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[jgibson14352]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

thats true, i never thought of that. i thought it was always impact that mattered in terms of shields, otherwise why have such powerful guns on dreadnoughts? the treaty of fairixen forbode attacks on habitable planets, so theyd only be used against other ships, ships that would undoubtedly have shields

And this is why treaties rarely work as intented: because some people just don't give a crap. Terminus Systems? No Effect. Geth? No effect. Batarians? No effect.

One can only wonder how many more dreadnoughts would be around without it, thus making the Reapers job harder.

the non-council governments wouldnt care, yes, but those who still wished to be in the council would play by the rules, thats what the turians did while the krogan were trying to launch assaults on Palaven

[byne]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

thats true, i never thought of that. i thought it was always impact that mattered in terms of shields, otherwise why have such powerful guns on dreadnoughts? the treaty of fairixen forbode attacks on habitable planets, so theyd only be used against other ships, ships that would undoubtedly have shields

And this is why treaties rarely work as intented: because some people just don't give a crap. Terminus Systems? No Effect. Geth? No effect. Batarians? No effect.

One can only wonder how many more dreadnoughts would be around without it, thus making the Reapers job harder.

Well, then you can say that as far as the Reapers are concerned, the Treaty of Farixen had a.... Mass Effect.

[Chriz Tah Fah]

Maybe the thermal clip is used as a type of maintenance. If it is not used then the gun will eventually break. This would allow more shots to be fired in a desperate situation. It would make sense given the mechanic. I guess this could also explain the infinite ammo carnifex after the beam rush.

Edit: If your processor gets really hot (around 95c) it will shut itself down to prevent damage. If you managed to override this and have it run even with extreme temps it would still work for a little while before sustaining perminant damage. This is the best parralell I could think of.

Modifié par Chriz Tah Fah, 12 juillet 2012 - 05:33 .

[Arian Dynas]

byne wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

thats true, i never thought of that. i thought it was always impact that mattered in terms of shields, otherwise why have such powerful guns on dreadnoughts? the treaty of fairixen forbode attacks on habitable planets, so theyd only be used against other ships, ships that would undoubtedly have shields

And this is why treaties rarely work as intented: because some people just don't give a crap. Terminus Systems? No Effect. Geth? No effect. Batarians? No effect.

One can only wonder how many more dreadnoughts would be around without it, thus making the Reapers job harder.

Well, then you can say that as far as the Reapers are concerned, the Treaty of Farixen had a.... Mass Effect.

YEAAAAAAH! 

[Auralius Carolus]

jgibson14352 wrote...

the non-council governments wouldnt care, yes, but those who still wished to be in the council would play by the rules, thats what the turians did while the krogan were trying to launch assaults on Palaven

Yeah, but that theoretically cripples the Council states in the long run.

Council: Artificially Limited Arsenel
Everyone Else: Resources are the only limit

The Geth are already a match for the Turians, yet are far far younger.

[JShepppp]

masster blaster wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

 Ummm....I don't know what to make of this guy. And his points. He seems to have thought Starchild out a lot. If Arian is still here, I would recommend that he see this. 

http://social.biowar.../index/13006636

I know just looking at a little of it I know he has got some things wrong about the Catalyst, but I can't even start a response without feeling I'm missing something else wrong with it. Arian I feel should be up to the challenge. As well with anyone else willing to try.

I'm not here, leave a message.

Oh but he forgot why WE are in this HELL of a WAR...

*snip*

You're preaching to the choir here, blaster. Tell it to that dude.

I did. i feel guilty that I did that, yet part of me does not.

You could've just messaged me if you all felt that way about it...lol. I'd like to think I'm nice enough for that. I know I'm probably inviting a ton of hate, cursing, spam, and one-star-bombing by replying here "to the choir", but I'm used to getting bashed around a lot for my ideas, I suppose.

Modifié par JShepppp, 12 juillet 2012 - 05:35 .

[byne]

Yknow, wasnt it said in ME2 if you let the Council die that the turians no longer agreed to follow the Treaty of Farixen, and planned to build more dreadnoughts than they were actually allowed? Shouldnt that have had an effect on your war assets in ME3?

[Auralius Carolus]

byne wrote...

Yknow, wasnt it said in ME2 if you let the Council die that the turians no longer agreed to follow the Treaty of Farixen, and planned to build more dreadnoughts than they were actually allowed? Shouldnt that have had an effect on your war assets in ME3?

Hypothetically, yes. But given how ME3 was executed, I don't give a crap. Transfer a few MP characters over; that'll, somehow, amount to the same thing.

[hoodaticus]

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Guys...

We all know the real reason they swapped to thermal clips, the programmers had difficulty making their originally intended mechanic and chose to simply go with it.

Can we stop debating their relative merits now? ^ ^;

Honestly, if they had switched without even trying to explain why they did so, I'd probably have had less of a problem with it, and just have accepted it as a mechanic that made the combat work better, but since they're BioWare, and they feel the need to explain every little detail of the science and tech in the ME universe (except for the small things, yknow, like galaxy altering synthesis beams), they provided an explanation, and I'm not satisfied with the one they provided.


Edit: First post on page 1776. I win at America. America, **** yeah!

Comin' again to save the motha ****in day yeah!
'Mericaw!  F*ck yea-awwwww!

[lex0r11]

byne wrote...

[...]

Edit: First post on page 1776. I win at America. America, **** yeah!

*patriot snip*

[hoodaticus]

The British and Canadians should do one on page 1812.

[Auralius Carolus]

hoodaticus wrote...

The British and Canadians should do one on page 1812.

Oh yeah, I see how it is. Okay then...

We just won't show up on page 1917 or 1941 then.

[Bill Casey]

Canada should wait until page 1982...
Then quietly pass a resolution to post this...

We are the Beaver

[Rifneno]

Arian Dynas wrote...

I kind of liked the idea of him being a sort of Bane to Shepard's Batman (****** off Rifneno, we're not getting into another debate about the relative benefits of Batman. It was the best comparison I could think of) but for the most part, all he managed to be was kind of fun to hate.

Then think harder! Terrible comparison is still terrible, even if it's the best you could do!

Arian Dynas wrote...

Never said I didn't agree with you, I really preferred the idea they had in development for ME2 that they scrapped, being that you could fire the gun as much as you liked like in ME 1, but if you needed to cool down the weapon rapidly, you could flush the clip and fire again immediately, unfortuately it was cut due to balance issues.

I refuse to believe the people that designed the ME2 mattock were concerned with "balance issues." I blame all the crybabies who flooded every ME related forum with hyperbole soaked in tears because a few expensive late game guns with the right mods didn't produce heat. Because God forbid you could ever get into a situation of unlimited ammo in a game where trash mobs spam immunity, regenerate shields, ect. and you wind up having to put 300 rounds into one krogan. No, no, we just had to make this Call of Duty: Medal of Aliens. ... Goddamn shooter fanatics.

Arian Dynas wrote...

Also, is it frightening that not only did I recall that from memory, I also have all these other things concerning real world history, philosophy, physics and weapon design shoved in my head too?

No. What's concerning is I remember getting involved in some speculation back in the ME2 days and people started wondering if the Reapers had hidden something or other in Dholen.

In Dholen. The star. They thought there was something just twiddling its mechanical thumbs in the core of a red giant. I didn't even know where to begin with how many ways that was impossible. I felt like I was in one of those skits where Jay Leno walks the streets in LA and talks to people until he finds someone that thinks the Secretary of the Interior is the White House's interior designer.

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Conrad, as we would describe him in the South, "Is book-smart but ain't got no sense."

He's one of these types that, given civilization had never advanced, would have been eaten by a bear when he tried to pet it.

Sounds familiar.

Hypothetically, yes. But given how ME3 was executed, I don't give a crap. Transfer a few MP characters over; that'll, somehow, amount to the same thing.

I love how one Veetor getting promoted is a bigger EMS boost than the Destiny Ascension.

[byne]

So, this is unrelated, but I just finished rewatching the Back to the Future trilogy.

Throughout movies 2 and 3, Doc Brown kept going on and on about how time machines were a bad thing, and how he wanted to destroy the DeLorean once they got back to 1985.

Then, at the end of 3, when the DeLorean finally gets destroyed, and time is safe from meddling, what happens?



Flying time train!

Probably my biggest problem with the entire trilogy

Modifié par byne, 12 juillet 2012 - 05:55 .

[Rifneno]

byne wrote...

Probably my biggest problem with the entire trilogy

Then I take it you haven't given much thought to the future consequences of Biff the bully being Fox's family gardener even though he tried to rape mom in an alternate reality?

[Auralius Carolus]

Bill Casey wrote...

Canada should wait until page 1982...
Then quietly pass a resolution to post this...

We are the Beaver

Even though we in the U.S. almost got stuck with a turkey, it's still a case of almost.

*snickers and points at Canada*

[Rifneno]

I've been on the Internet since 1992 and this is the first conversation I've seen about beavers that's actually about beavers.

[byne]

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

Probably my biggest problem with the entire trilogy

Then I take it you haven't given much thought to the future consequences of Biff the bully being Fox's family gardener even though he tried to rape mom in an alternate reality?

He actually cleans and waxes their cars, he isnt a gardener, but thats beside the point.

That does  bug me a lot, especially since he didnt try to rape her in an alternate reality, he tried to rape her in the same timeline that he's their car cleaner, but seeing how his life has gone to hell in that timeline, I figure George and Lorraine just figured he was drunk at the time, and forgave him, then felt sorry for him and threw him a bone.

I mean, I wouldnt forgive him, but thats just me. George didnt divorce Lorraine when she had a kid that looked exactly like her high school crush, and even named him after that kid, so he's either just super gullible or super forgiving.

Modifié par byne, 12 juillet 2012 - 06:07 .

[jgibson14352]

Rifneno wrote...

I've been on the Internet since 1992 and this is the first conversation I've seen about beavers that's actually about beavers.

well, theres this.

i say we get back on topic, off topic but still on Mass Effect is one thing, back to the future is a whole nother thing

[byne]

Did we ever figure out how Thanix missiles were supposed to work?

[gunslinger_ruiz]

byne wrote...

Did we ever figure out how Thanix missiles were supposed to work?

Not that I recall, but Arian had a good theory some time ago. So far as we know they "do a ****ton of damage."

[Auralius Carolus]

byne wrote...

Did we ever figure out how Thanix missiles were supposed to work?

The original Thanix worked upon the prinicple of liquified alloy being used as a projectile. Based upon its effectiveness against barriers, it is presumable that the advantage lies within the fact that at high speeds, liquid only appears to remain stable, when in fact it is an amalgamation of tiny seperate droplets, (the reason people can urinate on electric wiring without being shocked).

These droplets would, therefore, be expected to impact a given area numerous times in extremely rapid succession. As is evident in contemporary anti-armor study, this effect would allow the initial impacts to destabilize armor and shields while subsequent drops burst through the weakened material.

In a self-contained missile platform, such a device would probably work much like a contemporary shape charge: upon impact the super-heated fluid would burst forward via a propelant within the missile, driving the projectilant forward in a finely tuned spear, strikely a given point with tremendous force. This would make use of the same principle of the standard Thanix, but unlike the beam varient, more of the projectilant can be expected to remain molten, allowing heat energy to futher weaken the target.

Arn't you guys glad you have a local ballistician and horde of genius chinchillas to answer your questions?

[byne]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

byne wrote...

Did we ever figure out how Thanix missiles were supposed to work?

The original Thanix worked upon the prinicple of liquified alloy being used as a projectile. Based upon its effectiveness against barriers, it is presumable that the advantage lies within the fact that at high speeds, liquid only appears to remain stable, when in fact it is an amalgamation of tiny seperate droplets, (the reason people can urinate on electric wiring without being shocked).

These droplets would, therefore, be expected to impact a given area numerous times in extremely rapid succession. As is evident in contemporary anti-armor study, this effect would allow the initial impacts to destabilize armor and shields while subsequent drops burst through the weakened material.

In a self-contained missile platform, such a device would probably work much like a contemporary shape charge: upon impact the super-heated fluid would burst forward via a propelant within the missile, driving the projectilant forward in a finely tuned spear, strikely a given point with tremendous force. This would make use of the same principle of the standard Thanix, but unlike the beam varient, more of the projectilant can be expected to remain molten, allowing heat energy to futher weaken the target.

Arn't you guys glad you have a local ballistician and horde of genius chinchillas to answer your questions?

Hmm. Interesting.

[blinky_the_elf]

Modifié par blinky_the_elf, 12 juillet 2012 - 06:47 .