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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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So we are still were we were at Comic- Con, but have some new info.

Also should we then go back to all the Mp files and take a look if they have anything in them, about the Leviathan?

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Justin2k wrote...

No. The ending was just a very poorly written plot twist, nothing more or less. To be honest, i'd be happy if the whole game after Shepard gets KO'd in the introduction was a hallucination, then I'd have Mass Effect 3 to look forward to. But they'd only mess it up again.


Cool story, needs more proof.

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CoolioThane wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

No. The ending was just a very poorly written plot twist, nothing more or less. To be honest, i'd be happy if the whole game after Shepard gets KO'd in the introduction was a hallucination, then I'd have Mass Effect 3 to look forward to. But they'd only mess it up again.


Cool story, needs more proof.


If this is now the best they have, I'm going to start calling non-IT the "Literal Theory" Posted Image

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BleedingUranium wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

No. The ending was just a very poorly written plot twist, nothing more or less. To be honest, i'd be happy if the whole game after Shepard gets KO'd in the introduction was a hallucination, then I'd have Mass Effect 3 to look forward to. But they'd only mess it up again.


Cool story, needs more proof.


If this is now the best they have, I'm going to start calling non-IT the "Literal Theory" Posted Image


I think this person needs to look at this.

http://forum.worldof...Team-(Livechat)

Modifié par masster blaster, 18 juillet 2012 - 09:15 .


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BleedingUranium wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

No. The ending was just a very poorly written plot twist, nothing more or less. To be honest, i'd be happy if the whole game after Shepard gets KO'd in the introduction was a hallucination, then I'd have Mass Effect 3 to look forward to. But they'd only mess it up again.


Cool story, needs more proof.


If this is now the best they have, I'm going to start calling non-IT the "Literal Theory" Posted Image


 Bad Writting Theory seems to be a popular choice as well.

#49431
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BleedingUranium wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

No. The ending was just a very poorly written plot twist, nothing more or less. To be honest, i'd be happy if the whole game after Shepard gets KO'd in the introduction was a hallucination, then I'd have Mass Effect 3 to look forward to. But they'd only mess it up again.


Cool story, needs more proof.


If this is now the best they have, I'm going to start calling non-IT the "Literal Theory" Posted Image


The longer it goes on, the stronger IT seems to get despite the literalists saying "this stupid theory is dead"...It is a very good sign. Normally "fan theories" are written off after at max a month or two...this is still as strong as ever. 

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

No. The ending was just a very poorly written plot twist, nothing more or less. To be honest, i'd be happy if the whole game after Shepard gets KO'd in the introduction was a hallucination, then I'd have Mass Effect 3 to look forward to. But they'd only mess it up again.


Cool story, needs more proof.


If this is now the best they have, I'm going to start calling non-IT the "Literal Theory" Posted Image


 Bad Writting Theory seems to be a popular choice as well.


Ya, but they are doing the same thing speculating on the endings/game, and why it sucks. Yet we think BIoware planed IT and from the looks of it yes they did/do. Also we are speculating as Bioware said to do.

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Listen to the lyrics :blink: - It's like they knew

 


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CoolioThane wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

No. The ending was just a very poorly written plot twist, nothing more or less. To be honest, i'd be happy if the whole game after Shepard gets KO'd in the introduction was a hallucination, then I'd have Mass Effect 3 to look forward to. But they'd only mess it up again.


Cool story, needs more proof.


If this is now the best they have, I'm going to start calling non-IT the "Literal Theory" Posted Image


The longer it goes on, the stronger IT seems to get despite the literalists saying "this stupid theory is dead"...It is a very good sign. Normally "fan theories" are written off after at max a month or two...this is still as strong as ever. 


"Stand Strong."
"Stand fast."
Stand together."

"Hackett out"

Yep we are still strong, and we are still going in our theory so ya.

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CoolioThane wrote...

Listen to the lyrics :blink: - It's like they knew

 




>click link
>see 'The Cast of High School Musical'
>The uploader has not made this video available in your country

oh thank god

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LOL.

#49437
CoolioThane

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byne wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Listen to the lyrics :blink: - It's like they knew

 




>click link
>see 'The Cast of High School Musical'
>The uploader has not made this video available in your country

oh thank god


But fo' realz! :P It's all about breaking free, keeping faith and strength. Soaring and flying...reaching stars in heaven? Please, this is totally Mass Effect.

"can you feel it building, like a wave the ocean just can't control" - Yes I can, the cast of high school musical yes I can.

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byne wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Listen to the lyrics :blink: - It's like they knew

 




>click link
>see 'The Cast of High School Musical'
>The uploader has not made this video available in your country

oh thank god


Man you took the words right out of my head!

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Got a question.

If Shepard is hallucinating, why wouldn't s/he hallucinate about a more familiar place on the Citadel? Why wouldn't s/he hallucinate about the Citadel tower, or about the docking bay, or purgatory, or... whatever. Not just a place s/he never seen before.

Was probably been asked before, but I'm just wondering.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Listen to the lyrics :blink: - It's like they knew

 




>click link
>see 'The Cast of High School Musical'
>The uploader has not made this video available in your country

oh thank god


Man you took the words right out of my head!


I....don't know what I saw. Death. Destruction. One thing is clear though. WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU SHOW ME THAT.

jk I could not watch it and thank you lord because I live in america.

Modifié par masster blaster, 18 juillet 2012 - 09:32 .


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HagarIshay wrote...

Got a question.

If Shepard is hallucinating, why wouldn't s/he hallucinate about a more familiar place on the Citadel? Why wouldn't s/he hallucinate about the Citadel tower, or about the docking bay, or purgatory, or... whatever. Not just a place s/he never seen before.

Was probably been asked before, but I'm just wondering.

The place is constructed from different Shepard's memories.

#49442
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Now I just look totally insane rather than jokily insane xD

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HagarIshay wrote...

Got a question.

If Shepard is hallucinating, why wouldn't s/he hallucinate about a more familiar place on the Citadel? Why wouldn't s/he hallucinate about the Citadel tower, or about the docking bay, or purgatory, or... whatever. Not just a place s/he never seen before.

Was probably been asked before, but I'm just wondering.



You should go here:forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1169425-Alle-Antworten-vom-BioWare-Team-%28Livechat%29

And see if you think Chris and Jessica are talking about IT, and the child/Sheaprd's voice in the Catalyst lines.

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HagarIshay wrote...

Got a question.

If Shepard is hallucinating, why wouldn't s/he hallucinate about a more familiar place on the Citadel? Why wouldn't s/he hallucinate about the Citadel tower, or about the docking bay, or purgatory, or... whatever. Not just a place s/he never seen before.

Was probably been asked before, but I'm just wondering.


My guess is the reapers don't have full acess to Shepards mind so can only pull pieces from it. Think that's what it was like for Grayson but haven't read the book for a while. It would be easier to pull a image from Shepards mind as his/her subconcious would fill in the gaps that a forced image would produce.

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There are elements reminiscent of Shepard's previous experiences with the Citadel. How the ward arms look, the Shadow Broker-like panels, 1m1 signs, dreadnought guns.

No it's not a place from memory, but it's a place assembled with pieces from memory. That's how we see it anyway. Could be just asset reuse.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 18 juillet 2012 - 09:33 .


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paxxton wrote...
The place is constructed from different Shepard's memories.


Yeah but having it constructed from varius memories isn't a bit too complex for a hallucination? Wouldn't be easier just to think about a place Shepard is already familiar with?

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masster blaster wrote...

So we are still were we were at Comic- Con, but have some new info.

Also should we then go back to all the Mp files and take a look if they have anything in them, about the Leviathan?


Would it be useful if I posted the .xml files? I don't know if there's much else of use in there.

Better yet, download the ME2 .tlk converter and do it yourselves :D

Native German/Italian/Spanish speakers can take a look at the multilanguage ones, just in case there's other stuff there.

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HagarIshay wrote...

paxxton wrote...
The place is constructed from different Shepard's memories.


Yeah but having it constructed from varius memories isn't a bit too complex for a hallucination? Wouldn't be easier just to think about a place Shepard is already familiar with?


Think how hallucinations work. They are usually bizarre, a hodgepodge of things.

Modifié par paxxton, 18 juillet 2012 - 09:38 .


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Simon_Says wrote...

There are elements reminiscent of Shepard's previous experiences with the Citadel. How the ward arms look, the Shadow Broker-like panels, 1m1 signs, dreadnought guns.

No it's not a place from memory, but it's a place assembled with pieces from memory. That's how we see it anyway. Could be just asset reuse.

There should be Aria's body somewhere in that piles.

Modifié par paxxton, 18 juillet 2012 - 09:36 .


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HagarIshay wrote...

paxxton wrote...
The place is constructed from different Shepard's memories.


Yeah but having it constructed from varius memories isn't a bit too complex for a hallucination? Wouldn't be easier just to think about a place Shepard is already familiar with?



It would be a give away if it was in hte same place Shepard has been to on the Citadel, and people would think it's weird it's there, while a new place on the Citadel. That we have not scene yet makes more sense because the player/Shepard would think it's just part of the Citadel, but it's actually apart of Shepard's memories from ME1-ME3.

Modifié par masster blaster, 18 juillet 2012 - 09:37 .