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[RavenEyry]

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

He was waiting. Remember the scientists in the temple? Slit throats and how Shepard and the squadmates remark that reaper forces wouldn't do that?

I completely forgot about that! Pretty much confirms the indoctrinated agent let Shepard hear what Vendetta had to say before busting in.

[MaximizedAction]

TSA_383 wrote...

Anyone got any thoughts on the sound files I posted?

Is it pretty much proven that harbinger says "SERVE US" before shooting shep in the face with a giant laser?

I don't think this can be proven in the classical sense by listening to it, and we don't have any other possibilities of checking.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 18 juillet 2012 - 01:21 .

[KJSync]

Anyone experiencing problems when trying to search for a game today?

[paxxton]

Hey, what's up?

[paxxton]

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Someone said that Rio will appear in SP after Shepard wakes up. Not necessarily. A DLC can add a mission in Rio before London. The Normandy descended from the orbit but it wasn't said where it was headed as far as I remember.

paxxton. You do reailze that there is a war going on and i doubt they had time to go to Rio, and remember we said they could have chased Harbinger down to intersept Harbinger from killing Shepard, Anderson, and Alliance personel, not hammer because non were present at the charge run.

When I think about it, Shepard, Hackett and Anderson talked about hitting London directly so going to Rio before that was not an option. But maybe Rio is a place that had been planned but was scrapped.

Modifié par paxxton, 18 juillet 2012 - 02:32 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Brazukka wrote...

Anyone experiencing problems when trying to search for a game today?

Yeah, though putting the Challenge on Any Challenge seems to help.

[Leonia]

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Someone said that Rio will appear in SP after Shepard wakes up. Not necessarily. A DLC can add a mission in Rio before London. The Normandy descended from the orbit but it wasn't said where it was headed as far as I remember.

paxxton. You do reailze that there is a war going on and i doubt they had time to go to Rio, and remember we said they could have chased Harbinger down to intersept Harbinger from killing Shepard, Anderson, and Alliance personel, not hammer because non were present at the charge run.

When I think about it, Shepard, Hackett and Anderson were talking about hitting London directly so going to Rio before that is not an option. But maybe Rio is a place that had been planned but was scrapped.

Maybe we'll see that hospital from the new Vancouver map instead..

[MaximizedAction]

leonia42 wrote...
Maybe we'll see that hospital from the new Vancouver map instead..

Wow, good remark! Also, Up until now I've noticed the head+lightning sign twice on the new Vancouver map. And it's just ventilation shafts without exits.

Maybe the fact that it's at a hospital might be an interpretation, and this is where Shep might have to go after the breath scene. But then, he's in London....

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 18 juillet 2012 - 02:13 .

[Turbo_J]

MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Anyone got any thoughts on the sound files I posted?

Is it pretty much proven that harbinger says "SERVE US" before shooting shep in the face with a giant laser?

I don't think this can be proven in the classical sense by listening to it, and we don't have any other possibilities of checking.

I agree that it can't be proven. However, that sound is present where ever there are Reapers. You can hear it multiple times as you go from Alliance HQ  to the downed gunship in Vancouver.

[paxxton]

@Turbo_J: How's your and HellishFiend's video going?

[EpyonX3]

Turbo_J wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Anyone got any thoughts on the sound files I posted?

Is it pretty much proven that harbinger says "SERVE US" before shooting shep in the face with a giant laser?

I don't think this can be proven in the classical sense by listening to it, and we don't have any other possibilities of checking.

I agree that it can't be proven. However, that sound is present where ever there are Reapers. You can hear it multiple times as you go from Alliance HQ  to the downed gunship in Vancouver.

And by destroyers on other planets like Tuchanka.

[Chriz Tah Fah]

Vendetta needs to be activated by a "Prothean" If you have Javik with you for that mission, he is able to activate everything. If you don't have him with you then Shepard has to do it. I did not notice anything "too" strange with Vendetta the first time you meet him. The second time on the Cerberus base he does act odd. If Vendetta is feeding Shepard misinformation and Shepard follows it...sounds like a trap to me.

Edit: I guess the reapers making Vendetta act REALLY REALLY ODD would be a huge red flag to the player/Shepard.

Modifié par Chriz Tah Fah, 18 juillet 2012 - 02:55 .

[RavenEyry]

So, ah, interesting how many times the citadel defense force asset gets altered in the game considering there's no possible way for them to effect the outcome. Just a thought that bugged me today.

[paxxton]

I just wanted to tell you guys (and ladies) that soon BioWare is going to release the Citadel MP DLC with that level on Presidium where you chase Kai Leng. I have no doubt about that.

Modifié par paxxton, 18 juillet 2012 - 02:54 .

[Turbo_J]

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Just read Raistlin's thing about the VI's and it seems Vendetta was either foreshadowing the forthcoming massive retcons, or has been fiddled with in some way to tell you what the reapers want you to think.

I agree with it, but then again I posted something very similar to it about 500 pages ago... and again, not too long ago I mentioned oddeties Regarding it's communications. It behaved like an AI, not a VI. It knows too much, can instantly be understood by every squad mate despite them not having a cypher like Shepard - and Vendetta was not 'on' to 'monitor' communications like Vigil was on Ilos; which is how it learned to communicate.

The comments on the 'cycle' were also almost identical to Liara's diatribe in ME1 with the exception of the 'inferred' master of the cycle, as Vendetta put it.

Funny how the Protheans knew so much for being insta-splintered when the Reapers flooded through the citadel.

Actually, that's a bloody good point.  In ME1 they beat you over the head that Shepard could make out a garbled message from a computer on Ilos while the squadmates couldn't, and that Prothean VI's can quickly translate other languages but only if they are monitoring communications.

Vendetta could be understood instantly, and had been turned off.

And Kai Leng (spit) was there almost on cue just before it spilled the beans about what was going on.  As if he was waiting.

<_<

He was waiting. Remember the scientists in the temple? Slit throats and how Shepard and the squadmates remark that reaper forces wouldn't do that?

Yes. Kai Leng was already there. He slit the scientists throats. I'm sure he had nothing to do with the AI being hacked. I think it was a Reaper plant; either from indoctrinated servants placed on Thessia or possibly set up at the time of the Protheans to mess with the next cycle interpretations of previous cycle data. Remember the Beings of Light. This is another instance of the Reapers creating lore to misinform the next cycle.

There is also no way the Reapers were not aware of Prothean attempts to uplift other species. They are millions of times smarter than the best AI in 2186; which is likely Legion with is 1182 VI programs combined with reaper upgrades. Also, when using the trinket on Eletania, the first encounter with what could be a Prothean probe is uneventful. However, the next 'experience' Shepard relives may be about a fatal encounter with an Oculus investigating earth, sizing up the extent of evolution; and it roasts the human that was being studied with it's 'red' beam.

I have another theory on that too though: The human could have been abducted, along with countless others, transported to a planet in the Athena Nebula and, well gene-modded into a blue alien race... you know, Asari.

Could explain how the trinket, that was embedded into a human skull, made it into the hands of an Asari.

[Chriz Tah Fah]

RavenEyry wrote...

So, ah, interesting how many times the citadel defense force asset gets altered in the game considering there's no possible way for them to effect the outcome. Just a thought that bugged me today.

I'd bet money on Bioware making a Citadel DLC. These defence forces would obviously be used in this. I really think a "retake the Citadel" DLC would be amazing. We have yet to have a really huge scale battle in mass effect, the entire game is really just with your squad. The Citadel defense forces + your team members would create a huge firefight.
<-- would pay to see that

It is odd though. If the reapers are able to take the Citadel NO MATTER WHAT, then what are the Citadel forces doing? We never see them actively participate in battle. Maybe they count because they make people feel safe. You get assets for the minerals from ME2 but the minerals don't fight. Theres arguments for both sides but the defense forces didn't bother me until you mentioned it.

[EpyonX3]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Vendetta needs to be activated by a "Prothean" If you have Javik with you for that mission, he is able to activate everything. If you don't have him with you then Shepard has to do it. I did not notice anything too strange with Vendetta the first time you meet him. The second time on the Cerberus base he does act odd. If Vendetta is feeding Shepard misinformation and Shepard follows it...sounds like a trap to me.

I can't see how the reapers use the Citadel as a trap.

The reaper's strategy so far has been divide and conquer. They cut civilizations off from each other and take them out in pockets, not in full on massive battles. Javik and Vigil confirm how the reapers divided them up throughout the galaxy and cut them off from each other.

To now think that the reapers planned to move the Citadel to earth to bring all of the galaxy's forces onto one spot and risk losing numerous capital ships is unlikely. They were doing just fine making a mess of earth and every other homeworld before the Crucible was leaked to them.

[byne]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Vendetta needs to be activated by a "Prothean" If you have Javik with you for that mission, he is able to activate everything. If you don't have him with you then Shepard has to do it. I did not notice anything too strange with Vendetta the first time you meet him. The second time on the Cerberus base he does act odd. If Vendetta is feeding Shepard misinformation and Shepard follows it...sounds like a trap to me.

I can't see how the reapers use the Citadel as a trap.

The reaper's strategy so far has been divide and conquer. They cut civilizations off from each other and take them out in pockets, not in full on massive battles. Javik and Vigil confirm how the reapers divided them up throughout the galaxy and cut them off from each other.

To now think that the reapers planned to move the Citadel to earth to bring all of the galaxy's forces onto one spot and risk losing numerous capital ships is unlikely. They were doing just fine making a mess of earth and every other homeworld before the Crucible was leaked to them.

Did you not pay attention in ME1, Epyon? The Citadel has never been anything but  a trap.

The Reapers made it the center of the Relay network so that every cycle would use it as their center of government, storing all census records and such there, then the Reapers would use the Citadel relay to leave dark space, kill the government leaders, crippling the galactic society, use the Citadel to shut down all the Relays, then find the census info so they could easily learn what planets to harvest.

[paxxton]

ME3 MP must be extremely popular if the servers are almost constantly overloaded.

[EpyonX3]

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Vendetta needs to be activated by a "Prothean" If you have Javik with you for that mission, he is able to activate everything. If you don't have him with you then Shepard has to do it. I did not notice anything too strange with Vendetta the first time you meet him. The second time on the Cerberus base he does act odd. If Vendetta is feeding Shepard misinformation and Shepard follows it...sounds like a trap to me.

I can't see how the reapers use the Citadel as a trap.

The reaper's strategy so far has been divide and conquer. They cut civilizations off from each other and take them out in pockets, not in full on massive battles. Javik and Vigil confirm how the reapers divided them up throughout the galaxy and cut them off from each other.

To now think that the reapers planned to move the Citadel to earth to bring all of the galaxy's forces onto one spot and risk losing numerous capital ships is unlikely. They were doing just fine making a mess of earth and every other homeworld before the Crucible was leaked to them.

Did you not pay attention in ME1, Epyon? The Citadel has never been anything but  a trap.

The Reapers made it the center of the Relay network so that every cycle would use it as their center of government, storing all census records and such there, then the Reapers would use the Citadel relay to leave dark space, kill the government leaders, crippling the galactic society, use the Citadel to shut down all the Relays, then find the census info so they could easily learn what planets to harvest.

You know what I mean. Moving the Citadel to Earth and conslidating power around it was a trap? I don't see it.

[RavenEyry]

EpyonX3 wrote...

I can't see how the reapers use the Citadel as a trap.

The reaper's strategy so far has been divide and conquer. They cut civilizations off from each other and take them out in pockets, not in full on massive battles. Javik and Vigil confirm how the reapers divided them up throughout the galaxy and cut them off from each other.

To now think that the reapers planned to move the Citadel to earth to bring all of the galaxy's forces onto one spot and risk losing numerous capital ships is unlikely. They were doing just fine making a mess of earth and every other homeworld before the Crucible was leaked to them.

I think we mean a trap from an indoctrination perspective. A VI gets tampered with by reapers to tell Shepard there's something controlling them. Shepard then 'meets' the thing contolling them. Adds plausibility.

[Turbo_J]

paxxton wrote...

@Turbo_J: How's your and HellishFiend's video going?

I finished writing the narration yesterday, but we still have a long way to go. The story boarding process takes time. I'm rushing John and Amethyst Shepard (my 'canon' who was featured in the FemShep version of the Choose Wisely music video - in my sig.) through all three games again and make save points so we can gather data from anywhere, easily.

Even ME1 has valuable data on Indoctrination. Information that is not listed in the ME2 codex entry added in game during the derelict reaper mission.

It's difficult to stay focused. I find new information every time I play that has nothing to do with the segments we are addressing in the first video. It's a little little overwhelming... mind blowing... and I'm a little thirsty.

[paxxton]

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Vendetta needs to be activated by a "Prothean" If you have Javik with you for that mission, he is able to activate everything. If you don't have him with you then Shepard has to do it. I did not notice anything too strange with Vendetta the first time you meet him. The second time on the Cerberus base he does act odd. If Vendetta is feeding Shepard misinformation and Shepard follows it...sounds like a trap to me.

I can't see how the reapers use the Citadel as a trap.

The reaper's strategy so far has been divide and conquer. They cut civilizations off from each other and take them out in pockets, not in full on massive battles. Javik and Vigil confirm how the reapers divided them up throughout the galaxy and cut them off from each other.

To now think that the reapers planned to move the Citadel to earth to bring all of the galaxy's forces onto one spot and risk losing numerous capital ships is unlikely. They were doing just fine making a mess of earth and every other homeworld before the Crucible was leaked to them.

Did you not pay attention in ME1, Epyon? The Citadel has never been anything but  a trap.

The Reapers made it the center of the Relay network so that every cycle would use it as their center of government, storing all census records and such there, then the Reapers would use the Citadel relay to leave dark space, kill the government leaders, crippling the galactic society, use the Citadel to shut down all the Relays, then find the census info so they could easily learn what planets to harvest.

Yeah. Moreover, having the census data the Reapers could be going from home to home disturbing people's peace.  jk

Modifié par paxxton, 18 juillet 2012 - 03:04 .

[munnellyladt]

Anybody having trouble finding a platinum game on xbox?

I cant seem to find any games.

[Chriz Tah Fah]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Vendetta needs to be activated by a "Prothean" If you have Javik with you for that mission, he is able to activate everything. If you don't have him with you then Shepard has to do it. I did not notice anything too strange with Vendetta the first time you meet him. The second time on the Cerberus base he does act odd. If Vendetta is feeding Shepard misinformation and Shepard follows it...sounds like a trap to me.

I can't see how the reapers use the Citadel as a trap.

The reaper's strategy so far has been divide and conquer. They cut civilizations off from each other and take them out in pockets, not in full on massive battles. Javik and Vigil confirm how the reapers divided them up throughout the galaxy and cut them off from each other.

To now think that the reapers planned to move the Citadel to earth to bring all of the galaxy's forces onto one spot and risk losing numerous capital ships is unlikely. They were doing just fine making a mess of earth and every other homeworld before the Crucible was leaked to them.

The reapers not knowing about the Crucible is HIGHLY unlikely. As was stated a few pages back. If you save the "fake" Rachni queen you find out that those Rachni are indoctrinated and turn against you. Those Rachni were working on the CRUCIBLE.

And then there are the countless indoctrinated reaper agents who...don't tell the reapers about the Crucible? I don't buy that.

The fact that the reapers didn't expect the Crucible to come back after the Protheans tried to make it doesn't make sense either. How stupid do the reapers think the Protheans were to not save information for the next cycle?

Ontop of that, starbrat (who we all believe to be a lying cheat) STATES that the reapers did not expect the Crucible to come back. That's also a load of poo, the reapers should know that each cycle doesn't hope/believe to defeat the reapers conventionally so they wil try to develop a super weapon. It is more than likely that the Crucible will be built and tried by the next cycle.

I had something else but I forgot. If it comes to me I will edit this post.

Edited for readability.

Modifié par Chriz Tah Fah, 18 juillet 2012 - 03:08 .