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[FreddyCast]

Hey guys, Remember the the mass relay explosions and how it doesn't start in the Sol system. Someone said that the reason the initial blast starts in a different location and not the Sol system is because we never really see which Relay the Crucible blast hits, we just see it hitting A mass relay and not the Sol Mass Relay since we don't see a planet next to it in the cutscene.
Is there anyway to be sure that what the Crucible hit was the Sol Mass Relay and not some random Mass relay?

[lex0r11]

To fast, nevermind.

Modifié par lex0r11, 17 juillet 2012 - 09:15 .

[munnellyladt]

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, Remember the the mass relay explosions and how it doesn't start in the Sol system. Someone said that the reason the initial blast starts in a different location and not the Sol system is because we never really see which Relay the Crucible blast hits, we just see it hitting A mass relay and not the Sol Mass Relay since we don't see a planet next to it in the cutscene.
Is there anyway to be sure that what the Crucible hit was the Sol Mass Relay and not some random Mass relay?

Well that system is supposed to be the system from arrival,so there shouldn't be a relay at all.

[FellishBeast]

munnellyladt wrote...

OMG!

I saved 1 million creds for this stupid dlc and didn't get one class or gun from the dlc.

I'm seriously pissed.

Did you download the DLC? I got tons and I had less than a million.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Anyway with that wall poster i am heading to bed, hope you guys have some fun with it.

[munnellyladt]

FellishBeast wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

OMG!

I saved 1 million creds for this stupid dlc and didn't get one class or gun from the dlc.

I'm seriously pissed.

Did you download the DLC? I got tons and I had less than a million.

Obiously i did,And you got tons?God damn it,but just a while ago i unlocked the typhoon.

I haven't used it yet so i have to ask;is it any good?

[masster blaster]

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

Oh god. Got to wave 8 of a platinum match. That was ****ing insanity. Two geth primes approaching from one direction, two banshees approaching from the other direction, and an atlas with two phantoms approaching from yet another direction.

Platinum is crazy.

Crazy... awesome, right?  Anyway, I had a thought about the trailer.  It showed Big Ben being destroyed, and it looked like the Destroy wave was responsible.  I don't know if this means anything, but is it possible BioWare is hinting that Big Ben was destroyed already, and it's presense in the end sequence is weird?  Also, I thought the other trailer with Coats showed Big Ben being destroyed.

that's true it Big Ben was destroyed in the trailer, and Coats was traped in Big Ben when it came down on him.

Modifié par masster blaster, 17 juillet 2012 - 09:31 .

[Either.Ardrey]

@Raistlin Majare 1992: I just saved your Wall-of-text as a txt. I'm going to read it when I get home from work and Earth MP is downloading. Speculations await. Thank you.

Modifié par Either.Ardrey, 17 juillet 2012 - 09:33 .

[FreddyCast]

munnellyladt wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, Remember the the mass relay explosions and how it doesn't start in the Sol system. Someone said that the reason the initial blast starts in a different location and not the Sol system is because we never really see which Relay the Crucible blast hits, we just see it hitting A mass relay and not the Sol Mass Relay since we don't see a planet next to it in the cutscene.
Is there anyway to be sure that what the Crucible hit was the Sol Mass Relay and not some random Mass relay?

Well that system is supposed to be the system from arrival,so there shouldn't be a relay at all.

You are assuming that the initial relay blast is the Viper Nebula, which I don't beieve it is, since it's clearly the Apien Crest. But I don't want to get into that debate.
I just want to know whether the Mass Relay we see exploding (Or the circular parts coming apart as we see in the EC) is the Sol System Relay, and not some random relay, whether it be the Viper Nebula, the Apien Crest, or whatever.
The argument from my previous post is from one who believes that the Mass Relay Explosions are not a plothole, but is real. As ITers, we believe it to be a plothole, as well as a hallucination within Shepard's mind. Is there a good explanation in defense of our position?

[BleedingUranium]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

*snipsnipsnipsnip*

Very well put together, I'd been hoping someone would talk in-depth about Vendetta's... strangeness

[Eryri]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

The Cycle Knowledge Problem

But let us move on to the second part of Vendetta´s statements, the cycle and how the Reapers are only a part of it and not the Masters. Question here is the same, how does he know?

Yes this is peculiar. The first time I played through this section I was actually quite intrigued by it. The impression I got from Vendetta was that he was talking about ancient cycles of destruction that may even have pre-dated the Reapers. 

I was thinking maybe this was forshadowing for an even more terrifying, quasi-demonic cosmic force behind the Reapers, something that really was "without beginning, without end" and that was inimical to all life.

The Reapers would be just its current manifestation. And this manifestation could be replaced by something else even more horrible if the Reapers were defeated. "Ooh, this is going to be good!" I thought to myself.

And then we got Mr Sparkles and that idea got shot down in flames.

EDIT: - but you are right, there's no reason for the Protheans to have postulated that there was anything else behind the Reapers, especially since they didn't know about the Reapers themselves until they attacked.

Modifié par Eryri, 17 juillet 2012 - 09:42 .

[masster blaster]

munnellyladt wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, Remember the the mass relay explosions and how it doesn't start in the Sol system. Someone said that the reason the initial blast starts in a different location and not the Sol system is because we never really see which Relay the Crucible blast hits, we just see it hitting A mass relay and not the Sol Mass Relay since we don't see a planet next to it in the cutscene.
Is there anyway to be sure that what the Crucible hit was the Sol Mass Relay and not some random Mass relay?

Well that system is supposed to be the system from arrival,so there shouldn't be a relay at all.

So you mean to say. Somebody said that it dose not start in the Sol System because it went to another relay. Really. The only relay that could go any where was destroyed by Shepard, or the Hacketts personal squad. Also um does that mean the the beam went all the way to teh edge of the galaxy, where the arrival took place. I don't by it.

[munnellyladt]

FreddyCast wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, Remember the the mass relay explosions and how it doesn't start in the Sol system. Someone said that the reason the initial blast starts in a different location and not the Sol system is because we never really see which Relay the Crucible blast hits, we just see it hitting A mass relay and not the Sol Mass Relay since we don't see a planet next to it in the cutscene.
Is there anyway to be sure that what the Crucible hit was the Sol Mass Relay and not some random Mass relay?

Well that system is supposed to be the system from arrival,so there shouldn't be a relay at all.

You are assuming that the initial relay blast is the Viper Nebula, which I don't beieve it is, since it's clearly the Apien Crest. But I don't want to get into that debate.
I just want to know whether the Mass Relay we see exploding (Or the circular parts coming apart as we see in the EC) is the Sol System Relay, and not some random relay, whether it be the Viper Nebula, the Apien Crest, or whatever.
The argument from my previous post is from one who believes that the Mass Relay Explosions are not a plothole, but is real. As ITers, we believe it to be a plothole, as well as a hallucination within Shepard's mind. Is there a good explanation in defense of our position?

Well i think the beam has to be kind of locked on to the closest relay because it has to travel to every relay to emit the destroy,synthesis or control beam in that nebula.

[BleedingUranium]

FreddyCast wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, Remember the the mass relay explosions and how it doesn't start in the Sol system. Someone said that the reason the initial blast starts in a different location and not the Sol system is because we never really see which Relay the Crucible blast hits, we just see it hitting A mass relay and not the Sol Mass Relay since we don't see a planet next to it in the cutscene.
Is there anyway to be sure that what the Crucible hit was the Sol Mass Relay and not some random Mass relay?

Well that system is supposed to be the system from arrival,so there shouldn't be a relay at all.

You are assuming that the initial relay blast is the Viper Nebula, which I don't beieve it is, since it's clearly the Apien Crest. But I don't want to get into that debate.
I just want to know whether the Mass Relay we see exploding (Or the circular parts coming apart as we see in the EC) is the Sol System Relay, and not some random relay, whether it be the Viper Nebula, the Apien Crest, or whatever.
The argument from my previous post is from one who believes that the Mass Relay Explosions are not a plothole, but is real. As ITers, we believe it to be a plothole, as well as a hallucination within Shepard's mind. Is there a good explanation in defense of our position?

Well, since the beam must be travelling below the speed of light, I don't see how it could realistically be any other relay...

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Eryri wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

The Cycle Knowledge Problem

But let us move on to the second part of Vendetta´s statements, the cycle and how the Reapers are only a part of it and not the Masters. Question here is the same, how does he know?

Yes this is peculiar. The first time I played through this section I was actually quite intrigued by it. The impression I got from Vendetta was that he was talking about ancient cycles of destruction that may even have pre-dated the Reapers. 

I was thinking maybe this was forshadowing for an even more terrifying, quasi-demonic cosmic force behind the Reapers, something that really was "without beginning, without end" and that was inimical to all life.

The Reapers would be just its current manifestation. And this manifestation could be replaced by something else even more horrible if the Reapers were defeated. "Ooh, this is going to be good!" I thought to myself.

And then we got Mr Sparkles and that idea got shot down in flames.

Oh right forgot to add this little part to that bit:

On this part I should add that Liara in Mass Effect 1 mentions that: "There is little left behind by the Protheans and next to nothing on those who came before." A good guess is that this is the same for every cycle meaning knowledge on the past cycles would be sparse for the Protheans to work with in this regard.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 17 juillet 2012 - 09:41 .

[KJSync]

FellishBeast wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

OMG!

I saved 1 million creds for this stupid dlc and didn't get one class or gun from the dlc.

I'm seriously pissed.

Did you download the DLC? I got tons and I had less than a million.

I got fury adept with a Veteran Pack. It's a matter of luck

[byne]

Stupid Premium Spectre Packs. I'm thinking to myself "I really really want a Paladin!" and it gives me a Paladin pistol.

YOU KNOW THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT, PREMIUM SPECTRE PACK!

[munnellyladt]

Brazukka wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

OMG!

I saved 1 million creds for this stupid dlc and didn't get one class or gun from the dlc.

I'm seriously pissed.

Did you download the DLC? I got tons and I had less than a million.

I got fury adept with a Veteran Pack. It's a matter of luck

WHAT?!?

This is bull****!

[BleedingUranium]

Brazukka wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

OMG!

I saved 1 million creds for this stupid dlc and didn't get one class or gun from the dlc.

I'm seriously pissed.

Did you download the DLC? I got tons and I had less than a million.

I got fury adept with a Veteran Pack. It's a matter of luck

Also, the more stuff you have and have finished beforehand, the more new stuff you'll get

[BleedingUranium]

byne wrote...

Stupid Premium Spectre Packs. I'm thinking to myself "I really really want a Paladin!" and it gives me a Paladin pistol.

YOU KNOW THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT, PREMIUM SPECTRE PACK!

I'll take it if you don't want it

[FreddyCast]

BleedingUranium wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, Remember the the mass relay explosions and how it doesn't start in the Sol system. Someone said that the reason the initial blast starts in a different location and not the Sol system is because we never really see which Relay the Crucible blast hits, we just see it hitting A mass relay and not the Sol Mass Relay since we don't see a planet next to it in the cutscene.
Is there anyway to be sure that what the Crucible hit was the Sol Mass Relay and not some random Mass relay?

Well that system is supposed to be the system from arrival,so there shouldn't be a relay at all.

You are assuming that the initial relay blast is the Viper Nebula, which I don't beieve it is, since it's clearly the Apien Crest. But I don't want to get into that debate.
I just want to know whether the Mass Relay we see exploding (Or the circular parts coming apart as we see in the EC) is the Sol System Relay, and not some random relay, whether it be the Viper Nebula, the Apien Crest, or whatever.
The argument from my previous post is from one who believes that the Mass Relay Explosions are not a plothole, but is real. As ITers, we believe it to be a plothole, as well as a hallucination within Shepard's mind. Is there a good explanation in defense of our position?

Well, since the beam must be travelling below the speed of light, I don't see how it could realistically be any other relay...

Crucible beam, at leaet to me, seems to be going faster than the speed of light when you see the entire Galaxy and how fast the beam is moving from relay to relay. Things going at the speed of light would take some time to reach the entire Galaxy.

[masster blaster]

Okay guys I wanted to say what about the helmet we find in the low Destroy ending. I mean the marine that we see is the same one that was trying to help his friend, or marine buddy.Yet in the low Destroy ending the marine with the helmet is dead, and the none helmet guy pulls out the marine's bullet holed helmet.

Yet in the high Destroy ending, we see the Marine with the non hat, help the guy with the helmet up, and they are both ready to die, well the guy who is firing is. But they are about to be taken down by husk, when the evaporate by the Red beam of light.

Yet when in Control, or Synthesis the marine that is hurt cowers in fear, while his friends is being attacked, and it's funny that only Control, and Synthesis have the same scene, yet different explosions, and affects.

[munnellyladt]

FreddyCast wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, Remember the the mass relay explosions and how it doesn't start in the Sol system. Someone said that the reason the initial blast starts in a different location and not the Sol system is because we never really see which Relay the Crucible blast hits, we just see it hitting A mass relay and not the Sol Mass Relay since we don't see a planet next to it in the cutscene.
Is there anyway to be sure that what the Crucible hit was the Sol Mass Relay and not some random Mass relay?

Well that system is supposed to be the system from arrival,so there shouldn't be a relay at all.

You are assuming that the initial relay blast is the Viper Nebula, which I don't beieve it is, since it's clearly the Apien Crest. But I don't want to get into that debate.
I just want to know whether the Mass Relay we see exploding (Or the circular parts coming apart as we see in the EC) is the Sol System Relay, and not some random relay, whether it be the Viper Nebula, the Apien Crest, or whatever.
The argument from my previous post is from one who believes that the Mass Relay Explosions are not a plothole, but is real. As ITers, we believe it to be a plothole, as well as a hallucination within Shepard's mind. Is there a good explanation in defense of our position?

Well, since the beam must be travelling below the speed of light, I don't see how it could realistically be any other relay...

Crucible beam, at leaet to me, seems to be going faster than the speed of light when you see the entire Galaxy and how fast the beam is moving from relay to relay. Things going at the speed of light would take some time to reach the entire Galaxy.

It uses the mass relay system to go that fast,so i dont think it could get to a relay other than the sol relay that fast.

[FreddyCast]

munnellyladt wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, Remember the the mass relay explosions and how it doesn't start in the Sol system. Someone said that the reason the initial blast starts in a different location and not the Sol system is because we never really see which Relay the Crucible blast hits, we just see it hitting A mass relay and not the Sol Mass Relay since we don't see a planet next to it in the cutscene.
Is there anyway to be sure that what the Crucible hit was the Sol Mass Relay and not some random Mass relay?

Well that system is supposed to be the system from arrival,so there shouldn't be a relay at all.

You are assuming that the initial relay blast is the Viper Nebula, which I don't beieve it is, since it's clearly the Apien Crest. But I don't want to get into that debate.
I just want to know whether the Mass Relay we see exploding (Or the circular parts coming apart as we see in the EC) is the Sol System Relay, and not some random relay, whether it be the Viper Nebula, the Apien Crest, or whatever.
The argument from my previous post is from one who believes that the Mass Relay Explosions are not a plothole, but is real. As ITers, we believe it to be a plothole, as well as a hallucination within Shepard's mind. Is there a good explanation in defense of our position?

Well i think the beam has to be kind of locked on to the closest relay because it has to travel to every relay to emit the destroy,synthesis or control beam in that nebula.

That is my initial thought, if only we have something to back it up. Otherwise, we have a good explanation without no proof. Of course, the Anti-IT argument, which is logical, has no proof for his argument either.

[Eryri]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...


On this part I should add that Liara in Mass Effect 1 mentions that: "There is little left behind by the Protheans and next to nothing on those who came before." A good guess is that this is the same for every cycle meaning knowledge on the past cycles would be sparse for the Protheans to work with in this regard.

Yes you're right. The Protheans had no knowledge of the Reapers before they turned up, and discovered nothing much about them after they arrived, so why would they start postulating theories that there might be something behind them?