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[paxxton]

So what's up with the window?

[Either.Ardrey]

Chriz_Tah_Fah and I just completed Reaper Gold. It was pretty hectic. Hoo-ah!

[Chriz Tah Fah]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Chriz_Tah_Fah and I just completed Reaper Gold. It was pretty hectic. Hoo-ah!

I had no idea that the Inf cloak time was cut in HALF. Man, I was not ready for the 4 indoctrination booster objectives when I learned the hard way. 

PS: Ravagers are Nemesis' cept they shoot 3 times.

[Vaya]

paxxton wrote...

So what's up with the window?

Windows are a structural weakness, use Linux.

[invetro]

paxxton wrote...

Could someone tell me why a window was broken when the conversation with Sovereign was ended?

I know high frequencies can shatter glass, not sure about very low frequencies though.  Sovereign seemed pretty annoyed at that point, maybe he was projecting some infrasound into the area.

[FreddyCast]

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

You're missing my point.
Yes, you can go to any other system using the Viper Nebula. But, in order to get to those locations, you MUST first jump through the Local Cluster Relay before reaching your desired destination.
This is how the Mass Effect 2 Galaxy Map works.

Yes, but they stated that the Alpha relay goes DIRECTLY to all other relays.

That info is meaningless, knowing that the Starting point is the Apien Crest, not the Viper Nebula. Not being mean, just pointing out the obvious.

I'm starting to think it's neither.
Also here, found this on ye olde thread.
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9727423/2246#12012564

I hope my video clarifies it for you if you haven't seen it yet.

But where you labeled the Viper Nebula doesn't look right? It's not on the same arm as the Apien crest or Aethon cluster. Now that I'm watching the splodey colors again, it does seem like it could be Apien crest. Second place hit would then be Aethon cluster, and this still doesn't make any sense as a starting point to the splosions.

Remember that the ending Galaxy has a different look than the Galaxy Map, so it looks like the Apien Crest is not on the same arm as the Viper Nebula in the Galaxy Map, but they are on the same arm, with the Viper Nebula being at the very end of that arm. And you can see in the ending Galaxy that the arm looks more faint at the tip of it, and this where the Viper Nebula is.

[paxxton]

Vaya wrote...

paxxton wrote...

So what's up with the window?

Windows are a structural weakness, use Linux.

LOL. I meant the broken window after the conversation with Sovereign. Why was it broken, just for show? What caused it?

[paxxton]

invetro wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Could someone tell me why a window was broken when the conversation with Sovereign was ended?

I know high frequencies can shatter glass, not sure about very low frequencies though.  Sovereign seemed pretty annoyed at that point, maybe he was projecting some infrasound into the area.

Hmm... Interesting. Ultrasounds are high frequency sounds, btw. But I'm still not convinced.

Modifié par paxxton, 14 juillet 2012 - 01:45 .

[Vaya]

invetro wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Could someone tell me why a window was broken when the conversation with Sovereign was ended?

I know high frequencies can shatter glass, not sure about very low frequencies though.  Sovereign seemed pretty annoyed at that point, maybe he was projecting some infrasound into the area.

He did seem PO'd, might have been his first attempt at subtle indoctrination, and it failed so he "turned up the volume"

[Dam0299]

Vaya wrote...

Dam0299 wrote...

Has anyone else noticed that in all 3 (or 4) endings both pre and post EC dlc, We are NEVER shown what happens to Harbinger, Are we supposed to just assume that he was destroyed/controlled or part of the synthesis group now?, I find it hard to believe that Bioware would go out of the way to kill/defeat the antagonist of 2 games offscreen. Im not convinced he is gone till I see his robotic corpse floating somewhere within the Sol system.

Right, they introduced a soverign level antagonist at the end of ME2, built up the whole game just to introduce him even, and then forgot about him for all of the third game. Must be bad writing. Seems legit.


I don't think we are done yet, that would be bad writing of epic proportions.

While we did not know who he truely was until the end of ME2, we did fight him throughout ME2 as the collector general. plus the arrival DLC. Plus since he is apparantly the leader of the reapers according to the codex.

[Dam0299]

@paxxton, I have to agree, we have heard that reapers can roar quite loudly, some scenes showed that it was ear-peircing to those nearby. It does not seem that far a stretch that they could probably break glass with sound.

[paxxton]

Dam0299 wrote...

@paxxton, I have to agree, we have heard that reapers can roar quite loudly, some scenes showed that it was ear-peircing to those nearby. It does not seem that far a stretch that they could probably break glass with sound.

Yes, but there was no roaring in that scene. Ultrasounds are more probable. In fact, Vaya might be right suggesting that the scene was Sovereign's attempt at indoctrination.

[Arian Dynas]

Vaya wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Noticed this thread doesn't talk about the IT theory much anymore....

Has everyone given up, or lost hope?

Well, my inquiry as to how we should defeat the Reapers through unconventional means is related to the IT, in that if it's true we are going to need a new ending, and part of that ending demands an answer as to how to defeat the Reapers.

More seriously , I think the reapers best weapon isn't overwhelming firepower, it's indoctrination. Beat that and you have a chance, which would be why the Illusive man was studing it, not because he wanted to control the reapers.

Thats why its the key to the ending.

Thats why we are talking about it, Indoctrination Theory and all that.

Not of course, that there isn't alot to be said about overwhelming firepower.

[Vaya]

Dam0299 wrote...

Vaya wrote...

Dam0299 wrote...

Has anyone else noticed that in all 3 (or 4) endings both pre and post EC dlc, We are NEVER shown what happens to Harbinger, Are we supposed to just assume that he was destroyed/controlled or part of the synthesis group now?, I find it hard to believe that Bioware would go out of the way to kill/defeat the antagonist of 2 games offscreen. Im not convinced he is gone till I see his robotic corpse floating somewhere within the Sol system.

Right, they introduced a soverign level antagonist at the end of ME2, built up the whole game just to introduce him even, and then forgot about him for all of the third game. Must be bad writing. Seems legit.


I don't think we are done yet, that would be bad writing of epic proportions.

While we did not know who he truely was until the end of ME2, we did fight him throughout ME2 as the collector general. plus the arrival DLC. Plus since he is apparantly the leader of the reapers according to the codex.

The datapad at the end of ME2 is the information that Shepard and TIM get on Harbinger, it's his intro, clarified by the arrival DLC. Everything there implies he's the central opponent for the next game, and yet he has at best a cameo, it dosen't add up. Unless hes right there behind the scenes.

[Vaya]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Vaya wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Noticed this thread doesn't talk about the IT theory much anymore....

Has everyone given up, or lost hope?

Well, my inquiry as to how we should defeat the Reapers through unconventional means is related to the IT, in that if it's true we are going to need a new ending, and part of that ending demands an answer as to how to defeat the Reapers.

More seriously , I think the reapers best weapon isn't overwhelming firepower, it's indoctrination. Beat that and you have a chance, which would be why the Illusive man was studing it, not because he wanted to control the reapers.

Thats why its the key to the ending.

Thats why we are talking about it, Indoctrination Theory and all that.

Not of course, that there isn't alot to be said about overwhelming firepower.

Other than writing yourself into a corner you can't get out of without a Deus Ex Machina?

Adding: if you're going to write your hero into a corner in order to build tension, you had better have a way out of it before hand without divine intervention, that or I'll send you back to the slush pile.

Modifié par Vaya, 14 juillet 2012 - 02:17 .

[SwiftSlash]

I'm sorry, I try to keep up with you folks, but is there a viable explanation of the sharp sound after Shepard opens his eyes after traveling through the beam?

[L0NEWOLF25]

You can hear a small background noise in the background after soveraign says "This exchange is over"

Modifié par L0NEWOLF25, 14 juillet 2012 - 02:20 .

[Vaya]

SwiftSlash wrote...

I'm sorry, I try to keep up with you folks, but is there a viable explanation of the sharp sound after Shepard opens his eyes after traveling through the beam?

The most similar noise I've heard is the reaper noises from the Prothean becon vision from ME1, but it still dosen't seem right. It's intentional, and its definitely not natural. We'd all like to know.

Modifié par Vaya, 14 juillet 2012 - 02:31 .

[Dam0299]

Vaya wrote...

SwiftSlash wrote...

I'm sorry, I try to keep up with you folks, but is there a viable explanation of the sharp sound after Shepard opens his eyes after traveling through the beam?

The most similar noise I've heard is the reaper noises from the Prothean becon vision from ME1, but it still dosen't seem right. It's intentional, and its definitely not natural. We'd all like to know.

I agree, I just went through that scene, and it is definately not a cough, it sounds almost electronic.

[Priss Blackburne]

Vaya wrote...

SwiftSlash wrote...

I'm sorry, I try to keep up with you folks, but is there a viable explanation of the sharp sound after Shepard opens his eyes after traveling through the beam?

The most similar noise I've heard is the reaper noises from the Prothean becon vision from ME1, but it still dosen't seem right. It's intentional, and its definitely not natural. We'd all like to know.

It's funny I was going into the EC looking for signs of IT. But I still went "WTF is that!" when that happened. At first I thought it was a Defib sound almost. But playing through it again it was a weird mechanical like noise.

Modifié par Priss Blackburne, 14 juillet 2012 - 02:42 .

[iiNOMADii]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

Vaya wrote...

SwiftSlash wrote...

I'm sorry, I try to keep up with you folks, but is there a viable explanation of the sharp sound after Shepard opens his eyes after traveling through the beam?

The most similar noise I've heard is the reaper noises from the Prothean becon vision from ME1, but it still dosen't seem right. It's intentional, and its definitely not natural. We'd all like to know.

It's funny I was going into the EC looking for signs of IT. But I still went "WTF is that!" when that happened. At first I thought it was a Defib sound almost. But playing through it again it was a weird mechanical like noise.

It's like they're just toying with us at this point.

[SwiftSlash]

Something really strange I just found looking into the sound I was just talking about...
http://www.youtube.c...rMMTa830#t=617s Doesn't even make the sound. Furthermore, it seems to give Andersen's voice a reaper overlay.
(scene that I've seen: www.youtube.com/watch)
What could that mean?

Modifié par SwiftSlash, 14 juillet 2012 - 02:51 .

[Dam0299]

SwiftSlash wrote...

Something really strange I just found looking into the sound I was just talking about...
http://www.youtube.c...rMMTa830#t=617s Doesn't even make the sound. Furthermore, it seems to give Andersen's voice a reaper overlay.

What could that mean?

You can hear it at the exact same time Anderson says Shepards name.

[Vaya]

iiNOMADii wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

Vaya wrote...

SwiftSlash wrote...

I'm sorry, I try to keep up with you folks, but is there a viable explanation of the sharp sound after Shepard opens his eyes after traveling through the beam?

The most similar noise I've heard is the reaper noises from the Prothean becon vision from ME1, but it still dosen't seem right. It's intentional, and its definitely not natural. We'd all like to know.

It's funny I was going into the EC looking for signs of IT. But I still went "WTF is that!" when that happened. At first I thought it was a Defib sound almost. But playing through it again it was a weird mechanical like noise.

It's like they're just toying with us at this point.

It's funny actually, the vast majority of the clues are circumstantial, if pointed. But that noise isn't in question, it's deliberate.

[dreamgazer]

iiNOMADii wrote...

It's like they're just toying with us at this point.

Or, they were strengthening the interpretation while avoiding/weakening the "theory" aspect.