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iiNOMADii wrote...

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paxxton wrote...

The Reapers use outdated modem technology to communicate. OK. The real Reapers would be silent.


Good point but bear in mind it's a game we're talking about here.  Same reason radios are used, as well as weapons that look a lot (structurally) like weapons today, i.e. assault rifles, pistols, shotguns etc.  You would think that far in the future weapons would evolve more and look a lot different but again, it's a game.


Why fix something that isn't broken......


Not that it's broken, but that something more efficient could be produced.

For example, using weapons using pure energy or light, I believe that one weapon could suffice for a assault rifle, shotgun, pistol etc.  All you would have to do would be to adjust the intensity and whatnot of the round.


I think you guys are forgetting that Mass Effect is not so far in the future. Tha game takes place less than 200 years from now. 200 years ago we used bullets in guns and the shape was the same (of course now the weapons are a lot lightier and precises).

And bullets are not used in ME as someone said. They use energy, the thermal clips are an improvement that allows that energy to last longer before overheating the weapon.

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HellishFiend wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

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Also, you write about blusterous yet pointless speeches...that's a new one for Shep. In this scene it might mean that either Shepard is not himself or everything around him isn't what it appears to be.

Doesn't matter, as it was already said, there too little about Refuse to properly 'speculate' about.


First of all though, it's clearly not Shep. It's the player talking. Anytime there is a 4th wall break in the game (or most games for that matter) the character looks at the camera. Like the whole Joker/Red October thing. Shep is gone by that point. He
stares directly into the camera for several seconds during the speech because those are the player's words, as requested by many after the original release.

And in my opinion the reason there is too little to speculate about is because there is simply nothing there.... I dont think it is something that BW intends to follow up on. 


Wait a sec, a 4th wall break is usually the character talking TO the player/viewer/audience. Since when did we come to the conclusion that in ME3 is the other way around?

Like this? http://youtu.be/w85YwBsUgK4?t=1m20s


Bottom line is, if you dont believe me, go sifting through the "we are listening" topic, and observe how on almost every page there is a post asking for Shep to be able to say something very similar to "If I die, I'll die knowing I did everything I could to stop you", which is what Shep is saying when he looks into the camera. 

Yeah, in my example, Anderson is looking into the camera (to Shepard/us), and saying "They're controlling YOU!".

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TJBartlemus wrote...

Are the 2 sounds similar? Hint by BioWare?? Or just crazy?? :blink:



 


okay I know this post is from a while ago but anyone else notice how Harby is following the normandy in his gaze in the second one.

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paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

btw Earth was announced on the German FB:
Posted Image

Nice! BioWare hid all the faces so that we can't speculate. Posted Image First from the left is Kasumi.


Okay the one in the middle on the left looks like she has the same weapons as Kai Leng. Awesome!! Still will probably end up using the soldier next to her however.

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HellishFiend wrote...

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nvm I saw it was announced over 20h ago here in the english announcement part :P
(never checked those >.>)


No, you were right, they just announced it. The topic was made 20 hours ago but was hidden until about a half hour ago. 


twitter.com/GambleMike/status/223091682206425088
"Officially announcing the galaxy's worst kept secret (but the BEST MP content we've done to date)"

:D

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MaximizedAction wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

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nvm I saw it was announced over 20h ago here in the english announcement part :P
(never checked those >.>)


No, you were right, they just announced it. The topic was made 20 hours ago but was hidden until about a half hour ago. 


twitter.com/GambleMike/status/223091682206425088
"Officially announcing the galaxy's worst kept secret (but the BEST MP content we've done to date)"

:D

I lold, but yeah, the pics look like they case me to drool.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

I should check the announcement part before posting ^^
http://social.biowar.../index/13063676
It's exactly what the leak said ^^

What??!!!! No map for Alberta? This is an outrage!! Posted Image
http://www.youtube.c...y4a5beZA#t=156s

Modifié par paxxton, 11 juillet 2012 - 05:05 .


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MaximizedAction wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

nvm I saw it was announced over 20h ago here in the english announcement part :P
(never checked those >.>)


No, you were right, they just announced it. The topic was made 20 hours ago but was hidden until about a half hour ago. 


twitter.com/GambleMike/status/223091682206425088
"Officially announcing the galaxy's worst kept secret (but the BEST MP content we've done to date)"

:D


LOL, I wonder if they're ever going to figure out who is doing those leaks on reddit. 

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

I should check the announcement part before posting ^^
http://social.biowar.../index/13063676
It's exactly what the leak said ^^


Yeah seems our leak is 100% accurate. Curious... :huh: A carefully placed leak by EA? 

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marcelo_sdk wrote...

iiNOMADii wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

iiNOMADii wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The Reapers use outdated modem technology to communicate. OK. The real Reapers would be silent.


Good point but bear in mind it's a game we're talking about here.  Same reason radios are used, as well as weapons that look a lot (structurally) like weapons today, i.e. assault rifles, pistols, shotguns etc.  You would think that far in the future weapons would evolve more and look a lot different but again, it's a game.


Why fix something that isn't broken......


Not that it's broken, but that something more efficient could be produced.

For example, using weapons using pure energy or light, I believe that one weapon could suffice for a assault rifle, shotgun, pistol etc.  All you would have to do would be to adjust the intensity and whatnot of the round.


I think you guys are forgetting that Mass Effect is not so far in the future. Tha game takes place less than 200 years from now. 200 years ago we used bullets in guns and the shape was the same (of course now the weapons are a lot lightier and precises).

And bullets are not used in ME as someone said. They use energy, the thermal clips are an improvement that allows that energy to last longer before overheating the weapon.


Good point, but remember that the weapons used 200 years ago were still firing bullets, and the weapons in ME fire energy, like you said. 

A weapon firing energy would not need the expended barrel of a sniper rifle and should hypothetically be able to fire from a weapon the size of a pistol with a scope.  Again, you could just have a weapon as small as a pistol and adjust the firing parameters to make it the energy of a shotgun (since you don't need an extended  barrel because it's energy being fired). 

Using these parameters, weapons in the ME universe could very well end up being quite different indeed than they are now

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TJBartlemus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

I should check the announcement part before posting ^^
http://social.biowar.../index/13063676
It's exactly what the leak said ^^


Yeah seems our leak is 100% accurate. Curious... :huh: A carefully placed leak by EA? 


No, unlike the demo/script/leviathan leaks, I think the MP leaks have been genuine leaks by a tester rather than intentional leaks by BW staff. 

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HellishFiend wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

nvm I saw it was announced over 20h ago here in the english announcement part :P
(never checked those >.>)


No, you were right, they just announced it. The topic was made 20 hours ago but was hidden until about a half hour ago. 


twitter.com/GambleMike/status/223091682206425088
"Officially announcing the galaxy's worst kept secret (but the BEST MP content we've done to date)"

:D


LOL, I wonder if they're ever going to figure out who is doing those leaks on reddit.

Good thing they didn't built the Crucible... oh wait.

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iiNOMADii wrote...

Good point, but remember that the weapons used 200 years ago were still firing bullets, and the weapons in ME fire energy, like you said. 

A weapon firing energy would not need the expended barrel of a sniper rifle and should hypothetically be able to fire from a weapon the size of a pistol with a scope.  Again, you could just have a weapon as small as a pistol and adjust the firing parameters to make it the energy of a shotgun (since you don't need an extended  barrel because it's energy being fired). 

Using these parameters, weapons in the ME universe could very well end up being quite different indeed than they are now


Doesnt matter, you cant aim a pistol shaped weapon nearly as well as you can aim a rifle. Weapons that collapse into very small objects you can carry on your hip/back and then open up into weapons that have a stock and extended off-hand grip for proper aiming is actually a very plausible scenario for future weapon design. . 

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So, now I think it's time to speculate about Leviathan DLC. Do you think that a new variable will be added to any of the endings?

I said before that, for me, it could be the turning point for reject, but I want to hear more opinions.

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iiNOMADii wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

iiNOMADii wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

iiNOMADii wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The Reapers use outdated modem technology to communicate. OK. The real Reapers would be silent.


Good point but bear in mind it's a game we're talking about here.  Same reason radios are used, as well as weapons that look a lot (structurally) like weapons today, i.e. assault rifles, pistols, shotguns etc.  You would think that far in the future weapons would evolve more and look a lot different but again, it's a game.


Why fix something that isn't broken......


Not that it's broken, but that something more efficient could be produced.

For example, using weapons using pure energy or light, I believe that one weapon could suffice for a assault rifle, shotgun, pistol etc.  All you would have to do would be to adjust the intensity and whatnot of the round.


I think you guys are forgetting that Mass Effect is not so far in the future. Tha game takes place less than 200 years from now. 200 years ago we used bullets in guns and the shape was the same (of course now the weapons are a lot lightier and precises).

And bullets are not used in ME as someone said. They use energy, the thermal clips are an improvement that allows that energy to last longer before overheating the weapon.


Good point, but remember that the weapons used 200 years ago were still firing bullets, and the weapons in ME fire energy, like you said. 

A weapon firing energy would not need the expended barrel of a sniper rifle and should hypothetically be able to fire from a weapon the size of a pistol with a scope.  Again, you could just have a weapon as small as a pistol and adjust the firing parameters to make it the energy of a shotgun (since you don't need an extended  barrel because it's energy being fired). 

Using these parameters, weapons in the ME universe could very well end up being quite different indeed than they are now


Uh, no, the ME weapons are NOT energy weapons. :?  They accelerate chips of metal to incredible speeds through the use of element zero and the mass effect.

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marcelo_sdk wrote...

iiNOMADii wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

iiNOMADii wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The Reapers use outdated modem technology to communicate. OK. The real Reapers would be silent.


Good point but bear in mind it's a game we're talking about here.  Same reason radios are used, as well as weapons that look a lot (structurally) like weapons today, i.e. assault rifles, pistols, shotguns etc.  You would think that far in the future weapons would evolve more and look a lot different but again, it's a game.


Why fix something that isn't broken......


Not that it's broken, but that something more efficient could be produced.

For example, using weapons using pure energy or light, I believe that one weapon could suffice for a assault rifle, shotgun, pistol etc.  All you would have to do would be to adjust the intensity and whatnot of the round.


I think you guys are forgetting that Mass Effect is not so far in the future. Tha game takes place less than 200 years from now. 200 years ago we used bullets in guns and the shape was the same (of course now the weapons are a lot lightier and precises).

And bullets are not used in ME as someone said. They use energy, the thermal clips are an improvement that allows that energy to last longer before overheating the weapon.

Actualy that is incorrect they use metal projectiles they use a big metal block and shave pieces of the size of sand and send them flying.

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HellishFiend wrote...

iiNOMADii wrote...

Good point, but remember that the weapons used 200 years ago were still firing bullets, and the weapons in ME fire energy, like you said. 

A weapon firing energy would not need the expended barrel of a sniper rifle and should hypothetically be able to fire from a weapon the size of a pistol with a scope.  Again, you could just have a weapon as small as a pistol and adjust the firing parameters to make it the energy of a shotgun (since you don't need an extended  barrel because it's energy being fired). 

Using these parameters, weapons in the ME universe could very well end up being quite different indeed than they are now


Doesnt matter, you cant aim a pistol shaped weapon nearly as well as you can aim a rifle. Weapons that collapse into very small objects you can carry on your hip/back and then open up into weapons that have a stock and extended off-hand grip for proper aiming is actually a very plausible scenario for future weapon design. . 


Assuming you have more experience here with the extended barrel topic, I'll concede to you on that.  Even then, though, an all-in-one weapon system is still possible due to energy adjustments being made as to the type of round used.

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HellishFiend wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

I should check the announcement part before posting ^^
http://social.biowar.../index/13063676
It's exactly what the leak said ^^


Yeah seems our leak is 100% accurate. Curious... :huh: A carefully placed leak by EA? 


No, unlike the demo/script/leviathan leaks, I think the MP leaks have been genuine leaks by a tester rather than intentional leaks by BW staff. 


And according to one of his other tweets he has an idea who it might be...poor fella

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iiNOMADii wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

iiNOMADii wrote...

Good point, but remember that the weapons used 200 years ago were still firing bullets, and the weapons in ME fire energy, like you said. 

A weapon firing energy would not need the expended barrel of a sniper rifle and should hypothetically be able to fire from a weapon the size of a pistol with a scope.  Again, you could just have a weapon as small as a pistol and adjust the firing parameters to make it the energy of a shotgun (since you don't need an extended  barrel because it's energy being fired). 

Using these parameters, weapons in the ME universe could very well end up being quite different indeed than they are now


Doesnt matter, you cant aim a pistol shaped weapon nearly as well as you can aim a rifle. Weapons that collapse into very small objects you can carry on your hip/back and then open up into weapons that have a stock and extended off-hand grip for proper aiming is actually a very plausible scenario for future weapon design. . 


Assuming you have more experience here with the extended barrel topic, I'll concede to you on that.  Even then, though, an all-in-one weapon system is still possible due to energy adjustments being made as to the type of round used.


You are correct about the barrel part, because the only reason long/extended barrels are currently required is to give the pressure created by the explosion more time to accelerate the bullet before it leaves the chamber. But the concept/design of stocks and extended offhand grips (and thus, the size of the weapon) will need to remain largely what they are now to allow for optimal aiming at anything beyond close range. 

The only thing I'm not sure about is that since Mass Effect is a fictional force, I cant really say whether the long barrel's of the Widow/BW are really necessary or just for visual effect. 

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smokingotter1 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The Reapers use outdated modem technology to communicate. OK. The real Reapers would be silent.


I remember dial up.....:sick:

Harbinger: "Mom! Get off the phone, I'm talking to Shepard online!"


Stop it, you're making me feel old too.

Fill me in guys, what have I been missing?

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marcelo_sdk wrote...

So, now I think it's time to speculate about Leviathan DLC. Do you think that a new variable will be added to any of the endings?

I said before that, for me, it could be the turning point for reject, but I want to hear more opinions.


Well,i think it should since you may be able to get him to join you.

If this is the case then when he says "i control the reapers"there should be a renegade interupt like "bull****"

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Dwailing wrote...

iiNOMADii wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

iiNOMADii wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

iiNOMADii wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The Reapers use outdated modem technology to communicate. OK. The real Reapers would be silent.


Good point but bear in mind it's a game we're talking about here.  Same reason radios are used, as well as weapons that look a lot (structurally) like weapons today, i.e. assault rifles, pistols, shotguns etc.  You would think that far in the future weapons would evolve more and look a lot different but again, it's a game.


Why fix something that isn't broken......


Not that it's broken, but that something more efficient could be produced.

For example, using weapons using pure energy or light, I believe that one weapon could suffice for a assault rifle, shotgun, pistol etc.  All you would have to do would be to adjust the intensity and whatnot of the round.


I think you guys are forgetting that Mass Effect is not so far in the future. Tha game takes place less than 200 years from now. 200 years ago we used bullets in guns and the shape was the same (of course now the weapons are a lot lightier and precises).

And bullets are not used in ME as someone said. They use energy, the thermal clips are an improvement that allows that energy to last longer before overheating the weapon.


Good point, but remember that the weapons used 200 years ago were still firing bullets, and the weapons in ME fire energy, like you said. 

A weapon firing energy would not need the expended barrel of a sniper rifle and should hypothetically be able to fire from a weapon the size of a pistol with a scope.  Again, you could just have a weapon as small as a pistol and adjust the firing parameters to make it the energy of a shotgun (since you don't need an extended  barrel because it's energy being fired). 

Using these parameters, weapons in the ME universe could very well end up being quite different indeed than they are now


Uh, no, the ME weapons are NOT energy weapons. :?  They accelerate chips of metal to incredible speeds through the use of element zero and the mass effect.

Wheeeew. Thanks Dwailing. I was beginning to think I was the only sane one left!Posted Image

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Arian Dynas wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The Reapers use outdated modem technology to communicate. OK. The real Reapers would be silent.


I remember dial up.....:sick:

Harbinger: "Mom! Get off the phone, I'm talking to Shepard online!"


Stop it, you're making me feel old too.

Fill me in guys, what have I been missing?


Pfff, unless you know what the term baud means without looking it up, you can't call yourself old just because you've used a dial-up modem before. ;)

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paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

I should check the announcement part before posting ^^
http://social.biowar.../index/13063676
It's exactly what the leak said ^^

What??!!!! No map for Alberta? This is an outrage!! Posted Image
http://www.youtube.c...y4a5beZA#t=156s

That's halarious. Are you in Alberta Paxx?

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marcelo_sdk wrote...

iiNOMADii wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

iiNOMADii wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The Reapers use outdated modem technology to communicate. OK. The real Reapers would be silent.


Good point but bear in mind it's a game we're talking about here.  Same reason radios are used, as well as weapons that look a lot (structurally) like weapons today, i.e. assault rifles, pistols, shotguns etc.  You would think that far in the future weapons would evolve more and look a lot different but again, it's a game.


Why fix something that isn't broken......


Not that it's broken, but that something more efficient could be produced.

For example, using weapons using pure energy or light, I believe that one weapon could suffice for a assault rifle, shotgun, pistol etc.  All you would have to do would be to adjust the intensity and whatnot of the round.


I think you guys are forgetting that Mass Effect is not so far in the future. Tha game takes place less than 200 years from now. 200 years ago we used bullets in guns and the shape was the same (of course now the weapons are a lot lightier and precises).

And bullets are not used in ME as someone said. They use energy, the thermal clips are an improvement that allows that energy to last longer before overheating the weapon.


They use bullets shorn from a block of clips, which are then accelerated by mass effect fields to extreme velocities.

Thermal clips are disposable heat sinks which keep the gun from overheating and then are rapidly flushed by ejection.

Guns cannot fire without thermal clips due to the dangers incurred by firing, which generates a great deal of heat.

They are not ammunition.