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They didn't finish Dragon Age 2 and it's expansion because they decided it would be more profitable to simply go straight to DA3, folding in the story of the DA2 expansion into DA3.

They didn't "run out of money"

Besides, even EA knows, if you have a plan like this, which Bioware WOULD have to keep EA apprised of, you stick with it to the end.


I'm really looking forward to that game because they chose Orlais as the next region.


I don't care where it is aslong as Varric is back he the second best dwarf ever after ohgren of cause lol




What about Sandal? D:


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I think we're forgetting a critical element to game production here:time.

Bioware originally asked for more time to complete the game, but it was at least in part denied by EA, which explains the sloppiness (writing notwithstanding) of the endings and the final Earth mission compared to the rest...generally speaking of course.


It's also obvious from the changes that came with the EC. I think the EC version is the 'definite' version of ME3, the ending seems better polished that way.

Definately. The EC is so much better than the original ending.


I agree that it's far better technically executed, but I still don't like the themes if taken literally. Synthesis is still utterly ridiculous.

I'm actually very glad I watched Refuse on youtube rather than playing all the way from Chronos station.

If I'd got all psyched up by Shepard's "I'll die free" speech thinking "Yes, this is it! The real ending at last!" - only for it to end in a glorified game over screen? I'd still be picking bits of my monitor out of my fist!


:D
The first time I decided to only choose the rejecting answers it did feel like a kick in the nuts after hearing that speech in the likes of a ME1 or ME2 one.

The second time I stumbled upon Refuse, I spilled my tea when I shot the Catalyst for fun.

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Hello Wind of Roses!


Hail Paxx!

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lex0r11 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

They didn't finish Dragon Age 2 and it's expansion because they decided it would be more profitable to simply go straight to DA3, folding in the story of the DA2 expansion into DA3.

They didn't "run out of money"

Besides, even EA knows, if you have a plan like this, which Bioware WOULD have to keep EA apprised of, you stick with it to the end.


I'm really looking forward to that game because they chose Orlais as the next region.


I don't care where it is aslong as Varric is back he the second best dwarf ever after ohgren of cause lol




What about Sandal? D:


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Oh its a given Sandal will be in it but he not awesome he adorable lol

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lex0r11 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

They didn't finish Dragon Age 2 and it's expansion because they decided it would be more profitable to simply go straight to DA3, folding in the story of the DA2 expansion into DA3.

They didn't "run out of money"

Besides, even EA knows, if you have a plan like this, which Bioware WOULD have to keep EA apprised of, you stick with it to the end.


I'm really looking forward to that game because they chose Orlais as the next region.


Orlais? Really? Cool. Come to think of it, since the multiplayer focuses on dragon vs dragon fighting, I am willing to bet you that you get to become basically what Flemeth is.

THAT would be awesome. Oh and new protagonist too btw. No Hawke in this one.

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Hihi ppl~
Sorry if its been brought up already, but has anyone speculated about Rio in the new MP DLC? I haven't been keeping up with MP, but aren't all the zones used somewhere in SP? Would it be safe to cautiously hope for an Earth SP DLC in the somewhat near future?

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Hihi ppl~
Sorry if its been brought up already, but has anyone speculated about Rio in the new MP DLC? I haven't been keeping up with MP, but aren't all the zones used somewhere in SP? Would it be safe to cautiously hope for an Earth SP DLC in the somewhat near future?


Yes.

Remember, Rio is not only Hackett's birthplace, it's also home to the N7 training grounds.

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I know this is out of nowhere; I've not read the last few pages to see where things are at, but I found another Wrex brain fade that has me seriously doubting all of London.

As I mentioned before, if you talk to him he forgets it was his idea to name a baby girl Mordin, but during idle conversation to his troops, he makes a comment that if true, would have killed him.

"Somebody go and see if the Quarian's have something to eat. All that Turian food game me the runs."

He does not say this like it's a joke either. This is a clear clue that what is happening is NOT reality. If he ate Turian food, he'd be dead, or in the least so ill he'd be in the infirmary whining to Liara.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Orlais? Really? Cool. Come to think of it, since the multiplayer focuses on dragon vs dragon fighting, I am willing to bet you that you get to become basically what Flemeth is.

THAT would be awesome. Oh and new protagonist too btw. No Hawke in this one.


Wait, did they release info on DA3? 

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It absolutely does.

When pressed for time, yes, you cut things, but you also slash quality as well.

Pressed for time would explain bugs and oversights, not bad writing, and the writing was splendid for most of the game. And as many have said  since release, the beginning and end where most likely the first bits made.


...hmm...

Good point.

I suppose it's just hard to believe that they could have dropped the ball THAT badly with the ending even though the other parts, writing wise, were done pretty well.

It's like a huge stick in the sand which leaves me in bewilderment as to how they could have f'ed up like that. 

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Arian Dynas wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

They didn't finish Dragon Age 2 and it's expansion because they decided it would be more profitable to simply go straight to DA3, folding in the story of the DA2 expansion into DA3.

They didn't "run out of money"

Besides, even EA knows, if you have a plan like this, which Bioware WOULD have to keep EA apprised of, you stick with it to the end.


I'm really looking forward to that game because they chose Orlais as the next region.


Orlais? Really? Cool. Come to think of it, since the multiplayer focuses on dragon vs dragon fighting, I am willing to bet you that you get to become basically what Flemeth is.

THAT would be awesome. Oh and new protagonist too btw. No Hawke in this one.


*Sniff* I love my Hawke :( and FENRIS!!! he soooo broooody *zones out*

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I thought an Earth MP pack was already announced?

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Turbo_J wrote...

I know this is out of nowhere; I've not read the last few pages to see where things are at, but I found another Wrex brain fade that has me seriously doubting all of London.

As I mentioned before, if you talk to him he forgets it was his idea to name a baby girl Mordin, but during idle conversation to his troops, he makes a comment that if true, would have killed him.

"Somebody go and see if the Quarian's have something to eat. All that Turian food game me the runs."

He does not say this like it's a joke either. This is a clear clue that what is happening is NOT reality. If he ate Turian food, he'd be dead, or in the least so ill he'd be in the infirmary whining to Liara.


You do realise he a Krogan and he is Wrex wouldn't be surprised if that's all it did to him.

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I thought an Earth MP pack was already announced?


There is comes out next week I think, swore some one said the 17th.

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I know this is out of nowhere; I've not read the last few pages to see where things are at, but I found another Wrex brain fade that has me seriously doubting all of London.

As I mentioned before, if you talk to him he forgets it was his idea to name a baby girl Mordin, but during idle conversation to his troops, he makes a comment that if true, would have killed him.

"Somebody go and see if the Quarian's have something to eat. All that Turian food game me the runs."

He does not say this like it's a joke either. This is a clear clue that what is happening is NOT reality. If he ate Turian food, he'd be dead, or in the least so ill he'd be in the infirmary whining to Liara.


You do realise he a Krogan and he is Wrex wouldn't be surprised if that's all it did to him.


Gotta agree, those Krogan are tough suckers. I mean did anyone read the entry on how everything garrus had to do to kill a certain Krogan while he was Archangel. That list was like a mile long.

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Turbo_J wrote...

I know this is out of nowhere; I've not read the last few pages to see where things are at, but I found another Wrex brain fade that has me seriously doubting all of London.

As I mentioned before, if you talk to him he forgets it was his idea to name a baby girl Mordin, but during idle conversation to his troops, he makes a comment that if true, would have killed him.

"Somebody go and see if the Quarian's have something to eat. All that Turian food game me the runs."

He does not say this like it's a joke either. This is a clear clue that what is happening is NOT reality. If he ate Turian food, he'd be dead, or in the least so ill he'd be in the infirmary whining to Liara.


Hm, and it's not possible that it's something like a cat/dog eating chocolate: where only high enough amounts can kill, smaller amounts just cause diarrhea.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Kenza wrote...

Hihi ppl~
Sorry if its been brought up already, but has anyone speculated about Rio in the new MP DLC? I haven't been keeping up with MP, but aren't all the zones used somewhere in SP? Would it be safe to cautiously hope for an Earth SP DLC in the somewhat near future?


Yes.

Remember, Rio is not only Hackett's birthplace, it's also home to the N7 training grounds.


And if I remember correctly it's where Jacob suggests that he and Shepard meet up for a drink "when this is all over", which gets my hopes up that there may be "post ending" content after all.

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Rosewind wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

They didn't finish Dragon Age 2 and it's expansion because they decided it would be more profitable to simply go straight to DA3, folding in the story of the DA2 expansion into DA3.

They didn't "run out of money"

Besides, even EA knows, if you have a plan like this, which Bioware WOULD have to keep EA apprised of, you stick with it to the end.


I'm really looking forward to that game because they chose Orlais as the next region.


Orlais? Really? Cool. Come to think of it, since the multiplayer focuses on dragon vs dragon fighting, I am willing to bet you that you get to become basically what Flemeth is.

THAT would be awesome. Oh and new protagonist too btw. No Hawke in this one.


*Sniff* I love my Hawke :( and FENRIS!!! he soooo broooody *zones out*


Doesn't mean we won't love this new protagonist, and I'll bet ya Fenris makes an appearance (The DA team should take notes from the ME team about how to handle their canon.)

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I like that, and it remains why I still personally think that IT will be implemented via a bridging DLC to ME4, probably through a flashback.


I actually very much liked the way they did bridging DLCs for me3 - the Arrival and lair of the shodow broker. 

Only after having played ME3 i began to apreciate these stories fully. 


My only concern with this is that Bioware may run out of funding before the final reveal. They were planning some DLC for Dragon Age 2 which was shelved due to the poor sales of that game.

There are plenty of people on these boards (myself included) who feel that any pre-ending dlc that does not affect the outcome other than with a few more war assets is a bit pointless. I'm not saying that's rational, as the DLC may well be perfectly fun to play in and of itself - but I don't claim to be rational about games that I get emotionally involved in.

It would be absolutely tragic if the Leviathan DLC tanks due to lingering bad feeling about the ending, and EA uses that as an excuse to pull the plug on ME3 before the big reveal. I think they need to throw us a bone - nothing too definite, just something to keep our hopes up re IT. That would give me incentive to buy the dlc at any rate.



Oh come on, enough with "low on budget" nonesens! we are really talking ME3 here - one of the biggest AAA+++ title of the last five years, on par with Starcraft, Diablo, etc/ bucked up by the EA - THE BIGGEST PUBLISHER IN THE WORLD, developed by the biggest developing compani in the world. Of course there were budget restrictions of some sort, but Really come on!! We're talking 200+ mill IP here. The argument that they just run out of money, or that EA cut them off is really stupid. You could agrue all you want, but unless you show me real insider financial documents and EA reports, which you wont, don't use "they didn't finish the game couse they run out of money' argument.  


I actually have access to top secret EA financial documents using a spy website called "Google." :wizard:
Here is their stock over the last five years. If you follow gaming news EA has had some pretty rough quarters over the last few years. Pulling the plug on DA2 DLC as an example, EA is not about to run out of money, but they have to consider return on investment just like every other company.

I think there is enough demand to satisfy IT hopes and dreams... but things happen.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

They didn't finish Dragon Age 2 and it's expansion because they decided it would be more profitable to simply go straight to DA3, folding in the story of the DA2 expansion into DA3.

They didn't "run out of money"

Besides, even EA knows, if you have a plan like this, which Bioware WOULD have to keep EA apprised of, you stick with it to the end.


I'm really looking forward to that game because they chose Orlais as the next region.


Orlais? Really? Cool. Come to think of it, since the multiplayer focuses on dragon vs dragon fighting, I am willing to bet you that you get to become basically what Flemeth is.

THAT would be awesome. Oh and new protagonist too btw. No Hawke in this one.


*Sniff* I love my Hawke :( and FENRIS!!! he soooo broooody *zones out*


Doesn't mean we won't love this new protagonist, and I'll bet ya Fenris makes an appearance (The DA team should take notes from the ME team about how to handle their canon.)


I loved Fenris, loved the way how they made fun of his stereotype of being brooody a slave, it was awesome how Varric and fenris played back and forth. And hell even his VA is sexy (pretty sure they based him of his VA they look similar)

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Hello Wind of Roses!


Hail Paxx!

So have you finished that sig picture you asked us to give you quotes for?

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Eryri wrote...

My only concern with this is that Bioware may run out of funding before the final reveal. They were planning some DLC for Dragon Age 2 which was shelved due to the poor sales of that game.


Really? That makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Seriously. It would've been terrible for BW to be rewarded for that game. Not just for the fans, for BW too. It's like when a kid mishaves. If he's not punished and shown it's wrong then he'll keep doing it. If they didn't get a financial slap on the wrist for that game they'd keep making games just as bad. And that's bad for everyone.

lex0r11 wrote...

What about Sandal? D:


Don't be silly. Sandal is obviously Commander Shepard in disguise. Look at that ogre that he "NOT enchantment"'d in the Deep Roads and tell me nobody shot it in the face with an M-622 Avalanche.

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Orlais? Really? Cool. Come to think of it, since the multiplayer focuses on dragon vs dragon fighting, I am willing to bet you that you get to become basically what Flemeth is.


It's confirmed to be Orlais? Huh. I'd be excited to kill people that do desperately need killing since Orlais is second only to Par Vollen in terms of people that need killing, but I'm worried they'll force the PC to play nice with rapist chevaliers, soul-stealing templars, and farmer-murdering highborns after DA2 forced us to play nice with the horned pestilence even after their jihad on Kirkwall.

... God do I hate qunari.

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Yes.

Remember, Rio is not only Hackett's birthplace, it's also home to the N7 training grounds.


Did you know Anderson was born in London?

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*Sniff* I love my Hawke :( and FENRIS!!! he soooo broooody *zones out*


Oh yeah, hate Fenris too. I want to cut him open and bleed him dry. Then I want to make a blood golem out of that and have it sit in my foyer as a warning.

Step 1. Pester Bethany to go to the Circle so they can protect her as well as protect the world from her.
Step 2. Try to murder every mage in the Circle, including Bethany, for a crime that none of them did.
Step 3. ???
Step 4. Profit. Sorry, typo, I meant "get your whiny elven balls ripped off by teh honey badger."

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paxxton wrote...

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Hello Wind of Roses!


Hail Paxx!

So have you finished that sig picture you asked us to give you quotes for?


Haven't even started lol.

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Wasn't Jacob born in Rio?

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Wow that was a lot of DA2 hate right there.