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blooregard

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Hmm I was looking at my war assets and noticed stuff for the Shadow Broker's old ship it basically says that its engine/power systems could be used for the crucible to safely dispense energy.

Could that explain why part of the citadel has the Shadow Broker engines?

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blooregard wrote...

The only other times I remember him grabbing his stomach is when he wakes up from project lazarus, when he wakes up near object Rho and when anderson says he's getting "soft around the edges"

But I'm pretty sure Shepard's wounded animation is the same as every wounded animation in the game (limping, hunched over holding their stomach)

 

HellishFiend wrote...

One of his idle animations has him placing his hand in that general area and staggering a little bit, but examination of the character model during this time yields no blood or wound visible in that area. 

Further, flycamming the TIM/Anderson scene reveals that Shepard's model switches to one with the extra blood on it just before the camera shifts to look at it. Then when go up to talk to starchild, it reverts back to the original model without the blood. 


Got it.  I was trying to remember if ME3's engine physically emphasized Shepard holding the spot on London in a way that's not the standard "I'm hurt" position, something we'd be able to reference and remember.  I didn't think so, either. 

(thumbs up)

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blooregard wrote...

Hmm I was looking at my war assets and noticed stuff for the Shadow Broker's old ship it basically says that its engine/power systems could be used for the crucible to safely dispense energy.

Could that explain why part of the citadel has the Shadow Broker engines?


Not really, since we werent making modifications to the Citadel. We didnt even know it was the Catalyst till the end.

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it was mentioned in one of the video that it is reasonable to assume the Citadel needed those shifting slates from the Shadow Broker's ship to maintain orbit and after the use of its internal mass relay (which we never see in use sadly).

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Unit-Alpha wrote...

I still think the IT is possible, but one thing has me wondering about at least one element.

Remember the GX12 thermal pipe? The one that was supposed to help prevent the engine from venting into the engineering compartment? Well, it was only supposed to be necessary if the Normandy underwent extreme conditions that would tear the ship apart. Conditions like the Normandy crash. Seems strange that they would have dialog from 4 VAs plus a mini mission just as a red herring. So what if the Normandy crash actually happened? IT could still be viable.


I always wondered about that too. I expected that to play a larger part in the story than just a minor war asset for the Crucible. 

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HyperGlass wrote...

it was mentioned in one of the video that it is reasonable to assume the Citadel needed those shifting slates from the Shadow Broker's ship to maintain orbit and after the use of its internal mass relay (which we never see in use sadly).


The Citadel isnt orbiting anything until they bring it to Earth though. Why would there be things to maintain its orbit when its been in the middle of the Serpent Nebula for billions of years?

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blooregard wrote...

Hmm I was looking at my war assets and noticed stuff for the Shadow Broker's old ship it basically says that its engine/power systems could be used for the crucible to safely dispense energy.

Could that explain why part of the citadel has the Shadow Broker engines?


What about all the other inconsistencies regarding the "Citadel"? The curvature and layout being wrong, etc. 

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byne wrote...

HyperGlass wrote...

it was mentioned in one of the video that it is reasonable to assume the Citadel needed those shifting slates from the Shadow Broker's ship to maintain orbit and after the use of its internal mass relay (which we never see in use sadly).


The Citadel isnt orbiting anything until they bring it to Earth though. Why would there be things to maintain its orbit when its been in the middle of the Serpent Nebula for billions of years?


You are assuming that the Reapers always leave it there. There is the possibility that they move it to a designated location of choice(reason?who knows...) depending on what race they are targeting for reaperizing. When the cycle is over, just move it back to the Serpent Nebula.

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HellishFiend wrote...

blooregard wrote...

Hmm I was looking at my war assets and noticed stuff for the Shadow Broker's old ship it basically says that its engine/power systems could be used for the crucible to safely dispense energy.

Could that explain why part of the citadel has the Shadow Broker engines?


What about all the other inconsistencies regarding the "Citadel"? The curvature and layout being wrong, etc. 




I never disagreed that the citadel is funky near the end I just read something that might explain something. but yeah my biggest issue is the master control unit switching positions.

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Makrys wrote...
Lighten up. They hold a lot of interesting info, that if were false, why spill it? Definitely should not be overlooked. And a lot of people, including myself, had not seen them till TSA posted them now.

Jessica's post should be taken with a pinch of salt since her statement that EDI has no reaper tech.

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DJBare wrote...

Makrys wrote...
Lighten up. They hold a lot of interesting info, that if were false, why spill it? Definitely should not be overlooked. And a lot of people, including myself, had not seen them till TSA posted them now.

Jessica's post should be taken with a pinch of salt since her statement that EDI has no reaper tech.


Didnt she also say at one point that the Normandy crashed on Earth?

I love Jessica, but she says some silly things from time to time.

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http://en.wikipedia....rydock#Floating

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blooregard wrote...

I never disagreed that the citadel is funky near the end I just read something that might explain something. but yeah my biggest issue is the master control unit switching positions.

The also strange re-design of the entire area. In ME1 the control switch zone wasn't damaged beyond repair and yet when we see it in ME3, the entire layout changed.
I'm gonna head off to bed as my head is just killing me after today. I can't even think straight-_-

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HyperGlass wrote...

blooregard wrote...

I never disagreed that the citadel is funky near the end I just read something that might explain something. but yeah my biggest issue is the master control unit switching positions.

The also strange re-design of the entire area. In ME1 the control switch zone wasn't damaged beyond repair and yet when we see it in ME3, the entire layout changed.
I'm gonna head off to bed as my head is just killing me after today. I can't even think straight-_-
I apoligise for leaving on such short notice but man......I'm nearly dead.



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Ah darn it double post.

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In ME2 Thane has these strange flashbacks, and one of them contained: "The hanar lift her off the platform, they sing like bells. “The fire has gone to be kindled anew.”"
This seriously reminded me of the scene after Shep collapses.
lift her off the platform, pretty much if you count that part of the platform lifts up
they sing like bells, the music has some interesting properties as there is a note stressed every now and then, like a bell
The fire has gone, Shep passed out or even died
to be kindled anew, Wake up!

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As much as I believe in IT, there is a non-IT explanation for the Shadow Broker -ship - looking things on the cidatel. The Prothean VI said that in every cycle there are identical factions. This means that there is always a shadow broker. It is very possible that just as the Citadel becomes the main governmental capital in every cycle, the Shadow Brokers ship is the shadow broker's ship in every cycle. Thus it is possible that the SB's ship is made by the reapers/whoever made the reapers, just as the citadel is. This would explain similar design specifics.

-Blu

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Priestly asking about the theory over at HTL's base of operations is pretty darn interesting. I can only imagine what his response would be like over in these parts.

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dreamgazer wrote...

Quick question: as far as we know, we never see Shepard nurse an abdomen wound before the storm towards the conduit, right? I can't remember it anywhere.

Shepard doesn't even hold his abdomen while walking through "the Citadel" before the TIM/Anderson scene. And then without any reason he holds it.

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BluSoldier wrote...

As much as I believe in IT, there is a non-IT explanation for the Shadow Broker -ship - looking things on the cidatel. The Prothean VI said that in every cycle there are identical factions. This means that there is always a shadow broker. It is very possible that just as the Citadel becomes the main governmental capital in every cycle, the Shadow Brokers ship is the shadow broker's ship in every cycle. Thus it is possible that the SB's ship is made by the reapers/whoever made the reapers, just as the citadel is. This would explain similar design specifics.

-Blu


Yeah, that's a possibility, but it would have been nice if they had told us that.

Edited for flow.

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BluSoldier wrote...

As much as I believe in IT, there is a non-IT explanation for the Shadow Broker -ship - looking things on the cidatel. The Prothean VI said that in every cycle there are identical factions. This means that there is always a shadow broker. It is very possible that just as the Citadel becomes the main governmental capital in every cycle, the Shadow Brokers ship is the shadow broker's ship in every cycle. Thus it is possible that the SB's ship is made by the reapers/whoever made the reapers, just as the citadel is. This would explain similar design specifics.

-Blu


That seems like it's stretching it, don't believe the "All this has happened before, and it will happen again" stuff = Everything down to the ships is the same every cycle.

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Dwailing wrote...

BluSoldier wrote...

As much as I believe in IT, there is a non-IT explanation for the Shadow Broker -ship - looking things on the cidatel. The Prothean VI said that in every cycle there are identical factions. This means that there is always a shadow broker. It is very possible that just as the Citadel becomes the main governmental capital in every cycle, the Shadow Brokers ship is the shadow broker's ship in every cycle. Thus it is possible that the SB's ship is made by the reapers/whoever made the reapers, just as the citadel is. This would explain similar design specifics.

-Blu


Yeah, that's a possibility, but it would be nice if they would have told us that.


I think that ship was ordered by the Shadow Broker as Liara mention it must have had cost a fortune to built and in general acts like the ship is impressive, but nothing top of the line ship building cant do in the current cycle.

She also dosent hesitate to sacrifice the ship to give Cerberus a suprise as she leaves it behind so I dont think it is Reaper tech.

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BluSoldier wrote...

As much as I believe in IT, there is a non-IT explanation for the Shadow Broker -ship


That's pretty far-fetched especially considering how Liara blew Shadow Broker's ship. Non-IT explanation is that it is a coincidence or reused elements.

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dreamgazer wrote...

Priestly asking about the theory over at HTL's base of operations is pretty darn interesting. I can only imagine what his response would be like over in these parts.



Link, please?

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HyperGlass wrote...

blooregard wrote...

I never disagreed that the citadel is funky near the end I just read something that might explain something. but yeah my biggest issue is the master control unit switching positions.

The also strange re-design of the entire area. In ME1 the control switch zone wasn't damaged beyond repair and yet when we see it in ME3, the entire layout changed.
I'm gonna head off to bed as my head is just killing me after today. I can't even think straight-_-


Ummm...
  • ME1:Tower penthouse
  • ME3: Tower base

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