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[estebanus]

Let's see what this has evolved into in the morning.

Goodnight!

[Cyberfrog81]

I don't get why they bring attention to ambiguous scenes. "Lots of speculations from everyone" didn't go over well. One would hope they'd caught on to that by now.

In some sense it was bold, in another... (Anderson:)Argh, this is a goddamn mess.

Next time, maybe they won't go for anything fancy. It's too stressful.

[masster blaster]

So far guys it's going great I got a few people that like what I am doing. So ya.

[UltimateTobi]

Cyberfrog81 wrote...

I don't get why they bring attention to ambiguous scenes. "Lots of speculations from everyone" didn't go over well. One would hope they'd caught on to that by now.

In some sense it was bold, in another... (Anderson:)Argh, this is a goddamn mess.

Next time, maybe they won't go for anything fancy. It's too stressful.

If it would've worked out like they thought (in IT-regards), it wouldn't haven been stressful and everybody would've got the ending.
I think they thought that every player paid enough attention to the lore and side-info, to see similarities to Indoc. in the ending.
Well, I count to the players who appearantly didn't pay enough attention, because I didn't notice it, and thought the ending was a big mess.
After reading Parabolee's blog, and watching Indoctrination Theory - A Documentary I saw the little hints, carefully placed; not too obvious, but noticable if you pay attention. I felt dumb TBH.

(Just talking in IT regards here!)

[Starbuck8]

UltimateTobi wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Try telling that to him.

You know what? I will. 

PM time!

Unless he will see my post before hand. If so, never mind...

I think he's mad at us, so he may not be back for a while. Be nice to him

Are you talking about masster here? Just curious.

Besides that, I always expected someone with such grammar, that he uses some degree of vulgarity. Though I didn't see him insulting anyone. Even when someone directly critisized him off-topic. (I.e. his grammar/way of writing.) If you get my meaning here.

Yes, we're talking about masster. And he's a smart kid, just has trouble with spelling/grammar, especially when he tries to post on his phone.

[SubAstris]

"Literalist" is just such an inaccurate term for most people, in fact for everyone who happen not to agree with IT. I think "non-ITer" is better but then it gives the impression that everything revolves IT or that most people even think it's a good idea. Any thoughts on a new name?

[RavenEyry]

SubAstris wrote...

"Literalist" is just such an inaccurate term for most people, in fact for everyone who happen not to agree with IT. I think "non-ITer" is better but then it gives the impression that everything revolves IT or that most people even think it's a good idea. Any thoughts on a new name?

What's wrong with 'literalist'?

[niravital]

 So... a red Atlas underwater?



What the heck BW?
This is the "big announcement" you give us?
a picture?
of... nothing?

this "lots of speculation" strategy is getting old.

[Dam0299]

niravital wrote...

 So... a red Atlas underwater?


What the heck BW?
This is the "big announcement" you give us?
a picture?
of... nothing?

this "lots of speculation" strategy is getting old.

I see they are adding underwater combat to the game .

[SubAstris]

RavenEyry wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

"Literalist" is just such an inaccurate term for most people, in fact for everyone who happen not to agree with IT. I think "non-ITer" is better but then it gives the impression that everything revolves IT or that most people even think it's a good idea. Any thoughts on a new name?

What's wrong with 'literalist'?

As I have said it is inaccurate, no-one who doesn't think IT is/was the case believes in a completely literal intrepretation of ME

[lex0r11]

HagarIshay wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Try telling that to him.

You know what? I will. 

PM time!

Unless he will see my post before hand. If so, never mind...

Good looking Shepard you got there.





Forgive my off-topic spree, guys.

[Ageless Face]

SubAstris wrote...
As I have said it is inaccurate, no-one who doesn't think IT is/was the case believes in a completely literal intrepretation of ME

Actually I believe the literal interpretation. So not no one.

lex0r11 wrote...

Good looking Shepard you got there. 

*snip*

Forgive my off-topic spree, guys.

 


Thanks I like her too.

Modifié par HagarIshay, 15 juillet 2012 - 10:16 .

[DJBare]

"Unite BSN"?, *spits drink*; good luck with that, while I try to remain polite I've basically given up trying to pass that along as an example, but I do find heading to Skyrim and removing some heads helps me to maintain my own calm on these forums.

[RavenEyry]

DJBare wrote...

"Unite BSN"?, *spits drink*; good luck with that, while I try to remain polite I've basically given up trying to pass that along as an example, but I do find heading to Skyrim and removing some heads helps me to maintain my own calm on these forums.

S'alright. Most people remain polite. The jerks are just better at drawing attention to themselves.

[masster blaster]

I can try.

[SubAstris]

[quote]HagarIshay wrote...

[quote]SubAstris wrote...
As I have said it is inaccurate, no-one who doesn't think IT is/was the case believes in a completely literal intrepretation of ME

[/quote]

So presumably you believe that the scenes in the forest where there are shadows and whispers and the same kid from Earth who has died by this point burning in the flames, that all literally happened, yes?

[RavenEyry]

SubAstris wrote...
So presumably you believe that the scenes in the forest where there are shadows and whispers and the same kid from Earth who has died by this point burning in the flames, that all literally happened, yes?

Well now you're being needlessly obtuse, of course they didn't mean that.

[Ageless Face]

SubAstris wrote...

So presumably you believe that the scenes in the forest where there are shadows and whispers and the same kid from Earth who has died by this point burning in the flames, that all literally happened, yes?

Those were dreams... So no?

[SubAstris]

RavenEyry wrote...

SubAstris wrote...
So presumably you believe that the scenes in the forest where there are shadows and whispers and the same kid from Earth who has died by this point burning in the flames, that all literally happened, yes?

Well now you're being needlessly obtuse, of course they didn't mean that.

But I'm not, you've just proved my point. Not everything is clearly meant to be taken literally in the game IT or not, hence why the term "literalist" is not accurate

[SubAstris]

HagarIshay wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

So presumably you believe that the scenes in the forest where there are shadows and whispers and the same kid from Earth who has died by this point burning in the flames, that all literally happened, yes?

Those were dreams... So no?

Which means they didn't literally happen, yes?

[RavenEyry]

SubAstris wrote...

But I'm not, you've just proved my point. Not everything is clearly meant to be taken literally in the game IT or not, hence why the term "literalist" is not accurate

It is possible to literally think they were literally dreams.

[UltimateTobi]

RavenEyry wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

But I'm not, you've just proved my point. Not everything is clearly meant to be taken literally in the game IT or not, hence why the term "literalist" is not accurate

It is possible to literally think they were literally dreams.

Yes, this.
The difference between "This is just a dream." (literally taking) and "This is the result of being in the process of Indoc." (IT interpretation.)

[Edorian27]

I just replayed the ending with the EC. Can someone point me to a thread/post were the effects of EC where discussed in light of IT?

I think IT and EC don't go together.

1) Why would there be a scene with Hackett stating that someone made it to the citadel? It is clearly nothing Shep would dream about.. so I have to take it for a fact.

2) Why would the catalyst care to explain what exactly he is, why the Reapers do this and that? With the new planted information given by the catalyst I find IT less likely.

3) What about the whole ending slideshow? It was easier to accept it as "Shepards Hopes" with the small part we got before, where his companions landed in a Paradise-like garden world being very symbolic. Now with the elaborate endings, it's hard to belive.

Adding to this, the rescue of Sheps team happened before the dream sequence, so the hope for them to survive gets less dreamlike.

So, if there is any (not too far fetched) explanation out there, would be nice if you could point me to it. (and no, I don't need explanations like = it's because IT is bull****)

[Ageless Face]

SubAstris wrote...
Which means they didn't literally happen, yes?

I meant the literal interpretation of the ending. I thought it was pretty clear...

Guess it wasn't.

And it's also pretty clear the is what the IT crowd means here. Only the ending.

Modifié par HagarIshay, 15 juillet 2012 - 10:36 .

[UltimateTobi]

Edorian27 wrote...

I just replayed the ending with the EC. Can someone point me to a thread/post were the effects of EC where discussed in light of IT?

I think IT and EC don't go together.

1) Why would there be a scene with Hackett stating that someone made it to the citadel? It is clearly nothing Shep would dream about.. so I have to take it for a fact.

2) Why would the catalyst care to explain what exactly he is, why the Reapers do this and that? With the new planted information given by the catalyst I find IT less likely.

3) What about the whole ending slideshow? It was easier to accept it as "Shepards Hopes" with the small part we got before, where his companions landed in a Paradise-like garden world being very symbolic. Now with the elaborate endings, it's hard to belive.

Adding to this, the rescue of Sheps team happened before the dream sequence, so the hope for them to survive gets less dreamlike.

So, if there is any (not too far fetched) explanation out there, would be nice if you could point me to it. (and no, I don't need explanations like = it's because IT is bull****)

You're in the state I was once. You lost faith. Give it some time, the wounds will heal and you soon believe in IT again.

I can't answer these questions now. I would just type mess down on this post.
But wait for Parabolee updating his blog and CleverNoob making his part 3 of the docu.