Energy (which would render the Eezo inert), hence most of the technology we rely on.

Except we were already building Jump Zero out beyond the orbit of Pluto in 2143, and we didnt discover mass effect technology until 5 years later.

So sure, maybe they cant build a FTL drive without eezo, but theres really no reason they wouldnt have tech, and even slow starships to just explore the local system after 10,000 years.

If it's really the Normandy crew I would rather wonder how they sustain a viable population. Also it's never said that they don't have space travel again, it's just that you can't see it in the scene. The "one day my sweet" could just mean "when you're old enough".

[EpyonX3]

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

As it stands we have Buzz Aldrin telling a story to a kid...that was our adventure...every erotic moment, every disgusting alien, every gruesome battle the ast 2.9 games were a story being told to a child by his grandpa. if thats not as invalidating as "it was all a dream" its pretty damn close.


I personally have no problem with the "it was all a dream" trope but it has to be used right.

Wizard of Oz: incorrect usage (gets a free pass for being one of the first)
Gurren-Lagann: correct usage

I didn't see it that way. I just thought this was a whole life continues scene and the people who lived there started over with little to no tech.

Why dont they have tech though?

Unless its a specific destroy ending, they'd still have tech.

Apparently the game files also indicate that the stargazer scene takes place 10,000 years after the end of the game, meaning its 10,000 years later and our crew's descendants are still stranded on that damned planet with no tech.

Hell, Tali said give her element zero and a circuit board and she'd have it making precision FTL jumps, yet no one from the Normandy crash ever rebuilt a FTL ship of any kind?

The stargazer scene is just awful on so many levels

Well assuming that the ship is the only thing technological on the planet and it was mostly damaged, I can't see how they're able to make much out of it and would have to start civilization from scratch in all endings.

I'm with you on the stargazer ending, though.

[blooregard]

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

As it stands we have Buzz Aldrin telling a story to a kid...that was our adventure...every erotic moment, every disgusting alien, every gruesome battle the ast 2.9 games were a story being told to a child by his grandpa. if thats not as invalidating as "it was all a dream" its pretty damn close.


I personally have no problem with the "it was all a dream" trope but it has to be used right.

Wizard of Oz: incorrect usage (gets a free pass for being one of the first)
Gurren-Lagann: correct usage

I didn't see it that way. I just thought this was a whole life continues scene and the people who lived there started over with little to no tech.

Why dont they have tech though?

Unless its a specific destroy ending, they'd still have tech.

Apparently the game files also indicate that the stargazer scene takes place 10,000 years after the end of the game, meaning its 10,000 years later and our crew's descendants are still stranded on that damned planet with no tech.

Hell, Tali said give her element zero and a circuit board and she'd have it making precision FTL jumps, yet no one from the Normandy crash ever rebuilt a FTL ship of any kind?

The stargazer scene is just awful on so many levels

Well assuming that the ship is the only thing technological on the planet and it was mostly damaged, I can't see how they're able to make much out of it and would have to start civilization from scratch in all endings.

I'm with you on the stargazer ending, though.

We should worry about the 10,000 years later time stamp. That colony would probably be an incest filled hell hole with mostly Asari 

[TSA_383]

Makrys wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

So, this is what Merizan had to say before she was given the "stop revealing things" prod and suddenly went all vauge

*snip*

Thoughts?

If Merizan knows something, and isn't pulling our leg, which I doubt she is, then all of this holds some incredible weight. And I'm especially excited about the last one. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TELLING PEOPLE TO NOT RULE OUT GAMEPLAY BEING IN THE EC BECAUSE THE PRESS RELEASE DIDN'T SAY A WORD FOR OR AGAINST IT. She seems to say, "Hey, why can't it be?". If Merizan is right, which she has been before, and its her job to keep the community inline so I doubt she'd lie, then that last tweet is something interesting.

In all of those she basically confirmed:

1. You can meet up with your squad (And Liara... I guess that means any of your LI's), IF you made the right choice. Thought it was interesting she emphasized the choice many times. Seems destroy is mighty important. 

2. She will not deny the IT. Why would you deny something you later plan on revealing?

3. The EC will clarify or uncover quite a bit, it seems. It sounds like its going to be a lot more than people initally thought.

4. Something I've always said... there very well might be gameplay. In the press release it says 'additional scenes and cinematics'. Additional scenes could be ANYTHING. Gameplay, combat, dialogue. Anything. 

Overall, those tweets prove very revealing. And it would make sense why Merizan now doesn't say a word. Her superiors may have tighten down on her a bit, telling her to keep quiet. 

I'm hopeful with all this!

Yeah totally, she came out with a whole load of this stuff on the 5th of April, and then ever since she's said absolutely nothing useful at all
Most of what she's said is sort of common sense but it is fairly revealing, can totally understand why she's had to dial it back but it's still very interesting.

HellishFiend wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

@Hellishfiend

I
still can't hear any sort of chime as the 4th second turns over. But
I'm taking your word for it for now, you're one our more logical
posters. I'll keep listening when I'm not quite so tired.

@Arian Dynas

I'm
almost positive Big Ben is still working to some degree, the time seems
to change between when you see it in the background of the Hades
Cannon, and the end cinematics. Course the cinematic team might not have
been paying attention to the mission sequence and put the wrong time
display.

That's fine. I assure you it is there, and I'm
not the only one that's heard it either. Its really difficult to
distinguish from the "groaning" that starts right before it, especially
if youre conditioned to hear what youve been hearing for 200+ views. 

I
could make a sound clip + waveform screenshot of it. Anyone know where I
could post the sound file? I cant remember what site TSA used to post
his. 

www.sendspace.com - there are others, rapidshare.com has always been reliable but they have bigger wait times for non-members...

[Dwailing]

blooregard wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

As it stands we have Buzz Aldrin telling a story to a kid...that was our adventure...every erotic moment, every disgusting alien, every gruesome battle the ast 2.9 games were a story being told to a child by his grandpa. if thats not as invalidating as "it was all a dream" its pretty damn close.


I personally have no problem with the "it was all a dream" trope but it has to be used right.

Wizard of Oz: incorrect usage (gets a free pass for being one of the first)
Gurren-Lagann: correct usage

I didn't see it that way. I just thought this was a whole life continues scene and the people who lived there started over with little to no tech.

Why dont they have tech though?

Unless its a specific destroy ending, they'd still have tech.

Apparently the game files also indicate that the stargazer scene takes place 10,000 years after the end of the game, meaning its 10,000 years later and our crew's descendants are still stranded on that damned planet with no tech.

Hell, Tali said give her element zero and a circuit board and she'd have it making precision FTL jumps, yet no one from the Normandy crash ever rebuilt a FTL ship of any kind?

The stargazer scene is just awful on so many levels

Well assuming that the ship is the only thing technological on the planet and it was mostly damaged, I can't see how they're able to make much out of it and would have to start civilization from scratch in all endings.

I'm with you on the stargazer ending, though.

We should worry about the 10,000 years later time stamp. That colony would probably be an incest filled hell hole with mostly Asari 

No ****.  I don't necessarily mind the concept of the series being a story, but they could have done it MUCH better.

[MegumiAzusa]

blooregard wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

As it stands we have Buzz Aldrin telling a story to a kid...that was our adventure...every erotic moment, every disgusting alien, every gruesome battle the ast 2.9 games were a story being told to a child by his grandpa. if thats not as invalidating as "it was all a dream" its pretty damn close.


I personally have no problem with the "it was all a dream" trope but it has to be used right.

Wizard of Oz: incorrect usage (gets a free pass for being one of the first)
Gurren-Lagann: correct usage

I didn't see it that way. I just thought this was a whole life continues scene and the people who lived there started over with little to no tech.

Why dont they have tech though?

Unless its a specific destroy ending, they'd still have tech.

Apparently the game files also indicate that the stargazer scene takes place 10,000 years after the end of the game, meaning its 10,000 years later and our crew's descendants are still stranded on that damned planet with no tech.

Hell, Tali said give her element zero and a circuit board and she'd have it making precision FTL jumps, yet no one from the Normandy crash ever rebuilt a FTL ship of any kind?

The stargazer scene is just awful on so many levels

Well assuming that the ship is the only thing technological on the planet and it was mostly damaged, I can't see how they're able to make much out of it and would have to start civilization from scratch in all endings.

I'm with you on the stargazer ending, though.

We should worry about the 10,000 years later time stamp. That colony would probably be an incest filled hell hole with mostly Asari 

You mean mostly Ardat-Yakshi? And yeah that's also why I said I would rather wonder how they get a viable population going.

[blooregard]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

blooregard wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

As it stands we have Buzz Aldrin telling a story to a kid...that was our adventure...every erotic moment, every disgusting alien, every gruesome battle the ast 2.9 games were a story being told to a child by his grandpa. if thats not as invalidating as "it was all a dream" its pretty damn close.


I personally have no problem with the "it was all a dream" trope but it has to be used right.

Wizard of Oz: incorrect usage (gets a free pass for being one of the first)
Gurren-Lagann: correct usage

I didn't see it that way. I just thought this was a whole life continues scene and the people who lived there started over with little to no tech.

Why dont they have tech though?

Unless its a specific destroy ending, they'd still have tech.

Apparently the game files also indicate that the stargazer scene takes place 10,000 years after the end of the game, meaning its 10,000 years later and our crew's descendants are still stranded on that damned planet with no tech.

Hell, Tali said give her element zero and a circuit board and she'd have it making precision FTL jumps, yet no one from the Normandy crash ever rebuilt a FTL ship of any kind?

The stargazer scene is just awful on so many levels

Well assuming that the ship is the only thing technological on the planet and it was mostly damaged, I can't see how they're able to make much out of it and would have to start civilization from scratch in all endings.

I'm with you on the stargazer ending, though.

We should worry about the 10,000 years later time stamp. That colony would probably be an incest filled hell hole with mostly Asari 

You mean mostly Ardat-Yakshi? And yeah that's also why I said I would rather wonder how they get a viable population going.

On the bright side if they're mostly ardat-yakshi they'll at least either A) kill themselves off via mating or just die out meaning the horrific fate of the Normandy will be lost forever.

[EpyonX3]

blooregard wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

As it stands we have Buzz Aldrin telling a story to a kid...that was our adventure...every erotic moment, every disgusting alien, every gruesome battle the ast 2.9 games were a story being told to a child by his grandpa. if thats not as invalidating as "it was all a dream" its pretty damn close.


I personally have no problem with the "it was all a dream" trope but it has to be used right.

Wizard of Oz: incorrect usage (gets a free pass for being one of the first)
Gurren-Lagann: correct usage

I didn't see it that way. I just thought this was a whole life continues scene and the people who lived there started over with little to no tech.

Why dont they have tech though?

Unless its a specific destroy ending, they'd still have tech.

Apparently the game files also indicate that the stargazer scene takes place 10,000 years after the end of the game, meaning its 10,000 years later and our crew's descendants are still stranded on that damned planet with no tech.

Hell, Tali said give her element zero and a circuit board and she'd have it making precision FTL jumps, yet no one from the Normandy crash ever rebuilt a FTL ship of any kind?

The stargazer scene is just awful on so many levels

Well assuming that the ship is the only thing technological on the planet and it was mostly damaged, I can't see how they're able to make much out of it and would have to start civilization from scratch in all endings.

I'm with you on the stargazer ending, though.

We should worry about the 10,000 years later time stamp. That colony would probably be an incest filled hell hole with mostly Asari 

was it really 10K years later?

[byne]

EpyonX3 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

As it stands we have Buzz Aldrin telling a story to a kid...that was our adventure...every erotic moment, every disgusting alien, every gruesome battle the ast 2.9 games were a story being told to a child by his grandpa. if thats not as invalidating as "it was all a dream" its pretty damn close.


I personally have no problem with the "it was all a dream" trope but it has to be used right.

Wizard of Oz: incorrect usage (gets a free pass for being one of the first)
Gurren-Lagann: correct usage

I didn't see it that way. I just thought this was a whole life continues scene and the people who lived there started over with little to no tech.

Why dont they have tech though?

Unless its a specific destroy ending, they'd still have tech.

Apparently the game files also indicate that the stargazer scene takes place 10,000 years after the end of the game, meaning its 10,000 years later and our crew's descendants are still stranded on that damned planet with no tech.

Hell, Tali said give her element zero and a circuit board and she'd have it making precision FTL jumps, yet no one from the Normandy crash ever rebuilt a FTL ship of any kind?

The stargazer scene is just awful on so many levels

Well assuming that the ship is the only thing technological on the planet and it was mostly damaged, I can't see how they're able to make much out of it and would have to start civilization from scratch in all endings.

I'm with you on the stargazer ending, though.

We should worry about the 10,000 years later time stamp. That colony would probably be an incest filled hell hole with mostly Asari 

was it really 10K years later?

Supposedly the game files say that it is indeed 10k years later

[Big Bad]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

blooregard wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

As it stands we have Buzz Aldrin telling a story to a kid...that was our adventure...every erotic moment, every disgusting alien, every gruesome battle the ast 2.9 games were a story being told to a child by his grandpa. if thats not as invalidating as "it was all a dream" its pretty damn close.


I personally have no problem with the "it was all a dream" trope but it has to be used right.

Wizard of Oz: incorrect usage (gets a free pass for being one of the first)
Gurren-Lagann: correct usage

I didn't see it that way. I just thought this was a whole life continues scene and the people who lived there started over with little to no tech.

Why dont they have tech though?

Unless its a specific destroy ending, they'd still have tech.

Apparently the game files also indicate that the stargazer scene takes place 10,000 years after the end of the game, meaning its 10,000 years later and our crew's descendants are still stranded on that damned planet with no tech.

Hell, Tali said give her element zero and a circuit board and she'd have it making precision FTL jumps, yet no one from the Normandy crash ever rebuilt a FTL ship of any kind?

The stargazer scene is just awful on so many levels

Well assuming that the ship is the only thing technological on the planet and it was mostly damaged, I can't see how they're able to make much out of it and would have to start civilization from scratch in all endings.

I'm with you on the stargazer ending, though.

We should worry about the 10,000 years later time stamp. That colony would probably be an incest filled hell hole with mostly Asari 

You mean mostly Ardat-Yakshi? And yeah that's also why I said I would rather wonder how they get a viable population going.

Since Ardat-Yakshis are the result of a recessive trait, unless Liara is a carrier there should not be any reason to worry.

[Dwailing]

Big Bad wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

blooregard wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

As it stands we have Buzz Aldrin telling a story to a kid...that was our adventure...every erotic moment, every disgusting alien, every gruesome battle the ast 2.9 games were a story being told to a child by his grandpa. if thats not as invalidating as "it was all a dream" its pretty damn close.


I personally have no problem with the "it was all a dream" trope but it has to be used right.

Wizard of Oz: incorrect usage (gets a free pass for being one of the first)
Gurren-Lagann: correct usage

I didn't see it that way. I just thought this was a whole life continues scene and the people who lived there started over with little to no tech.

Why dont they have tech though?

Unless its a specific destroy ending, they'd still have tech.

Apparently the game files also indicate that the stargazer scene takes place 10,000 years after the end of the game, meaning its 10,000 years later and our crew's descendants are still stranded on that damned planet with no tech.

Hell, Tali said give her element zero and a circuit board and she'd have it making precision FTL jumps, yet no one from the Normandy crash ever rebuilt a FTL ship of any kind?

The stargazer scene is just awful on so many levels

Well assuming that the ship is the only thing technological on the planet and it was mostly damaged, I can't see how they're able to make much out of it and would have to start civilization from scratch in all endings.

I'm with you on the stargazer ending, though.

We should worry about the 10,000 years later time stamp. That colony would probably be an incest filled hell hole with mostly Asari 

You mean mostly Ardat-Yakshi? And yeah that's also why I said I would rather wonder how they get a viable population going.

Since Ardat-Yakshis are the result of a recessive trait, unless Liara is a carrier there should not be any reason to worry.

I figured that he was thinking that there would be a lot of Asari and there would end up being many MANY cases of incest, leading to many pureblooded Asari, which would lead to many Ardat-Yakshi, which would lead to the colony being devastated.

[dreamgazer]

Quick question: as far as we know, we never see Shepard nurse an abdomen wound before the storm towards the conduit, right? I can't remember it anywhere.

[blooregard]

Big Bad wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

blooregard wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

As it stands we have Buzz Aldrin telling a story to a kid...that was our adventure...every erotic moment, every disgusting alien, every gruesome battle the ast 2.9 games were a story being told to a child by his grandpa. if thats not as invalidating as "it was all a dream" its pretty damn close.


I personally have no problem with the "it was all a dream" trope but it has to be used right.

Wizard of Oz: incorrect usage (gets a free pass for being one of the first)
Gurren-Lagann: correct usage

I didn't see it that way. I just thought this was a whole life continues scene and the people who lived there started over with little to no tech.

Why dont they have tech though?

Unless its a specific destroy ending, they'd still have tech.

Apparently the game files also indicate that the stargazer scene takes place 10,000 years after the end of the game, meaning its 10,000 years later and our crew's descendants are still stranded on that damned planet with no tech.

Hell, Tali said give her element zero and a circuit board and she'd have it making precision FTL jumps, yet no one from the Normandy crash ever rebuilt a FTL ship of any kind?

The stargazer scene is just awful on so many levels

Well assuming that the ship is the only thing technological on the planet and it was mostly damaged, I can't see how they're able to make much out of it and would have to start civilization from scratch in all endings.

I'm with you on the stargazer ending, though.

We should worry about the 10,000 years later time stamp. That colony would probably be an incest filled hell hole with mostly Asari 

You mean mostly Ardat-Yakshi? And yeah that's also why I said I would rather wonder how they get a viable population going.

Since Ardat-Yakshis are the result of a recessive trait, unless Liara is a carrier there should not be any reason to worry.

some deformities are recessive but repeated incestious breeding causes them to manifest in those who weren't carriers.