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[maxloef]

Icinix wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

prettz wrote...

hears a short video of some strange sounds I noticed at end game.
www.youtube.com/watch

The ending is becoming creepy.

To me it's becoming the best ending a player can get:

The Good Guy Ending:
Forces the player to ask questions,

offers interesting answers.

Indeed.

It Indoctrinates players to keep coming back to these darn forums and replay the ending with fly cam a squillion times and carefully check every corner of the game three times, then twice with high contrast....

..wait...

Did you guys notice that when SHepard grabbed the controls the same sound from the breath scene can be heared!?

could the person that made this also make one for the destroy ending?

[BleedingUranium]

I really don't think the reapers are as awesome as everyone says they are, battle wise. Both in universe and by most fans.

Everyone likes to use the Rannoch reaper as an example of how tough they are, but really, that's a terrible example. The fleet was shooting from space, and trying to hit just the eye of the destroyer. Why to you think it has to cover that with armour? Yeah. Most of the shots were hitting the armour anyway. We havn't seen enough battles with Sovereign-class reapers to really say how good they are in a fight. Actually, we know a lot more about them from the codex, codex entries about battles, and emails about battles, and those sources say they're not as hard to beat as we think.

-As per standard super evil forces, they either think they're super awesome, or just scare everyone by telling them that.
-They need to trick, indoctrinate, and control people to either help them, sabotage people fighting them, or just do nothing.
-They need armies and armies of zobified organics
-They start, or at least, encourage synthetics to rebel
-They cut off all transport by stopping the use of mass relays
-They kill the heads of the whole galaxy in one go, right away, so no one can fight back properly

Sure they're tough, and smart, but they pretend they're way better and more powerful than they really are. "I am the vanguard of your destruction" is a pretty cool line, but seriously, reapers are full of ****, always have been.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 23 mai 2012 - 10:13 .

[MegumiAzusa]

HellishFiend wrote...

Thomasrifkins wrote...

Dracorequiem wrote...

Dracorequiem wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

prettz wrote...

hears a short video of some strange sounds I noticed at end game.
www.youtube.com/watch

Nice! Can any people knowledgable about music determine what notes those chimes are at the beginning of that vid? Could potentially be a clue. 

no joke, the chime notes are A, B, C.

My mind = blown to smithereeens. It's like inception and they're trying desperately to tell us how terrible the literal ending is.

ah nvm just doublechecked it's ACE. i just wanted to believe the other

Neither, I get D E G

So its D E G then? Anyone able to speculate what that might mean? I got nothing. Perhaps it's meaningless.

Maybe it's along the lines of this?

[Icinix]

BleedingUranium wrote...

I really don't think the reapers are as awesome as everyone says they are, battle wise. Both in universe and by most fans.

Everyone likes to use the Rannoch reaper as an example of how tough they are, but really, that's a terrible example. The fleet was shooting from space, and trying to hit just the eye of the destroyer. Why to you think it has to cover that with armour? Yeah. Most of the shots were hitting the armour anyway. We havn't seen enough battles with Sovereign-class reapers to really say how good they are in a fight. Actually, we know a lot more about them from the codex, codex entries about battles, and emails about battles, and those sources say they're not as hard to beat as we think.

-As per standard super evil forces, they either think they're super awesome, or just scare everyone by telling them that.
-They need to trick, indoctrinate, and control people to either help them, sabotage people fighting them, or just do nothing.
-They need armies and armies of zobified organics
-They start, or at least, encourage synthetics to rebel
-They cut off all transport by stopping the use of mass relays
-They kill the heads of the whole galaxy in one go, right away, so no one can fight back properly

Sure they're tough, and smart, but they pretend they're way better and more powerful than they really are. "I am the vanguard of your destruction" is a pretty cool line, but seriously, reapers are full of ****, always have been.

There is some good codex entries about the Turians getting some great victories before they started losing on sheer weight of numbers.

[BleedingUranium]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Thomasrifkins wrote...

Dracorequiem wrote...

Dracorequiem wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

prettz wrote...

hears a short video of some strange sounds I noticed at end game.
www.youtube.com/watch

Nice! Can any people knowledgable about music determine what notes those chimes are at the beginning of that vid? Could potentially be a clue. 

no joke, the chime notes are A, B, C.

My mind = blown to smithereeens. It's like inception and they're trying desperately to tell us how terrible the literal ending is.

ah nvm just doublechecked it's ACE. i just wanted to believe the other

Neither, I get D E G

So its D E G then? Anyone able to speculate what that might mean? I got nothing. Perhaps it's meaningless.

Maybe it's along the lines of this?

Twas what I was thinking. That is one of the main reasons I almost never dismiss sounds and music hints and such.

[Big G13]

BleedingUranium wrote...

I really don't think the reapers are as awesome as everyone says they are, battle wise. Both in universe and by most fans.

Everyone likes to use the Rannoch reaper as an example of how tough they are, but really, that's a terrible example. The fleet was shooting from space, and trying to hit just the eye of the destroyer. Why to you think it has to cover that with armour? Yeah. Most of the shots were hitting the armour anyway. We havn't seen enough battles with Sovereign-class reapers to really say how good they are in a fight. Actually, we know a lot more about them from the codex, codex entries about battles, and emails about battles, and those sources say they're not as hard to beat as we think.

-As per standard super evil forces, they either think they're super awesome, or just scare everyone by telling them that.
-They need to trick, indoctrinate, and control people to either help them, sabotage people fighting them, or just do nothing.
-They need armies and armies of zobified organics
-They start, or at least, encourage synthetics to rebel
-They cut off all transport by stopping the use of mass relays
-They kill the heads of the whole galaxy in one go, right away, so no one can fight back properly

Sure they're tough, and smart, but they pretend they're way better and more powerful than they really are. "I am the vanguard of your destruction" is a pretty cool line, but seriously, reapers are full of ****, always have been.

YEAH!!!! What he/she said.

[MaximizedAction]

Big G13 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I really don't think the reapers are as awesome as everyone says they are, battle wise. Both in universe and by most fans.

Everyone likes to use the Rannoch reaper as an example of how tough they are, but really, that's a terrible example. The fleet was shooting from space, and trying to hit just the eye of the destroyer. Why to you think it has to cover that with armour? Yeah. Most of the shots were hitting the armour anyway. We havn't seen enough battles with Sovereign-class reapers to really say how good they are in a fight. Actually, we know a lot more about them from the codex, codex entries about battles, and emails about battles, and those sources say they're not as hard to beat as we think.

-As per standard super evil forces, they either think they're super awesome, or just scare everyone by telling them that.
-They need to trick, indoctrinate, and control people to either help them, sabotage people fighting them, or just do nothing.
-They need armies and armies of zobified organics
-They start, or at least, encourage synthetics to rebel
-They cut off all transport by stopping the use of mass relays
-They kill the heads of the whole galaxy in one go, right away, so no one can fight back properly

Sure they're tough, and smart, but they pretend they're way better and more powerful than they really are. "I am the vanguard of your destruction" is a pretty cool line, but seriously, reapers are full of ****, always have been.

YEAH!!!! What he/she said.

Yeah, man! Don't fear the Reaper!

[paxxton]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Maybe it's along the lines of this?

It's from ME1. When does it play in Mass Effect 3?

EDIT: Ah, yes. The main menu.

Modifié par paxxton, 23 mai 2012 - 10:27 .

[Rosewind]

Icinix wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

prettz wrote...

hears a short video of some strange sounds I noticed at end game.
www.youtube.com/watch

The ending is becoming creepy.

To me it's becoming the best ending a player can get:

The Good Guy Ending:
Forces the player to ask questions,

offers interesting answers.

Indeed.

It Indoctrinates players to keep coming back to these darn forums and replay the ending with fly cam a squillion times and carefully check every corner of the game three times, then twice with high contrast....

..wait...

Moment of clarity? lol

[OneWithTheAssassins]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

You mean like the sudden cliffhanger ending to "And End Once and For All"?

Yeah, it is curoius that such a beatiful melody and with that name would end on such a sudden and omnius (to say the least) note. It is almost like everything is not as perfect as the music wants you to beleive.

How much do you want to bet that Bioware has an atlernative version not released yet for the IT DLC that will play the same up until the ominus change in tune and will instead switch to the "classic" mass effect vicory theme?
It would fit very well.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Just thought of something in the middle of this entire debate concerning Eezo core overload ans such and something struck me. If the Crucible turns out to be a trap or trick in some way, could it be possible Shepard is forced to go directly for the core, that is, the core of the Citadel?

We have seen what happens when the Eezo core of a Mass Relay gets distrubted, not pretty. Imagine what the core of the Citadel, a Mass Relay vastly bigger than any other Relay would do if it overloaded...this could very well be a bad ending of sorts where Shepard is forced to sacrifice the entire sol system (and potentially the fleet if you cant warn them of) to annihilate most of the Reaper forces.

Maybe that is what the crucible is, a device for overloading the Citadel truning it into a unbelaibly powerful bomb? (I consider this unlikely as then the Reapers moving their forces and the Citadel to Earth would be a dumb move)

An interesting thought if you ask me, though probably only appliable for a bad ending of sorts.

[MegumiAzusa]

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Maybe it's along the lines of this?

It's from ME1. When did it play in Mass Effect 3?
EDIT: Ah, yes. The main menu.

Main menu, war room, after the Rannoch Reaper when Tali survives and mourns Legion, etc

[Icinix]

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

You mean like the sudden cliffhanger ending to "And End Once and For All"?

Yeah, it is curoius that such a beatiful melody and with that name would end on such a sudden and omnius (to say the least) note. It is almost like everything is not as perfect as the music wants you to beleive.

How much do you want to bet that Bioware has an atlernative version not released yet for the IT DLC that will play the same up until the ominus change in tune and will instead switch to the "classic" mass effect vicory theme?
It would fit very well.

I did think it was interesting they got mansell in to the musical ranks to only do a couple of pieces that end...ominously..to say the least.

I would not be surprised if something like this happened.

Hell one of the bonus tracks is called - Extra Betrayal.

[MegumiAzusa]

Icinix wrote...

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

You mean like the sudden cliffhanger ending to "And End Once and For All"?

Yeah, it is curoius that such a beatiful melody and with that name would end on such a sudden and omnius (to say the least) note. It is almost like everything is not as perfect as the music wants you to beleive.

How much do you want to bet that Bioware has an atlernative version not released yet for the IT DLC that will play the same up until the ominus change in tune and will instead switch to the "classic" mass effect vicory theme?
It would fit very well.

I did think it was interesting they got mansell in to the musical ranks to only do a couple of pieces that end...ominously..to say the least.

I would not be surprised if something like this happened.

Hell one of the bonus tracks is called - Extra Betrayal.

Betrayal plays if you shoot Mordin. Also note how similar Mordin reaching for the controls but can't is to Shep at the end.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 23 mai 2012 - 10:37 .

[MaximizedAction]

Icinix wrote...

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

You mean like the sudden cliffhanger ending to "And End Once and For All"?

Yeah, it is curoius that such a beatiful melody and with that name would end on such a sudden and omnius (to say the least) note. It is almost like everything is not as perfect as the music wants you to beleive.

How much do you want to bet that Bioware has an atlernative version not released yet for the IT DLC that will play the same up until the ominus change in tune and will instead switch to the "classic" mass effect vicory theme?
It would fit very well.

I did think it was interesting they got mansell in to the musical ranks to only do a couple of pieces that end...ominously..to say the least.

I would not be surprised if something like this happened.

Hell one of the bonus tracks is called - Extra Betrayal.

My doubts in ME3 began even before I saw the ending:
When I saw the tracklist and Mansell was ONLY responsible for "Leaving Earth"; yes, Hulick confirmed that Mansell was credited for "An End..." because it used the Leaving Earth theme.

And after finishing the ending (and seeing that the ME3 OST is yet to be announced on CD) and studying IT I thought:
Maybe the ME3 discs don't contain the whole game...

So it's all natural to question what we got.

Mansell must've done more tracks...

...or maybe not.

[paxxton]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Maybe it's along the lines of this?

It's from ME1. When did it play in Mass Effect 3?
EDIT: Ah, yes. The main menu.

Main menu, war room, after the Rannoch Reaper when Tali survives and mourns Legion, etc

Unfortunately, she usually jumps off the cliff.

Or this:

Modifié par paxxton, 23 mai 2012 - 10:39 .

[MegumiAzusa]

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Maybe it's along the lines of this?

It's from ME1. When did it play in Mass Effect 3?
EDIT: Ah, yes. The main menu.

Main menu, war room, after the Rannoch Reaper when Tali survives and mourns Legion, etc

Unfortunately, she usually jumps off the cliff.

Or this:

I still can't fathom why anyone would paint their armor in pink.

[paxxton]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Maybe it's along the lines of this?

It's from ME1. When did it play in Mass Effect 3?
EDIT: Ah, yes. The main menu.

Main menu, war room, after the Rannoch Reaper when Tali survives and mourns Legion, etc

Unfortunately, she usually jumps off the cliff.

Or this:

I still can't fathom why anyone would paint their armor in pink.

Neither do I but I guess it's a matter of taste.

[Icinix]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Icinix wrote...

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

You mean like the sudden cliffhanger ending to "And End Once and For All"?

Yeah, it is curoius that such a beatiful melody and with that name would end on such a sudden and omnius (to say the least) note. It is almost like everything is not as perfect as the music wants you to beleive.

How much do you want to bet that Bioware has an atlernative version not released yet for the IT DLC that will play the same up until the ominus change in tune and will instead switch to the "classic" mass effect vicory theme?
It would fit very well.

I did think it was interesting they got mansell in to the musical ranks to only do a couple of pieces that end...ominously..to say the least.

I would not be surprised if something like this happened.

Hell one of the bonus tracks is called - Extra Betrayal.

Betrayal plays if you shoot Mordin. Also note how similar Mordin reaching for the controls but can't is to Shep at the end.

Ahh - I have never done a game where I do that. I was also reading the track wrong - because I is having dumb moment.

Also - just watched the shooting mordin video. I never ever want to see that again 

[BleedingUranium]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Icinix wrote...

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

You mean like the sudden cliffhanger ending to "And End Once and For All"?

Yeah, it is curoius that such a beatiful melody and with that name would end on such a sudden and omnius (to say the least) note. It is almost like everything is not as perfect as the music wants you to beleive.

How much do you want to bet that Bioware has an atlernative version not released yet for the IT DLC that will play the same up until the ominus change in tune and will instead switch to the "classic" mass effect vicory theme?
It would fit very well.

I did think it was interesting they got mansell in to the musical ranks to only do a couple of pieces that end...ominously..to say the least.

I would not be surprised if something like this happened.

Hell one of the bonus tracks is called - Extra Betrayal.

Betrayal plays if you shoot Mordin. Also note how similar Mordin reaching for the controls but can't is to Shep at the end.

And the other way around, Mordin walking from the elevator to the panel is a lot like the destroy ending

[MegumiAzusa]

Icinix wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Icinix wrote...

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

You mean like the sudden cliffhanger ending to "And End Once and For All"?

Yeah, it is curoius that such a beatiful melody and with that name would end on such a sudden and omnius (to say the least) note. It is almost like everything is not as perfect as the music wants you to beleive.

How much do you want to bet that Bioware has an atlernative version not released yet for the IT DLC that will play the same up until the ominus change in tune and will instead switch to the "classic" mass effect vicory theme?
It would fit very well.

I did think it was interesting they got mansell in to the musical ranks to only do a couple of pieces that end...ominously..to say the least.

I would not be surprised if something like this happened.

Hell one of the bonus tracks is called - Extra Betrayal.

Betrayal plays if you shoot Mordin. Also note how similar Mordin reaching for the controls but can't is to Shep at the end.

Ahh - I have never done a game where I do that. I was also reading the track wrong - because I is having dumb moment.

Also - just watched the shooting mordin video. I never ever want to see that again 

Also only watched it on YT, and after the first time only for "scientific" reasons where I compare parts of the game (like for the Carnifex)

[Icinix]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Icinix wrote...

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

You mean like the sudden cliffhanger ending to "And End Once and For All"?

Yeah, it is curoius that such a beatiful melody and with that name would end on such a sudden and omnius (to say the least) note. It is almost like everything is not as perfect as the music wants you to beleive.

How much do you want to bet that Bioware has an atlernative version not released yet for the IT DLC that will play the same up until the ominus change in tune and will instead switch to the "classic" mass effect vicory theme?
It would fit very well.

I did think it was interesting they got mansell in to the musical ranks to only do a couple of pieces that end...ominously..to say the least.

I would not be surprised if something like this happened.

Hell one of the bonus tracks is called - Extra Betrayal.

My doubts in ME3 began even before I saw the ending:
When I saw the tracklist and Mansell was ONLY responsible for "Leaving Earth"; yes, Hulick confirmed that Mansell was credited for "An End..." because it used the Leaving Earth theme.

And after finishing the ending (and seeing that the ME3 OST is yet to be announced on CD) and studying IT I thought:
Maybe the ME3 discs don't contain the whole game...

So it's all natural to question what we got.

Mansell must've done more tracks...

...or maybe not.

Indeed.

Although on that, personally, I'd like it if he didn't - I love thr music he did, don't get me wrong. Its great listening music, but its not great game music.

[MaximizedAction]

Icinix wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Icinix wrote...

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

You mean like the sudden cliffhanger ending to "And End Once and For All"?

Yeah, it is curoius that such a beatiful melody and with that name would end on such a sudden and omnius (to say the least) note. It is almost like everything is not as perfect as the music wants you to beleive.

How much do you want to bet that Bioware has an atlernative version not released yet for the IT DLC that will play the same up until the ominus change in tune and will instead switch to the "classic" mass effect vicory theme?
It would fit very well.

I did think it was interesting they got mansell in to the musical ranks to only do a couple of pieces that end...ominously..to say the least.

I would not be surprised if something like this happened.

Hell one of the bonus tracks is called - Extra Betrayal.

My doubts in ME3 began even before I saw the ending:
When I saw the tracklist and Mansell was ONLY responsible for "Leaving Earth"; yes, Hulick confirmed that Mansell was credited for "An End..." because it used the Leaving Earth theme.

And after finishing the ending (and seeing that the ME3 OST is yet to be announced on CD) and studying IT I thought:
Maybe the ME3 discs don't contain the whole game...

So it's all natural to question what we got.

Mansell must've done more tracks...

...or maybe not.

Indeed.

Although on that, personally, I'd like it if he didn't - I love thr music he did, don't get me wrong. Its great listening music, but its not great game music.

Don't YOU get me wrong. I'd rather if we had Wall and Hulick back for ME3. My point was just the fact that one would expect the both OST headliners to produce an equal amount of quality music.

[Icinix]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Icinix wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

My doubts in ME3 began even before I saw the ending:
When I saw the tracklist and Mansell was ONLY responsible for "Leaving Earth"; yes, Hulick confirmed that Mansell was credited for "An End..." because it used the Leaving Earth theme.

And after finishing the ending (and seeing that the ME3 OST is yet to be announced on CD) and studying IT I thought:
Maybe the ME3 discs don't contain the whole game...

So it's all natural to question what we got.

Mansell must've done more tracks...

...or maybe not.

Indeed.

Although on that, personally, I'd like it if he didn't - I love thr music he did, don't get me wrong. Its great listening music, but its not great game music.

Don't YOU get me wrong. I'd rather if we had Wall and Hulick back for ME3. My point was just the fact that one would expect the both OST headliners to produce an equal amount of quality music.

Huh? I agree with everything you said totally, and especially on the last comment about Wall and Hulick and yeah definitely, considering the song and dance with Mansell - I expected more tracks to his name.

[MaximizedAction]

Icinix wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Icinix wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

My doubts in ME3 began even before I saw the ending:
When I saw the tracklist and Mansell was ONLY responsible for "Leaving Earth"; yes, Hulick confirmed that Mansell was credited for "An End..." because it used the Leaving Earth theme.

And after finishing the ending (and seeing that the ME3 OST is yet to be announced on CD) and studying IT I thought:
Maybe the ME3 discs don't contain the whole game...

So it's all natural to question what we got.

Mansell must've done more tracks...

...or maybe not.

Indeed.

Although on that, personally, I'd like it if he didn't - I love thr music he did, don't get me wrong. Its great listening music, but its not great game music.

Don't YOU get me wrong. I'd rather if we had Wall and Hulick back for ME3. My point was just the fact that one would expect the both OST headliners to produce an equal amount of quality music.

Huh? I agree with everything you said totally, and especially on the last comment about Wall and Hulick and yeah definitely, considering the song and dance with Mansell - I expected more tracks to his name.

Sorry, didn't mean the first sentance in a rude way