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[byne]

Arian Dynas wrote...

we aren't even above Defcon 1 and haven't been for years.

We've never not been above DEFCON 1, Arian.

I dont think you know how DEFCON works.

[Arian Dynas]

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

we aren't even above Defcon 1 and haven't been for years.

We've never not been above DEFCON 1, Arian.

I dont think you know how DEFCON works.

Whoops, got that backwards. Defcon 5.

Sorry. Headache's getting to me.

[estebanus]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Ok fine. Then how about this?

The chances of a nuclear war are astranomically low, America is currently engaged in a state of nuclear disarmament, no other nuclear nation is truly hostile to us, nuclear weapons and missile silos are nearly impossible to penetrate from the outside, NORAD is on a constant watch, we aren't even above Defcon 1 and haven't been for years.

Countries that ARE hostile to the US do not have access to missiles that aren't embarrassingly poorly designed (as in to the point they are more likely to hit themselves than us, if Korea starts gunning for Cuba maybe we should worry, but only on the off chance that they will miss)

There are tons and tons of nuclear interceptors in our air force who are superbly good at their jobs, and simply put, human beings are not wired to push that button on average. EVERYONE except the most insane individuals, whom are no where near the launch codes, would at LEAST hesitate, if not outright refuse.

Arian, I know that a nuclear war won't happen for a very long time. I'm not an idiot. 

Since I constantly discuss the theory of nuclear deterrence with my brother, you really shouldn't believe I'm scared. 

The human mind itself is what fascinates me most when it comes to deterrence theory. Would a person really launch a nuclear weapon knowing that the fate of humanity depends on this person's decision? 

[Arian Dynas]

Although, if it helps you feel better Estebanus ( if you're still on) watch Wargames before you go to bed. There they get to avert the apocalypse.

[byne]

estebanus wrote...

The human mind itself is what fascinates me most when it comes to deterrence theory. Would a person really launch a nuclear weapon knowing that the fate of humanity depends on this person's decision? 

Yes.

Granted, most people wouldnt, but some would.

[estebanus]

Arian, what you just wrote is exactly that I always try to tell fatalists who believe the world will soon be sent into nuclear oblivion.

[estebanus]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Although, if it helps you feel better Estebanus ( if you're still on) watch Wargames before you go to bed. There they get to avert the apocalypse.

I've already watched wargames. 

"in a nuclear war, there is no winner." That was a very awesome point. 

[byne]

estebanus wrote...

Arian, what you just wrote is exactly that I always try to tell fatalists who believe the world will soon be sent into nuclear oblivion.

Estebanus, you're aware that you're currently in a country where a sizable chunk of the population not only sincerely believes the world will end in their lifetime, but are looking forward to it, right?

[Arian Dynas]

estebanus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Ok fine. Then how about this?

The chances of a nuclear war are astranomically low, America is currently engaged in a state of nuclear disarmament, no other nuclear nation is truly hostile to us, nuclear weapons and missile silos are nearly impossible to penetrate from the outside, NORAD is on a constant watch, we aren't even above Defcon 1 and haven't been for years.

Countries that ARE hostile to the US do not have access to missiles that aren't embarrassingly poorly designed (as in to the point they are more likely to hit themselves than us, if Korea starts gunning for Cuba maybe we should worry, but only on the off chance that they will miss)

There are tons and tons of nuclear interceptors in our air force who are superbly good at their jobs, and simply put, human beings are not wired to push that button on average. EVERYONE except the most insane individuals, whom are no where near the launch codes, would at LEAST hesitate, if not outright refuse.

Arian, I know that a nuclear war won't happen for a very long time. I'm not an idiot. 

Since I constantly discuss the theory of nuclear deterrence with my brother, you really shouldn't believe I'm scared. 

The human mind itself is what fascinates me most when it comes to deterrence theory. Would a person really launch a nuclear weapon knowing that the fate of humanity depends on this person's decision? 

I don't consider you an idiot. But one never knows another person's phobias or baggage.

And while not "scared" I would say, it DOES sound as though you are feeling guilt or blame about something, I would advise discussing these dreams with someone in the real world. You may feel better afterward.

Welp, average psychological profiles, tons of tests and at least 7 or 8 seperate events during the Cold War give a resounding "NO!"

[estebanus]

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

The human mind itself is what fascinates me most when it comes to deterrence theory. Would a person really launch a nuclear weapon knowing that the fate of humanity depends on this person's decision? 

Yes.

Granted, most people wouldnt, but some would.

You know that the world has been at thebrink of nuclear war several times, right? 

And almost each time, it was the decision of a single person who defied the orders of his superiors that saved humanity.

[Arian Dynas]

estebanus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Although, if it helps you feel better Estebanus ( if you're still on) watch Wargames before you go to bed. There they get to avert the apocalypse.

I've already watched wargames. 

"in a nuclear war, there is no winner." That was a very awesome point. 

Figured you probably had. Still a good movie anyway.

[byne]

The extent of my knowledge on nuclear warfare is knowing that war never changes.

[estebanus]

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Arian, what you just wrote is exactly that I always try to tell fatalists who believe the world will soon be sent into nuclear oblivion.

Estebanus, you're aware that you're currently in a country where a sizable chunk of the population not only sincerely believes the world will end in their lifetime, but are looking forward to it, right?

Yes, I'm aware, and I'm happy I'll be gone in about 6 days!

[byne]

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

The human mind itself is what fascinates me most when it comes to deterrence theory. Would a person really launch a nuclear weapon knowing that the fate of humanity depends on this person's decision? 

Yes.

Granted, most people wouldnt, but some would.

You know that the world has been at thebrink of nuclear war several times, right? 

And almost each time, it was the decision of a single person who defied the orders of his superiors that saved humanity.

Right, but if you think there arent people out there who would push the button to end the world, you're far too optimistic.

[estebanus]

Arian Dynas wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Although, if it helps you feel better Estebanus ( if you're still on) watch Wargames before you go to bed. There they get to avert the apocalypse.

I've already watched wargames. 

"in a nuclear war, there is no winner." That was a very awesome point. 

Figured you probably had. Still a good movie anyway.

Oh I agree. I loved it!

[RavenEyry]

Moving on from the real possibility of nuclear war, has anyone ever compiled a list of the many, many quotes about destroying them being the only option throughout all three games? I keep seeing quotes in sigs and general comments on the topic but never a list to illustrate the sheer volume of them.

[estebanus]

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

The human mind itself is what fascinates me most when it comes to deterrence theory. Would a person really launch a nuclear weapon knowing that the fate of humanity depends on this person's decision? 

Yes.

Granted, most people wouldnt, but some would.

You know that the world has been at thebrink of nuclear war several times, right? 

And almost each time, it was the decision of a single person who defied the orders of his superiors that saved humanity.

Right, but if you think there arent people out there who would push the button to end the world, you're far too optimistic.

Of course there are, but these people don't really have the nuclear power to be taken seriously. 

[Arian Dynas]

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Arian, what you just wrote is exactly that I always try to tell fatalists who believe the world will soon be sent into nuclear oblivion.

Estebanus, you're aware that you're currently in a country where a sizable chunk of the population not only sincerely believes the world will end in their lifetime, but are looking forward to it, right?

Some entertain the notion, some believe it is not the end of the world, merely the Revelation and all that crap. Some are nihilists and all are wrong.

2012 is pure bull**** plain and simple. I could even give a categorized list of reasons why, but I don't care enough to.

[byne]

Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Arian, what you just wrote is exactly that I always try to tell fatalists who believe the world will soon be sent into nuclear oblivion.

Estebanus, you're aware that you're currently in a country where a sizable chunk of the population not only sincerely believes the world will end in their lifetime, but are looking forward to it, right?

Some entertain the notion, some believe it is not the end of the world, merely the Revelation and all that crap. Some are nihilists and all are wrong.

2012 is pure bull**** plain and simple. I could even give a categorized list of reasons why, but I don't care enough to.

The list of reasons why 2012 is bull**** should be simply one entry, stating that when our calendars end, we just buy new ones, and hang those up. The world doesnt end.

Why people think the Mayans are any different is beyond me.

[Rosewind]

estebanus wrote...

Great, all of you who live in big cities get killed quickly while I get to dither about until radioactivity kills me!

But we get to shoot zombies with shot guns!!!

[byne]

RavenEyry wrote...

Moving on from the real possibility of nuclear war, has anyone ever compiled a list of the many, many quotes about destroying them being the only option throughout all three games? I keep seeing quotes in sigs and general comments on the topic but never a list to illustrate the sheer volume of them.

I dont believe anyone ever has.

Someone should, though.

I cant, since I'm going to the airport in like an hour, but someone should.

[estebanus]

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Arian, what you just wrote is exactly that I always try to tell fatalists who believe the world will soon be sent into nuclear oblivion.

Estebanus, you're aware that you're currently in a country where a sizable chunk of the population not only sincerely believes the world will end in their lifetime, but are looking forward to it, right?

Some entertain the notion, some believe it is not the end of the world, merely the Revelation and all that crap. Some are nihilists and all are wrong.

2012 is pure bull**** plain and simple. I could even give a categorized list of reasons why, but I don't care enough to.

The list of reasons why 2012 is bull**** should be simply one entry, stating that when our calendars end, we just buy new ones, and hang those up. The world doesnt end.

Why people think the Mayans are any different is beyond me.

Calendars don't end. They simply restart, the same way our calendar does each 31st of december.

[Arian Dynas]

RavenEyry wrote...

Moving on from the real possibility of nuclear war, has anyone ever compiled a list of the many, many quotes about destroying them being the only option throughout all three games? I keep seeing quotes in sigs and general comments on the topic but never a list to illustrate the sheer volume of them.

Nope.

Wanna help?

[byne]

Rosewind wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Great, all of you who live in big cities get killed quickly while I get to dither about until radioactivity kills me!

But we get to shoot zombies with shot guns!!!

Rosewind, were you one of those people I showed the videos of Amon and his awful jokes to? I think you were but I cant remember.

If so, the newest one made me sad.

[Arian Dynas]

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Arian, what you just wrote is exactly that I always try to tell fatalists who believe the world will soon be sent into nuclear oblivion.

Estebanus, you're aware that you're currently in a country where a sizable chunk of the population not only sincerely believes the world will end in their lifetime, but are looking forward to it, right?

Some entertain the notion, some believe it is not the end of the world, merely the Revelation and all that crap. Some are nihilists and all are wrong.

2012 is pure bull**** plain and simple. I could even give a categorized list of reasons why, but I don't care enough to.

The list of reasons why 2012 is bull**** should be simply one entry, stating that when our calendars end, we just buy new ones, and hang those up. The world doesnt end.

Why people think the Mayans are any different is beyond me.

Calendars don't end. They simply restart, the same way our calendar does each 31st of december.

Oh the Mayans did do SOMETHING when their calendar ended.

They made another ****ing calendar and got drunk.