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[dreamgazer]

byne wrote...

Well, I was needing to restructure my OP anyhow, and was getting too lazy to ever get around to it.

Now I have incentive to do so. Anyone wanna come up with stuff I should include in my new OP?

I was about to suggest copying and pasting the material from the OP into your new one anyway, but yeah, this might be a good point to structure the clues better and more thoroughly.

Even though it's not thorough, I think it'd be wise to include the twenty-minute video at the very top of the post---to give newcomers something convincing and easy to digest at first.

 

[balance5050]

Sorry I'm just in shock, I feel like a tornado ripped my home apart.

@Ownaholic

It seems like he forces himself to look at TIM when he says "you"

[ExtendedCut]

Ownaholic wrote...

Right...Well. I'm going to go ahead and re-post what I just wrote five seconds ago. You guys are focusing on the last topic instead of evidence. xD

I just realized something very small, but interesting.
This one really does fit the bill of "grasping at straws", but it's interesting nonetheless.

When Anderson says "He's controlling you!", he actually looks at Shepard. Shepard is not shown on-screen, but he is standing behind TIM during this scene, at a closer-to-the-camera angle, which is where Anderson is looking.
37:10
Watch Anderson's eyes. He doesn't look at TIM. He looks at Shepard.If he was looking at TIM, his eyes would be slightly off to the right. But he's looking right over TIM's left shoulder.
His eyes connect DIRECTLY with where Shepard is standing.

But he does talk to TIM.  Anderson tells TIM "You're indoctrinated", so why would he not look at TIM?  I guess though, now that I think about it, he could possibly be talking to Shepard, not TIM, and we all just assumed he's talking to TIM...

[Nauks]

Indeed, the thread didn't seem that crazy, deteriorating into madness was one of its regular cycles :/, mayble Priestly agreed Byne needed to update the front page so he switched to another troll account shut'r down to be rebuilt better and stronger. >

[ExtendedCut]

dreamgazer wrote...

byne wrote...

Well, I was needing to restructure my OP anyhow, and was getting too lazy to ever get around to it.

Now I have incentive to do so. Anyone wanna come up with stuff I should include in my new OP?

I was about to suggest copying and pasting the material from the OP into your new one anyway, but yeah, this might be a good point to structure the clues better and more thoroughly.

Even though it's not thorough, I think it'd be wise to include the twenty-minute video at the very top of the post---to give newcomers something convincing and easy to digest at first.

 

Or you could post that guys 1 hour and 30 minute "summary" of IT and pick it apart for what he got right and what he got wrong...

Modificata da ExtendedCut, 14 maggio 2012 - 05:23 .

[nightcobra]

Ownaholic wrote...

Right...Well. I'm going to go ahead and re-post what I just wrote five seconds ago. You guys are focusing on the last topic instead of evidence. xD

I just realized something very small, but interesting.
This one really does fit the bill of "grasping at straws", but it's interesting nonetheless.

When Anderson says "He's controlling you!", he actually looks at Shepard. Shepard is not shown on-screen, but he is standing behind TIM during this scene, at a closer-to-the-camera angle, which is where Anderson is looking.
37:10
Watch Anderson's eyes. He doesn't look at TIM. He looks at Shepard.If he was looking at TIM, his eyes would be slightly off to the right. But he's looking right over TIM's left shoulder.
His eyes connect DIRECTLY with where Shepard is standing.

i always figured he was looking at the screen, pratically looking to the player.
*3:00 am and i see anderson look at me saying i'm indocrinated* kinda creepy as i was very sleepy at the time 

[balance5050]

 @ Byne


Here's some stuff:

How does anyone live through this without armor and a helmet?

  

 

Also, the white light "dream transition effect is very telling that the ending could be a combination of a dream and being somehow mentally linked to some reaper somehow.


Dreams
http://desmond.image...jpg&res=landing

  
Shepard in Geth consensus



The ending

  

Also, look at Shepards eyes when he chooses either control or synthesize

 


Reposting for justice 

[MegumiAzusa]

byne wrote...

ExtendedCut wrote...

Man, what exactly happened there? What was the problem???

I was in the middle of posting, and then suddenly it wouldn't let me post it...

We'd better stay on-topic, I guess (even it didn't seem like we were that far off topic).

We seemed to be more on-topic than we usually were during our off-topic sessions.

Minus the last two or three pages...
anyway, the comparison shot with the tree before/after getting hit.
The gun
The eyes
The shadows
maybe the foliage stuff
...

[MegumiAzusa]

I can't see why the fade to white should be included as it's just that: a standard fade to white.

[Ownaholic]

ExtendedCut wrote...

Ownaholic wrote...

Right...Well. I'm going to go ahead and re-post what I just wrote five seconds ago. You guys are focusing on the last topic instead of evidence. xD

I just realized something very small, but interesting.
This one really does fit the bill of "grasping at straws", but it's interesting nonetheless.

When Anderson says "He's controlling you!", he actually looks at Shepard. Shepard is not shown on-screen, but he is standing behind TIM during this scene, at a closer-to-the-camera angle, which is where Anderson is looking.
37:10
Watch Anderson's eyes. He doesn't look at TIM. He looks at Shepard.If he was looking at TIM, his eyes would be slightly off to the right. But he's looking right over TIM's left shoulder.
His eyes connect DIRECTLY with where Shepard is standing.

But he does talk to TIM.  Anderson tells TIM "You're indoctrinated", so why would he not look at TIM?  I guess though, now that I think about it, he could possibly be talking to Shepard, not TIM, and we all just assumed he's talking to TIM...

Yeah, it's very strange. I've analyzed every frame of that segment. He never locks eyes with TIM during that statement. Not once.

By the way, I'm "that guy" who made the hour and 20 minute documentary you referenced earlier.

[Nauks]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

I can't see why the fade to white should be included as it's just that: a standard fade to white.

A fade to white in a manner which is only seen in the dreams, Geth consensus, and ending.

Modificata da Nauks, 14 maggio 2012 - 05:26 .

[DJBare]

Bought this across also, the obvious weapon switch from Carnifex to Predator

[Kyzee]

 I hope this doesn't get a lot of hate sent my way, but I totally understand why the last thread was locked down. The off topic posts were starting to greatly out number the on topic ones, so much so that I was checking in less and less. Truthfully, I think it because we've examined IDT to death, and part of me suspects that there won't be much to discuss until the DLC comes out.

But you never know, obviously. 

[byne]

There, put some video and reading links in the OP. Lemme know what I should add

[Rosewind]

byne wrote...

Well, I was needing to restructure my OP anyhow, and was getting too lazy to ever get around to it.

Now I have incentive to do so. Anyone wanna come up with stuff I should include in my new OP?

Well that was umm annoying we always goof topic ....

ANYWAY!!! Don't for get about creepy kid getting to the balcony before Shepard did complete with freaky picture now withh 100% less feet.

[Dendio1]

Why would they make us suffer months before revealing IT to be correct. Why not just come out and admit it. I'll happily await the ending, if they can mercifully end speculations

[dreamgazer]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Minus the last two or three pages...
anyway, the comparison shot with the tree before/after getting hit.
The gun
The eyes
The shadows
maybe the foliage stuff
...

... and perhaps screen captures of the codex entries that reference things like the shadows and humming.  

Modificata da dreamgazer, 14 maggio 2012 - 05:28 .

[ExtendedCut]

Ownaholic wrote...

ExtendedCut wrote...

Ownaholic wrote...

Right...Well. I'm going to go ahead and re-post what I just wrote five seconds ago. You guys are focusing on the last topic instead of evidence. xD

I just realized something very small, but interesting.
This one really does fit the bill of "grasping at straws", but it's interesting nonetheless.

When Anderson says "He's controlling you!", he actually looks at Shepard. Shepard is not shown on-screen, but he is standing behind TIM during this scene, at a closer-to-the-camera angle, which is where Anderson is looking.
37:10
Watch Anderson's eyes. He doesn't look at TIM. He looks at Shepard.If he was looking at TIM, his eyes would be slightly off to the right. But he's looking right over TIM's left shoulder.
His eyes connect DIRECTLY with where Shepard is standing.

But he does talk to TIM.  Anderson tells TIM "You're indoctrinated", so why would he not look at TIM?  I guess though, now that I think about it, he could possibly be talking to Shepard, not TIM, and we all just assumed he's talking to TIM...

Yeah, it's very strange. I've analyzed every frame of that segment. He never locks eyes with TIM during that statement. Not once.

By the way, I'm "that guy" who made the hour and 20 minute documentary you referenced earlier.

Seriously, you're that guy!?!  Nice job!  Honestly, that must have been quite the undertaking.  Must've taken a lot of time and effort.

And, really, excellent job for the most part, although I do disagree with a few of your points.

[balance5050]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

I can't see why the fade to white should be included as it's just that: a standard fade to white.

It's a dream transition effect that only happens during the dreams, the geth consensus and the end. It signifies when you're shifting "from one reality to another"

It's in the Geth consensus that you learn that the machine uses your memories to interpret things, the white light is an additional link between these three things.

Modificata da balance5050, 14 maggio 2012 - 05:29 .

[estebanus]

DJBare wrote...

estebanus wrote...

I... I don't understand... Why was it locked down?

Really?, perhaps because certain folk could not stay on topic?

Look... I'm truly sorry if it was purely me who did this...

[nightcobra]

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Modificata da nightcobra8928, 14 maggio 2012 - 05:36 .

[byne]

estebanus wrote...

DJBare wrote...

estebanus wrote...

I... I don't understand... Why was it locked down?

Really?, perhaps because certain folk could not stay on topic?

Look... I'm truly sorry if it was purely me who did this...

Dont worry, it wasnt just you, lots of  people went off topic lots of times.

[DJBare]

Dendio1 wrote...

Why would they make us suffer months before revealing IT to be correct. Why not just come out and admit it. I'll happily await the ending, if they can mercifully end speculations

Sorry, you made me laugh, you don't reveal something that is inherently deception, which is what indoctrination is about, but at a more fundamental level you don't publicly announce a major spoiler.

[Ownaholic]

ExtendedCut wrote...

Ownaholic wrote...

ExtendedCut wrote...

Ownaholic wrote...

Right...Well. I'm going to go ahead and re-post what I just wrote five seconds ago. You guys are focusing on the last topic instead of evidence. xD

I just realized something very small, but interesting.
This one really does fit the bill of "grasping at straws", but it's interesting nonetheless.

When Anderson says "He's controlling you!", he actually looks at Shepard. Shepard is not shown on-screen, but he is standing behind TIM during this scene, at a closer-to-the-camera angle, which is where Anderson is looking.
37:10
Watch Anderson's eyes. He doesn't look at TIM. He looks at Shepard.If he was looking at TIM, his eyes would be slightly off to the right. But he's looking right over TIM's left shoulder.
His eyes connect DIRECTLY with where Shepard is standing.

But he does talk to TIM.  Anderson tells TIM "You're indoctrinated", so why would he not look at TIM?  I guess though, now that I think about it, he could possibly be talking to Shepard, not TIM, and we all just assumed he's talking to TIM...

Yeah, it's very strange. I've analyzed every frame of that segment. He never locks eyes with TIM during that statement. Not once.

By the way, I'm "that guy" who made the hour and 20 minute documentary you referenced earlier.

Seriously, you're that guy!?!  Nice job!  Honestly, that must have been quite the undertaking.  Must've taken a lot of time and effort.

And, really, excellent job for the most part, although I do disagree with a few of your points.

Yessir, that be me. (Notice the signature, the Clever Noob ad)
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
I'm totally open to constructive criticisms too. I never expected every single person to agree with every single point, just wanted to present all of the evidence I knew about at that time in one fell swoop. I also have a radio interview coming tomorrow about the video. If you have any questions you'd like me to answer during the interview, you can post them here. But hurry, the cutoff is today.

Anywho, I just find this scene to be very very strange. The fact that Anderson doesn't look at TIM, but instead is looking straight at the camera (and Shepard's point of view is our camera at that point), shows that he's actually trying to talk to Shepard.

[estebanus]

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

DJBare wrote...

estebanus wrote...

I... I don't understand... Why was it locked down?

Really?, perhaps because certain folk could not stay on topic?

Look... I'm truly sorry if it was purely me who did this...

Dont worry, it wasnt just you, lots of  people went off topic lots of times.

Thanks, Byne... I feel kinda guilty right now...