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[KJSync]

DrTsoni wrote...

So, it's been...way too long since I've had a chance to get online. Anything interesting happen? Did I miss anything at SDCC?

You missed more comics,female turians and a tutorial about how to become a BW employee

[Chriz Tah Fah]

FreddyCast wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Cecilia L wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Alright, then I'd like to talk about the nature of the Crucible. As we all know, the Crucible is a power source as the Godbrat says. Yet, we also know from Vendetta that the Catalyst was not originally part of the Crucible plans, but was incorporated in order to have enough juice to effect throughout the galaxy. So what was the Crucible's true purpose if it is only a power source and needs the Citadel in order to work. I believe, as all ITers do that the Godbrat is lying to us when it says that the Crucible is nothing more than a power source.
We do not know what the Crucible truly does if what Shep experienced was just a hallucination.
Therefore, if we are to have a new ending, we should throw around ideas as to what the Crucible actually does.
Maybe it is aa Indoctrination canceller device as well as an EMP Superweapon that affects only the Reapers. Or maybe as someone else suggested, a time traveling machine that pulls in armadas of ships from all 20,000 past cycles to all Mass Relay locations which can outnumber the Reapers themselves (and by doing so, conventional warfare can be achieved). Crazy, Crazy Awesome.
What do you guys think the Crucible actually does?

1) Hoping we might find alternative to catalyst?

2)I would say Indoctrination canceller device, that would mean incredibly much for the war. If this is the case, still strange that a imagined conversation with the catalyst is necessary.

EDIT: Unless, as previous post suggests, it's a trap that's been left by the reapers. It has always bothered me how convenient the whole thing is. Shepard also has doubts as expressed in the conversation on Mars.

1.If what Shep experienced is a Hallucination then the Godbrat is not the Catalyst, and the Catalst is as Vendetta said, The Citadel.
2. Conversation with the Godbrat is necessary as the final mental battle against Indoctrination. Still, for the Crucible to just be an indoctrination canceller device is not enough to defeat the Reapers as a whole.

Maybe the crucible destroys the reaper consensus and they all become seperated and not know what to do. They would lose their guidence (and IFF) and maybe start shooting at eachother? That would be enough to do it.

Now that is interesting, yet do the Reapers actually funtion as a consensus like the Geth or are they independent as Sovereign says? Even EDI was pondering this same issue, yet Shep told her, "Do me a favor, don't tell me".

Lets assume for a second that the one thing starbrat (Harbinger) says is true. Harbinger is the "collective intelligence of the reapers." Destroying the starkid (lets say it's Harbinger's brain) with the crucible would destroy their intelligence and therefore achieve this. I don't think they have an actual consensus like the geth because then Leviathan wouldn't have been able to break off. However, if they just have a collective intelligence then they know exactly what every other reaper knows. Destroying this would make them not know friend from foe I guess. While writing this I thought of something interesting. If this is the case then Leviathan (should he join you) could tell you the reaper battle plan, what the crucible is for, and literally EVERYTHING.

[Cyberfrog81]

CoolioThane wrote...

"Hepler said it was just to tie Shepard's story personally to Earth and the feeling of not being able to save the child.
"

Bosh'tet.

That makes the child and the dreams every bit as infuriatingly stupid as anti-enders would have us believe.

I think I'll be going back to their ranks.

[Galenwolf]

elegolas1 wrote...

The mass effect panel at comic con does not bode well for an intended IT. To think that bioware would rather have the endings as they are.

Looks like they don't want mine and other peoples money either.

I'll know ive already told all my friends to stay clear of bioware products because dragon age 2 and mass effect 3.

[Turbo_J]

FreddyCast wrote...

Now that is interesting, yet do the Reapers actually funtion as a consensus like the Geth or are they independent as Sovereign says? Even EDI was pondering this same issue, yet Shep told her, "Do me a favor, don't tell me".

If you pay attention to dialog in ME1, ME2 and 3 from Sovereign and Legion you can more or less put together a plausible scenario that they are a gestalt intellect, each independent; as in each Reaper is independent, but they (the programs inside the Reapers) are not free.

Now this may be true for some of the original Reapers, as I suspect Indoctrination was not always utilized during the Harvesting of a cycle. It may have taken one or two cycles to come up with the method of creating willing slaves participants. The altered, but intact minds (through slow Indoctrination) could be AI'ed and added to the collective consciousness of a new Reaper.

I could elaborate more on this, but I'm supposed to be working on ME1, not writing a novella about how Reapers work. What does it matter. Our job is not to understand them, but to find a way to destroy them.

Modifié par Turbo_J, 15 juillet 2012 - 03:12 .

[Nightingale]

Brazukka wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

So, it's been...way too long since I've had a chance to get online. Anything interesting happen? Did I miss anything at SDCC?

You missed more comics,female turians and a tutorial about how to become a BW employee

Wait, wait...female turians? I think I may need some context for that one. Any links to...anything? And I take it we've heard nothing about Leviathan/anything pertaining to IT?

[Lokanaiya]

Will Bioware be speaking at another convention anytime soon? If so, we need to ask Bioware tougher, more specific questions. Questions like:

-Why is Renegade Shepard bothered by the kid, considering that by ME3 a full Renegade Shepard is almost straight-up evil? Why not make whether or not your Shepard has the dreams based on your reputation?
-Where does the breath scene take place? (I really don't expect an answer for this one, but it could be worth asking)
-How does Shepard not get incinerated by the explosion that happens when you choose Destroy? In the breath scene, his armor appears to be in the same state as it was before he chose.
-What is the in-universe reason for your EMS to determine whether you get the breath scene or not?
-Since you guys put so much thought and effort into the science of Mass Effect, how does Synthesis change everything into cyborgs?
-Why did you make a custom animation for reloading the Carnifex at the end, and why is the animation the same as reloading a Predator?
-At the end, why doesn't the explosion begin at the Charon relay? You had the chance to fix it in the EC, but you didn't.
-What are the odd black tendrils at the edge of the screen during the confrontation with TIM?
-How did the Reapers move the Citadel to Earth?
-Why do the child's and Shepard's voices echo in the decision chamber, when they didn't before the EC?
-Why does the Catalyst's voice have both male and female Shepards' voices under it?
-How does the Catalyst know the form and voice of the child that dies on Earth?

And soooo many more. Ask them questions that really can only be answered using IT. Questions that are extremely difficult to sidestep or evade. I have a lot more, but I think I won't post them here in case a dev reads them and comes up with extremely vague non-answers ahead of time.

[dreamgazer]

DrTsoni wrote...

Wait, wait...female turians? I think I may need some context for that one. Any links to...anything? And I take it we've heard nothing about Leviathan/anything pertaining to IT?

Two things: Shepard breath scene is "intentionally ambiguous", and there's "no canon ending".

[Nightingale]

dreamgazer wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

Wait, wait...female turians? I think I may need some context for that one. Any links to...anything? And I take it we've heard nothing about Leviathan/anything pertaining to IT?

Two things: Shepard breath scene is "intentionally ambiguous", and there's "no canon ending".

Well, that's nothing new...

[Chriz Tah Fah]

Does anyone want to speculate on when the starkid says "I am the collective intelligence of the reapers" (or something like that) would all reapers know what every other reaper knows? This being the case if Leviathan joins you wouldn't we know exactly what the real use of the crucible, the reaper battle plan etc. and then be able to give Shepard the best plan of action?

[masster blaster]

I think Bioware is hiding the true reason why the breath scene is there, because they did not say it was on the Citadel, nor on Earth. When the guy asked the question about the breath scene.

[FreddyCast]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Cecilia L wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Alright, then I'd like to talk about the nature of the Crucible. As we all know, the Crucible is a power source as the Godbrat says. Yet, we also know from Vendetta that the Catalyst was not originally part of the Crucible plans, but was incorporated in order to have enough juice to effect throughout the galaxy. So what was the Crucible's true purpose if it is only a power source and needs the Citadel in order to work. I believe, as all ITers do that the Godbrat is lying to us when it says that the Crucible is nothing more than a power source.
We do not know what the Crucible truly does if what Shep experienced was just a hallucination.
Therefore, if we are to have a new ending, we should throw around ideas as to what the Crucible actually does.
Maybe it is aa Indoctrination canceller device as well as an EMP Superweapon that affects only the Reapers. Or maybe as someone else suggested, a time traveling machine that pulls in armadas of ships from all 20,000 past cycles to all Mass Relay locations which can outnumber the Reapers themselves (and by doing so, conventional warfare can be achieved). Crazy, Crazy Awesome.
What do you guys think the Crucible actually does?

1) Hoping we might find alternative to catalyst?

2)I would say Indoctrination canceller device, that would mean incredibly much for the war. If this is the case, still strange that a imagined conversation with the catalyst is necessary.

EDIT: Unless, as previous post suggests, it's a trap that's been left by the reapers. It has always bothered me how convenient the whole thing is. Shepard also has doubts as expressed in the conversation on Mars.

1.If what Shep experienced is a Hallucination then the Godbrat is not the Catalyst, and the Catalst is as Vendetta said, The Citadel.
2. Conversation with the Godbrat is necessary as the final mental battle against Indoctrination. Still, for the Crucible to just be an indoctrination canceller device is not enough to defeat the Reapers as a whole.

Maybe the crucible destroys the reaper consensus and they all become seperated and not know what to do. They would lose their guidence (and IFF) and maybe start shooting at eachother? That would be enough to do it.

Now that is interesting, yet do the Reapers actually funtion as a consensus like the Geth or are they independent as Sovereign says? Even EDI was pondering this same issue, yet Shep told her, "Do me a favor, don't tell me".

Lets assume for a second that the one thing starbrat (Harbinger) says is true. Harbinger is the "collective intelligence of the reapers." Destroying the starkid (lets say it's Harbinger's brain) with the crucible would destroy their intelligence and therefore achieve this. I don't think they have an actual consensus like the geth because then Leviathan wouldn't have been able to break off. However, if they just have a collective intelligence then they know exactly what every other reaper knows. Destroying this would make them not know friend from foe I guess. While writing this I thought of something interesting. If this is the case then Leviathan (should he join you) could tell you the reaper battle plan, what the crucible is for, and literally EVERYTHING.

First, in my opinion, I don't believe the Godbrat is Harbinger, however, I do believe it to be the leader of the Reapers, with Harbinger as its General. Godbrat says that he embodies the collective intelligence of the Reapers, not that he is the source of their intelligence. I also don't think they function like the Geth do, but even among the Geth, they can break away and even fight against each other, like the Heretics. And whatever the Leviathan reveals to us, it will be of great importance to our victory against the Reapers, although I don't know if he knows everything the Reapers as a whole know.

[Chriz Tah Fah]

masster blaster wrote...

I think Bioware is hiding the true reason why the breath scene is there, because they did not say it was on the Citadel, nor on Earth. When the guy asked the question about the breath scene.

I think on twitter somewhere they said that it was on the Citadel. Yet everything about the scenery says its on London.

[CoolioThane]

Get in!

Me, Banshee, Uranium and JGibson just all survived on Reaper Gold xD Awesome fun!

[masster blaster]

You know we need a sumit of ITers non Iters trolls and everyone that believes the endings are bull, yet good to unite as one and ask Bioware strait up who is right. And we all need to pull our heads together and come up with back counters to recounter Biowares un logical interpitaion on the endings and when Shepard get's hit by Harbys beam.

Oh and not saying Bioware are not clever, but it's time to stop playing the mind game and end Shepard once and for all.

[masster blaster]

Chris if it is then. To hell with Bioware. I mean it's clearly on Earth, since there is no Concret on the Citadel. Plus CONCRET HAVE METAL BARS IN THEM. Also the scene looks nothing like the Citadel. I don't think that was a bioware person, but I could be wrong. Like please.

[Chriz Tah Fah]

masster blaster wrote...

Chris if it is then. To hell with Bioware. I mean it's clearly on Earth, since there is no Concret on the Citadel. Plus CONCRET HAVE METAL BARS IN THEM. Also the scene looks nothing like the Citadel. I don't think that was a bioware person, but I could be wrong. Like please.

I would have originally posted the link if I had it. I just remember hearing it in a video on youtube, Clevernoob maybe?

[masster blaster]

It's quiet now. Like everyone in the world droped dead.

[Dam0299]

Imagine if the crucible could allow the reapers to instantly indoctrinate everyone in the galaxy into beliveing that Shepard is controlling the reapers? O.o

[masster blaster]

Dam hence why in Synthesis everyone is in rainbow kitty heave, where there are no wars, and people not dying anymore.

[masster blaster]

Still quiet. Maybe we need a joker joke.

So what does a Turian do when he runs out of ammo?

[EpyonX3]

I read the trailer they show at the end of the panel is of an Atlas under water? Leviathan?

[Dam0299]

masster blaster wrote...

Still quiet. Maybe we need a joker joke.

So what does a Turian do when he runs out of ammo?

He switches to the stick up his A** as a back up weapon.

[masster blaster]

Epyon I think everyone is taking a breather right now, but maybe, but Shepard was like the hulk what he did to the Atlas.

[EpyonX3]

masster blaster wrote...

Epyon I think everyone is taking a breather right now, but maybe, but Shepard was like the hulk what he did to the Atlas.

I didn't see the trailer yet, so I'm not sure.