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The Crucible is destroyed in the explosion? I need to check this. Cause if that happens, yeah. No way Shepard could survive that.
Except calculate the speed Shepard would be traveling at. How fast they'd impact something.Iconoclaste wrote...
The EC just expanded on the Citadel not being blown up totally, but it could already be seen in the original endings. Just the "hinges" and the "ring" were damaged, but most of the "arms" were not, except for a few explosions here and there.Simon_Says wrote...
Strictly speaking since the EC changed the fact that the Citadel doesn't compeltely blow itself apart, Shepard being on the Citadel isn't impossible. Still highly unlikely, since the breath scene contains rubble that looks exactly like Earth rubble, with elements that resemble beam structure and an alliance vehicle. It's still impossible for Shepard to have been on the Citadel to activate the Crucible and then show up on Earth to wake up.
Shepard could have been "ejected" towards the arms by the 1st growing sphere of red "space magic", since it can be seen it the cutscene that it "pushes" material outwards, in space around the Citadel. If one looks closely, there are visibles "chunks" of material (ship debris?) been "pushed" by the red energy sphere, but there does not seem to be "heat" related to that. If Shepard has been "pushed" then he might as well be far enough from the 2nd explosion to not suffer too much from it. He could also have been shielded by debris "pushed" along with him, like pieces of the red tube's structure, that would have landed close to him, as shown in the breath scene.
Yeah, well that's good enough for me.WandySilva wrote...
Simon_Says wrote...
The Crucible is destroyed in the explosion? I need to check this. Cause if that happens, yeah. No way Shepard could survive that.
not destroyed, or, not blown apart like pre EC. It is still subject to multiple explosions, including the central area where shepard is thought to be.
He was resurrected in ME2, that's enough to make a lot "possible". I'm not saying he's in top shape either.Simon_Says wrote...
Except calculate the speed Shepard would be traveling at. How fast they'd impact something.
Yes, chunky salsa.
F=ma (Dead Shepard = ma)Simon_Says wrote...
Except calculate the speed Shepard would be traveling at. How fast they'd impact something.Iconoclaste wrote...
The EC just expanded on the Citadel not being blown up totally, but it could already be seen in the original endings. Just the "hinges" and the "ring" were damaged, but most of the "arms" were not, except for a few explosions here and there.Simon_Says wrote...
Strictly speaking since the EC changed the fact that the Citadel doesn't compeltely blow itself apart, Shepard being on the Citadel isn't impossible. Still highly unlikely, since the breath scene contains rubble that looks exactly like Earth rubble, with elements that resemble beam structure and an alliance vehicle. It's still impossible for Shepard to have been on the Citadel to activate the Crucible and then show up on Earth to wake up.
Shepard could have been "ejected" towards the arms by the 1st growing sphere of red "space magic", since it can be seen it the cutscene that it "pushes" material outwards, in space around the Citadel. If one looks closely, there are visibles "chunks" of material (ship debris?) been "pushed" by the red energy sphere, but there does not seem to be "heat" related to that. If Shepard has been "pushed" then he might as well be far enough from the 2nd explosion to not suffer too much from it. He could also have been shielded by debris "pushed" along with him, like pieces of the red tube's structure, that would have landed close to him, as shown in the breath scene.
Yes, chunky salsa.
Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 16 juillet 2012 - 04:55 .
Chunky salsa doesn't breathe, period.Iconoclaste wrote...
He was resurrected in ME2, that's enough to make a lot "possible". I'm not saying he's in top shape either.Simon_Says wrote...
Except calculate the speed Shepard would be traveling at. How fast they'd impact something.
Yes, chunky salsa.
Simon_Says wrote...
Ask and ye shall receive.
The debris accelerated by the red sphere are not even going at the speed the sphere is expanding, so it's possible Shepard is subjected to the same effect.Simon_Says wrote...
Chunky salsa doesn't breathe, period.Iconoclaste wrote...
He was resurrected in ME2, that's enough to make a lot "possible". I'm not saying he's in top shape either.Simon_Says wrote...
Except calculate the speed Shepard would be traveling at. How fast they'd impact something.
Yes, chunky salsa.
Modifié par Iconoclaste, 16 juillet 2012 - 04:57 .
Simon_Says wrote...
Except calculate the speed Shepard would be traveling at. How fast they'd impact something.Iconoclaste wrote...
The EC just expanded on the Citadel not being blown up totally, but it could already be seen in the original endings. Just the "hinges" and the "ring" were damaged, but most of the "arms" were not, except for a few explosions here and there.Simon_Says wrote...
Strictly speaking since the EC changed the fact that the Citadel doesn't compeltely blow itself apart, Shepard being on the Citadel isn't impossible. Still highly unlikely, since the breath scene contains rubble that looks exactly like Earth rubble, with elements that resemble beam structure and an alliance vehicle. It's still impossible for Shepard to have been on the Citadel to activate the Crucible and then show up on Earth to wake up.
Shepard could have been "ejected" towards the arms by the 1st growing sphere of red "space magic", since it can be seen it the cutscene that it "pushes" material outwards, in space around the Citadel. If one looks closely, there are visibles "chunks" of material (ship debris?) been "pushed" by the red energy sphere, but there does not seem to be "heat" related to that. If Shepard has been "pushed" then he might as well be far enough from the 2nd explosion to not suffer too much from it. He could also have been shielded by debris "pushed" along with him, like pieces of the red tube's structure, that would have landed close to him, as shown in the breath scene.
Yes, chunky salsa.
Starbrat twinkles when it says "If you do not use the Crucible..." It's weak, I know. Probably a coincidence or just an animation quirk of the camera pan.Chriz Tah Fah wrote...
Simon_Says wrote...
Ask and ye shall receive.
Thanks! The link is a minute before he says it though. I hear the kids voice more but I don't see the twinkling.
Modifié par Simon_Says, 16 juillet 2012 - 04:59 .
Mmmmm. Shepa - I mean salsa .....Rosewind wrote...
Simon_Says wrote...
Except calculate the speed Shepard would be traveling at. How fast they'd impact something.Iconoclaste wrote...
The EC just expanded on the Citadel not being blown up totally, but it could already be seen in the original endings. Just the "hinges" and the "ring" were damaged, but most of the "arms" were not, except for a few explosions here and there.Simon_Says wrote...
Strictly speaking since the EC changed the fact that the Citadel doesn't compeltely blow itself apart, Shepard being on the Citadel isn't impossible. Still highly unlikely, since the breath scene contains rubble that looks exactly like Earth rubble, with elements that resemble beam structure and an alliance vehicle. It's still impossible for Shepard to have been on the Citadel to activate the Crucible and then show up on Earth to wake up.
Shepard could have been "ejected" towards the arms by the 1st growing sphere of red "space magic", since it can be seen it the cutscene that it "pushes" material outwards, in space around the Citadel. If one looks closely, there are visibles "chunks" of material (ship debris?) been "pushed" by the red energy sphere, but there does not seem to be "heat" related to that. If Shepard has been "pushed" then he might as well be far enough from the 2nd explosion to not suffer too much from it. He could also have been shielded by debris "pushed" along with him, like pieces of the red tube's structure, that would have landed close to him, as shown in the breath scene.
Yes, chunky salsa.
Mmmmm Salsa .....
Iconoclaste wrote...
He was resurrected in ME2, that's enough to make a lot "possible". I'm not saying he's in top shape either.Simon_Says wrote...
Except calculate the speed Shepard would be traveling at. How fast they'd impact something.
Yes, chunky salsa.
Chriz Tah Fah wrote...
I would be very angry if we got a "cop out" response stating that Shepard activated the Crucible WITH HIS MIND and then woke up in the aftermath.
There's precedent for it though. The geth concensus had Shepard performing symbolic action in the dreamworld that affected things in meatspace. Also, if the reapers are having a two-way connection with Shepard, then it's possible to send destructive feedback to whatever's on the other end, as was done by killing Sarenbot.Chriz Tah Fah wrote...
I would be very angry if we got a "cop out" response stating that Shepard activated the Crucible WITH HIS MIND and then woke up in the aftermath.
Oh there is plenty of more compelling evidence than just the timeframe, but alas, I should go. See you all later.Paultheoctopus wrote...
Iconoclaste wrote...
He was resurrected in ME2, that's enough to make a lot "possible". I'm not saying he's in top shape either.Simon_Says wrote...
Except calculate the speed Shepard would be traveling at. How fast they'd impact something.
Yes, chunky salsa.
Yea thats a bit of a red herring though, because we come to find out shepard was clinically dead after that, and it took 2 years and almost all of cerberus to bring him back
Simon_Says wrote...
There's precedent for it though. The geth concensus had Shepard performing symbolic action in the dreamworld that affected things in meatspace. Also, if the reapers are having a two-way connection with Shepard, then it's possible to send destructive feedback to whatever's on the other end, as was done by killing Sarenbot.Chriz Tah Fah wrote...
I would be very angry if we got a "cop out" response stating that Shepard activated the Crucible WITH HIS MIND and then woke up in the aftermath.
Not that I know of and I doubt it, but who knows?FreddyCast wrote...
Does EDI give a different speech if Shep was a 100% Renegade and chose Synthesis?
Simon_Says wrote...
Starbrat twinkles when it says "If you do not use the Crucible..." It's weak, I know. Probably a coincidence or just an animation quirk of the camera pan.Chriz Tah Fah wrote...
Simon_Says wrote...
Ask and ye shall receive.
Thanks! The link is a minute before he says it though. I hear the kids voice more but I don't see the twinkling.
Not necessarily the crucible, but desctructive feedback to Harbinger/the reapers.WandySilva wrote...
Simon_Says wrote...
There's precedent for it though. The geth concensus had Shepard performing symbolic action in the dreamworld that affected things in meatspace. Also, if the reapers are having a two-way connection with Shepard, then it's possible to send destructive feedback to whatever's on the other end, as was done by killing Sarenbot.Chriz Tah Fah wrote...
I would be very angry if we got a "cop out" response stating that Shepard activated the Crucible WITH HIS MIND and then woke up in the aftermath.
but if the theory is true, the crucible still hasnt made contact with the citadel
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Not necessarily the crucible, but desctructive feedback to Harbinger/the reapers.WandySilva wrote...
Simon_Says wrote...
There's precedent for it though. The geth concensus had Shepard performing symbolic action in the dreamworld that affected things in meatspace. Also, if the reapers are having a two-way connection with Shepard, then it's possible to send destructive feedback to whatever's on the other end, as was done by killing Sarenbot.Chriz Tah Fah wrote...
I would be very angry if we got a "cop out" response stating that Shepard activated the Crucible WITH HIS MIND and then woke up in the aftermath.
but if the theory is true, the crucible still hasnt made contact with the citadel
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Not necessarily the crucible, but desctructive feedback to Harbinger/the reapers.WandySilva wrote...
Simon_Says wrote...
There's precedent for it though. The geth concensus had Shepard performing symbolic action in the dreamworld that affected things in meatspace. Also, if the reapers are having a two-way connection with Shepard, then it's possible to send destructive feedback to whatever's on the other end, as was done by killing Sarenbot.Chriz Tah Fah wrote...
I would be very angry if we got a "cop out" response stating that Shepard activated the Crucible WITH HIS MIND and then woke up in the aftermath.
but if the theory is true, the crucible still hasnt made contact with the citadel
Or has it? Hacket got a report that someone made it to the beam. But he couldn't confirm for sure that Shepard was on the Citadel. That's just an assumption. So when Shepard reaches the beam, Hacket sends in the Crucible.WandySilva wrote...
but if the theory is true, the crucible still hasnt made contact with the citadelSimon_Says wrote...
There's precedent for it though. The geth concensus had Shepard performing symbolic action in the dreamworld that affected things in meatspace. Also, if the reapers are having a two-way connection with Shepard, then it's possible to send destructive feedback to whatever's on the other end, as was done by killing Sarenbot.Chriz Tah Fah wrote...
I would be very angry if we got a "cop out" response stating that Shepard activated the Crucible WITH HIS MIND and then woke up in the aftermath.
Modifié par Simon_Says, 16 juillet 2012 - 05:09 .
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