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[CoolioThane]

I've always been for no fighting. I just get het up really quickly as you all know xD

[paxxton]

Simon_Says wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Btw, they are called Synergics.

Thank you, but I prefer it my way.

[in the Catalyst's voice] No, you can't.  jk

Modifié par paxxton, 19 juillet 2012 - 04:44 .

[Dwailing]

Rosewind wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I was born in 1996. my page.

My page, too.  I was born in 1996.

AHHH I feel old..... wow you guys are only 16?

Technically, since my birthday is the 24th, I'm only 15. 

[RavenEyry]

I'm nineteen but I've been extremely cynical since about five if that counts.

[Simon_Says]

RavenEyry wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

I still don't get why people are so flabbergasted by green space magic when, y'know, husks. There's your precedent. It's not about rewriting the genetic code of all life. It's about making everyone JC Denton, i.e. nano-technologically augmented.

It's ugly. But not impossible.

Even if the green light was spreading nanite to everyone (which is the most believable exlanation), i still don't get how it's powered by a melting person.

Same as I don't get why shooting a pipe would make it kill synthetics.

All round the user interface of the 'solution' was pretty  poorly designed.

I still say that the end sequences was something similar to the geth concensus. Symbolic action within, real results in meatspace. Since the indoctrination attempt involves two-way communication, this isn't strictly out of the question.

-edit- DAT PYRAMID

Modifié par Simon_Says, 19 juillet 2012 - 04:10 .

[Dwailing]

Flog61 wrote...

Ok, sure!

Wait a minute........

Good God man!  Snip that quote pyramid!   Our thread can't take a pyramid of that magnitude! 

Modifié par Dwailing, 19 juillet 2012 - 04:10 .

[paxxton]

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[quote]Lokanaiya wrote...

Paxxton, maybe I'm weird but I'd prefer a troll-less page 2000, to be honest. [/quote]

I can 100% guarantee that the top post on the 2000th page will be a troll[/quote]
So I have a status of a troll now? [/quote]

I have no idea what you are talking about. There aren't even alternate universes where you get the 2000th ppage first post. [/quote]
Sure, see ya after the first post on page 2000. [/quote]

Can't you see it? You're...you're indoctrinated!
[/quote]
No, I'm in control. No one's taking the first post from me! [/quote]

Maybe we should do a joint first post. The strengths of both, the weaknesses of neither![/quote]
That would require jumping into a high-energy beam that burns everything but not Shepard. [/quote]

Lets do it. I'll get my keys[/quote]
After you... [/quote]

Ok, sure!

Wait a minute........






[/quote]
You caught Harbinger.

[masster blaster]

Dwailing wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I was born in 1996. my page.

My page, too.  I was born in 1996.

AHHH I feel old..... wow you guys are only 16?

Also you forget what Salarians can do to a race. And what's that ME has nukes too.And you forget Reapers can fly. even the Destroyer Reapers can too. so if you are talking about air power for halo good luck. And guess what Reapers can turn into artillery cannons too.
Technically, since my birthday is the 24th, I'm only 15. 

Well only 15 until Ocotber the 1st.

[CoolioThane]

RavenEyry wrote...

I'm nineteen but I've been extremely cynical since about five if that counts.

Are you a fellow '93 er? 

I'm the opposite of cynical if that helps

[Simon_Says]

Linking because it deserves more love.

[Dwailing]

CoolioThane wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I'm nineteen but I've been extremely cynical since about five if that counts.

Are you a fellow '93 er? 

I'm the opposite of cynical if that helps

Arian is also a '93'er if I remember correctly.  That, or he's a '92'er who just hasn't turned 20 yet.  Not sure which.

[smokingotter1]

Simon_Says wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

I still don't get why people are so flabbergasted by green space magic when, y'know, husks. There's your precedent. It's not about rewriting the genetic code of all life. It's about making everyone JC Denton, i.e. nano-technologically augmented.

It's ugly. But not impossible.

Even if the green light was spreading nanite to everyone (which is the most believable exlanation), i still don't get how it's powered by a melting person.

Same as I don't get why shooting a pipe would make it kill synthetics.

All round the user interface of the 'solution' was pretty  poorly designed.

I still say that the end sequences was something similar to the geth concensus. Symbolic action within, real results in meatspace. Since the indoctrination attempt involves two-way communication, this isn't strictly out of the question.

-edit- DAT PYRAMID

Hmm, I was going to touch on this later, but what I'm working on is an argument that the entire citadel scene from Shepard popping up to meeting TIM/Anderson is exactly what I think is "Symbolic action within, real results in meatspace." The meatspace being Shepard's Orbitofrontal cortex (part of the limbic system) with the Shadow Broker and citadel traffic lights parts representing neurons and neural pathways (when Anderson remarks that the walls are moving he's refering to indoctrinition changing Shepard's neural pathways through conditioning).

TIM/Anderson/Shepard represent the Freudian Trio (like in Startrek you had Spock, McCoy, and Kirk) all battling to control the Orbitofrontal cortex which handles decision making.

[CoolioThane]

smokingotter1 wrote...

It is time… for the Overlay-Time Hypthesis Part 1 with IT Supplemental for Everyone!

A smokingotter production


“I wish you could see the Mass Effect 3 ending the same why I do… it’s so …perfect.”

(Part 2 will analyze Arrival DLC, and Part 3 will bring it all home with the ME3 Ending, hopefully I’ll have part 2 done tomorrow and part 3 done Monday… because you know I sorta kinda but not really have a life)

What if the ending to Mass Effect 3 was actually in the game? The Overlay-Time hypothesis (OTH) is a variation of the Indoctrination theory that attempts to reconcile comments made by Bioware writing team with content from ME Series and Codex.

I will argue through the three parts that the ending of ME3 is a mixture of hallucination,
inside Shepard’s brain (like how we were inside the Geth consensus), and that there is a significant time lag between
Shepard’s breathe scene and what happens in space. That the ME3 ending
both involves Shepard fighting the reapers on a subconscious and
conscious level; the former being an attempt at indoctrination and when
that fails the latter being an attempt to kill Shepard (Shepard, you
could have been useful).

The evidence I use is not mutually exclusive
(obviously) to my interpretation, not only do I wish to argue my case
but to strengthen IT as a whole. While not totally necessary it is highly suggested that readers play Arrival and Overlord for full comprehension of OTH. It is my belief that DLC Overlord and Arrival do a lot to set up the foundation for the ending of ME3.

Part 1: Project Overlord (Shortest but still important part)

When Shepard accesses the VI Console in Project Overlord he is hit with an energy field that lets him “see” the real world through a digital overlay.





This set’s an important precedent, that Shepard can have modified overlay in his vision. I will argue in part 3 that this happens again in the ending to ME3 when Shepard is in the “decision chamber” which is in reality the conduit run and what Shepard sees in the decision chamber is simply a reaper induced overlay of reality in an attempt to kill Shepard after indoctrination on the subconscious level failed.

End of Part 1

IT Supplemental (evidence presented here is my attempt to strengthen all IT interpretations)

When Shepard comes across David Archer could Shepard possibly be seeing another version of "synthesis". Notice the color and body position of David Archer, look familiar?



The green gives way to blue so we can see clearer



Synthesis is the final evolution of human life, look synthetic and organic intertwined.  Wait... this looks familiar.




Moving on, a close up, wait, tubes in mouth, that also looks familiar!



Like this:

Me likey very much!

[Cyberfrog81]

Dwailing wrote...

That explanation works off of the assumption that Synthesis really happened.

If BioWare-statements that possibly support IT are worth considering, so are the statements that don't.

[Either.Ardrey]

SubAstris wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

And once again this is the danger of IT relying so heavily on possible future content to validate its existence.

Because there will be no future content on the ending again!

Conjecture

No, ice cold fact. Have you been listening to anything BW have said regarding the endings in the past few months?

You mean the part where they changed their stance from "No more new ending related content" to "No comment"?

Modifié par Either.Ardrey, 19 juillet 2012 - 04:19 .

[smokingotter1]

Forgot to add Freudian Trio= ID, Ego, Superego

[paxxton]

You know, husks doesn't look worse than humans under the skin.  jk

Modifié par paxxton, 19 juillet 2012 - 04:27 .

[smokingotter1]

Simon_Says wrote...

Linking because it deserves more love.

Thanks :happy:

[Simon_Says]

Otter, wasn't Freud's theories basically universally discredited looong time ago? I think Arian keeps bringing it up that Casey Mac Walters had an education in psychology so involving Freud would seem... odd. Not implausible but odd. If it was intentional at least. Authors who bring up Freud usually either bring him up because he's all they know of psychology or in order to take the ****** out of him.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 19 juillet 2012 - 04:24 .

[MaximizedAction]

Simon_Says wrote...

Wasn't Freud's theories basically universally discredited looong time ago? I think Arian keeps bringing it up that Casey(?) had an education in psychology so involving Freud would seem... odd. Not implausible but odd.

Authors who bring up Freud usually either bring him up because he's all they know of psychology or in order to take the ****** out of him.

That's Mac Walters, not Casey Hudson.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 19 juillet 2012 - 04:22 .

[Simon_Says]

Thanks, edited for correctness.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 19 juillet 2012 - 04:25 .