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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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There - I brightened it up a little bit.
That looks like face to me....

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Alright everyone, ease up on alienated. I know he's not exactly being... polite, but... Oh frak, I want to give a justification, but honestly, I'm as frustrated with these kinds of guys as you are. However, there comes a point where enough is enough.

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masster blaster wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

Guys, here's a novel idea: DON'T RESPOND TO THE TROLL. It doesn't lead to anything except frustration, anger, and general negative emotions. So pretend he isn't there. I know I intend to.




I am trying to get them to stop but they are in kill mode now Loka.


It's okay Masster lol, I say we all get up and go for a walk some where. Anyways I ahve to go have a life lol later all.

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PatheticMan wrote...

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There - I brightened it up a little bit.
That looks like face to me....

Link goes nowhere for me

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ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...

estebanus wrote...

There is a reason the ending is as it is. If Bioware had "done right" the first time around, then starchild wouldn't exist. We would have had a completely different ending where you don't get to choose what coulour the crucible should fire. We would have a completely different ending. The endings as we have now are intentionally ambiguous. 

But according to the IT, Bioware did in fact "do right."

lol so you are suggesting that EC was Bioware's version of trolling IT?

Actually thats exactly what i thought the first time around lol


Actually, it's kind of the opposite. The EC gives players/Shepard's exactly what they want so they 'believe' there is closure... if you want to call it something believable. It's exactly what the process of Indoctrination seems to do in order to alter the thought patterns of an individual, thus aligning their way of thinking with the Reapers.

I'd say this was more of a trolling on literal interpretation. As many have pointed out, the EC actually strengthened the idea that Shepard is being subjected to the process of Indoctrination.

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PatheticMan wrote...

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There - I brightened it up a little bit.
That looks like face to me....

Fixed.

Also I love how everyone is trying to correct Payaso.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 16 juillet 2012 - 03:56 .


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ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

PatheticMan wrote...

<a href='http://social.bioware.com//uploads_user/3140000/3139106/216925.jpg'><img src='http://social.biowar...9106/216925.jpg' border='0'></a>

There - I brightened it up a little bit.
That looks like face to me....

Link goes nowhere for me


I hope it works now.

EDIT: Thank you, Simon_Says!

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Simon_Says wrote...

PatheticMan wrote...

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There - I brightened it up a little bit.
That looks like face to me....

Fixed.

Where is face you speak of? Posted Image

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Simon_Says wrote...

PatheticMan wrote...

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There - I brightened it up a little bit.
That looks like face to me....

Fixed.

Also I love how everyone is trying to correct Payaso.


What looks like a face.

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Turbo_J wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...

estebanus wrote...

There is a reason the ending is as it is. If Bioware had "done right" the first time around, then starchild wouldn't exist. We would have had a completely different ending where you don't get to choose what coulour the crucible should fire. We would have a completely different ending. The endings as we have now are intentionally ambiguous. 

But according to the IT, Bioware did in fact "do right."

lol so you are suggesting that EC was Bioware's version of trolling IT?

Actually thats exactly what i thought the first time around lol


Actually, it's kind of the opposite. The EC gives players/Shepard's exactly what they want so they 'believe' there is closure... if you want to call it something believable. It's exactly what the process of Indoctrination seems to do in order to alter the thought patterns of an individual, thus aligning their way of thinking with the Reapers.

I'd say this was more of a trolling on literal interpretation. As many have pointed out, the EC actually strengthened the idea that Shepard is being subjected to the process of Indoctrination.

Only things i've seen that strengthen it is that whole evacuation scene

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estebanus wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...

estebanus wrote...


You came in here and insulted us. And then you expect us to show you respect? When you come in here with a post saying that we're all just stupid, do ou really expect us to be nice? 

Now, how about you shape up your manners, and we can start with constructive debating?

again...you should use words you know of...I didnt insult anyone...I was simply giving my opinion of the IT...not to the disrespectful people like you that force people out of here and then you guys wonder why more and more people hate IT and are constantly disproving it....

 

How about you read your last few posts? Because I'm pretty sure you don't know the meaning of the word.

Hey Estebanus. Have fun at SDCC? Try out any of the DLC?

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ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

Boy, what a constructive thread i tell ya

Hey, some people are trying, but it's not easy when no one has any healthy debate to put forth and it goes on a ****** for tat insult spree. I try to be one of the rational minds to try to remind people to be civil and use level heads, but when it gets this far in, there's nothing to do until it runs its course.

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ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

Boy, what a constructive thread i tell ya


We have our moments.

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We sharing screens? awesome. Here have a bigger one mystery items #1 and 2:

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And an [speculative] outline why not:

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ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

Only things i've seen that strengthen it is that whole evacuation scene

And not the odd noise when Anderson wakes up Shepard? Or that the Starbrat reveals itself to be a reaper? Or that the Control and Synthesis epilogues have been made to appear more sinister and suspect, respectively?

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Rosewind wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

PatheticMan wrote...

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There - I brightened it up a little bit.
That looks like face to me....

Fixed.

Also I love how everyone is trying to correct Payaso.


What looks like a face.

I think i see what he means but to me it looks like nothing but concrete rubble. Do you see the face at the very bottom or hidden in the smoke?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...

estebanus wrote...


You came in here and insulted us. And then you expect us to show you respect? When you come in here with a post saying that we're all just stupid, do ou really expect us to be nice? 

Now, how about you shape up your manners, and we can start with constructive debating?

again...you should use words you know of...I didnt insult anyone...I was simply giving my opinion of the IT...not to the disrespectful people like you that force people out of here and then you guys wonder why more and more people hate IT and are constantly disproving it....

 

How about you read your last few posts? Because I'm pretty sure you don't know the meaning of the word.

Hey Estebanus. Have fun at SDCC? Try out any of the DLC?

 

It's an interesting cultural experience.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

We sharing screens? awesome. Here have a bigger one mystery items #1 and 2:

Posted Image

And an [speculative] outline why not:

Posted Image


So that's where I parked the Mako.

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Simon_Says wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

Only things i've seen that strengthen it is that whole evacuation scene

And not the odd noise when Anderson wakes up Shepard? Or that the Starbrat reveals itself to be a reaper? Or that the Control and Synthesis epilogues have been made to appear more sinister and suspect, respectively?

Yeah, there is a lot of new stuff. Some blatantly obvious like the evac scene or the mechanical wake-up noise, some more subtle like the music/feel of the endings.

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ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

PatheticMan wrote...
*snip*

There - I brightened it up a little bit.
That looks like face to me....

Fixed.

Also I love how everyone is trying to correct Payaso.


What looks like a face.

I think i see what he means but to me it looks like nothing but concrete rubble. Do you see the face at the very bottom or hidden in the smoke?

I don't see it.

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Simon_Says wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

Only things i've seen that strengthen it is that whole evacuation scene

And not the odd noise when Anderson wakes up Shepard? Or that the Starbrat reveals itself to be a reaper? Or that the Control and Synthesis epilogues have been made to appear more sinister and suspect, respectively?


I wouldn't say sinister exactly (refering to Control I assume), definitely suspect though.

Oh, remember in that Q&A yesterday they mentioned those slides show progress from years to decades. I find that interesting since the Shepard Alive bonus scene takes place after every slide and Memorial Wall scene.

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ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

PatheticMan wrote...

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There - I brightened it up a little bit.
That looks like face to me....

Fixed.

Also I love how everyone is trying to correct Payaso.


What looks like a face.

I think i see what he means but to me it looks like nothing but concrete rubble. Do you see the face at the very bottom or hidden in the smoke?


*Turns head left to Right, squints really hard* Nope don't see anything but concrete.

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Simon_Says wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

Only things i've seen that strengthen it is that whole evacuation scene

And not the odd noise when Anderson wakes up Shepard? Or that the Starbrat reveals itself to be a reaper? Or that the Control and Synthesis epilogues have been made to appear more sinister and suspect, respectively?

To me the part where anderson wakes shep up seemed the same aside from the camera angle. The starchild revealing itself to be a reaper is one i havent seen (unless you mean when it says "us") and the synth./control endings do in fact seem very sinister, especially control.