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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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I agree that I could just be seeing a face in the same way I'd see one in wallpaper or a cloud, so if anybody here is good with image editing software, please try and help confirm whether or not it is a face.

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Later, Rose.

Also, we should totally send Rory Breaker to Bioware's office in Edmonton on our behalf.

-edit- Repost for great justice.

Simon_Says wrote...

Might I remind people that it's
actually a common illusion for people to see faces in random data. It's
one of those quirky glitches of our instinct to discover and recognize
patterns, even when none exist.


Modifié par Simon_Says, 16 juillet 2012 - 04:14 .


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estebanus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

Boy, what a constructive thread i tell ya


Boy, what a constructive comment, I tell ya.

 
Boy, what a constructive gif I tell ya.
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OMG what if the asari with the Paladin is this one? Posted Image
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Rosewind wrote...

Okay now I am really going lol till later all.

See ya.

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Se ya later, Rose.

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Modifié par estebanus, 16 juillet 2012 - 04:16 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

Boy, what a constructive thread i tell ya


Boy, what a constructive comment, I tell ya.

 
Boy, what a constructive gif I tell ya.
Posted Image 

OMG what if the asari with the Paladin is this one? Posted Image
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#47733
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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

L0NEWOLF25 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

We sharing screens? awesome. Here have a bigger one mystery items #1 and 2:

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And an [speculative] outline why not:

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That curved piece of metal looks like part of the Citadel beam. Is that just me?


If you ccan find those exact shapes and curves anywhere in the game you win the internet. I've looked up and down the game, closest thing are the curved panels that form the inner structure of the Beam but they're NOT and exact match.

I don't know why someones calling that the front of the Mako, considering that objected is a side shot of it not a front shot that'd be more of a side vent than anything. That's assuming it's a Mako at all, could be something completely different.

Could it be the troop transport? Sorry, I don't know what it's called.

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estebanus wrote...

There is a reason the ending is as it is. If Bioware had "done right" the first time around, then starchild wouldn't exist. We would have had a completely different ending where you don't get to choose what coulour the crucible should fire. We would have a completely different ending. The endings as we have now are intentionally ambiguous. 

But according to the IT, Bioware did in fact "do right."

lol so you are suggesting that EC was Bioware's version of trolling IT?

Actually thats exactly what i thought the first time around lol


Actually, it's kind of the opposite. The EC gives players/Shepard's exactly what they want so they 'believe' there is closure... if you want to call it something believable. It's exactly what the process of Indoctrination seems to do in order to alter the thought patterns of an individual, thus aligning their way of thinking with the Reapers.

I'd say this was more of a trolling on literal interpretation. As many have pointed out, the EC actually strengthened the idea that Shepard is being subjected to the process of Indoctrination.

Only things i've seen that strengthen it is that whole evacuation scene


There is still the breathe scene in the high EMS destroy ending. I chose destroy just to see if they added anything to clarify how we go from being blown up with the Citadel to lying in London's rubble breathing. And they didn't. I found it odd that there is now a Normandy pick up scene, yet nothing to clarify how you survive the Citadel explosion. Don't even try it either. There is no way to explain Shepard's survival in high EMS destroy without IT.  

Maybe it was bad writing Posted Image lmao JK GUYS dont take it seriously this time.
I hope Bioware releases the ACTUAL ending at some point.
We need our boss battle with Harbinger already!

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Well, I have to go. I'll see you all later.

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Dwailing wrote...

Well, I have to go. I'll see you all later.

 

See ya.

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Laters.

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Can someone tell me what is the significance of the "twinkling" of the Catalyst for the IT?

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ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...

estebanus wrote...

There is a reason the ending is as it is. If Bioware had "done right" the first time around, then starchild wouldn't exist. We would have had a completely different ending where you don't get to choose what coulour the crucible should fire. We would have a completely different ending. The endings as we have now are intentionally ambiguous. 

But according to the IT, Bioware did in fact "do right."

lol so you are suggesting that EC was Bioware's version of trolling IT?

Actually thats exactly what i thought the first time around lol


Actually, it's kind of the opposite. The EC gives players/Shepard's exactly what they want so they 'believe' there is closure... if you want to call it something believable. It's exactly what the process of Indoctrination seems to do in order to alter the thought patterns of an individual, thus aligning their way of thinking with the Reapers.

I'd say this was more of a trolling on literal interpretation. As many have pointed out, the EC actually strengthened the idea that Shepard is being subjected to the process of Indoctrination.

Only things i've seen that strengthen it is that whole evacuation scene


There is still the breathe scene in the high EMS destroy ending. I chose destroy just to see if they added anything to clarify how we go from being blown up with the Citadel to lying in London's rubble breathing. And they didn't. I found it odd that there is now a Normandy pick up scene, yet nothing to clarify how you survive the Citadel explosion. Don't even try it either. There is no way to explain Shepard's survival in high EMS destroy without IT.  

Maybe it was bad writing Posted Image lmao JK GUYS dont take it seriously this time.
I hope Bioware releases the ACTUAL ending at some point.
We need our boss battle with Harbinger already!


Here's what I want:

1: I want to wake up.

2: I want to kick Harbinger in the proverbial cajones.

3: I want to either A: activate the Crucible and have all the Reapers EXPLODE; or B: Have a massive space battle that we're able to win through the combined might of the united galaxy.

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FreddyCast wrote...

Can someone tell me what is the significance of the "twinkling" of the Catalyst for the IT?

Either a conincdence of animation or a very, very subtle hint that it's losing its grip on Shepard.

No concrete support one way or the other.

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Dwailing wrote...

Well, I have to go. I'll see you all later.

Bye.

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Is it just me when we pick Destroy when we see the Krogan cheering. did any of you think that the Krogan next to the Shaman was Wreav. And that lieutenant Asari that did on Thesis was there too at the end, or was that a different Asari.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Could it be the troop transport? Sorry, I don't know what it's called.


If it's not a Mako but still some kind of vehicle it's been speculated that it could be one of those Alliance Transports without the "hunch" on it's back. it's the only other thing aside from (i think) the Hammerhead that has those shapes on it's topside.

Honestly not 100% that it's a vehicle, but don't know what else it could be.

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I have never heard a reasonable explanation outside of IT as to how shep survives. I also doubt i will ever hear one...

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Simon_Says wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Can someone tell me what is the significance of the "twinkling" of the Catalyst for the IT?

Either a conincdence of animation or a very, very subtle hint that it's losing its grip on Shepard.

No concrete support one way or the other.


Mind pointing out this twinkiling? I might have missed it.

Edit: Or it is exactly what I think it is. Show me anyway ;).

Modifié par Chriz Tah Fah, 16 juillet 2012 - 04:23 .


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masster blaster wrote...

Is it just me when we pick Destroy when we see the Krogan cheering. did any of you think that the Krogan next to the Shaman was Wreav. And that lieutenant Asari that did on Thesis was there too at the end, or was that a different Asari.

 

The Asari lietenant who died had heavy armor.

Modifié par estebanus, 16 juillet 2012 - 04:23 .


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Simon_Says wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Can someone tell me what is the significance of the "twinkling" of the Catalyst for the IT?

Either a conincdence of animation or a very, very subtle hint that it's losing its grip on Shepard.

No concrete support one way or the other.

OK, what about when the Catalyst says "Your belief is not Required"? It is the only time its voice sounds louder. Is it true you don't hear the background voice of male and female Shep, which always accompanies the Godbrat's voice?

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Paultheoctopus wrote...

I have never heard a reasonable explanation outside of IT as to how shep survives. I also doubt i will ever hear one...


The only other way is if there's a lot of things happening off screen we don't see (like Shepard somehow getting on a shuttle and outrunning the blast) that they probably could've just added in EC but didn't.

Other than that the only "solid" explanation is that there was no explosion/Shepard never left Earth etc.

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FreddyCast wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Can someone tell me what is the significance of the "twinkling" of the Catalyst for the IT?

Either a conincdence of animation or a very, very subtle hint that it's losing its grip on Shepard.

No concrete support one way or the other.

OK, what about when the Catalyst says "Your belief is not Required"? It is the only time its voice sounds louder. Is it true you don't hear the background voice of male and female Shep, which always accompanies the Godbrat's voice?

Check it yourself, it does. The Shep voices don't disappear compeltely, but they're drowned out by the Starbrat's.
The twinkling occurs right before or during this line, btw.

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estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Is it just me when we pick Destroy when we see the Krogan cheering. did any of you think that the Krogan next to the Shaman was Wreav. And that lieutenant Asari that did on Thesis was there too at the end, or was that a different Asari.

 

The Asari lietenant who died had heavy armor.


okay what about that krogan that look just like Wreav, if you saave teh Krogan race, and havc Wrex in charge.