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[RavenEyry]

HellishFiend wrote...
I'm not sure why anyone would consider that an error. One does not just start an explosion from the wrong place in a full motion video. Those videos have to go through so many quality checks that there is probably an infinitesimally small chance that it was not only an accident but also just so happens to originate from where The Arrival took place.

It was intentional. The fact that it is still in the EC is further indication of that. 

Could've been human error from the maker of the scene. I used the word error because that's the only non-IT explanation for it I know of.

[Priss Blackburne]

RavenEyry wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...
What...like the mystery of the gun? That is widely known yet still not fixed.

And the human '1M1' symbol being in a place no organic has been before. And the breath scene continues to look and sound like London.

To be fair the 1M1 is also present in the first one when your making your way to fight saren in the citadel at the end. at least I saw a screenshot of it. Have yet to play through the first one again to check.

[CoolioThane]

Punny fancy some MP? Me and Banshee are going for Reaper Gold?

[TJBartlemus]

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

bsn posting hates me, brb peppers going into my eyes.

Be sure to use the habinero peppers.  I prefer slamming my head into the desk multiple times though.  

[masster blaster]

HellishFiend wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Notice they did not fix the incorrect explosion order in EC even though it was a fairly well known error. Along with the many other hints to the unreality of the ending events.

What...like the mystery of the gun? That is widely known yet still not fixed.

I'm not sure why anyone would consider that an error. One does not just start an explosion from the wrong place in a full motion video. Those videos have to go through so many quality checks that there is probably an infinitesimally small chance that it was not only an accident but also just so happens to originate from where The Arrival took place.

It was intentional. The fact that it is still in the EC is further indication of that. 

Also where the relays starts exploding in the Viper nebula.

[RavenEyry]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...
What...like the mystery of the gun? That is widely known yet still not fixed.

And the human '1M1' symbol being in a place no organic has been before. And the breath scene continues to look and sound like London.

To be fair the 1M1 is also present in the first one when your making your way to fight saren in the citadel at the end. at least I saw a screenshot of it. Have yet to play through the first one again to check.

[Rifneno]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...
What...like the mystery of the gun? That is widely known yet still not fixed.

And the human '1M1' symbol being in a place no organic has been before. And the breath scene continues to look and sound like London.

To be fair the 1M1 is also present in the first one when your making your way to fight saren in the citadel at the end. at least I saw a screenshot of it. Have yet to play through the first one again to check.

That's the point.  Shepard is imagining the area and using familiar imagery.  "Your mind interprets our world as something familiar to you."  He's on the outside of the Citadel so he's picturing something he saw the only other time he was on the outside of the Citadel.

[masster blaster]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

RoboticWays wrote...

So many responses, I never played the Arrival DLC so i was unaware of that. And if he was indoctrinated, then he was forced as a puppet by the Reapers to open the Citadel, and activate the crucible? If he were and indoctrinated puppet,he would side with TIM and back him up throughout the game.

No you misunderstand the Indoctrination theory I think.

Shepard is not Indoctrinated yet, he is undergoing the process towards Indoctrination.

The events on Earth is the breaking point. Essentially under the etjory everything Shepard sees after the beam is a hallucination in his mind brought on by him fighting the Indoctrination. TIM is first agressive aprt of the Indoctrination as the Reapers try to forcefully turn Shepard over and the choice is the trick part as Shepard has resisted the initial assult and now they have to trick his mind into agreeing with the Reaper philophy on their own.

Destroy represents resistance, Shepard casting aside Indoctrination and holding firm to his beliefs.

Weird!

wait I didn't know the beams originated from the area "the Arrival" dlc is? that's interesting.

It dose look like it's the same place, only in ME3 it's just turned to the left because the galaxy is spining.

What do you think about this Robotic?

Modifié par masster blaster, 13 juillet 2012 - 08:41 .

[Priss Blackburne]

RavenEyry wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...
What...like the mystery of the gun? That is widely known yet still not fixed.

And the human '1M1' symbol being in a place no organic has been before. And the breath scene continues to look and sound like London.

To be fair the 1M1 is also present in the first one when your making your way to fight saren in the citadel at the end. at least I saw a screenshot of it. Have yet to play through the first one again to check.

ah okay see your point. That's twice in the last few days I replying without really fully reading the original post apparently

[TJBartlemus]

CoolioThane wrote...

Punny fancy some MP? Me and Banshee are going for Reaper Gold?

Reaper Gold. Little coins spread into the currency to indoctrinate the population. *shudder* 

[RoboticWays]

So opinions... Will the SP DLC start with a Shepard waking up outside of the Conduit with the battle won, or will he wake up broken free from the indoctrination and proceed to go up to the Conduit and control the Reapers? There are differing opinions on how the IT is actually working. The star child scene is real, or its a dream sequence? pick one.

[RavenEyry]

So not only does the first explosion happen in the system you encounter object rho (suspicious enough as it is) but in the system who's relay kinda already exploded months before?

[ThisOneIsPunny]

CoolioThane wrote...

Punny fancy some MP? Me and Banshee are going for Reaper Gold?

Sure! I'll be on in a minute.

[masster blaster]

RavenEyry wrote...

So not only does the first explosion happen in the system you encounter object rho (suspicious enough as it is) but in the system who's relay kinda already exploded months before?

Yep.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

RoboticWays wrote...

So opinions... Will the SP DLC start with a Shepard waking up outside of the Conduit with the battle won, or will he wake up broken free from the indoctrination and proceed to go up to the Conduit and control the Reapers? There are differing opinions on how the IT is actually working. The star child scene is real, or its a dream sequence? pick one.

How can we pick one when everyone in this thread has there own ideas? It is part of why we are here, to try out theories and have others look them over.

The most common from what I have seen is that everything with TIM and the catalyst is a dream as the Breath Scene is seems to be on Earth.

As for what happens when Shepard wakes up everyone has their own ideas. It largerly boils down to what exactly the Cruible then does as as of this moment the battle cannot be won without the Crucible evening the odds in some way.

How it does so however is up for debate, one of my own theories is that it might turn the Citadel into a giant Mass Accelerator cannon similar to what took out the Derelict reaper from ME2.

[masster blaster]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

RoboticWays wrote...

So opinions... Will the SP DLC start with a Shepard waking up outside of the Conduit with the battle won, or will he wake up broken free from the indoctrination and proceed to go up to the Conduit and control the Reapers? There are differing opinions on how the IT is actually working. The star child scene is real, or its a dream sequence? pick one.

How can we pick one when everyone in this thread has there own ideas? It is part of why we are here, to try out theories and have others look them over.

The most common from what I have seen is that everything with TIM and the catalyst is a dream as the Breath Scene is seems to be on Earth.

As for what happens when Shepard wakes up everyone has their own ideas. It largerly boils down to what exactly the Cruible then does as as of this moment the battle cannot be won without the Crucible evening the odds in some way.

How it does so however is up for debate, one of my own theories is that it might turn the Citadel into a giant Mass Accelerator cannon similar to what took out the Derelict reaper from ME2.

yep, or power ranger Zorg with the Citadel.

[TJBartlemus]

RoboticWays wrote...

So opinions... Will the SP DLC start with a Shepard waking up outside of the Conduit with the battle won, or will he wake up broken free from the indoctrination and proceed to go up to the Conduit and control the Reapers? There are differing opinions on how the IT is actually working. The star child scene is real, or its a dream sequence? pick one.

I sort of prefer my WNT because it has aspects of both literal and in the mind. This way you still use the Crucible, and explain everything else that is wrong. This way you don't have to choose. Everyone is right. 

The Crucible is going to be used anyway. There always has to be a super weapon in sci-fi. The Crucible is this. Only the Reapers are trying to twist it so it benefits them. 

[Priss Blackburne]

RoboticWays wrote...

So opinions... Will the SP DLC start with a Shepard waking up outside of the Conduit with the battle won, or will he wake up broken free from the indoctrination and proceed to go up to the Conduit and control the Reapers? There are differing opinions on how the IT is actually working. The star child scene is real, or its a dream sequence? pick one.

I'm conflicted in that I loathe the Catalyst kid, But I love the Shepard & Anderson scene and don't want to lose that.

edit : But I'm leaning towards waking nightmare.

Modifié par Priss Blackburne, 13 juillet 2012 - 08:43 .

[masster blaster]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

RoboticWays wrote...

So opinions... Will the SP DLC start with a Shepard waking up outside of the Conduit with the battle won, or will he wake up broken free from the indoctrination and proceed to go up to the Conduit and control the Reapers? There are differing opinions on how the IT is actually working. The star child scene is real, or its a dream sequence? pick one.

I'm conflicted in that I loathe the Catalyst kid, But I love the Shepard & Anderson scene and don't want to lose that.

But what if Anderson lives and says an new speech to Shepard after the battle is over?


Oh and maybe they took out the extra context with Shepard and Anderson about Shepard being a mom or dad because Casey wanted that in the after math of the battle if IT is correct and we win some how.

Modifié par masster blaster, 13 juillet 2012 - 08:44 .

[TJBartlemus]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

RoboticWays wrote...

So opinions... Will the SP DLC start with a Shepard waking up outside of the Conduit with the battle won, or will he wake up broken free from the indoctrination and proceed to go up to the Conduit and control the Reapers? There are differing opinions on how the IT is actually working. The star child scene is real, or its a dream sequence? pick one.

I'm conflicted in that I loathe the Catalyst kid, But I love the Shepard & Anderson scene and don't want to lose that.

Waking Nightmare Theory....... 

[Turbo_J]

RoboticWays wrote...

So opinions... Will the SP DLC start with a Shepard waking up outside of the Conduit with the battle won, or will he wake up broken free from the indoctrination and proceed to go up to the Conduit and control the Reapers? There are differing opinions on how the IT is actually working. The star child scene is real, or its a dream sequence? pick one.

Not sure if they'll do it that way at all. There may be no immediate resolution. Shep also likely blew up the power source for an indoctrination device and is; by evidence of the breath scene, in need of medical attention before they try to get back into the fight. There is also no way to know for sure if they can. Indoctrination can be delayed; potentially indefinitely, but the mind will never fully be free of it. In Shepard's weakened state, it is likely the end of their participation in the war... unless the DLC  or ME4 puts us on a path to discovering a way to reverse or prevent Indoctrination.

[Simon_Says]

RoboticWays wrote...

So opinions... Will the SP DLC start with a Shepard waking up outside of the Conduit with the battle won, or will he wake up broken free from the indoctrination and proceed to go up to the Conduit and control the Reapers? There are differing opinions on how the IT is actually working. The star child scene is real, or its a dream sequence? pick one.

Some prefer waking hallucinations. Some prefer Shepard in a coma. There's an in-between: remember how in the geth concensus symbolic action within had real results in meatspace? I don't think the end of ME3 is any different.

That's what I'm personally hoping for at any rate. Probably not Space Magic but something that evens the odds.

[RavenEyry]

I don't think there will be a DLC. I think the idea is for everyone to decide for themselves what happens afterwards, same as I think the original face value endings were so you could decide the consequences for yourself, but they cocked up the presentation majorly.

[Priss Blackburne]

Turbo_J wrote...

RoboticWays wrote...

So opinions... Will the SP DLC start with a Shepard waking up outside of the Conduit with the battle won, or will he wake up broken free from the indoctrination and proceed to go up to the Conduit and control the Reapers? There are differing opinions on how the IT is actually working. The star child scene is real, or its a dream sequence? pick one.

Not sure if they'll do it that way at all. There may be no immediate resolution. Shep also likely blew up the power source for an indoctrination device and is; by evidence of the breath scene, in need of medical attention before they try to get back into the fight. There is also no way to know for sure if they can. Indoctrination can be delayed; potentially indefinitely, but the mind will never fully be free of it. In Shepard's weakened state, it is likely the end of their participation in the war... unless the DLC  or ME4 puts us on a path to discovering a way to reverse or prevent Indoctrination.

I'm so excited for Tomorrow and hope for an annoucment of Leviathan DLC if it's true. Could shed some light on the reapers and indoctrination.

Modifié par Priss Blackburne, 13 juillet 2012 - 08:45 .

[Turbo_J]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

RoboticWays wrote...

So opinions... Will the SP DLC start with a Shepard waking up outside of the Conduit with the battle won, or will he wake up broken free from the indoctrination and proceed to go up to the Conduit and control the Reapers? There are differing opinions on how the IT is actually working. The star child scene is real, or its a dream sequence? pick one.

I'm conflicted in that I loathe the Catalyst kid, But I love the Shepard & Anderson scene and don't want to lose that.

edit : But I'm leaning towards waking nightmare.

It will always be there, even if it was Shepard talking to Shepard... you have the ability to interpret it any way you like.

I am as well, but I think my perception is different. Full on hallkucination starts at the truck/transpot crash just prior to the run to the beam/(beacon <-remember, it was referred to as a beacon by someone @ BW)

After that transport crash, viewbob is AFAIK, always present and so are those piles of bodies in armor so outdated a lvl 1 Preditor could kill the wearer in a single shot.

Modifié par Turbo_J, 13 juillet 2012 - 08:49 .