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[Chriz Tah Fah]

Emiya_Archer wrote...

There is no literal explanation for this:

The kid screaming, really Bioware!

Actually, I didn't notice this before. The sound sounded modded in that video so I went back and looked at my own walkthrough and it definitely is there. Donno what it means though.

[Either.Ardrey]

EpyonX3 wrote...

I don't play MP that much but all this talk about reaper gold is making want to try it. I'll probably go down in a round or two but anyone on PC want to try it with me?

I can give it a go today, I think. 
Origin ID: Either_Ardrey

[Either.Ardrey]

Emiya_Archer wrote...

There is no literal explanation for this:

The kid screaming, really Bioware!

At what time is the kid supposed to scream in the vid?

[HellishFiend]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...
Yup, and that is only the start. That video only scratches the surface. The thematic implications presented across the trilogy are staggering in scope and amount. Turbo and I are planning on making and releasing videos up until the reveal. Definitely no lack of material in that area. 

The sheer amount of quotes and incidents that support destroy or go against synthesis/control in the games really is amazing. I'm starting to think the ending options were foreshadowed after all, to the effect of 'choose this one'.

They are. Heavily so. The quotes and incidents are only part of it. There are many things that thematically suggest that Destroy is correct and that Synth/Control are wrong. Some as massive as Mordin/Legion's deaths, and some much more subtle than that. When you start to make all the connections, BW's writing ability starts to look even more impressive than it already did (prior to the literal endings, anyway). 

Someone really needs to do a list with all of them cause it is pretty extreme how many quotes support Destroy. I think the first IT docomentary had alot of them though.

And the only support and examples of Synthesis and Control are found in TIM and Saren as well as other Indoctrinated persons...I cant see how that can be a coincedence.

Lists and posts are great, but only videos really get people's attention. I tried making a post on the Infrasound evidence and it was universally ignored by everybody despite repeated attempts to call attention to it. Then I made a video, and for at least a week or two it was the amazing new evidence everyone was talking about... 

So, Turbo and I will be making videos. 

[HellishFiend]

Lord Goose wrote...

Though if you want to try, watch my
Choose Wisely video. You'd have to be in complete denial to
think the connections depicted in that video are wrong.

Can you please refrain from ''if you disagree with me, you're delusional/in denial/cultist''? I watched the video, but do not find your arguments convincing.


I just meant that sometimes even if something feels right it still could be not. Because people tend to find only evidence which supports their own point of view, and disregard everything which goes against it.

Care to explain how reprogramming of heretics is different from reprogramming the reapers? The only difference is scale for me.

Or, can you explain to me, why Paragon never clearly express desire to destroy the Reapers, while Renegade does?

Or maybe you can name any indoctrination attempt in form of complex visions, where you can make a choice, which allow you to beat such an attempt?

No, sorry, I dont jump through hoops for trolls. I'm done playing with you. I still remember that you were the one accusing me of "verbally abusing you" one day when I was being nothing but completely polite. 

[Chriz Tah Fah]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Emiya_Archer wrote...

There is no literal explanation for this:

The kid screaming, really Bioware!

At what time is the kid supposed to scream in the vid?

The sound was sorta off in that vid.



Right as the laser hits the first transport theres a echo-y scream.

Modifié par Chriz Tah Fah, 15 juillet 2012 - 06:25 .

[estebanus]

Hey guys! What's up? Did Masster Blaster give up his foolish plan?

[estebanus]

Uhhhhhh...Why the hell has this thread been pinned?

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Lord Goose wrote...

Though if you want to try, watch my
Choose Wisely video. You'd have to be in complete denial to
think the connections depicted in that video are wrong.

Can you please refrain from ''if you disagree with me, you're delusional/in denial/cultist''? I watched the video, but do not find your arguments convincing.


I just meant that sometimes even if something feels right it still could be not. Because people tend to find only evidence which supports their own point of view, and disregard everything which goes against it.

Care to explain how reprogramming of heretics is different from reprogramming the reapers? The only difference is scale for me.

Or, can you explain to me, why Paragon never clearly express desire to destroy the Reapers, while Renegade does?

Or maybe you can name any indoctrination attempt in form of complex visions, where you can make a choice, which allow you to beat such an attempt?

The Reapers are not fully Synthetic, they are a hybrid of Organic and Synthetic material and for all we know taht extends down to their very core. That alone is an indication that comparing Geth to Reapers is not accurate.

Double Edit: Legion even something similar in ME2 as he says the Reapers are more Humanity (Organics) future than it is Geth (Synthetics).

But yes the scale might be all, but have you seen the scale? Should i remind you that no one has successfully hacked an AI beyond the Reapers themselves?

Edit: Sorry, not quite true. Overlord DLC though I am not sure quite sure if that was hacking of if it was "talking."

The Geth while they can be hacked quickly reset to standard programing requiring a rewrite on the deepest level for it to have any lasting effect, something no beeing beyond the Reapers have done.


To put it into perspective even more. The Quarians who are a Tech minded people and who created the Geth spent 300 years coming up with a viable "weapon" against them. 300 years on a synthetic they created.

The reapers made said "weapon" useless in the matter of a few software upgrades which also changed all but 1 (or technically somewhere over 1000) of the Geth to serve the Reapers.

Now imagine having to hack the Reapers, a race which has existed for at least 1 billion years in which no one has successfully hacked them. In fact the group taht tried last cycle was Indoctrinated...

Now can you see why I am skeptical of Hacking or Controlling the Reapers?

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 15 juillet 2012 - 06:37 .

[Either.Ardrey]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Emiya_Archer wrote...

There is no literal explanation for this:

The kid screaming, really Bioware!

At what time is the kid supposed to scream in the vid?

The sound was sorta off in that vid.



Right as the laser hits the first transport theres a echo-y scream.

Okay, I heard it. Thanks.

To me, it didn't even sound like the kid. More like a woman's scream. Pre-modified banshee scream (like how they made the Nazgul screams in the LotR films, but using the sound before modification)?

Modifié par Either.Ardrey, 15 juillet 2012 - 06:32 .

[TSA_383]

estebanus wrote...

Uhhhhhh...Why the hell has this thread been pinned?

Because we're awesome

[paxxton]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Emiya_Archer wrote...

There is no literal explanation for this:

The kid screaming, really Bioware!

At what time is the kid supposed to scream in the vid?

The sound was sorta off in that vid.



Right as the laser hits the first transport theres a echo-y scream.

Okay, I heard it. Thanks.

To me, it didn't even sound like the kid. More like a woman's scream. Pre-modified banshee scream (like how they made the Nazgul screams in the LotR films, but using the sound before modification)?

It's beyond any doubt an eagle's sound. It was flying by and decided to chime in.

Modifié par paxxton, 15 juillet 2012 - 06:36 .

[Priss Blackburne]

I like how the etheral like music from the dream sequence is part of the music track after talking to the catalyst and walking to one of the three choices.

[estebanus]

TSA_383 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Uhhhhhh...Why the hell has this thread been pinned?

Because we're awesome

Weird... This happened right after comic con...

[Lord Goose]

The Reapers are not fully Synthetic, they are a hybrid of Organic and Synthetic material and for all we know taht extends down to their very core. That alone is an indication that comparing Geth to Reapers is not accurate.

I do not see much difference. In both cases you deal with army of sentient alien creatures, which are hostile to everyone. In both cases you change their intentions according you will.

Now imagine having to hack the Reapers, a race which has existed for at least 1 billion years in which no one has successfully hacked them. In fact the group taht tried last cycle was Indoctrinated...

Now can you see why I am skeptical of Hacking the Reapers?

I'm disccussing significance of such action, not possibility. And, by way, no one managed to destroy them either.

[HellishFiend]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

I like how the etheral like music from the dream sequence is part of the music track after talking to the catalyst and walking to one of the three choices.

I like how the prominent piano notes are used as overtone for the dream sequences. I thought it was a very nice touch. Also leads me to think that the piano pieces themselves are intended to be associated with dreams/hallucinations. 

[Priss Blackburne]

estebanus wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Uhhhhhh...Why the hell has this thread been pinned?

Because we're awesome

Weird... This happened right after comic con...

It could just be because it's the most active and longest thread and after a panel they expect it to ...yeah I have no idea

[Turbo_J]

estebanus wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Uhhhhhh...Why the hell has this thread been pinned?

Because we're awesome

Weird... This happened right after comic con...

Hah, that's... interesting.

[estebanus]

HellishFiend wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

I like how the etheral like music from the dream sequence is part of the music track after talking to the catalyst and walking to one of the three choices.

I like how the prominent piano notes are used as overtone for the dream sequences. I thought it was a very nice touch. Also leads me to think that the piano pieces themselves are intended to be associated with dreams/hallucinations. 

Huh. But isn't there also piano music when Grunt/Urdnot Dagg is killed?

[RavenEyry]

Lord Goose wrote...
 And, by way, no one managed to destroy them either.

I've seen individual reapers destroyed, but not a single one controlled.

[TSA_383]

Anyone want to feel crap at multiplayer?

How about a salarian infiltrator with only a widow rifle soloing reapers on gold?


^Compare and contrast with team IT getting slaughtered

Modifié par TSA_383, 15 juillet 2012 - 06:42 .

[estebanus]

Turbo_J wrote...

estebanus wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Uhhhhhh...Why the hell has this thread been pinned?

Because we're awesome

Weird... This happened right after comic con...

Hah, that's... interesting.

Indeed... 

*grabs speculation top hat* 

What could this possibly mean? That Bioware is planning something? That they may reveal something... shocking in this supposed leviathan DLC?

[RavenEyry]

estebanus wrote...
Huh. But isn't there also piano music when Grunt/Urdnot Dagg is killed?

Also when not-killed. But seriously, it seems more like 'sacrifice' music than 'dream' music to me.

[HellishFiend]

estebanus wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

I like how the etheral like music from the dream sequence is part of the music track after talking to the catalyst and walking to one of the three choices.

I like how the prominent piano notes are used as overtone for the dream sequences. I thought it was a very nice touch. Also leads me to think that the piano pieces themselves are intended to be associated with dreams/hallucinations. 

Huh. But isn't there also piano music when Grunt/Urdnot Dagg is killed?

Well, I meant specifically the Leaving Earth/An End piano piece by Mansell. 

[RavenEyry]

estebanus wrote...
Indeed... 

*grabs speculation top hat* 

What could this possibly mean? That Bioware is planning something? That they may reveal something... shocking in this supposed leviathan DLC?

*Grabs soul crushing flat cap*

200 EMS points!?! I'm holding onto my save forever!