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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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#47601
PatheticMan

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masster blaster wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

masster blaster wrote...



GreenFlag wrote...

Ok, again Mako :)


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but I think, it's optical illusion




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Speculations?

So anyone think this is legit?

In the second picture, what can be seen was deemed by some to be a part of the structure around the "destroy" tube.


Look at it guys, and ladys.




This could just be my overactive imagination, but I can see a corpse in the bottom right hand corner of that last image - possibly a husk..?

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alienatedflea wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

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reading too much into things can be pretty bad...IT is just that...a fan reading too much into a game...


So why not start reading what we have. It won't hurt you to try to see what we see.:D

why? lol Casey Hudson got his fat christmas wish..."Spectulation! Lots of Spectulation!"

IT is based on spectulation...Thats the only fact that IT has going for itself....


So is saying it's bad writing. you are speculating on the fact that the end itself was just bad writing. and have you notice that you have to explain to people why it's bad writing. In which case you are speculating too.

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alienatedflea wrote...

IT is based on spectulation...Thats the only fact that IT has going for itself....


Speculation, thematic evidence, visual clues, plotholes...

There's a lot more to it then you're making out.  And I expect you know this as well.

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ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

"Bad writing, I thought we had dismissed that claim"

"Damn IT-ers are a bunch of blind stubborn morons!"


Calling them morons is uncalled for. Before dismissing them as morons, maybe take the time to learn about the theory and then make your conclusions.

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Alienated, it's fine if you don't believe or like Indoctrination Theory. I myself believe that Bioware completely bombed the ending in a misguided attempt to be clever. But just because Bioware left us a mess doesn't mean that we, as dedicated fans of the series, can't pick up the pieces and fashion something that is both thematically and logically coherent and consistent with the rest of the series, and thus give other fans of the series we've come to know and love over five years an appropriate finale, cliffhanger though it may or may not be.

If you have a problem with it, you're not obligated to stay.

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masster blaster wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...

reading too much into things can be pretty bad...IT is just that...a fan reading too much into a game...


So why not start reading what we have. It won't hurt you to try to see what we see.:D

why? lol Casey Hudson got his fat christmas wish..."Spectulation! Lots of Spectulation!"

IT is based on spectulation...Thats the only fact that IT has going for itself....


So is saying it's bad writing. you are speculating on the fact that the end itself was just bad writing. and have you notice that you have to explain to people why it's bad writing. In which case you are speculating too.

lol i never said that...I actually liked the endings before and after EC...never was pissed about the game...never had to grab hold of a sh!tty pipe dreams like Indoctrination Theory so I can feel better about the game like you and so many others had to....

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Guys just give them a break. They are not like the other trolls, or other people we have had come into this thread. Am I right, and we have had worse.

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Andromidius wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...
No one here is being constructive right now (only looked at this page so far) so why you gotta place all that dismissal on a fellow IT-er? I was only letting him know what i've seen these past few days


You mustn't have been paying attention.  There's been quite a bit of discussion a few pages back.

Oh, and stop saying IT is dead.  It isn't.  Lying is bad, mkay?

As i said: i only seen the page in which i posted in so yea there you go.
Again, i was only telling yous what i have seen in these past few days outside the walls of this thread.
Havent seen a single IT-er out there whereas before we were everywhere. Maybe i've been looking in the wrong places or maybe i was right. Take your pick

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alienatedflea wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...

reading too much into things can be pretty bad...IT is just that...a fan reading too much into a game...


So why not start reading what we have. It won't hurt you to try to see what we see.:D

why? lol Casey Hudson got his fat christmas wish..."Spectulation! Lots of Spectulation!"

IT is based on spectulation...Thats the only fact that IT has going for itself....


So is saying it's bad writing. you are speculating on the fact that the end itself was just bad writing. and have you notice that you have to explain to people why it's bad writing. In which case you are speculating too.

lol i never said that...I actually liked the endings before and after EC...never was pissed about the game...never had to grab hold of a sh!tty pipe dreams like Indoctrination Theory so I can feel better about the game like you and so many others had to....


is it if you never look at the endings closer, and tried to give IT a chance.

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

"Bad writing, I thought we had dismissed that claim"

"Damn IT-ers are a bunch of blind stubborn morons!"


Calling them morons is uncalled for. Before dismissing them as morons, maybe take the time to learn about the theory and then make your conclusions.

Jesus, no one here can take a joke huh? Lol

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Does anybody else see it?

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Simon_Says wrote...

Alienated, it's fine if you don't believe or like Indoctrination Theory. I myself believe that Bioware completely bombed the ending in a misguided attempt to be clever. But just because Bioware left us a mess doesn't mean that we, as dedicated fans of the series, can't pick up the pieces and fashion something that is both thematically and logically coherent and consistent with the rest of the series, and thus give other fans of the series we've come to know and love over five years an appropriate finale, cliffhanger though it may or may not be.

If you have a problem with it, you're not obligated to stay.

lol I never said I didnt like the ending or the series...I do not see the point to carry on a theory that has no meat to it...its pointless...and this is a forum and gamers like you and me can debate and will debate on the game but these notions that Conventional Victory is possible and Indoctrination Theory is legit are ludacris to say the least...pure spectulation...

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ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...
No one here is being constructive right now (only looked at this page so far) so why you gotta place all that dismissal on a fellow IT-er? I was only letting him know what i've seen these past few days


You mustn't have been paying attention.  There's been quite a bit of discussion a few pages back.

Oh, and stop saying IT is dead.  It isn't.  Lying is bad, mkay?

As i said: i only seen the page in which i posted in so yea there you go.
Again, i was only telling yous what i have seen in these past few days outside the walls of this thread.
Havent seen a single IT-er out there whereas before we were everywhere. Maybe i've been looking in the wrong places or maybe i was right. Take your pick


i have been out there uniting everyone to combine their theorys and make the ultimate THEORY. but ya i have. been out there, but it's not save to go out there. Since there is a thread war going on.

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ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

"Bad writing, I thought we had dismissed that claim"

"Damn IT-ers are a bunch of blind stubborn morons!"


Calling them morons is uncalled for. Before dismissing them as morons, maybe take the time to learn about the theory and then make your conclusions.

Jesus, no one here can take a joke huh? Lol


You're not much of a comedian. Might I suggest not quitting your day job.

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Simon_Says wrote...

Alienated, it's fine if you don't believe or like Indoctrination Theory. I myself believe that Bioware completely bombed the ending in a misguided attempt to be clever. But just because Bioware left us a mess doesn't mean that we, as dedicated fans of the series, can't pick up the pieces and fashion something that is both thematically and logically coherent and consistent with the rest of the series, and thus give other fans of the series we've come to know and love over five years an appropriate finale, cliffhanger though it may or may not be.

If you have a problem with it, you're not obligated to stay.

^^ this

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masster blaster wrote...

is it if you never look at the endings closer, and tried to give IT a chance.

haha you're as if IT is real....lmao

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I am going to make something clear for those clearly too stupid to understand it.

Bad writing is not an explanation and never has been. It is the absence of an explanation and I am getting sick of the people who keep trumpeting it like it is the end all be all answer.

Give us a reason why the writing was bad.

Oh wait, you can't. You can only give things you didn't like personally because the writing for most of ME3 is in fact excellent and it is physically impossible for one writer, let alone a team of 8 to suddenly have a collective brain anyreusm and begin to believe that something so completely diametrically opposed to the rest of the entire series, a series that they themeslves created is actually suitable.

This would be like Tolkein trying to convince us in the last five minutes of Return of the King that the Orcs were really the good guys all along.

It's not that this is bad writing because it happens, it's that this does not happen. Period.

Stop trying to use "bad writing" as an excuse for your lack of an argument and take your pessimism and disappointment somewhere else.

Those of us who would like to have a somewhat mature conversation would prefer to be alone now.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 16 juillet 2012 - 03:29 .


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alienatedflea wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...

reading too much into things can be pretty bad...IT is just that...a fan reading too much into a game...


So why not start reading what we have. It won't hurt you to try to see what we see.:D

why? lol Casey Hudson got his fat christmas wish..."Spectulation! Lots of Spectulation!"

IT is based on spectulation...Thats the only fact that IT has going for itself....


So is saying it's bad writing. you are speculating on the fact that the end itself was just bad writing. and have you notice that you have to explain to people why it's bad writing. In which case you are speculating too.

lol i never said that...I actually liked the endings before and after EC...never was pissed about the game...never had to grab hold of a sh!tty pipe dreams like Indoctrination Theory so I can feel better about the game like you and so many others had to....

So you think that the only reason people like the IT is because they don't like the endings, not because the theory in itself is very compelling? 

All Right then. Why are you here if that is all you can add? Is it fun insulting people? Does it make you feel like a big man? Trying to make up for something?

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ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Alienated, it's fine if you don't believe or like Indoctrination Theory. I myself believe that Bioware completely bombed the ending in a misguided attempt to be clever. But just because Bioware left us a mess doesn't mean that we, as dedicated fans of the series, can't pick up the pieces and fashion something that is both thematically and logically coherent and consistent with the rest of the series, and thus give other fans of the series we've come to know and love over five years an appropriate finale, cliffhanger though it may or may not be.

If you have a problem with it, you're not obligated to stay.

^^ this

so to strengthen your beloved theory...you would outcast any discending views? NICE WORK

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PatheticMan wrote...

Does anybody else see it?


I do. It looks like the face to me. But I could be wrong.

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PatheticMan wrote...

Does anybody else see it?


I honestly dont see it. Especially because its really dark

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

"Bad writing, I thought we had dismissed that claim"

"Damn IT-ers are a bunch of blind stubborn morons!"


Calling them morons is uncalled for. Before dismissing them as morons, maybe take the time to learn about the theory and then make your conclusions.

Jesus, no one here can take a joke huh? Lol


You're not much of a comedian. Might I suggest not quitting your day job.

Might i suggest lightening up? ******

#47623
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Alien don't go stay and try to give IT a chance. We are not all that bad, it's just we been called Cults religious freaks, and Zealots. That kind of makes you uneasy to new comers that come here.

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Let me guess we were un pinned and the trolls thought it would be funny to come in and annoy us?

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estebanus wrote...

So you think that the only reason people like the IT is because they don't like the endings, not because the theory in itself is very compelling? 

All Right then. Why are you here if that is all you can add? Is it fun insulting people? Does it make you feel like a big man? Trying to make up for something?

lol yes that is exactly it otherwise...if bioware did all 16 endings PERFECT, Indoctrination theory would not exist...are you telling me that IT would still exist if the endings were done right the first time around? bullsh@t