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[HellishFiend]

Rosewind wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

OMFG You don't know who Urz is... he the varran on Tuchunnka in ME2 that you could pet and stuff think you could bet on him in the fighting game to can't remember there was something else involving him besides petting.

Rose, are you sure you're not the source of Scale Itch?

Ha Ha...

Oh...That's nasty... /Garrus

Modifié par HellishFiend, 16 juillet 2012 - 07:54 .

[masster blaster]

DJBare wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Rosewind wrote...
OMG I just thought of something.... What ever happened to Urz....

Who?

Urz the friendly varren. You meet him on Tuchanka in 2.

Well Urz could die in ME2, but ya I wish that was the dog we should have got on the Normandy.

Hell yeah, at least it would have been more interesting, robomutt, well what can I say, Shepard says "Nice dog"; it's a robomutt!, I at least expected a bit more from it, like perhaps following Shepard around the ship, maybe even tell it to wait in the cabin.

Yes and it was kind of a let down that the Robo dog did nothing, but walk around the Normandy.

[memorysquid]

Big G13 wrote...

memorysquid wrote...

I refuse to accept that the ending was so bad it justifies approaching 2000 pages of posts on a theory that had little supporting evidence to begin with and was completely destroyed by the EC. Let's exercise a little self-control, people.

2000 pages? More like 4000 pages thank you very much. Don't forget, there was another thread before this one.

Ahh good point!  Oh well, evidently, I was just too subtle for my own good.  I thought writing refuse, destroy and control in order would be a tip off to my blatant troll.

[Chriz Tah Fah]

What doesn't make sense to me is this. How would having more ships/support/forces change how destructive the crucible blast is? They don't directly have an effect on each other. As a matter of fact they don't correlate at all. This is another reason why I like the IT. Shepard is just imagining what is happening at the end. If you have strong forces Shepard believes they all survived. If you have little support then Shepard is less hopeful and assumes everything is destroyed.

My thoughts didn't exactly copy down into text so well but most of you probably get my meaning.

Edit @paxxton.
How do you know that it isn't Tobi who has the same avatar as me ?

jk, Tobi has definitely been around the BSN forums longer than me. It's probably because we both like Tali.

Modifié par Chriz Tah Fah, 16 juillet 2012 - 08:00 .

[paxxton]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Guys what I like about both Stargazer scene is that they the child always says " Tell me another story about the Shepard." and then the Stargazers say " It's getting late, but okay. ONE MORE STORY"

I take that as a hint that the Shepard story is far from over.

I really don't know what to think. There are 2 contradicting messages out there. One from BioWare that Shepard's story arc is coming to an end in Mass Effect 3. The other from Stargazer that there's going to be another story involving Shepard as the main protagonist. Personally, I think it would be incredibly unwise to end a story that earns real dollars and is by no means over for the majority of players.

I agree that abandoning Shepard's story would be unwise from a corporate standpoint. However after the reapers are done in ME3, what other BIGGER threat could possibly be faced? There obviously has to be an antagonist acting against Shepard but it would be hard to make that antagonist a small fry. From ME1 through ME3 the antagonists and the main enemy have progressively been more deadly (reapers).

To make a story about Shepard set in the future but having it be against a smaller enemy wouldn't keep this trend. At this point, if Shepard does bring down the reapers she would have all the political and military backing she needs for any mission. Making the enemy any smaller than the collectors would be almost a non-fight. However, for an enemy to be STRONGER than the reapers (lolwut?) the galaxy would need to have recovered a bit and regained their forces making the story be put a little farther in the future where Shepard is no longer in his/her prime (not that this is much of a problem). If this stronger enemy came before the galaxy has fully recovered then Bioware better have a REALLY good plan.

I would pay to see it but it wouldn't make too much sense that we haven't heard about this enemy yet.

The Reapers aren't done in ME3, that's almost for sure. On the other hand, a bigger enemy could be the masters of the Reapers (hinted on by Vendetta on Thessia). Maybe we could finally visit dark space and other galaxies. I'd love to see where the Reapers live!

[smokingotter1]

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Guys what I like about both Stargazer scene is that they the child always says " Tell me another story about the Shepard." and then the Stargazers say " It's getting late, but okay. ONE MORE STORY"

I take that as a hint that the Shepard story is far from over.

I really don't know what to think. There are 2 contradicting messages out there. One from BioWare that Shepard's story arc is coming to an end in Mass Effect 3. The other from Stargazer that there's going to be another story involving Shepard as the main protagonist. Personally, I think it would be incredibly unwise to end a story that earns real dollars and is by no means over for the majority of players.

The only way to reconcile the contridictory messages in my mind is that the breathe scene happens before the crucible fires and there there is a lot missing inbetween the breathe/indoctrination hallucination and what is happening in space with the crucible.

I doubt highly that the crucible would be activated by shooting at a tube, but somehow someone was able to really activate the crucible.

Stargazer did say some of the details were lost, so one more story could fill in some of the details.

[UltimateTobi]

What I find funny is, that when trolls enter this thread, you try as hard as you can to defend the IT. Yet, when they leave, you begin the off-topicness big time, saying in the same breath that you should stop with it because it might get the thread locked. I find that ironic.

I saw it multiple times, masster for example stated something/wanted an answer, got ignored; or eventually answered 10-20 pages later.

[paxxton]

smokingotter1 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Guys what I like about both Stargazer scene is that they the child always says " Tell me another story about the Shepard." and then the Stargazers say " It's getting late, but okay. ONE MORE STORY"

I take that as a hint that the Shepard story is far from over.

I really don't know what to think. There are 2 contradicting messages out there. One from BioWare that Shepard's story arc is coming to an end in Mass Effect 3. The other from Stargazer that there's going to be another story involving Shepard as the main protagonist. Personally, I think it would be incredibly unwise to end a story that earns real dollars and is by no means over for the majority of players.

The only way to reconcile the contridictory messages in my mind is that the breathe scene happens before the crucible fires and there there is a lot missing inbetween the breathe/indoctrination hallucination and what is happening in space with the crucible.

I doubt highly that the crucible would be activated by shooting at a tube, but somehow someone was able to really activate the crucible.

Stargazer did say some of the details were lost, so one more story could fill in some of the details.

Yeah, but if the details are lost the Stargazer doesn't have them and unless he makes up a story he can't tell them to the child.  The breath scene happens after all the slideshows are played so it wasn't real.

[zigamortis]

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Guys what I like about both Stargazer scene is that they the child always says " Tell me another story about the Shepard." and then the Stargazers say " It's getting late, but okay. ONE MORE STORY"

I take that as a hint that the Shepard story is far from over.

I really don't know what to think. There are 2 contradicting messages out there. One from BioWare that Shepard's story arc is coming to an end in Mass Effect 3. The other from Stargazer that there's going to be another story involving Shepard as the main protagonist. Personally, I think it would be incredibly unwise to end a story that earns real dollars and is by no means over for the majority of players.

Idk i think i would actualy perfer for shepard to take the role of mentor as opposed to protagonist.

[masster blaster]

smokingotter1 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Guys what I like about both Stargazer scene is that they the child always says " Tell me another story about the Shepard." and then the Stargazers say " It's getting late, but okay. ONE MORE STORY"

I take that as a hint that the Shepard story is far from over.

I really don't know what to think. There are 2 contradicting messages out there. One from BioWare that Shepard's story arc is coming to an end in Mass Effect 3. The other from Stargazer that there's going to be another story involving Shepard as the main protagonist. Personally, I think it would be incredibly unwise to end a story that earns real dollars and is by no means over for the majority of players.

The only way to reconcile the contridictory messages in my mind is that the breathe scene happens before the crucible fires and there there is a lot missing inbetween the breathe/indoctrination hallucination and what is happening in space with the crucible.

I doubt highly that the crucible would be activated by shooting at a tube, but somehow someone was able to really activate the crucible.

Stargazer did say some of the details were lost, so one more story could fill in some of the details.

notice that in all the Stargazer scenes they say nothing about the Reapers, at all. Not even in Control and Synthesis. Since it all can't be a Legeand, if the Reapers are still around, so I think that either Destroy, or Refues option is the Real ending. Since the child, and the Stargazer, are not glowing in the scene, and in Control they don't even mention the " REAPERS". So ?

[paxxton]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Edit @paxxton.
How do you know that it isn't Tobi who has the same avatar as me ?

jk, Tobi has definitely been around the BSN forums longer than me. It's probably because we both like Tali.

Who doesn't like Tali? Her crying after the quarians were annihilated still haunts me to this day.  And then she jumps off the cliff.

[paxxton]

zigamortis wrote...

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Guys what I like about both Stargazer scene is that they the child always says " Tell me another story about the Shepard." and then the Stargazers say " It's getting late, but okay. ONE MORE STORY"

I take that as a hint that the Shepard story is far from over.

I really don't know what to think. There are 2 contradicting messages out there. One from BioWare that Shepard's story arc is coming to an end in Mass Effect 3. The other from Stargazer that there's going to be another story involving Shepard as the main protagonist. Personally, I think it would be incredibly unwise to end a story that earns real dollars and is by no means over for the majority of players.

Idk i think i would actualy perfer for shepard to take the role of mentor as opposed to protagonist.

Retirement at the age of 30 something. C'mon, someone has to work.

[masster blaster]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

What doesn't make sense to me is this. How would having more ships/support/forces change how destructive the crucible blast is? They don't directly have an effect on each other. As a matter of fact they don't correlate at all. This is another reason why I like the IT. Shepard is just imagining what is happening at the end. If you have strong forces Shepard believes they all survived. If you have little support then Shepard is less hopeful and assumes everything is destroyed.

My thoughts didn't exactly copy down into text so well but most of you probably get my meaning.

Edit @paxxton.
How do you know that it isn't Tobi who has the same avatar as me ?

jk, Tobi has definitely been around the BSN forums longer than me. It's probably because we both like Tali.

Yes and notice the Crucible turns off in the Reject/Refuse ending. How I did not see it explode, or even see it get under attacked. Also what if you have high support, and EMS. Does that even stop the Reapers from destroying the Crucible?

[FellishBeast]

masster blaster wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Guys what I like about both Stargazer scene is that they the child always says " Tell me another story about the Shepard." and then the Stargazers say " It's getting late, but okay. ONE MORE STORY"

I take that as a hint that the Shepard story is far from over.

I really don't know what to think. There are 2 contradicting messages out there. One from BioWare that Shepard's story arc is coming to an end in Mass Effect 3. The other from Stargazer that there's going to be another story involving Shepard as the main protagonist. Personally, I think it would be incredibly unwise to end a story that earns real dollars and is by no means over for the majority of players.

The only way to reconcile the contridictory messages in my mind is that the breathe scene happens before the crucible fires and there there is a lot missing inbetween the breathe/indoctrination hallucination and what is happening in space with the crucible.

I doubt highly that the crucible would be activated by shooting at a tube, but somehow someone was able to really activate the crucible.

Stargazer did say some of the details were lost, so one more story could fill in some of the details.

notice that in all the Stargazer scenes they say nothing about the Reapers, at all. Not even in Control and Synthesis. Since it all can't be a Legeand, if the Reapers are still around, so I think that either Destroy, or Refues option is the Real ending. Since the child, and the Stargazer, are not glowing in the scene, and in Control they don't even mention the " REAPERS". So ?

Yes, they do. The whole game was a story being told to the child. So all of the Reapers we saw were the old man "mentioning" the Reapers. How their way of life came about is the legend. Just like we know the pyramids are there, but we aren't certain how they were built and such. The pyramids are obviously not a legend, but how they were built is. Do you get what I mean?

Also, I don't like that you changed your picture.

[smokingotter1]

paxxton wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Guys what I like about both Stargazer scene is that they the child always says " Tell me another story about the Shepard." and then the Stargazers say " It's getting late, but okay. ONE MORE STORY"

I take that as a hint that the Shepard story is far from over.

I really don't know what to think. There are 2 contradicting messages out there. One from BioWare that Shepard's story arc is coming to an end in Mass Effect 3. The other from Stargazer that there's going to be another story involving Shepard as the main protagonist. Personally, I think it would be incredibly unwise to end a story that earns real dollars and is by no means over for the majority of players.

The only way to reconcile the contridictory messages in my mind is that the breathe scene happens before the crucible fires and there there is a lot missing inbetween the breathe/indoctrination hallucination and what is happening in space with the crucible.

I doubt highly that the crucible would be activated by shooting at a tube, but somehow someone was able to really activate the crucible.

Stargazer did say some of the details were lost, so one more story could fill in some of the details.

Yeah, but if the details are lost the Stargazer doesn't have them and unless he makes up a story he can't tell them to the child.  The breath scene happens after all the slideshows are played so it wasn't real.

There is no rule against Stargazer BSing the kid.
Child: "Grandpa how the f*ck does Shepard activate the crucible? What happens after the breathe scene? Was the breathe scene before or after the crucible fires? Grandpa are you drunk?"
Grandpa: "Ok.. *hic* one more story, but first Grandpa needs his inspiration juice *hic* *glug* *glug* *glug*"

[TSA_383]

UltimateTobi wrote...

What I find funny is, that when trolls enter this thread, you try as hard as you can to defend the IT. Yet, when they leave, you begin the off-topicness big time, saying in the same breath that you should stop with it because it might get the thread locked. I find that ironic.

I saw it multiple times, masster for example stated something/wanted an answer, got ignored; or eventually answered 10-20 pages later.

This.
This thread is about the indoctrination theory, and yet when remotely interesting stuff gets posted it's drowned in other chat.

Fair enough when nothing's going on, but at least look at the posts in question.

UltimateTobi wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

byne wrote...

So, what have I missed in the last day?

Also,
I'm currently talking to you guys from an airplane, which I think makes
me the first person to post in this thread from 10,000+ feet in the
air.

I always take my smartphone with me when I'm skydiving - I could try to be the first ITer to post in freefall [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

However I think if Arian posted at all in that time I'd impact the ground whilst scrolling [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

By
the way, for the sake of speculation over the breath scene, I've turned
up the brightness and taken out some of the noisiness due to the
particle effects.
The video has a very high bitrate in order to preserve stuff, but if you want to download it's here:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/9151i1

There's
metal/steel visible in the video. You can see it shining while the
camera moves. From round about 0:05-0:09. You see the
gloss-effect.

Edit: I actually just wanted to know if this is well known, or of no matter. (I am NOT talking about rebar.)

The background (vehicle?)? Yeah, like I was saying earlier, to me it looks like this:

(Beware low quality model from beam run)

Only problem with that is I don't see wheels...

[KJSync]

paxxton wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Edit @paxxton.
How do you know that it isn't Tobi who has the same avatar as me ?

jk, Tobi has definitely been around the BSN forums longer than me. It's probably because we both like Tali.

Who doesn't like Tali? Her crying after the quarians were annihilated still haunts me to this day.  And then she jumps off the cliff.

How dare you? 

[FellishBeast]

The stargazer does imply there is another story...but if the end is the end, then he would be telling a random story from the middle, which doesn't really make sense. But I've come to expect things that don't make sense from BioWare now! xD

[masster blaster]

FellishBeast wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Guys what I like about both Stargazer scene is that they the child always says " Tell me another story about the Shepard." and then the Stargazers say " It's getting late, but okay. ONE MORE STORY"

I take that as a hint that the Shepard story is far from over.

I really don't know what to think. There are 2 contradicting messages out there. One from BioWare that Shepard's story arc is coming to an end in Mass Effect 3. The other from Stargazer that there's going to be another story involving Shepard as the main protagonist. Personally, I think it would be incredibly unwise to end a story that earns real dollars and is by no means over for the majority of players.

The only way to reconcile the contridictory messages in my mind is that the breathe scene happens before the crucible fires and there there is a lot missing inbetween the breathe/indoctrination hallucination and what is happening in space with the crucible.

I doubt highly that the crucible would be activated by shooting at a tube, but somehow someone was able to really activate the crucible.

Stargazer did say some of the details were lost, so one more story could fill in some of the details.

notice that in all the Stargazer scenes they say nothing about the Reapers, at all. Not even in Control and Synthesis. Since it all can't be a Legeand, if the Reapers are still around, so I think that either Destroy, or Refues option is the Real ending. Since the child, and the Stargazer, are not glowing in the scene, and in Control they don't even mention the " REAPERS". So ?

Yes, they do. The whole game was a story being told to the child. So all of the Reapers we saw were the old man "mentioning" the Reapers. How their way of life came about is the legend. Just like we know the pyramids are there, but we aren't certain how they were built and such. The pyramids are obviously not a legend, but how they were built is. Do you get what I mean?

Also, I don't like that you changed your picture.

Yer I get what you mean, but Synthesis makes no sense in the Stargazer scene, because it could have not been a Legend if the Reaeprs are still around, which they are in Destroy, and why not have EDI been the Stargazer, IF She can live forever? Also they said about immortality in Synthesis, so ya EDi should still be there, and the Geth too, but they are not.


Also ya I kind of starting to hate my avatar, but it's Hackett.

Modifié par masster blaster, 16 juillet 2012 - 08:17 .

[MaximizedAction]

paxxton wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Edit @paxxton.
How do you know that it isn't Tobi who has the same avatar as me ?

jk, Tobi has definitely been around the BSN forums longer than me. It's probably because we both like Tali.

Who doesn't like Tali? Her crying after the quarians were annihilated still haunts me to this day.  And then she jumps off the cliff.

Yeah, happened to me, too. Wanted to go on my knees and screem "What have I done!"

But that consequences for ya! Gotta live with them...at least until the next playthrough.

[paxxton]

Brazukka wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Edit @paxxton.
How do you know that it isn't Tobi who has the same avatar as me ?

jk, Tobi has definitely been around the BSN forums longer than me. It's probably because we both like Tali.

Who doesn't like Tali? Her crying after the quarians were annihilated still haunts me to this day.  And then she jumps off the cliff.

How dare you? 

It was an unfortunate accident. I miscalculated the chance for peace.

[masster blaster]

FellishBeast wrote...

The stargazer does imply there is another story...but if the end is the end, then he would be telling a random story from the middle, which doesn't really make sense. But I've come to expect things that don't make sense from BioWare now! xD

But the child ask for another story about "THE SHEPARD", and he, or she says " It's getting late, but okay. ONE MORE STORY."  Which could mean, that Shepard's story is not done yet.

[FellishBeast]

UltimateTobi wrote...

What I find funny is, that when trolls enter this thread, you try as hard as you can to defend the IT. Yet, when they leave, you begin the off-topicness big time, saying in the same breath that you should stop with it because it might get the thread locked. I find that ironic.

I saw it multiple times, masster for example stated something/wanted an answer, got ignored; or eventually answered 10-20 pages later.

Using masster is a poor example, as his posts are unintelligible much of the time. He has good points, though.

[Dwailing]

masster blaster wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

The stargazer does imply there is another story...but if the end is the end, then he would be telling a random story from the middle, which doesn't really make sense. But I've come to expect things that don't make sense from BioWare now! xD

But the child ask for another story about "THE SHEPARD", and he, or she says " It's getting late, but okay. ONE MORE STORY."  Which could mean, that Shepard's story is not done yet.

Yeah, there's more to come.

[smokingotter1]

Another thing that bothers me, why is stargazer telling the story of Mass Effect to a child?

Child: "tell me another story about the Shepard"
Stargazer:
"Let me tell you about Jacob's father..."
"Let me tell you about what the collectors do to humans...."
"Let's discuss what the reapers do to organics"
"So the conduit took Shepard into a hallway full of corpses"
"Let me tell you the story of Miranda's skin tight suit"
"... and than Garrus held Shepard passionately, and then the chaffing began"
"and '****' said Jack again and again, 'Cerberus Cheerleader ****' she yelled at Miranda"
"and that is how banshees are made"