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[Arian Dynas]

Not sure, could be either by this point.

[UltimateTobi]

They should release it, when the quality is at its optimum.
"Beware of the future, human. Sometimes, nothing seems like it looks like. Indoctrination is a process, you can't divide from reality."

Modifié par UltimateTobi, 14 juillet 2012 - 10:58 .

[Eryri]

UltimateTobi wrote...

They should release it, when the quality is at its optimum.

Agreed. As long as they give us some hope that something good is coming in the meantime. Nothing too concrete, just something to keep us intrigued.

[UltimateTobi]

Eryri wrote...

Agreed. As long as they give us some hope that something good is coming in the meantime. Nothing too concrete, just something to keep us intrigued.

Something like a trailer would be cool. No spoilers, just some action scenes for example.

Modifié par UltimateTobi, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:04 .

[spiriticon]

There's a lot of pages here for me to scroll through, i haven't been here in a while.

But has anyone suggested that the Reject ending could be Shepard giving in to indoctrination and allowing the Reapers to continue the cycle?? Just an idea that popped into my head.

[UltimateTobi]

spiriticon wrote...

There's a lot of pages here for me to scroll through, i haven't been here in a while.

But has anyone suggested that the Reject ending could be Shepard giving in to indoctrination and allowing the Reapers to continue the cycle?? Just an idea that popped into my head.

My interpretation of Reject is like resisting, though too weakwilled to survive. "I die free." Kinda fitting.

[RavenEyry]

spiriticon wrote...

There's a lot of pages here for me to scroll through, i haven't been here in a while.

But has anyone suggested that the Reject ending could be Shepard giving in to indoctrination and allowing the Reapers to continue the cycle?? Just an idea that popped into my head.

I consider reject to be Harbinger just killing Shep for refusing to play his game, but there are many differing opinions on it.

[UltimateTobi]

I think Raven's and my interpretations are similar, except for the difference how Shepard dies. Either through being killed by Reaper forces/or Harbinger, or just dying because he's a mental wreckage and of no use anymore.

Edit: Reject is a poker face.

Modifié par UltimateTobi, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:11 .

[spiriticon]

You see, the Reapers are masters of manipulation of mind, as evidenced with the Illusive Man. They make you think that you are fighting for your own goals, but actually you are doing what they want you to do.

They want you to let the cycle continue by making it seem like you are standing for your own freedom, if you guys understand what I mean,, =/

[UltimateTobi]

spiriticon wrote...

You see, the Reapers are masters of manipulation of mind, as evidenced with the Illusive Man. They make you think that you are fighting for your own goals, but actually you are doing what they want you to do.

They want you to let the cycle continue by making it seem like you are standing for your own freedom, if you guys understand what I mean,, =/

I get what you mean. But why would Starbinger say "So be it!"? Well, in that sense, it's another trap, letting Shepard believe he's free. Though waking up indoctrinated? If that's what you mean, it'd be one interpretation.
Otherwhise sorry if I missed your point.

[Dam0299]

RavenEyry wrote...

spiriticon wrote...

There's a lot of pages here for me to scroll through, i haven't been here in a while.

But has anyone suggested that the Reject ending could be Shepard giving in to indoctrination and allowing the Reapers to continue the cycle?? Just an idea that popped into my head.

I consider reject to be Harbinger just killing Shep for refusing to play his game, but there are many differing opinions on it.

I pretty much think the same thing, The slight pause before the catalyst says "SO BE IT!" it just hints to great rage and anger. Prehaps harbinger kills shep cause he knows that Shepard is definately a lost cause.

[spiriticon]

UltimateTobi wrote...

spiriticon wrote...

You see, the Reapers are masters of manipulation of mind, as evidenced with the Illusive Man. They make you think that you are fighting for your own goals, but actually you are doing what they want you to do.

They want you to let the cycle continue by making it seem like you are standing for your own freedom, if you guys understand what I mean,, =/

I get what you mean. But why would Starbinger say "So be it!"? Well, in that sense, it's another trap, letting Shepard believe he's free. Though waking up indoctrinated? If that's what you mean, it'd be one interpretation.
Otherwhise sorry if I missed your point.

Nope you got the point.

As for "So be it", if you imagine the catalyst with a wry smile on his face as he says that, it can change the meaning of the tone completely.

Edit: It could explain why Shepard looked so dazed and unemotional in the reject ending.

Need to check the cutscenes again.

Modifié par spiriticon, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:18 .

[UltimateTobi]

spiriticon wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

spiriticon wrote...

You see, the Reapers are masters of manipulation of mind, as evidenced with the Illusive Man. They make you think that you are fighting for your own goals, but actually you are doing what they want you to do.

They want you to let the cycle continue by making it seem like you are standing for your own freedom, if you guys understand what I mean,, =/

I get what you mean. But why would Starbinger say "So be it!"? Well, in that sense, it's another trap, letting Shepard believe he's free. Though waking up indoctrinated? If that's what you mean, it'd be one interpretation.
Otherwhise sorry if I missed your point.

Nope you got the point.

As for "So be it", if you imagine the catalyst with a wry smile on his face as he says that, it can change the meaning of the tone completely.

Need to check the cutscenes again.

It's hard to make out facial expressions of the Catalyst. Many see a smirk/grim smile when Shepard chooses Control. Well, I saw it ONCE, I was able to see that once, but now, I don't know why, I can't make that grim out. I just don't see it besides that one-time where I was able to.

If you can find something for Reject, like a facial expression, it might give us new ground to speculate on.

Edit:

spiriticon wrote...

Edit: It could explain why Shepard looked so dazed and unemotional in the reject ending.

Why's that?

Modifié par UltimateTobi, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:20 .

[RavenEyry]

I've not seen more than the ending cutscenes, does Mr. Sparkle still get angry if you sound unsure about synthesis?

[UltimateTobi]

RavenEyry wrote...

I've not seen more than the ending cutscenes, does Mr. Sparkle still get angry if you sound unsure about synthesis?

I know you guys said "Mr Sparkle" often times, but who is he?

[RavenEyry]

UltimateTobi wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I've not seen more than the ending cutscenes, does Mr. Sparkle still get angry if you sound unsure about synthesis?

I know you guys said "Mr Sparkle" often times, but who is he?

It's what I call the reaper ghost kid.

[spiriticon]

UltimateTobi wrote...

Why's that?

I like the reject ending, it just seemed wierd that after rejection, Shepard just stands there looking lost. It's like: you just gave a fantastic speech of rejection, shoot something up as a last stand at least.

Modifié par spiriticon, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:26 .

[UltimateTobi]

RavenEyry wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I've not seen more than the ending cutscenes, does Mr. Sparkle still get angry if you sound unsure about synthesis?

I know you guys said "Mr Sparkle" often times, but who is he?

It's what I call the reaper ghost kid.

Yeah, thought so. ^^ Any special meaning?

[UltimateTobi]

spiriticon wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

Why's that?

I like the reject ending, it just seemed wierd that after rejection, Shepard just stands there looking lost. It's like,yYou just gave a fantastic speech of rejection, shoot something up as a last stand at least.

Hmh yeah. This scene has not much detail.
Like in a dream, if the thing, the dream is about, is over, your dream doesn't build in details like "going back home" or something like that.
It just stops.
Same happens for me in Reject. He rejected hard-time Starbinger, after Starbinger's "So be it!", nothing happens really. Just the short consequence of rejecting; Harbinger shooting a ship, and that was it.

If it'd be reality, I think Shep would search for a way out of there.

Modifié par UltimateTobi, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:28 .

[RavenEyry]

UltimateTobi wrote...
Yeah, thought so. ^^ Any special meaning?

Well he sparkles and is as valuable to the plot as laundry powder.

[UltimateTobi]

RavenEyry wrote...

Well he sparkles and is as valuable to the plot as laundry powder.
[smilie]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e0/Mrsparkle.png[/smilie]

Alright, got it.

Modifié par UltimateTobi, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:31 .

[Rosewind]

Can we not call him Mr Sparkle....

[UltimateTobi]

I don't see the link anymore, when I click on Edit. Can't remove them. -.-

Modifié par UltimateTobi, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:51 .

[RavenEyry]

Rosewind wrote...

Can we not call him Mr Sparkle....

I've been calling him that for months! No other words are typeable by my fingers!

[UltimateTobi]

Anyways. Gotta go for the challenge. See you later!