55528 réponses à ce sujet

[UltimateTobi]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

I want to hear it too. I am too lazy to search on YT now. Feed my laziness.

As I said before. It doesn't really sound like a reaper, femshep, or broshep. It could be Harbinger I GUESS.

Thank you.
I am not sure, it could sound like a softened voice of Harbinger. Or just an echoe sound.

[MaximizedAction]

EDIT: ^ Dem Talis

munnellyladt wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

I was listening to starkid again,and i heard something weird and it is faint but distinct.

When he says "the paths are open but you have to choose"you can faintly hear a reaper voice when he says choose,its kind of an echo so it's after he says it.Or it may be nothing but it just sounded strange to me.

You're not the only one who noticed this. I remember somebody thought this might be Harbinger...

Well the first time i noticed it, i did think of harbinger. maybe there's distinct words that the catalyst says that may have a reaper echo.

Well, besides SO BE IT, there's him getting all echo-y on Shep when he doubts the explaination of Destroy: "Your belief is not required".
There is much awesomeness buried in this line! For one, this is the oposite of what TIM said: "I need you to believe/Have a little faith".

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:07 .

[The Heretic of Time]

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

Come on, if we dont have literalists in here, then its just going to be a bunch of us confirming how awesome we all are, and long stretches of silence as we dont discuss anything.

Agreed. But the literalist in question is not what you'd call a benefit to the conversation.

I would like it if you guys would stop calling me a literalist. I also stopped calling you guys cultists long ago, so yeah.

Not that I feel offended. I just don't think the term "literalist" is appropiate when it comes to the Mass Effect 3 ending and how I choose to interpretate it.

I'd rather call myself a pragmaticist. I'm very pragmatic when it comes to trying to make sense of the ME3 endings. I usually try to find the shortest and easiest explanation that relies on the least assumptions.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:07 .

[smokingotter1]

UltimateTobi wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

I want to hear it too. I am too lazy to search on YT now. Feed my laziness.

As I said before. It doesn't really sound like a reaper, femshep, or broshep. It could be Harbinger I GUESS.

Thank you.
I am not sure, it could sound like a softened voice of Harbinger. Or just an echoe sound.

Whoa whoa whoat!!! I just caught something (smug face) if you watch as Shepard starts shooting at the tube the sound of the shots switches from the carnifax to the predator! Did anyone notice that?!

[UltimateTobi]

MaximizedAction wrote...

EDIT: ^ Dem Talis

We know you want it.

[UltimateTobi]

smokingotter1 wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

I want to hear it too. I am too lazy to search on YT now. Feed my laziness.

As I said before. It doesn't really sound like a reaper, femshep, or broshep. It could be Harbinger I GUESS.

Thank you.
I am not sure, it could sound like a softened voice of Harbinger. Or just an echoe sound.

Whoa whoa whoat!!! I just caught something (smug face) if you watch as Shepard starts shooting at the tube the sound of the shots switches from the carnifax to the predator! Did anyone notice that?!

The weapon even changes from a Carnifex to a Predator, when the shockwave of the tube hits the weapon.
It already got captured with flycam, prettz did it.

[Chriz Tah Fah]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

Come on, if we dont have literalists in here, then its just going to be a bunch of us confirming how awesome we all are, and long stretches of silence as we dont discuss anything.

Agreed. But the literalist in question is not what you'd call a benefit to the conversation.

I would like it if you guys would stop calling me a literalist. I also stopped calling you guys cultists long ago, so yeah.

Not that I feel offended. I just don't think the term "literalist" is appropiate when it comes to the Mass Effect 3 ending and how I choose to interpretate it.

I'd rather call myself a pragmaticist. I'm very pragmatic when it comes to trying to make sense of the ME3 endings. I usually try to find the shortest and easiest explanation that relies on the least assumptions.

Nobody here is trying to say that it is impossible that the literal ending to be the real ending. We are just saying that the literal ending seems unrealistic and a bit too shallow to be the end of the Mass Effect series. If there was a weak part of the entire series it would be the end. The question would be, if bioware were to screw up a part of the series, why make it the end? While you might say that the literal ending is the real ending you would probably not argue that it is a great ending that should have been the end of Mass Effect.

[Priss Blackburne]

smokingotter1 wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

I want to hear it too. I am too lazy to search on YT now. Feed my laziness.

As I said before. It doesn't really sound like a reaper, femshep, or broshep. It could be Harbinger I GUESS.

Thank you.
I am not sure, it could sound like a softened voice of Harbinger. Or just an echoe sound.

Whoa whoa whoat!!! I just caught something (smug face) if you watch as Shepard starts shooting at the tube the sound of the shots switches from the carnifax to the predator! Did anyone notice that?!

yeah I believe the pistol actually changes from the Carnifax to the predator at the end of it.

[The Heretic of Time]

munnellyladt wrote...

I was listening to starkid again,and i heard something weird and it is faint but distinct.

When he says "the paths are open but you have to choose"you can faintly hear a reaper voice when he says choose,its kind of an echo so it's after he says it.Or it may be nothing but it just sounded strange to me.

When the Starbrat talks, he's actually 3 voices in one. Panned a the center, is the child voice, panned to the left speaker is the femShep voice and panned to the right speaker is the maleShep voice.

In that line, the maleShep voice is a bit dominant, which is what you probably thought was a reaper voice.

[smokingotter1]

smokingotter1 wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

I want to hear it too. I am too lazy to search on YT now. Feed my laziness.

As I said before. It doesn't really sound like a reaper, femshep, or broshep. It could be Harbinger I GUESS.

Thank you.
I am not sure, it could sound like a softened voice of Harbinger. Or just an echoe sound.

Whoa whoa whoat!!! I just caught something (smug face) if you watch as Shepard starts shooting at the tube the sound of the shots switches from the carnifax to the predator! Did anyone notice that?!

This plays into my theory that the decision chamber is an overlay of the the conduit run, what is happening in real life is happening in super slow mo in the decision chamber. The starchild gives Shepard the option of destroy, but its not the option to destroy reapers... (remember in the decision chamber you are seeing through reaper goggles) but to destroy Shepard. The tube exploding is Harbinger's beam. The carnifax switching from the predator is the illusion breaking.

[UltimateTobi]

smokingotter1 wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

I want to hear it too. I am too lazy to search on YT now. Feed my laziness.

As I said before. It doesn't really sound like a reaper, femshep, or broshep. It could be Harbinger I GUESS.

Thank you.
I am not sure, it could sound like a softened voice of Harbinger. Or just an echoe sound.

Whoa whoa whoat!!! I just caught something (smug face) if you watch as Shepard starts shooting at the tube the sound of the shots switches from the carnifax to the predator! Did anyone notice that?!

This plays into my theory that the decision chamber is an overlay of the the conduit run, what is happening in real life is happening in super slow mo in the decision chamber. The starchild gives Shepard the option of destroy, but its not the option to destroy reapers... (remember in the decision chamber you are seeing through reaper goggles) but to destroy Shepard. The tube exploding is Harbinger's beam. The carnifax switching from the predator is the illusion breaking.

Watch this, 'til the end.

[Rifneno]

smokingotter1 wrote...

Whoa whoa whoat!!! I just caught something (smug face) if you watch as Shepard starts shooting at the tube the sound of the shots switches from the carnifax to the predator! Did anyone notice that?!

You just caught that?  Good eye.  It took a couple of months before the first time anyone in the thread noticed it.  Further investigation revealed: 1) it switches as soon as the first shockwave hits Shepard, 2) the predator is only loaded into RAM for usage in destroy, not in control or synthesis.  In other words, it's definitely intentional.

[munnellyladt]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

I was listening to starkid again,and i heard something weird and it is faint but distinct.

When he says "the paths are open but you have to choose"you can faintly hear a reaper voice when he says choose,its kind of an echo so it's after he says it.Or it may be nothing but it just sounded strange to me.

When the Starbrat talks, he's actually 3 voices in one. Panned a the center, is the child voice, panned to the left speaker is the femShep voice and panned to the right speaker is the maleShep voice.

In that line, the maleShep voice is a bit dominant, which is what you probably thought was a reaper voice.

Yes i know that ,but if you listen to that echo it does not sound like male shep.it definitely sounds reaper-like

[Chriz Tah Fah]

smokingotter1 wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

I want to hear it too. I am too lazy to search on YT now. Feed my laziness.

As I said before. It doesn't really sound like a reaper, femshep, or broshep. It could be Harbinger I GUESS.

Thank you.
I am not sure, it could sound like a softened voice of Harbinger. Or just an echoe sound.

Whoa whoa whoat!!! I just caught something (smug face) if you watch as Shepard starts shooting at the tube the sound of the shots switches from the carnifax to the predator! Did anyone notice that?!

This plays into my theory that the decision chamber is an overlay of the the conduit run, what is happening in real life is happening in super slow mo in the decision chamber. The starchild gives Shepard the option of destroy, but its not the option to destroy reapers... (remember in the decision chamber you are seeing through reaper goggles) but to destroy Shepard. The tube exploding is Harbinger's beam. The carnifax switching from the predator is the illusion breaking.

But, under this logic. Wouldn't synthesis and control still be indoctrination? This would make rejection the real ending when it seemed agreed upon that it was really just Shepard giving up. This still would not explain the breath only being in the Destroy ending.

[smokingotter1]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

I want to hear it too. I am too lazy to search on YT now. Feed my laziness.

As I said before. It doesn't really sound like a reaper, femshep, or broshep. It could be Harbinger I GUESS.

Thank you.
I am not sure, it could sound like a softened voice of Harbinger. Or just an echoe sound.

Whoa whoa whoat!!! I just caught something (smug face) if you watch as Shepard starts shooting at the tube the sound of the shots switches from the carnifax to the predator! Did anyone notice that?!

yeah I believe the pistol actually changes from the Carnifax to the predator at the end of it.

Yeah but I don't know if they changed the sound for the EC to make it more obvious, but this is the first time I caught it.

[The Heretic of Time]

smokingotter1 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

You don't have to agree with it, but this should explain to you as clear as day why I personally never liked control or synthesis (warning long video). I'm too lazy to explain it in writing. Video is found here.

Here is my answer... are you not entertained?!

Not liking something is one thing, but being actually offended by someone's signature is something else. You're not saying that you too are offended by my Control signature, are you?


Edit: Your link doesn't work (the first link). I'd like to watch your video, but you have to fix the link for me first. 

Doh! I'll do it the old fashioned way: 

Ah, that video, I've already seen it before. It's an interesting video, I'll give you that much. I didn't find it very convincing though. But kudo's tot he one who put all the effort in making that video, that's for sure.

Anyway, I do understand where you're coming from now. But I do not agree with it myself.

[UltimateTobi]

smokingotter1 wrote...

Yeah but I don't know if they changed the sound for the EC to make it more obvious, but this is the first time I caught it.

You can see the change in slow-mo in the link I replied you.

[Priss Blackburne]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

Come on, if we dont have literalists in here, then its just going to be a bunch of us confirming how awesome we all are, and long stretches of silence as we dont discuss anything.

Agreed. But the literalist in question is not what you'd call a benefit to the conversation.

I would like it if you guys would stop calling me a literalist. I also stopped calling you guys cultists long ago, so yeah.

Not that I feel offended. I just don't think the term "literalist" is appropiate when it comes to the Mass Effect 3 ending and how I choose to interpretate it.

I'd rather call myself a pragmaticist. I'm very pragmatic when it comes to trying to make sense of the ME3 endings. I usually try to find the shortest and easiest explanation that relies on the least assumptions.

Nobody here is trying to say that it is impossible that the literal ending to be the real ending. We are just saying that the literal ending seems unrealistic and a bit too shallow to be the end of the Mass Effect series. If there was a weak part of the entire series it would be the end. The question would be, if bioware were to screw up a part of the series, why make it the end? While you might say that the literal ending is the real ending you would probably not argue that it is a great ending that should have been the end of Mass Effect.

To me the ending s is really out of place given the writing and story up to that point. Alot of people seem to want to blame Casey and Mac. But forget that they have been with Mass Effect from the very begining.

[smokingotter1]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

I want to hear it too. I am too lazy to search on YT now. Feed my laziness.

As I said before. It doesn't really sound like a reaper, femshep, or broshep. It could be Harbinger I GUESS.

Thank you.
I am not sure, it could sound like a softened voice of Harbinger. Or just an echoe sound.

Whoa whoa whoat!!! I just caught something (smug face) if you watch as Shepard starts shooting at the tube the sound of the shots switches from the carnifax to the predator! Did anyone notice that?!

This plays into my theory that the decision chamber is an overlay of the the conduit run, what is happening in real life is happening in super slow mo in the decision chamber. The starchild gives Shepard the option of destroy, but its not the option to destroy reapers... (remember in the decision chamber you are seeing through reaper goggles) but to destroy Shepard. The tube exploding is Harbinger's beam. The carnifax switching from the predator is the illusion breaking.

But, under this logic. Wouldn't synthesis and control still be indoctrination? This would make rejection the real ending when it seemed agreed upon that it was really just Shepard giving up. This still would not explain the breath only being in the Destroy ending.

Symbolism, even though Shepard is heading towards the laser he is still fighting indoctrination. He's shooting at glass fighting his way out of the dream (Matriach Benezia said fighting indoctrination was like shooting at glass). In refuse Shepard is like "I know this is an illusion so I'm not cooperating" but it's not just an illusion, its all happening in slow time.

edit: I meant Benezia said it was like pounding on glass, my bad.

Modifié par smokingotter1, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:17 .

[Chriz Tah Fah]

smokingotter1 wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

I want to hear it too. I am too lazy to search on YT now. Feed my laziness.

As I said before. It doesn't really sound like a reaper, femshep, or broshep. It could be Harbinger I GUESS.

Thank you.
I am not sure, it could sound like a softened voice of Harbinger. Or just an echoe sound.

Whoa whoa whoat!!! I just caught something (smug face) if you watch as Shepard starts shooting at the tube the sound of the shots switches from the carnifax to the predator! Did anyone notice that?!

This plays into my theory that the decision chamber is an overlay of the the conduit run, what is happening in real life is happening in super slow mo in the decision chamber. The starchild gives Shepard the option of destroy, but its not the option to destroy reapers... (remember in the decision chamber you are seeing through reaper goggles) but to destroy Shepard. The tube exploding is Harbinger's beam. The carnifax switching from the predator is the illusion breaking.

But, under this logic. Wouldn't synthesis and control still be indoctrination? This would make rejection the real ending when it seemed agreed upon that it was really just Shepard giving up. This still would not explain the breath only being in the Destroy ending.

Symbolism, even though Shepard is heading towards the laser he is still fighting indoctrination. He's shooting at glass fighting his way out of the dream (Matriach Benezia said fighting indoctrination was like shooting at glass). In refuse Shepard is like "I know this is an illusion so I'm not cooperating" but it's not just an illusion, its all happening in slow time.

edit: I meant Benezia said it was like pounding on glass, my bad.

I think I get what you're saying. You mean that Harbinger beings to shoot at Shepard, then the dream starts, then you pick destroy and break off indoctrination, then Harbinger's beam hits you, then you wake up? It was just confusing when you said that the Destroy option is Shepard choosing to destroy him/herself.

[smokingotter1]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

I want to hear it too. I am too lazy to search on YT now. Feed my laziness.

As I said before. It doesn't really sound like a reaper, femshep, or broshep. It could be Harbinger I GUESS.

Thank you.
I am not sure, it could sound like a softened voice of Harbinger. Or just an echoe sound.

Whoa whoa whoat!!! I just caught something (smug face) if you watch as Shepard starts shooting at the tube the sound of the shots switches from the carnifax to the predator! Did anyone notice that?!

This plays into my theory that the decision chamber is an overlay of the the conduit run, what is happening in real life is happening in super slow mo in the decision chamber. The starchild gives Shepard the option of destroy, but its not the option to destroy reapers... (remember in the decision chamber you are seeing through reaper goggles) but to destroy Shepard. The tube exploding is Harbinger's beam. The carnifax switching from the predator is the illusion breaking.

But, under this logic. Wouldn't synthesis and control still be indoctrination? This would make rejection the real ending when it seemed agreed upon that it was really just Shepard giving up. This still would not explain the breath only being in the Destroy ending.

Symbolism, even though Shepard is heading towards the laser he is still fighting indoctrination. He's shooting at glass fighting his way out of the dream (Matriach Benezia said fighting indoctrination was like shooting at glass). In refuse Shepard is like "I know this is an illusion so I'm not cooperating" but it's not just an illusion, its all happening in slow time.

edit: I meant Benezia said it was like pounding on glass, my bad.

I think I get what you're saying. You mean that Harbinger beings to shoot at Shepard, then the dream starts, then you pick destroy and break off indoctrination, then Harbinger's beam hits you, then you wake up? It was just confusing when you said that the Destroy option is Shepard choosing to destroy him/herself.

BW changed the layout to be more obvious, here is my layout as evidence-


When Shepard chooses destroy he heads towards the overturned Mako, beam hits mako at same time Shepard shoots at tube, mako explodes Shepard wakes up. Where Shepard is standing now there is no cover (refuse-black square, instant death.)

Modifié par smokingotter1, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:26 .

[UltimateTobi]

Anyways. I am off to sleep now. Cya later and take speculations

[gunslinger_ruiz]

"Mass Effect: Past, Present and Future" panel is from 5-6pm today, supposing PST since it's in San Diego so in about 30 minutes. Trying to find a live stream but will settle for IGN uploading the good bits to youtube. Hoping to see some DLC release dates/plan outlined but we'll have to wait and see.

[Chriz Tah Fah]

I'm gonna be some games now (probably some ME MP too). If anyone wants to play feel free to add me, my origin is Chriz_Tah_Fah

Edit: Wow, I'm getting top of the page a lot lately.

Modifié par Chriz Tah Fah, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:35 .

[Dwailing]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

I'm gonna be some games now (probably some ME MP too). If anyone wants to play feel free to add me, my origin is Chriz_Tah_Fah

Edit: Wow, I'm getting top of the page a lot lately.

I just sent you a friend request.  My Origin account name is threerocks.