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#46601
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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

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Yeah, I was there. The panel pretty much sucked. I was trying to ask a question about if they had a special interpretation in mind for the endings, but I wasn't picked, unfortunately.


Cool that you got to be there in person anyway. The live script feed said someone fell when getting up to answer questions and someone joked that could have been you ^_^

Really wish someone would've said "I'm a little confused by the 'Shepard Alive' bonus scene, it looks like Shepard is in a pile of London rubble, is that true?"

 

Well, it could have been if the person was wearing in N& hoodie with the name "estebanus" written in big blue letters with a paragon symbol on the back!

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Rosewind wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Yeah, I was there. The panel pretty much sucked. I was trying to ask a question about if they had a special interpretation in mind for the endings, but I wasn't picked, unfortunately. 

But, it was pretty intesresting what they said about the breath scene. One said that it was meant to be ambiguous, while another one said that it could have been Shepard's dying breath.


*Grabs her Monocle* I smell a conspiracy, maybe they knew who your are and wanted to avoid you asking a tough question......

Damn! I knew I shouldn't have worn that damn hoodie!

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estebanus wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Yeah, I was there. The panel pretty much sucked. I was trying to ask a question about if they had a special interpretation in mind for the endings, but I wasn't picked, unfortunately.


Cool that you got to be there in person anyway. The live script feed said someone fell when getting up to answer questions and someone joked that could have been you ^_^

Really wish someone would've said "I'm a little confused by the 'Shepard Alive' bonus scene, it looks like Shepard is in a pile of London rubble, is that true?"

 

Well, it could have been if the person was wearing in N& hoodie with the name "estebanus" written in big blue letters with a paragon symbol on the back!


Oh you goodie two shoes..... I can't talk I play a Paragade...

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Not one juicy tid-bit from Comic-con, not one ambigous "Stay tuned, we're plotting something" sort of response? I am disappoint.

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estebanus wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Yeah, I was there. The panel pretty much sucked. I was trying to ask a question about if they had a special interpretation in mind for the endings, but I wasn't picked, unfortunately.


Cool that you got to be there in person anyway. The live script feed said someone fell when getting up to answer questions and someone joked that could have been you ^_^

Really wish someone would've said "I'm a little confused by the 'Shepard Alive' bonus scene, it looks like Shepard is in a pile of London rubble, is that true?"



Well, it could have been if the person was wearing in N& hoodie with the name "estebanus" written in big blue letters with a paragon symbol on the back!


:lol: Nice. It wasn't a live video feed though, someone was transcribing for us at home, so wouldn't know.

But hm, if they saw the name on your hoodie and here..... Maybe Roswind's conspiracy isn't too far fetched.

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leonia42 wrote...

Not one juicy tid-bit from Comic-con, not one ambigous "Stay tuned, we're plotting something" sort of response? I am disappoint.


Wasn't expecting much, but we've had that sort of response since the first days of the backlash. "If you knew what we were planning, well save your files forever" [paraphrasing]

Although, I was hoping for the Leviathan DLC trailer. A real one, not a teaser.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

estebanus wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Yeah, I was there. The panel pretty much sucked. I was trying to ask a question about if they had a special interpretation in mind for the endings, but I wasn't picked, unfortunately.


Cool that you got to be there in person anyway. The live script feed said someone fell when getting up to answer questions and someone joked that could have been you ^_^

Really wish someone would've said "I'm a little confused by the 'Shepard Alive' bonus scene, it looks like Shepard is in a pile of London rubble, is that true?"



Well, it could have been if the person was wearing in N& hoodie with the name "estebanus" written in big blue letters with a paragon symbol on the back!


:lol: Nice. It wasn't a live video feed though, someone was transcribing for us at home, so wouldn't know.

But hm, if they saw the name on your hoodie and here..... Maybe Roswind's conspiracy isn't too far fetched.


Lol was meant to be a joke but hell women are ALWAYS! right .....

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Yeah, was at least expecting something definite on Leviathan, they're still playing their cards too close to their chest. Damn their poker faces!

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So neither dead, nor confirmed, nor anything particularly interesting, not even a "wink wink" then?

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Arian Dynas wrote...

So neither dead, nor confirmed, nor anything particularly interesting, not even a "wink wink" then?


*Wink Wink* Happy?

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Don't worry fellas... smokingotter here with a plan. We buy EA stock until we gain a 51% shareholder value and then demand a final answer on IT. We can win this.

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smokingotter1 wrote...

Don't worry fellas... smokingotter here with a plan. We buy EA stock until we gain a 51% shareholder value and then demand a final answer on IT. We can win this.


If we do that we can demand a hell of lot more then that lol.....

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

estebanus wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Yeah, I was there. The panel pretty much sucked. I was trying to ask a question about if they had a special interpretation in mind for the endings, but I wasn't picked, unfortunately.


Cool that you got to be there in person anyway. The live script feed said someone fell when getting up to answer questions and someone joked that could have been you ^_^

Really wish someone would've said "I'm a little confused by the 'Shepard Alive' bonus scene, it looks like Shepard is in a pile of London rubble, is that true?"



Well, it could have been if the person was wearing in N& hoodie with the name "estebanus" written in big blue letters with a paragon symbol on the back!


:lol: Nice. It wasn't a live video feed though, someone was transcribing for us at home, so wouldn't know.

But hm, if they saw the name on your hoodie and here..... Maybe Roswind's conspiracy isn't too far fetched.

Gamble: "Damn! That estebanus guy is one of those that understood what we did! We can't pick him! He'll just ask a question that we can't possibly answer!" 

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Rosewind wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

So neither dead, nor confirmed, nor anything particularly interesting, not even a "wink wink" then?


*Wink Wink* Happy?

You're always so thoughtful, Rose!

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estebanus wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

So neither dead, nor confirmed, nor anything particularly interesting, not even a "wink wink" then?


*Wink Wink* Happy?

You're always so thoughtful, Rose!


LIES! All of it LIES!

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Interesting and ending relevant bits from the SDCC ME3 panel, from the live feed here: www.newsarama.com/games/sdcc-2012-mass-effect-past-present-future.html
My comments are preceeded by //

Regarding EC:
  • "So first of all talking about the Extended cut" they showed a flow chart of the original ending, then of the extended cut. The extended cut literally quadruples the level of complication behind the scenes. //Honestly, any multiple increase in complexity of the original endings isn't saying much. :pinched:
  • "Myself, Casey Hudson, Mac Walters, Patrick  Weeks, MIke Gamble sat in a room and hashed it out" when it was greenlit in late March.
Regarding the timeline of the EC epilogue:
  • "I want to walk you through what we wanted to do with the Epilogue sequence 200-300 years in the future"
  • "After the detonation, what does the Galaxy look like days after. There's a sense of a tentative  truce in the Synthesis version, and kind of going home."
  • "Then we have months to years, and that's Survivors, so it's about your ME2 henchmen, the tertiary characters and closing those off"
  • "After that we went to years to decades" //they talk about Krogan babies and the genophage
  • "After that we went into centuries, two hundred three hundred years. We got to do some really cool design work on that stuff.
  • "After the distant future we had the sacrifice section with anyone who's died along the way. Then we have "But for Now which is the memorial sequence."
  • "They wanted to project that feeling that your story with Shepard will end into their performances. You get some really nice subtle acting in that, from James to Edi to your love interest." //Seems like "they" refers to the animators from the previous post ("This was the scene all the animators wanted to be on.")
  • "The EC was a labor of love to us, we're really happy that we got to do it"
Regarding Earth MP DLC (just the parts giving us an idea about the timeline in relation to the story):
  • They're showing the launch trailer for the first time now. It's all about "keeping what's left of Earth free, or die trying.
  • "Today, each of you must become more than a soldier. Until the fleets of Earth return, you are the last line of defense." //I think this is a quote from the trailer?
Regarding MP DLC or just DLC in general, not sure:
  • Gamble said "If you keep playing we'll just keep making it, it's that simple."
Interesting bits about the writing process:
  • "We have this room for the Mass Effect team that's just the writer's pit, and we would just turn around and read off parts to each other"
  • Chris said "There's a part where Edi says "Liara's become a really more private person since she became Shadow Broker" and if you haven't played the SB DLC, Shepard goes, "Excuse me?!" And that was something that wouldn't have happened if we weren't all writing in one room."
  • "So I was freaking out that it was terrible, and Mac came in and told me I needed to cut a whole section of dialogue. I kissed him, and turne dit into a joke." //This was after certain dialogue was recorded for EDI
Fan Q&A (apparently they were tripping and falling over each other):
  • Q: Will you ever show female Turians in any of the DLC or anything?
  • A: Gamble, "That's not the first time we've been asked that, and we definitely take fan feedback to heart."
  • The panel said there's absolutely "no canon ending"
  • Q: What's the deal with the kid and Shepard seeing him through the whole game?
  • A: Hepler said it was just to tie Shepard's story personally to Earth and the feeling of not being able to save the child.
  • Q: What's the motivation with the teaser survival of Shepard in one ending?
    A1: Sylvia said "We were looking at all the endings, and we were wondering if they were TOO bleak. For fans who scraped every last thing off the galaxy map, we wanted to give them a little beacon of hope."
    A2: "It was really hard to let go of Shepard for us too, so it was kinda just for us too."
    A3: Ley said "We did make it ambiguous on purpose..." Hepler: "It could just be a last gasp before death, yeah." //because that's not bleak... right? :?
Their "little something to share", the attendees are told to look at a screen:
  • It's a teaser for future content... and it is underwater somewhere in a vehicle that looks a lot like an Atlas.
And a comment from the Newsarama Editor who posted the live stream summary:
  • That's all for this panel folks! Again, I'll be taking your questions over to BioWare RIGHT NOW and have an article up answering as many as possible soon! Thanks so much for reading! //So we may get more Q&A soon
Enjoy the speculations ^_^

Edited for formatting.

Modifié par Starbuck8, 15 juillet 2012 - 06:22 .


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Arian Dynas wrote...

So neither dead, nor confirmed, nor anything particularly interesting, not even a "wink wink" then?


The only interesting part related to IT was the Shepard Alive question and the answer(s) given. Which was more wierd than interesting.

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Rosewind wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

So neither dead, nor confirmed, nor anything particularly interesting, not even a "wink wink" then?


*Wink Wink* Happy?

You're always so thoughtful, Rose!


LIES! All of it LIES!

How dare you slander my name!  My, I will consult this with sir Reginald of Canterbury, and you can be sure to see a very interesting conduct on your slander in the newspaper! 

Brace yourself my lady, for only few can withstand the fury of estebanus!

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Heh, I actually got an apology from an EA support advisor because the previous one didn't even know what game I was playing. That's...kind of funny, and nice.

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Rosewind wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Yeah, I was there. The panel pretty much sucked. I was trying to ask a question about if they had a special interpretation in mind for the endings, but I wasn't picked, unfortunately. 

But, it was pretty intesresting what they said about the breath scene. One said that it was meant to be ambiguous, while another one said that it could have been Shepard's dying breath.


*Grabs her Monocle* I smell a conspiracy, maybe they knew who your are and wanted to avoid you asking a tough question......



Of course they would never knowingly pick an IT spy to ask questions!

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estebanus wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

So neither dead, nor confirmed, nor anything particularly interesting, not even a "wink wink" then?


*Wink Wink* Happy?

You're always so thoughtful, Rose!


LIES! All of it LIES!

How dare you slander my name!  My, I will consult this with sir Reginald of Canterbury, and you can be sure to see a very interesting conduct on your slander in the newspaper! 

Brace yourself my lady, for only few can withstand the fury of estebanus!


Gasp How dare you Sir, you will be hearing from the Queen for this she a personal friend I'll have you know!

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Andromidius wrote...

Heh, I actually got an apology from an EA support advisor because the previous one didn't even know what game I was playing. That's...kind of funny, and nice.

My my! What an olive branch to see these days!

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Andromidius wrote...

Heh, I actually got an apology from an EA support advisor because the previous one didn't even know what game I was playing. That's...kind of funny, and nice.


Well thats good but does it solve your problem?

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estebanus wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Heh, I actually got an apology from an EA support advisor because the previous one didn't even know what game I was playing. That's...kind of funny, and nice.

My my! What an olive branch to see these days!


Indeed!  Though I'm too tired to follow the advice given right now.

...and I didn't have a single disconnect all night, despite playing with a rather rawdy Aussie (the host) and a slightly drunk German.

Edit:  And no, I've not fixed the problem yet.  But I will, when my brain stops pouring out of my ears.

Modifié par Andromidius, 15 juillet 2012 - 06:25 .


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Rosewind wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

So neither dead, nor confirmed, nor anything particularly interesting, not even a "wink wink" then?


*Wink Wink* Happy?

You're always so thoughtful, Rose!


LIES! All of it LIES!

How dare you slander my name!  My, I will consult this with sir Reginald of Canterbury, and you can be sure to see a very interesting conduct on your slander in the newspaper! 

Brace yourself my lady, for only few can withstand the fury of estebanus!


Gasp How dare you Sir, you will be hearing from the Queen for this she a personal friend I'll have you know!

How dare you! Why, I wasn't planning on using my full connections, but now, you have awakened the dragon! I will consult about this with the queen of Denmark, and she will broadast on the TV what an honourless lady you are! 

*puts on top hate and gets cane* 

I will make sure that your good name will be disgraced!