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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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v0rt3x22 wrote...

So after the Comic Con Panel - what are your thoughts on IT?

The discussion (live feed) was much worse than that at PAX. Maybe a video upload will clarify things. IT? BioWare seems persistent in seemingly denying it.

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paxxton wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

So after the Comic Con Panel - what are your thoughts on IT?

The discussion (live feed) was much worse than that at PAX. Maybe a video upload will clarify things. IT? BioWare seems persistent in seemingly denying it.


They are neither confirming nor denying IT.

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Seriously - I'm one of the few who still had hope for IT at this point - but hearing BioWare ramble on about how much research was invested into getting the ending right - in terms of how the different endings would affect civilizations - and not addressing IT at Comic Con - is really starting to cause me to doubt.

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v0rt3x22 wrote...

So after the Comic Con Panel - what are your thoughts on IT?


Panel didn't really say anything pro or con. No real new information. Except that Atlas's are waterproof :lol:

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Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

So after the Comic Con Panel - what are your thoughts on IT?

The discussion (live feed) was much worse than that at PAX. Maybe a video upload will clarify things. IT? BioWare seems persistent in seemingly denying it.


They are neither confirming nor denying IT.

Technically, they don't, but those answers....I have no words to describe them.

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v0rt3x22 wrote...

Seriously - I'm one of the few who still had hope for IT at this point - but hearing BioWare ramble on about how much research was invested into getting the ending right - in terms of how the different endings would affect civilizations - and not addressing IT at Comic Con - is really starting to cause me to doubt.


I think I'm taking it easier then some as I'm not really expecting any kind of answer to it for a year or more. I just want to see the dang trailer at the end of the panel soon :pinched:

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paxxton wrote...

Technically, they don't, but those answers....I have no words to describe them.


It is not a thing you can comprehend.

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Dwailing wrote...

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I dismiss pretty much the majority of ME3 as bad writing, even when it does support the literal interpretation of the story. That's because the story just isn't that great, no matter how you choose to interpretate it.


The story kicks butt.  That is all.


If that's how you feel than more power too you. Sadly for me I can only see how shit the writing in ME3 really is.

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Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

I dismiss pretty much the majority of ME3 as bad writing, even when it does support the literal interpretation of the story. That's because the story just isn't that great, no matter how you choose to interpretate it.


The story kicks butt.  That is all.


If that's how you feel than more power too you. Sadly for me I can only see how shit the writing in ME3 really is.


Isnt one of the main reasons you dislike the story the fact that you cant side with TIM and preach the virtues of control throughout the entire game, or am I thinking of someone else?

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byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Technically, they don't, but those answers....I have no words to describe them.


It is not a thing you can comprehend.

More speculation needed. Some of the answers weren't definite statements.

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Hey guys, just look at this as an opportunity to make our voices heard even louder.
They want the ending to their game to have many different interpretations. They seriously don't know what to do with the breathing scene. ME 3 can be a game where both the literal interpretation and the IT can be true depending on which ending you prefer.
Literal- Control/Synthesis lovers
IT- Destroy/Refuse lovers
If BW is ever going to come out with Post-ending DLC, then let's help them figure out what to do with it through the IT.
Just a suggestion.

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There is only one thing to do now...get wasted and play Starcraft.

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What about All Endings Lovers?

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I support IT through Control. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 15 juillet 2012 - 01:34 .


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paxxton wrote...

What about All Endings Lovers?


I dont see how any of those could exist.

Loving refuse is based on hating the other three.

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Lol IT is not even a thought in the back of their minds anymore. Let it go.

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paxxton wrote...

What about All Endings Lovers?

 Well, that's the beauty of it.
There can be an IT DLC that we ITers can pay for.
All endings lovers who like the literal interpretation can choose to buy it as well, so they can enjoy it too, yet still hold to their favorite cannon.Posted Image

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shepdog77 wrote...

Lol IT is not even a thought in the back of their minds anymore. Let it go.


Oh, Miss al-Jilani, you and your snide insinuations. :D

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An "underwater Atlas Mech" they said? Really wish someone woulda capped that. Hm, well hopefully when Bioware ups the Earth MP DLC trailer they'll put that one up too.

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byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

What about All Endings Lovers?


I dont see how any of those could exist.

Loving refuse is based on hating the other three.

Yeah, but all endings were nice to watch. Posted Image

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byne wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

Lol IT is not even a thought in the back of their minds anymore. Let it go.


Oh, Miss al-Jilani, you and your snide insinuations. :D


I'm tired of your disingenuous assertions about my snide insinuations. :kissing:

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shepdog77 wrote...

byne wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

Lol IT is not even a thought in the back of their minds anymore. Let it go.


Oh, Miss al-Jilani, you and your snide insinuations. :D


I'm tired of your disingenuous assertions about my snide insinuations. :kissing:


Well, I'd say something about tabloid journalism, but it doesnt really fit here.

As long as we're both on the same page. ;)

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byne wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

byne wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

Lol IT is not even a thought in the back of their minds anymore. Let it go.


Oh, Miss al-Jilani, you and your snide insinuations. :D


I'm tired of your disingenuous assertions about my snide insinuations. :kissing:


Well, I'd say something about tabloid journalism, but it doesnt really fit here.

As long as we're both on the same page. ;)


Tabloid Journalism Weekly:  "This just in; byne makes disingenuous assertions about shepdog77's snide accusations!"

There, does that work? :wizard:

Modifié par shepdog77, 15 juillet 2012 - 01:43 .


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I take it the Q&A left us with MOAR questions and less answers? :P

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byne wrote...

Isnt one of the main reasons you dislike the story the fact that you cant side with TIM and preach the virtues of control throughout the entire game, or am I thinking of someone else?


Sounds more like my mate Seboist.

The fact that we get railroaded into fighting Cerberus and fighting against TIM's ideals (only to figure out at the end that TIM was right after all and then you can finally decide to pick Control, DERP!) is indeed one of the reasons why I think the story is crap, but not at all the most pressing reason.


A quick and small list why I think the writing is crap:

- The committee is a joke.
- "We fight or we die, that's the plan!" Really Shepard? REALLY?
- The vent kid feels forced and it's just lame.
- The nightmares about the vent kid feel forced and are retarded.
- Cerberus' douchebaggery. They went from a morally ambiguous splintercell group to standard cliche cannon fodder. 
- The Crucible McGuffin.
- ME2 is pointless, nothing we did in ME2 matters for the main plot.
- Shallow and retarded politics (BioWare should watch and learn from The Witcher 2).
- The Citadel coup is a joke.
- Udina and his silly motivation for the coup is a joke.
- Cerberus became a joke after the coup.
- Kai Leng is a joke.
- The Illusive Man became a joke (while he was such an awesome character in ME2).
- The huge "WTF is the Citadel doing above Earth?" moment with no explanation at all.
- The HUGE Deus Ex Machina we all know as the Catalyst (WTF was BioWare thinking?).
- The Reapers motivation is retarded and just plain terrible.
- Synthesis space-magic.
- "Lots of speculation from everyone!" HERRRDERP!

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 15 juillet 2012 - 01:50 .